Bootloader Problems - Mogul, XV6800 General

I have spent the last two days reading all the past forums on the problems that people are having with the mogul being stuck in the bootloader screen. I find my problem a little more unique. My phone, about three months ago would get stuck in the bootloader screen after I did a soft reset. I could get out of it if I plugged a cord into the mini usb on the phone. Now I can't. I can't get it out of the bootloader at any effort. I have never tried to upgrade the rom or anything. Its all stock. I tried downloading the exit boot loader program, the program says it worked, my phone will shut off on its own and then go back into the bootloader screen to no avail. I even took it to the sprint repair and they said it is a brick. I'm at my last straw, anyone have any ideas before I give up and buy a new phone.
Thanks.

you have a hardware failure. Time for a new phone.

I was worried about that. Thanks for the info.

Just a little update. Although my phone never connects through active sync, I can upload rom, at least it shows it going through 100% on the phone screen. After the upload it goes back to the bootloader screen and is stuck again. Is this still a dead phone?

Yes it is dieing

Mine did the same. Did a hard reset and put on the latest ROM...fixed and going strong.
btw, take out your mini SD before the reset...hope it works out and you havent trashed the phone...Sprint repair told me the same thing..DOA...can't hurt to try it.

Just on 9/14 I began to experience the same problem with a refurb that I was sent just 5 months ago as a warranty replacement to my original phone. I also made this post in another thread about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4547989&postcount=18
I've been calling Sprint over and over about it, they refuse to do anything about it. I was told just a few days before this problem began that they would allow me $150 towards a new phone upgrade with a 2 year contract extension, but now they tell me I can't do that until January and they can't find any notes about it from the person who told me I could do it. I was told I would be given a new retail packaged phone, instead I got a refurb that lasted me 5 months. I've been nothing but lied to by Sprint, when I got the refurb they said I had 30 days to add insurance on it and they would send me a new phone, I said I would think about it and call back within 30 days if I decide to get insurance, but they put it on my account anyway without my permission. It took me 5 months to get them to finally take the insurance off my account on 9/11 and just 3 days later it starts having this problem... argh... any ideas or ways to get through with Sprint to get more towards an upgrade?
I was wanting to get the Touch Pro 2, if I wait until January they will offer me $150 for 2 year contract extension and $100 mail in rebate bringing the $600 price tag down to $350. I paid $300 initially for my mogul and now have a 5 month old dying refurb. I think sprint should offer me at least half my money back from my Mogul for another $150 towards an upgrade bringing the Touch Pro 2 down to $200 which is far more reasonable, after all Verizon is offering the same phone for $200 with 2 year contract. I was talking with retentions for the 2nd time today threatening to cancel, yesterday they were offering to get me to the Advanced Tech Support to do an advance exchange for a new phone of a different model (I was thinking they might offer a Touch Pro) and transferred me, then when the tech support asked for my wireless number I gave it to them then the call got disconnected, looked like they had hung up on me. When I called today they told me otherwise, and the only offer they would make me is to allow me out of my current contract with Sprint so I could cancel my service and find another provider. I'm on the $30/mo SERO plan... of course I don't REALLY want to leave Sprint... Does anyone have any other strategy for pushing Sprint to keep a customer and offer at least SOMETHING? I don't know what else to do, I've wasted so much time with Sprint and haven't been getting anywhere with them.
BTW: when I took it to a Sprint store they offered to re-flash the ROM on it but said there is an equal chance of fixing it or bricking it, but they would not offer any liability if it got bricked. I can flash the ROM myself with activesync just as well as they can, I can I brick it just as well as they can, do you think it's worth attempting it and that might fix it? Or is there any REAL potential for bricking my phone?

Just do an advanced replacement online through sprint.

It will not allow me to do an advance exchange or upgrade on Sprint's website, it directs me to sprint.com/everythingplus because I am on the SERO 500 plan. I also tried calling 888-882-4030 which is the number for Sales for employee referral accounts and was given the same price on the Touch Pro 2, it's not any different for SERO accounts or online, it's all the same.

Well if you go to ppcgeeks and look at the touch pro 2 section people are getting the TP2 with sero at the regular upgrade price with an extension.

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Any Luck with Verizon insurance claim?

