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I'm sure many people here agree that it's very annoying when you're speaking on the phone and your ear accidentally opens up windows and programs or even worse - ends the call!
Surely one of you very clever chaps can make an app that uses the light sensor so that the Diamond knows you are speaking and therefore locks the screen.
It would help so much,
S.
The clever people already did it but because we, normal people, are too lazy to search through, can´t see it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
...and this is just one example
I'm aware of this software but how does it work within phonecalls? I'm not talking about when the phone rings, I mean post-unlock during the phonecall...
read the post man, it`s not very large and you will find it like I did
The program doesn't do what I describe above, although the idea is brought up a few times in the thread. It can switch off the screen but i'm talking about the light sensor doing this automatically...
The Diamond already turns off the screen when you hold it to your ear (by using the light sensor)...
I thought the diamond shut off the screen on speaking/connecting the call? Plus, it doesn't turn back on without pressing the power button...
the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.
:-( Damn! That's a shame.
Blazeitup123 said:
the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.
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Interesting, the light sensor of my phone can do this. Initially, the screen turned off whenever I picked up a call. I found it annoying because many a times, I need to use the screen to key in some numbers (pin, a/c numbers, whatever). Then, I used Adv. Conf. to turn this feature off. And I found it even more annoying as I actually hanged up twice by my ear accidentally touching "end call" button. Now, I turned this back on again.... still annoying but less....
I think your light sensor should be able to do this. Maybe you can check this feature on Adv. Conf. to see if it's turned off by accident.
The only things that were turned off in adv.config were 'sleep during call' and 'fast sleep'. I have switched these on and the screen does switch off but is this due to the light sensor? I now use S2U2's feature to switch the screen off as it's faster (screen switches off on connection)...
But, with all these options, I also find it annoying when I have to key in my pin etc. That's why utilising the light sensor so when you take the phone away from your face it switches back on, would be great.
this is really funny! some ppl want this thing off and some ppl want this thing on.
for the record:
the diamond is by default switching off the screen after a few seconds. when i said the diamond i meant the light sensor.
now, from the history:
long, long time ago (about 3-4 months ) the devs here were trying to switch off this feature because if you have to dial one more number or want to switch yr speaker you'll face a black screen (just touch the middle/enter button and you are back in business). some said it is the light sensor, some said it is a timer.....mostly they tried by registry tweaks, don't even remember who was the first to succeed but it was a great victory ...hahahaha
today we have a few options. one of them (the most popular one i think) is schap's advanced configuration. another was is the famous twaek 3.2 (today is 5?).
on the last month we have a few ROMs that already had this tweak built in. i think our friend here has one of those ROMs of them (because he ha sit tweaked already).
m8 i think you can switch this option back to default (switch off the screen) with the advanced config tool.
this one is an example (i think this one was the first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2278799&postcount=1-tweak no 8.
you can also look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406151&highlight=screen+call
or this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=screen+call
one more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415356&highlight=screen+call
and so on ....everything a search away (i used "screen+call")
Thanks for the post, my issue wasn't how to get the screen off during a call. It was what causes it to go off and if it is the light sensor, could an app be made so that when the phone is taken away from your face, the screen switches on again.
I agree. I would love it to switch off as default, but also TURN ON when I pull the phone away from my face... I can't understand why this is not the default behaviour. I have some time later on this month I will look at this more carefully and possibly program the solution.
Sprint Diamond
I agree that would be great. My screen on my Sprint Diamond has never turned off during a phone call. I didn't even know that was a feature on some diamonds until this thread. I have tried making a call and then covering the light sensor but nothing happens. So, here is my vote for the ability to get a screen that turns on and off as you put it to your ear and take it away.
just work exactly the same as iphone and the problem will be solved.......
Hello
I tried many locking applications on my diamond. But i didn't find the one i need.
I'm looking for a program that locks screen and keys when the phone is inserted in its cover, and unlock when put out.
Example : my GPS is on, i put my phone in its cover using the earphones (i am on my motorbike), its in my pocket. I need to lock the screen and keys.
Thanks for your help.
Did you try touchlock pro?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
Shark_XXL said:
Did you try touchlock pro?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
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Tx for your answer Shark.
