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So, here is my story.
I have tried Fresh 1.1, and I found that I was getting may too many reboots both on the phone and on Sense for my liking.
So I switched to Modaco 2, and have been very happy for a while...
I just had yet another reboot.
I was listening to some music, when I had a notification for an email. Looked at the email, tried to lock my phone, then tried to unlock, and that's when the music went off, and my phone rebooted itself....
I'm really getting tired of this. I have not loaded any new apps in the past 2 days. I have minimal apps anyway (Facebook, Weatherbug, Handcent, NPR News, Touchdown, Power Manager and Droidswap, that is it)
does anyone have any history of problems with Droidswap ?
I'm really getting frustrated. I hate when this happens, and I'm giving realy consideration into curtailing my brief incursion onto Android and returning back to the iphone....which is a real shame, as I f**king hate ATT
I would recommend taking your phone back to the store. I have not have had one unplanned reboot the entire time I've had my Hero (bought on release date Oct 9). I'm running Fresh 1.1 now, and had 1.0 previously. There is something seriously wrong with your phone.
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
Honestly...I have never had a full reboot on its own.
I have seen Sense close out and have to reload usually after I play an intensive game, racing or something like that with alot of graphics. I assume it just runs out of ram and does its thing to get resources back.
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
bronxknight28 said:
Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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I think I can speak for the whole Android community when I say. "Please don't go" - The more of us we have the better. Given, I completely understand frustration and disappointment.
bronxknight28 said:
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
Try TTG. It's made a world of difference for me.
thedudejdog said:
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
some people just arn't made for android, and apple's buisness model is "you're too dumb to want to do that" actually applies to some people
EDIT: and there is nothing and I mean NOTHING in the world that gives me more of a nerd-boner than someone "rage-quitting" it puts a beautiful smell in the air... the smell of victory
thedudejdog said:
Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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Erm, ex-****ing-scuse me, but can you PLEASE copy the link to the post where I insulted Flipz and started talking trash ?
x99percent said:
The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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You could try stock and maybe figure out the Apps2SD scripting that way you have both.
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Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
grifforama said:
I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
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Okay...you said you've gone back to stock. When you go back to stock without any other programs loaded, are you still experiencing the issue?
If not, what I suggest is to load each of your programs one at a time, pausing after you load them for at least 12 hours to see if the reboot occurs. I know that's a time consuming process, but it may help to isolate.
If you are having reboot issues with no additional applications loaded and while you are using the stock ROM, I think there maybe something wrong with the hardware and you should take it back to Sprint for replacement.
Hopefully this helps, or at least points you in a direction to go.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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When you return, let us know your results and we'll try to help you. I'm thinking it is an application. I had this issue when I tried to update the Superuser Permission program. When it tried to update from Android Marketplace, it would reboot the phone (I actually saw "System crash is inevitable" in the trace log when it tried to update the program).
If you don't mind me asking, what version of the Stock ROM are you using? I did have issues when I was running a custom ROM (Modaco) running 1.29 and tried to upgrade to a custom ROM (again, Modaco) with 1.56. My issue was force close issues that I could not fix. The solution was to revert back to stock, let the OTA update upgrade the phone, reroot and apply the new Modaco ROM.
I understand this isn't a force close issue, but your problem may be similar in nature.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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How do I check for partitions ? I thought formatting would get rid of that ?
I remember partitioning a while back, but I have since formatted, and presumed that would have cleared it ?
I'm not back to Stock 1.56.651.2 build CL85027
I took a chance and re-installed pretty much every application I had previously, apart from the obvious rooted apps like droidswap and cachemate.
It's looking fairly stable for now, but I'll report back over the next few days to see how it goes.
I have to say, I've not once slated anyone on this forum. I have total respect for Flipz and I paid Modaco the subs to try his 2.0 beta and then the release. I really would like to use the rooted ROMS, but right now, I just want to see why my phone is doing what it's doing...
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I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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hahahahahahahahahaha...
awesome..
but ya, no problems here, sorry mate!
(either user error or bad hardware)
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I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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As jdog says in a few posts below the one I'm quoting... I have done everything I can to try and help him. I have directly worked with him. Along with a ton of other members on this forum. He chose to go to modaco and say that it fixed all his problems and trash fresh. Now here he is saying he's having the same problems.... again.
Edit: With the hard reboots you are getting, I honestly think you need to go exchange your phone.