I'm getting tired of getting refurbished phones from Verizon and my current phone is acting up so I figured I would give Asurion a shot and try and get a TP. When I called they told me the deductible would be 50 and I would be getting a replacement Titan. So I was wondering if anyone has had any luck getting a TP from Asurion. I really would hate to pay 50 dollars for a refurb when I could save my money and just buy a Sprint TP. Does anyone have any recent success stories or maybe things to tell Asurion so they will change your phone to a TP.
Just a note getting a Sprint TP on Verizon is very very very hard now. Keep getting refurbish ones. Maybe complain that the quality of the refurbished ones sucks and see that they can do for you. Assurion will give out TP sometimes but only if they are out of moguls.
Just a heads up, I tried that route after getting 2 refurbs with problems with verizon. They finally sent me a brand new, in-box, xv6800 with no issues. They still have new 6800s instock, so good luck with getting the TP.
I just called them the other day to try and get a TP for my Titan from Asurion - no dice.
It took forever to get to the verification step because I'm Alltel (well, was Alltel until vzw bought them) and they weren't recognizing what Alltel calls the Titan (HTC PPC6800) as a valid option. Finally figured out that now that I'm verizon it's called the audiovox xv6800 or something like that and they could proceed. But to my dismay they claimed they still have lots of 6800's in stock and would just send one of those. I even tried to be sleazy and was like "Oh really? When I called Verizon they said that they don't support the 6800 anymore and are only issuing 6850's". Needless to say that didn't work. Since I'm up for upgrade in a few months I guess I'll just wait till then - just figured that it'd be awesome if I could get a TP for the deductable cost AND not have to renew a contract with vzw.
I've read on some other forums that if you can do the claim on Asurion's website that sometimes it will let you pick the 6850 as the replacement phone. Unfortunately, and for some unknown reason, whenever I try to initiate a claim on their site it says "you must call customer support to proceed". I asked them about that and they said they don't have control over it and can't do anything about it. I was not amused.
i got a NIB palm 800w for my mogul..they would not go touch pro for me....ive since canned the palm and went to another mogul...they said the wait time for a mogul was six weeks!!!!
mfreema said:
Just a heads up, I tried that route after getting 2 refurbs with problems with verizon. They finally sent me a brand new, in-box, xv6800 with no issues. They still have new 6800s instock, so good luck with getting the TP.
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you may want to wait. Much buz on net about verizon getting touch hd

Bricked AT&T G1 returnable to T-mo?

I am an AT&T customer that uses-- used a rooted G1 from eBay. I called HTC, and they told me the manufacturer warranties on the G1 ended last month.
How likely is it that I could convince someone at the local T-mobile store to help me with a replacement?​
I'm assuming not at all likely, but I've read stranger things here on xda. I'm imagining they have the phone's IMEI tied to some grand customer database to show that I'm just some bum with a G1. I do have a friend with T-mobile (and a G1), but if it is tied to the IMEI, they wouldn't just take my phone from her if I paid her?
I'm really not looking forward to buying a whole new phone, but I have accepted that this is probably my only option, so please don't flame too thoroughly.
(I did several searches, but almost none were relevant to AT&T/eBay return combo. Unless I just suck at searching.)
You are right, you have 0 chance of T-Mobile swapping or doing anything at all.
how did it break?
TMobile won't support you unless you bought the phone from them.
I called HTC last week to check on my G1 warranty since TMobile wouldn't support me. I was told (by HTC) that warranty is 15 months. Mine expires next month. Did you give them your S/N to check your warranty?
Though, if it was rooted then your warranty is void. Unless you want to pay for them to fix it for you, don't send it in. I don't know how they know if you rooted or modified anything, but if they find out you will be charged a minimum (triage) fee even if you decide you don't want to pay for actual repairs.
I sent them one that was previously rooted and obviously had been torn apart- no moisture sticker even. Told them I got it that way on Craigslist. Didnt cost me a dime besides shipping (Priority Mail $5) and time. HTC direct rules IMO.
The Triage fee is for them to diagnose it, and is only charged if you are out of warranty, or if it is your fault. The fee also includes return shipping.
I spoke to a rep, and when I gave her the S/N she said it expired on 12.25.9. I'm not sure where she was getting the date considering I bought the phone in May, but it definitely wasn't 15 months. I can't imagine the phone was already 6 months old when I bought it unless it was just sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
I had another idea though. Possibly stupid, but possibly genius, too?
What if I went to T-mo, and bought a phone without a plan. Then switched the motherboards and got a replacement for the broken one. Then I could returned the new one? Is this mad?
Not only is it mad, it would be really obvious what you did since all those void stickers would be removed in the process, as well when found out there would be hell to pay on your end for trying to fraudulantly switch devices like that. As well, the mother board has the serial # on it both physically and electronically, and this can't be changed.
Ah. I guess the good old G1 is going into a drawer somewhere until one day (hopefully) it can be un-bricked.
Since I have to buy a new phone anyway now, would anyone care to throw in their two cents for the Cliq or the X1a as a replacement Android phone under 300 without contract?
You could also get a used G1 off eBay in great condition for about $200. I got mine in perfect like new condition for $200 back in Septemeber, when I was looking they were going typically for about $225-$250 in that condition, but I waited for the best deal(took about a week of watching to get the deal I did). I would assume with the Nexus One coming out and being post X-Mas season, prices are down a bit, but will likely go back up a little come February when tax season starts.
Keep an eye out for a cracked g1 or one with other problems, then re-use the board. I see them on CL for $40-60 regularly (although none right now).
I would talk to HTC and tell them where you bought it and when, it helps if you have the transaction recorded! You should be able to convince them to cover it if you have enough proof. Nothing wrong with using the truth to your advantage.
Depending on where you live, you can find a good number of people selling their G1 on craigslist. I got bored and just did a search now.
$70 w/o battery or cover (sounds sketchy).. $100 in good condition.. $200 unlocked. Seems like the average is $150 around here.
I got mine for 100 brand new shipped from tmobile! The person didn't want it as they got a new phone so you may get lucky and get a brand new one for a real cheap price
I bought a cracked G1 on ebay for ~90USD. I found 2 within 100mi on craigslist, but both were scooped up by someone else within the first hour of being on the list.
I followed the step-by-step guide here to swap the phones' guts and now I have a locked (but not bricked) phone, and a dud.
Maybe I can still fetch a few bucks for the bricked, cracked (screen) phone.
With the Nexus out now I bet quite a few early adopters like me are switching. I got a msg from my buddy today saying once his Nexus arrives the G1 is for sale. He wants $100 for it, pretty average price around here for a working, but not mint, G1
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TMobile won't support you unless you bought the phone from them.
I called HTC last week to check on my G1 warranty since TMobile wouldn't support me. I was told (by HTC) that warranty is 15 months. Mine expires next month. Did you give them your S/N to check your warranty?
Though, if it was rooted then your warranty is void. Unless you want to pay for them to fix it for you, don't send it in. I don't know how they know if you rooted or modified anything, but if they find out you will be charged a minimum (triage) fee even if you decide you don't want to pay for actual repairs.
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Correction, TMobile will not support you, even if you bought a phone from them.