Yes i tried it yesterday. The main problem i have is about lock. I have not found any program that locks the sreen and keys when the light sensor detects no light.
i'm using pocket shield which is a great locking software with many configuration including using light sensor to unlock u should give it a try
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/default.htm
cheers
Tx Shonan.
I tried it, its good !
In fact my real problem is to lock the phone when i use my gps. Unlocking is not a real problem but locking is never depending on the light sensor.
Anyone ? thanks ...
I use S2U2 - before I put my diamond in the my jacket I press the power button and it sleeps the device. When somebody calls - S2U2 manages the call with slide2answer/ignore call - no chance to answer the call when pulling out the device out of my pocket. Where's the big deal with all this locking..I never had problems with it. (Sorry if I sound offensive, I am not offensive)
milillicuti said:
Tx Shonan.
I tried it, its good !
In fact my real problem is to lock the phone when i use my gps. Unlocking is not a real problem but locking is never depending on the light sensor.
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The light sensor is too unreliable for using it for locking purposes, so therefore it is only used in TouchLockPro for unlocking. Actually, the light sensor is not so sensitive, so if there seems to be plenty of light, the light sensor does not sense light.
TouchLockPro just locks by default, when you just press the power off button. Actually, for GPS usage, you can keep the device locked, without ever unlocking. Even it can go to suspend when the backlight goes off.
Malicieux said:
I use S2U2 - before I put my diamond in the my jacket I press the power button and it sleeps the device. When somebody calls - S2U2 manages the call with slide2answer/ignore call - no chance to answer the call when pulling out the device out of my pocket. Where's the big deal with all this locking..I never had problems with it. (Sorry if I sound offensive, I am not offensive)
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Brother, I had tried s2u2 for my diamond and it seem to be unstable if you are a frequent caller and lot of incoming call waiting on the other line during your cal season. You will feel the lagging and slow in the display to return to the normal displayed screen. There for I decide to uninstall it as what I need is a lock screen program that only lock the screen and that's what I need. Any one can help?
sensorlock 0.3.4 works great for me, just spin the phone in your hand and it's locked. I use it for GPS/music when running where I want the apps running but don't want to press the screen or buttons accidentally. It's on this forum.
I need this too, a lock based on the light sensor. Sensorlock doesnt work very well as it locks and unlocks on random movements (eg, when walking with it in your pocket), and not just gestures.
I have a real dilemma in that I think the HTC is so much better than other devices I've had but it's terrible in terms of one feature - answering phonecalls. Initially, I spent several days inadvertently calling friends and colleagues from my pocket. A bit of research and I installed the S2U2 locker. That work insofar as I stopped calling people at random but S2U2 - or S2U2 and the other software I have installed - conspired together in such a way that it was almost impossible to slide/tap/punch/kick my phone when an incoming call was shown to speak to the person. I missed 90% of incoming calls due to my device ignoring my attempts to answer the call. I've since uninstalled this and installed LockMeLite which was a gem for a couple of days. And then today the same thing happened. I couldn't unlock my handset as the "incoming call" pop-up was covering it. And another (this time, pretty important) call went to voicemail. I really can't go on like this. Does anyone have a better solution or is it time for me to go back to Nokia? I need a smartphone, not a PDA...
Thanks.
HD Tweak and set it to lock when the phone is on standby, then when a call comes in just press the lest phone key and it answers, works fine for me.
Thanks, I'll try that. I have HD Tweak installed, but that's something I haven't tried changing.
better yet, don't install those locking apps.
Try PocketShield.
It locks your device and has a differente unlocking method on incoming calls that allows you to unlock+answer and unlock+refuse call.
Perhaps Psygnosis84 didn't follow my original post - I installed "those locking apps" because I kept accidently calling people when the HD was in my pocket.
Thanks, syqe, for the tip. What KickAssMoves suggested (the setting in HD Tweak) has worked fine so far, but I'll try PocketShield as well.
This is a critical design flaw in my opinion and suggests the handset wasn't properly tested before being released.
telemecko said:
Perhaps Psygnosis84 didn't follow my original post - I installed "those locking apps" because I kept accidently calling people when the HD was in my pocket.