Engadget just posted a story on the two major issues of signal loss and rebooting during calls.
Maybe with this Google will start to fix the problem? I sure hope so, as both are now affecting me more than ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
Didn't Ry guy posted that a fix is coming and they already found the problem? Its been more than 2 weeks now..
They must also fix
1)Choppy browser with and without flash.....
2)Random freeze of the gingerbread launcher...
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Didn't Ry guy posted that a fix is coming and they already found the problem? Its been more than 2 weeks now..
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I think it was posted that the reboot fix was coming, but not the loss of data.
Maybe I am just a lucky one, but I have had Nexus S since release and have only had a "random reboot" once; and no data signal loss issue AFAIK like Engadget has described. I have owned three Nexus Ss.
There are other issues, though, making it clear 2.3 is not bug free.
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Engadget just posted a story on the two major issues of signal loss and rebooting during calls.
Maybe with this Google will start to fix the problem? I sure hope so, as both are now affecting me more than ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
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and they didn't even give us XDA credits
Perhaps 2.4 is coming sooner than planned and the fixes will be implemented in that? Just a wild guess.
The article was updated. Now saying that Google fixed the issues and an OTA is coming soon.
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i'm hoping they fix the quirky back button as well. that thing is driving me crazy!
I recommended the nexus s to my girlfriend, but seeing all these issues are making me regret it :\ there are no fixes/workarounds?
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aaaaaand... 10char
Update: Huzzah! Just got a note from Google saying: "All of the issues described in the post are resolved and will be fixed with an OTA that will go out soon." Feel free to start mashing that "system updates" menu item.
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that was fast.
Weird. I haven't had a single one of the issues described in any form. However, the browser issues do make me angry.
Glad there is a hotfix on the way (for the issues mentioned, that is, not necessarily the browser issues)!
The only issue that regularly bothers me is the vanishing ringtone one. It's not exactly critical from a utilitarian standpoint, but I think it's stupid that I should have to root and move files around my phone in order to set a custom ringtone. Still, I'm far too happy with pretty much everything else to switch.
I think one major sticking point with the Nexus S is that we have a fairly lengthy list of at least semi-common issues, but in several cases it's not clear whether those are hardware- or software-related. This is troublesome because the latter may be reasonably expected to get fixed in OTAs, while the former will probably only ever be resolved through workarounds, if at all.
I would be very pleased if Google were more transparent about what it's working on, or at least aware of, even if they (understandably) don't want to commit to fix dates. As a user, just knowing the basic nature of these problems and that they are being acknowledged would go a long way towards improving customer satisfaction in my book.
SooSpecial said:
The article was updated. Now saying that Google fixed the issues and an OTA is coming soon.
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i read that there will be an ota update, but (maybe its a noob question) if your rooted will you still receive the update, and if so will it unroot the phone??
Fix the GPS!!!!!
Fix the keyboard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZdvr6Pdjk
Discussed more in depth at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932838&page=13
Should'nt we all start posting annoying threads on Facebook to Motorola and the MS2?.. I already started see here -> http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=121867580498&topic=20102
If we all do that.. they maybe atleast see it.. and think 0,0001 second about it.. thats better than nothing..!!!!
I wist it'd be that simple. With the first Milestone they've proven that they don't know what support is.
I seriously doubt it will have any effect. We all know about the MP3 problems and wrong keyboard layout... The device has been on the market for about six months and there's still no sign of a fix for those problems. Kind of annoying, having a euro sign on the keyboard, but not being able te use it.
...and Motorola knows about those issues. They simply choose not to fix them.
these two bugs are not present in custom firmware argent2stone...
try it
I already fixed those problems in the stock ROM for now I actually quite like Blur, so I don't need it (partially) removed. Unless Argen2Stone performance is undeniably better than Stock. Furthermore I don't know if it fixes the AAC problems, so I don't feel like reinstalling it now...
Still, that isn't the point. It's about the fact Motorola should've pushed a fix for those issues. They're minor, highly annoying and not everybody wants to root their phone to fix such issues.
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Still, that isn't the point. It's about the fact Motorola should've pushed a fix for those issues. They're minor, highly annoying and not everybody wants to root their phone to fix such issues.
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Absolutely. +1
Hi
Is there anything on Android like Event manager on Windows, where I can go back and check what caused the crash?