How to Get a Vibrant for $350: The Hard Way

NOTE: THIS IS A REPOST, I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED IT IN THE WRONG AREA, sorry.
Hello everyone,
I have one hell of a story to tell about one boy, two phones (the htc hd2 and the samsung vibrant), and one freakin' committed customer service team (T-Mobile's). OK, so I'll begin my story of how I ended up with a brand-new Vibrant for essentially 350 bucks. Bear with me here, it's a bit long. So, I originally purchased an htc hd2 way back in mid-June for 300 bucks on Craigslist. The phone ended up being defective because of a hardware issue, and because it happened to be under the "buyer's remorse" period, at least the way T-Mobile saw it, I was able to return it by mail for a brand new one for free. I was surprised when I called to learn that T-Mobile didn't require a single piece of information to verify that I was the original owner of the phone, all they saw was that an htc hd2 had magically been activated on such and such a date. So, I returned that hd2 and recieved a new one in a couple of days, which ended up being just as buggy as the last one, so I decided to abandon the hd2 altogether in exchange for the Samsung Vibrant. I called T-Mobile customer service today to setup the exchange for the vibrant, which would cost me 50 bucks since the hd2 cost 450 and the vibrant costs 500, and I was FINALLY told that they had no record of me ever buying an hd2 (I wonder why, lol). I then explained to them that I wasn't the original owner of the phone and that I had bought it from the original owner, but that the phone had been purchased only a few days before they sold it to me. They told me at first that I would have contact the original owner and get the 450 bucks credited back to there account. The only problem was that I had no way of contacting the original owner, and that they had switched carriers almost immediately after purchasing the hd2. After about four hours, and many many phone calls later, I called t-mobile one last time to explain my situation, keep in mind that I was totally honest the entire time, I reached a very nice customer service rep, and after explaining what had happened to me, and after speaking to her supervisor for over ten minutes, she told me that even though they almost never do this, that they would "take my word for it" and send the vibrant, no questions asked, for basically 50 bucks. I was over the moon considering that less than 5 minutes ago I had thought that I had thrown away 300 dollars. I would like to give some major props to T-Mobile's customer support, never in a million years would I have expected a customer service team work so hard to keep a a customer happy. Talk about going the distance. Well, that's my story. Tell me what you think, and what your experiences with them have been like.
Peace, bobofosho12
WOW.. but Yes.. I think they have the best... that's a steel for 50 $ wow..
HTC is nice too.. i ordered parts for my nexus i was going to purchase them and they didn't allow me to pay.. lol.. they just said they will mail it and that included a second pouch/battery/ battery cover and headphones.. I could not believe it.. but I am glad I am with T-mo and own a HTC device.
amen brotha'. Although I'm actually gonna sell the vibrant once I get it on ebay, and then just buy a cheap used nexus one. Maybe, but i'm not totally decided yet.
Tmobile paid off my 280 in payments on an old Cliq I had. Basically because I purchsed it 6 months ago saw a great replacement in the Vibrant . Squeaky wheel is the way to go with T -mobile but you need to be calm cool and nice
That's why I came back to them. Was with them for 5 years before switching to AT&T because of my daughters bugging me for the iphone. I went back to Tmobile because of their incredible customer service, never experienced anything like it before. Kudos to T-mobile.
AT&T customer service sucks big big time! Congrats on your new Vibrant!
This is almost exactly what happened to me! T mobile customer service is damn good! I did threaten to switch carriers though, and they came through to keep me as a customer. I wasn't eligible for an upgrade, but once I threatened to go to sprint and get the epic they let me have my vibrant for $200!
musky said:
This is almost exactly what happened to me! T mobile customer service is damn good! I did threaten to switch carriers though, and they came through to keep me as a customer. I wasn't eligible for an upgrade, but once I threatened to go to sprint and get the epic they let me have my vibrant for $200!
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I assume with a contract extension yes?
bobofosho123 said:
NOTE: THIS IS A REPOST, I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED IT IN THE WRONG AREA, sorry.
Hello everyone,