Thanks, syqe, for the tip. What KickAssMoves suggested (the setting in HD Tweak) has worked fine so far, but I'll try PocketShield as well.
This is a critical design flaw in my opinion and suggests the handset wasn't properly tested before being released.
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I agreed with you, I also had the same problem before.. IMO, I think what KickAssMoves suggested is not so good compare to Pocketshield.
For me, HDtweak has a backlight problem when unlock it, light doesn't turn on until I press the power button. You also need to tab 2 times to unlock everytimes(not during the incoming call)
Pocketshield gives you free to unlock with light sensor, gesture(shaking) or move your finger..and many more to choose from.. which is much more convinient.
Why don't you just use the standard lock methods (aka pressing the power button or holding the end call button to lock the screen)? I use these methods and i have never had my hd randomly call anyone and when a call comes in the locks automatically disable for you to slide the answer/reject slider
pantyryder69's answer might as well be "well, this doesn't happen to me, why don't you try again?". Maybe I have fat fingers. Or weak ones. Or funny shapes in my pockets.
I tried Pocketshield but two things went against it. The trial's nag - a delay of 10 seconds - had me uninstalling it within a couple of hours. I can't test a piece of software with those sort of annoyances (it's the writers' perogative but their nag actually interfered with me trying to test if it had the funcationality I want). I found I had the same problem anyway, it locked my phone and I had to do a soft reset to get it back working (not sure what it was related to, possibly the nag screen).
I'm back to the HD Tweak solution of using the Windows Mobile screenlock. The screen dimming is annoying, but it does seem to work. I have to say, I'll be looking at an iPhone next time.
Hi telemecko, its known that at some point the "nag" screen caused some trouble, but in the latest builds that has been addressed:
(taken from http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm)
4/10/09: Builds 2.6.2.X:
•Voice mail icon display issue (Omnia)
•After calls from unkown contacts, caller avatar stayed visible.
•Lock screen issue during process of dialing (fixed).
•Light sensor at dark reading 1 lumen when playing musig caused unlock (Omnia).
•"Evaluation" message caused some issues (fixed).
telemecko said:
pantyryder69's answer might as well be "well, this doesn't happen to me, why don't you try again?". Maybe I have fat fingers. Or weak ones. Or funny shapes in my pockets.
I tried Pocketshield but two things went against it. The trial's nag - a delay of 10 seconds - had me uninstalling it within a couple of hours. I can't test a piece of software with those sort of annoyances (it's the writers' perogative but their nag actually interfered with me trying to test if it had the funcationality I want). I found I had the same problem anyway, it locked my phone and I had to do a soft reset to get it back working (not sure what it was related to, possibly the nag screen).
I'm back to the HD Tweak solution of using the Windows Mobile screenlock. The screen dimming is annoying, but it does seem to work. I have to say, I'll be looking at an iPhone next time.
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I'm facing similar problems with answering incoming calls. If it wasn't for the backlight problem, the tweak solution would be the best by far.
Did Pocketshield work fine for you ?
Not sure if anyone is following this now, anyway pocketchield works great. its made my life so much easier, no problem of random unlocking and ghost calls anymore!
Hi all
So i got my HTC HD2 nice feel to it....but..
2 things :
1:while i have handsfree on i answer a call as always and the phone unlockes in my pocket a.s.a i answer and then...well buttons keep pushing and calls keep shutting off e.t.c
i called HTC and they said nothing they can do and that there is a 3rd party app to fix this....well i am to "stupid" cause i cant find it..
plz help.
2:Very sensitive screen and i have dificulty figuring out hoe to change that..
thnx allot guys for "listening" hope to get some answers...esspecially for nr1 its a pain....
Hi,
I know you are new on here but a few threads up from yours you would have found this one...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Take time out to read it and you should find answers to at least some of your problems.
Good luck
WB
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
loomx said:
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
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Whilst the screen is capacitive, the material of a pocket may be thin enough to still allow a key press to register.
Also I believe the hard keys would still be available to press and could hang up the call.
I think there is an issue with the keypad becoming active while on a call.
I've used this phone since launch and it's driving me nuts.
One of the main problems is the proximity sensor which should turn off the touch screen during an active call intermittently doesn't work.