I'm on SuperStock kernel and Superman Rom. Not changed much, besides having Xposed with Greenify and Amplify (with only a few standard alarms blocked).
Suddenly I got a Clash Royale crashed, then 3 vibrations and then a reboot. Would love to go back to see what caused the issue.
Thanks in advance
Good luck getting help with this on this site. I've asked a very similar question twice here over the past 4 mo. and have heard nothing from anyone. Disappointing.
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Good luck getting help with this on this site. I've asked a very similar question twice here over the past 4 mo. and have heard nothing from anyone. Disappointing.
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I don't know if this happens on all XDA or just in this forum, I remember a while ago there are a huge community to help on anything, but that was when I owned a lot of sony phones...
anyways....
OP, u should check your rom/kernel thread to see if someone has that problem,u maybe need a log to know exactly whats happening (and help to solve the cause), check thread first though, maybe the answer is there
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so, I've built a buggy cm14 that's good enough to look at and play a little with the features that do work, and watch the eye candy and all.
it has wifi and bluetooth and SMS messaging.
Otherwise broken telephony.
only some of the sound works. no camera, nfc, location.
the idea is a poll.
I figure people like to click buttons, so the poll suits that.
I'm amazed at your skills. And I have learned a lot from reading this thread. More importantly, my VM 816 is still functional.
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I think you can release it whatever people use or not , but 816 is my only 4G phone.I will test it till the Calling Services worked
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I'm amazed at your skills. And I have learned a lot from reading this thread. More importantly, my VM 816 is still functional.
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A lot of what I do is googling errors, borrowing commits from other cm devices with similar chipsets, (and commenting out lines that throw errors in the build until I figure out workarounds... not the most kosher of methods.)
It's fun, but I often lean heavily on stuff that's already been done by others. Grarak put up really nice device trees to work from on this device for example, and my first tweaks at it were just after it had faded from cm nightlies. Made it comparatively easy next to my Optimus or Evo3d.
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I think you can release it whatever people use or not , but 816 is my only 4G phone.I will test it till the Calling Services worked
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Odds are the basic call services will be online way before 4G. Especially since my 4G service is still broken and has ben for quite a while. I'll hassle Virgin Mobile about a replacement sim card soon; research and talking with a Ting rep both imply that would fix my issue.
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so, I've built a buggy cm14 that's good enough to look at and play a little with the features that do work, and watch the eye candy and all.
it has wifi and bluetooth, possibly nfc, probably no location, totally broken telephony.
only some of the sound works. no camera.
the idea is a poll.
I figure people like to click buttons, so the poll suits that.
Read this post and you see that clicking the thanks button counts more than voting...
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I think you should upload the zip. Legacy devices are getting cm 14. Why we are late?
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I think you should upload the zip. Legacy devices are getting cm 14. Why we are late?
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Well, htc certainly won't be releasing N for my a5_chl (Virgin Mobile variant) since they wouldn't even let M out the door for it.
you can partly name lack of manufacturer support.
And I get tired of complaints about nonworking items from people who don't read the OP, so I'm waiting for adequate interest to post it (big upload on poor isp, couple hours.)
Plus there's inability to test dug/dwg and that's twice the upload bandwidth. But few source changes to build for them, and some dual sim owners would enjoy buggy N too.
Several reasons that N isn't out in the wild yet for the a5. But I'll probably set it free to roam soon.
Question about CM14
When you let it roam, I'm ready to try it out. But I have two questions. First, I am delighted with CM13. It was the first time I ever flashed a phone and it is working nearly perfect. A hiccup or two but nothing I cannot handle. It has extended the useful life of my VM 816 A5 and saved me from buying another phone. Here's two questions for CM14 whenever it becomes available. Can I just backup my existing files with TWRP, Wipe and flash CM14? Then, the real question is if I don't like it, can I completely restore what I have now with RESTORE? The last thing I want is to ruin CM13. Thanks for helping this newby.
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When you let it roam, I'm ready to try it out. But I have two questions. First, I am delighted with CM13. It was the first time I ever flashed a phone and it is working nearly perfect. A hiccup or two but nothing I cannot handle. It has extended the useful life of my VM 816 A5 and saved me from buying another phone. Here's two questions for CM14 whenever it becomes available. Can I just backup my existing files with TWRP, Wipe and flash CM14? Then, the real question is if I don't like it, can I completely restore what I have now with RESTORE? The last thing I want is to ruin CM13. Thanks for helping this newby.