I have one hell of a story to tell about one boy, two phones (the htc hd2 and the samsung vibrant), and one freakin' committed customer service team (T-Mobile's). OK, so I'll begin my story of how I ended up with a brand-new Vibrant for essentially 350 bucks. Bear with me here, it's a bit long. So, I originally purchased an htc hd2 way back in mid-June for 300 bucks on Craigslist. The phone ended up being defective because of a hardware issue, and because it happened to be under the "buyer's remorse" period, at least the way T-Mobile saw it, I was able to return it by mail for a brand new one for free. I was surprised when I called to learn that T-Mobile didn't require a single piece of information to verify that I was the original owner of the phone, all they saw was that an htc hd2 had magically been activated on such and such a date. So, I returned that hd2 and recieved a new one in a couple of days, which ended up being just as buggy as the last one, so I decided to abandon the hd2 altogether in exchange for the Samsung Vibrant. I called T-Mobile customer service today to setup the exchange for the vibrant, which would cost me 50 bucks since the hd2 cost 450 and the vibrant costs 500, and I was FINALLY told that they had no record of me ever buying an hd2 (I wonder why, lol). I then explained to them that I wasn't the original owner of the phone and that I had bought it from the original owner, but that the phone had been purchased only a few days before they sold it to me. They told me at first that I would have contact the original owner and get the 450 bucks credited back to there account. The only problem was that I had no way of contacting the original owner, and that they had switched carriers almost immediately after purchasing the hd2. After about four hours, and many many phone calls later, I called t-mobile one last time to explain my situation, keep in mind that I was totally honest the entire time, I reached a very nice customer service rep, and after explaining what had happened to me, and after speaking to her supervisor for over ten minutes, she told me that even though they almost never do this, that they would "take my word for it" and send the vibrant, no questions asked, for basically 50 bucks. I was over the moon considering that less than 5 minutes ago I had thought that I had thrown away 300 dollars. I would like to give some major props to T-Mobile's customer support, never in a million years would I have expected a customer service team work so hard to keep a a customer happy. Talk about going the distance. Well, that's my story. Tell me what you think, and what your experiences with them have been like.
Peace, bobofosho12
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Kudos! Thanks for sharing...that's awesome.
Yea the HD2 is death ain't it? Damn windows...what were they thinking?
This gives me some hope. I have been jacked around by Tmobile for over a week now. One of their stores screwed me over with the G1. They gave me a $50 break on the phone, and extended my contract for 2 years because of that $50. I had NO clue that is what they were doing. Once I found out, I was pissed. The CSR put in their system that I could upgrade at normal extension costs at any time. So, just after the Vibrant came out, I went to take them up on that. The problem, is how it is done in the system, I could only get the discount rate through Tmobile, not through a 3rd party store. I tried to get the Vibrant + accessories at Costco for $99. Since then, I have been completely jacked around by customer service. I finally got my FIRST CALL back yesterday... while I was using the restroom. They said they would call back today. Thus far, my experience is pretty poor.
This gives me some hope. I have been jacked around by Tmobile for over a week now. One of their stores screwed me over with the G1. They gave me a $50 break on the phone, and extended my contract for 2 years because of that $50. I had NO clue that is what they were doing. Once I found out, I was pissed. The CSR put in their system that I could upgrade at normal extension costs at any time. So, just after the Vibrant came out, I went to take them up on that. The problem, is how it is done in the system, I could only get the discount rate through Tmobile, not through a 3rd party store. I tried to get the Vibrant + accessories at Costco for $99. Since then, I have been completely jacked around by customer service. I finally got my FIRST CALL back yesterday... while I was using the restroom. They said they would call back today. Thus far, my experience is pretty poor.
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Sorry to hear that man, this is the only advice i can offer you, be nice and remember that that person on the other end, who may just seem like an annoying voice, is a real person who is probably having a much harder day than you are (I can't imagine being a customer service rep). If you're nice but VERY persistent you can generally get what you want, and remember it me like four hours to get this **** shorted for me. I had to explain it to like five different people, and only upon getting to a VERY KIND service rep did I finally get a good solution to my problem.
iunlock said:
Kudos! Thanks for sharing...that's awesome.
Yea the HD2 is death ain't it? Damn windows...what were they thinking?
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Yeah thanks man, and by the way, even though windows mobile is a ****ty OS, it's actually pretty stable, it's actually the sense UI that makes the HD2 so damn unstable, even after the "official" update that was supposed to correct the problems. Just turn off sense and the phone works fine, it's just ugly as hell to use.