I called my wife today and cut her off at least twice because of this bug.
There is a reg tweek to reduce the sensitivity of the screen- you have to google it.
SMS is alos occasionally sticking.
I'm going to start a new thread to ask if 1.61 cure these issues.
I love my new HD2, except ... when turned off and in my pocket (or wife's handbag) it will nearly always turn itself on. I normally find out too late, after it has made calls or changed settings, etc.
I can't for the life of me understand how anyone would design a device that will turn itself on after a single, gentle, short key press on the power button.
Is there any way (config. setting, registry hack or 3rd party app) that this can be prevented, accepting that a more complex turn on procedure will result?
Hey Steve,
You could take a look at TouchLockPRO from ZuinigeRijder - I use it on my (company issue) Touch PRO which was prone to doing exactly what you're finding with your HD2.
I've got my HD2 cased, so it stays off until I tell it otherwise - there are quite a few HD2 owners who use TouchLockPro although it works differently on the HD2 than it does on the TP due to the lack of touch sensitive button area etc.
I can't remember if, on the HD2, you can disable all the hardware buttons except, say, the volume buttons which you would press in a sequence to unlock it/turn it on.....
Have a look at the thread - all of the documentation is on the developers' site if you some more detailed information - and see what you think. The thread is pretty active still, so if you post a "How do I", you'll likely get a response PDQ
Hope that helps,
Mark.
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Hey Steve,
You could take a look at TouchLockPRO from ZuinigeRijder - I use it on my (company issue) Touch PRO which was prone to doing exactly what you're finding with your HD2.
I've got my HD2 cased, so it stays off until I tell it otherwise - there are quite a few HD2 owners who use TouchLockPro although it works differently on the HD2 than it does on the TP due to the lack of touch sensitive button area etc.
I can't remember if, on the HD2, you can disable all the hardware buttons except, say, the volume buttons which you would press in a sequence to unlock it/turn it on.....
Have a look at the thread - all of the documentation is on the developers' site if you some more detailed information - and see what you think. The thread is pretty active still, so if you post a "How do I", you'll likely get a response PDQ
Hope that helps,
Mark.
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TouchLockPro is a strong, lite lock! I use it on my Touch Pro2.
Thanks for the prompt assistance, guys, and I have taken a first look at TouchLockPro. Sadly, I'm having issues, though - I have tried the AutoLockOnPowerOn setting but can't get it to work. Not only does it take a good 30 seconds to 1 minute for the BattClock icon to appear after my Spb Mobile Shell has initialised (which gives the phone more than enough time to do its dirty work after accidental switch on) but TouchLockPro doesn't perform the lock as expected - it remains unlocked.
I guess a 'lock after turn on' feature is about the best workaround there is, as the power button turn on probably can't be changed.
I have also now started trialling PocketShield, and its 'lock after turn on' feature does work. I'll continue trialling both products, but if you can suggest how I might make TouchLockPro do what I want I'd appreciate it.
Why not leave it on and lock the screen? That would stop it making calls, although it might not stop the back-light from lighting whenever a button is accidentally pressed.
Personally I keep my phone is a belt pouch. This stops any accidental button presses and, most importantly, protects my phone against damage.
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Why not leave it on and lock the screen? That would stop it making calls, although it might not stop the back-light from lighting whenever a button is accidentally pressed.
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Because there are many situations when I want it switched off, or am required to have it switched off.
cocospm said:
Because there are many situations when I want it switched off, or am required to have it switched off.
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Good answer
How about pouching or casing the phone?
fred_up said:
Good answer
How about pouching or casing the phone?
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OK, OK I guess I'll have to Can't fit a case in my pocket, so I'll work on softening up the leather pouch that came with the 'phone!
cocospm said:
OK, OK I guess I'll have to Can't fit a case in my pocket, so I'll work on softening up the leather pouch that came with the 'phone!
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I have a PDair pouch (belt-clip type) and there is definately no softening up required.
cocospm said:
I have also now started trialling PocketShield, and its 'lock after turn on' feature does work.
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I had similar issues especially after handsfree operation while driving...tried pocketshield...liked it and purchased it.
I am fully satisfied with it...