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yes, and yes. I restore cm13 over messed up cm14 regularly.
Still fighting with ril. location not working at all in spite of the switch working. and nfc probably will work once I get the firmware moved to wherever it's looking. but all the sound seems to be working now.
Ed128 said:
When you let it roam, I'm ready to try it out. But I have two questions. First, I am delighted with CM13. It was the first time I ever flashed a phone and it is working nearly perfect. A hiccup or two but nothing I cannot handle. It has extended the useful life of my VM 816 A5 and saved me from buying another phone. Here's two questions for CM14 whenever it becomes available. Can I just backup my existing files with TWRP, Wipe and flash CM14? Then, the real question is if I don't like it, can I completely restore what I have now with RESTORE? The last thing I want is to ruin CM13. Thanks for helping this newby.
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Yes you can just Backup and Restore your previous ROM. Just be careful, wipe system and dalvik cache and cache. CM13 has some problems but mostly everything works on 816.
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Yes you can just Backup and Restore your previous ROM. Just be careful, wipe system and dalvik cache and cache. CM13 has some problems but mostly everything works on 816.
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ninja'd you this time.
I've been able to dirty flash 14 over 13, but previously installed apps get denied permissions and stuff like that.
bigsupersquid said:
ninja'd you this time.
I've been able to dirty flash 14 over 13, but previously installed apps get denied permissions and stuff like that.
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Yup you got me, I usually don't dirty flash always clean flash. Since I use Root Essentials as partition of sdcard. When ever you get it to work,I'll be a tester. Let me know.
That's something I can deal with. Just don't want to go too far past my limited "expertise". And, not trying to hurry things. I'm a happy CM13 customer.
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That's something I can deal with. Just don't want to go too far past my limited "expertise". And, not trying to hurry things. I'm a happy CM13 customer.
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If you need help,just ask,I'm always on and off.
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so, I've built a buggy cm14 that's good enough to look at and play a little with the features that do work, and watch the eye candy and all.
it has wifi and bluetooth, possibly nfc, probably no location, totally broken telephony.
only some of the sound works. no camera.
the idea is a poll.
I figure people like to click buttons, so the poll suits that.
Read this post and you see that clicking the thanks button counts more than voting...
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Love your work!!!
D816w
what could be the estimated date for the first beta? hunger to flash this CM14.....
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what could be the estimated date for the first beta? hunger to flash this CM14.....
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Its really not a good idea to ask for ETAs. Specially when not many things work.
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what could be the estimated date for the first beta? hunger to flash this CM14.....
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Its really not a good idea to ask for ETAs. Specially when not many things work.
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It's ok in this thread, since that's kind of what it's about.
If I can stabilize the radio glitches enough that all the telephony stops force-closing constantly I'll release an alpha, there isn't tons of interest but there seems to be enough.
After all, if I were in your shoes I'd want a release to check out.
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It's ok in this thread, since that's kind of what it's about.
If I can stabilize the radio glitches enough that all the telephony stops force-closing constantly I'll release an alpha, there isn't tons of interest but there seems to be enough.
After all, if I were in your shoes I'd want a release to check out.
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I sorta may get a flashing bug if you put up a alpha. I just thought I would put my 2 cents in about ETAs. Not a good thing sometimes.
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I sorta may get a flashing bug if you put up a alpha. I just thought I would put my 2 cents in about ETAs. Not a good thing sometimes.
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A lot of developers get uppity about ETAs.
I imagine with hot new devices and hundreds of posts a week it would get really old.
I usually just warn people that I have too much on my 'real-world' plate for my own taste and that my hobby work (this) ends up on the bottom of my get-er-done list.
Plus I like to put up it's-almost-ready posts and then take forever to upload:angel: and similar annoying delayed releases. Like I rebuilt for the OV a little while ago, posted about it, and never debugged or released it at all.
Bad dev :cyclops:
I put this thread out in general 816 to encourage comments and questions.
Once the alpha is out I'll open a thread in Original Dev (and post a link to it here) since cm14 is definitely original right now.
About to flash another test build!
Test has sms but no phone.
No Bluetooth.
Close to being uploadable.
assuming the next build isn't in any worse shape than this one (should have working BT, and I'm really hoping for at least 3g data and maybe phone service) then I'll try pushing the zip to AFH. If my landline internet stays connected long enough to get it upstream...