Fouth Bell i9000m phone is DOA, Bell wants me to pay for an early hardware upgrade

Thought I would share this here.
My replacement i9000m arrived via purolator this morning. I turned it on and signed in with my google account to start installing apps and suddenly the phone pressed the back button by itself. Every 5 - 10 seconds the lights come on, the haptic feedback buzzes and the back button presses itself.
On the phone with Bell now and they are trying to convince me to pay for an early hardware upgrade for my phone (yes you read that right, pay!) so they can switch me to a different device. I am on the 3rd level of escalation now, waiting on hold.
This is REDICULOUS!
give em hell
5th replacement device has been ordered, on its way to me. Will have to wait another 3 - 5 business days. Maybe 5th time lucky??
Bell offered to rebate 3 months payment of my base plan as compensation - essentially another $150 on top of the $100 rebate I got last week. They are saying the problem is a hardware provider problem (samsung), not a network provider problem but they are still giving me the rebate.
At least now I dont care any more - my original SGS cost me just over $200, I got my money back. If the next one fails at least I am not out of pocket.
wow... this is crazy... Bell wants you to pay to "upgrade" the phone, they gotta be insane >.>
as if they think they can offer you a better phone, LOL
There are lots of threads covering this, Bell should at the minimum offer a free replacement and usually $100 compensation.
Just elevate to managers and give em a hard time until they do what they are supposed to. I've had equally hellish experiences with AT&T in the sates
:knock on wood: that my i9000m doesn't fail
if it fails, just find a Canadian fella to help you send in the phone for repair

Anyone Scoop From Costco?

Anyone have any luck with purchasing from Costco? I'm within my 90 day return policy for my HTC One X. My Costco rep said they will be selling them around/on the 10th because they are going to sell the AT&T and Verizon models at the same time. But...that's what they could have just told me.
If it was an upgrade, make sure you ask them (Costco and T-Mobile) if you're account will still be eligible for an upgrade for the SGSIII. I think their system is a lil' different with the T-Mobile system and they might not have the authorization to do it right (might lose the upgrade privilege in their system). I think I read about a similar situation here on XDA. I'm not 100% sure, but rather be safe then sorry.
That's what I'm scared of. I went there last week and asked. I said I'm having issues with my One X (which I am. Having the issue where the top right corner of the screen feels like its peeling off, because I can press it back into place), and she said if you're in your 90 days, then you're fine. She just said that I need to make sure that if I'm within those days, either get a new phone or wait till the s3 is released. But she didn't seem too confident either...
I work in a kiosk and can confirm that you can exchange the phone within the 90 days as long as you keep the contract, which since it's after 30 days you are stuck with it anyways. Since there is no contract alteration, they should simply just process the return in our own system (not AT&T's) and then swap SIM cards to send you on your way. That is how is it supposed to be done, at least. Of course it all depends on if the rep you get is either lazy or has no clue what they are doing.

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