Hi,
I'm currently living in Europe (France) but I will be moving to California (San Francisco) in early December. I own a blackstone, which I bought here in France.
How should I expect it to work in San Francisco? From what I understood, I might not enjoy 3G+ ... Is that true?
Any informations welcome
it will not have 3G service. Only the Tesla model will work with 3G in the states. My touch HD works works vary well in San Fran but it is the ausy model
As stated there is no 3G service.
However, plenty of free WiFi areas.
Ok, thank you very much! I guess there IS a 3G service, but my phone isn't compatible, right? In that case I'll just sell my phone before moving ... Or is it possible that there is still no 3G service in SF??
mephisto3333 said:
Ok, thank you very much! I guess there IS a 3G service, but my phone isn't compatible, right? In that case I'll just sell my phone before moving ... Or is it possible that there is still no 3G service in SF??
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3G service in available in all major US cities; your phone needs to have the right US 3G bands. for at&t the 850/1900 band is used for 3G, for T-Mobile (i believe) it's 1700/2100.
what he said, so make sure the phone you buy next is North america 3G compatible (850-1900htz 3G). My Blackstone only has 850 htz 3G but I have never had a area where my ATT fuze was 3G and my Touch HD(ausy model) wasn't.
Okay, all clear now. Thanks a lot for all your help.
Cheers
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Hello everyone, im about to purchase a brand new HTC HD T8285 from Telstra, Australian carrier.
Im just worried about the 3G compability in my country (1900mhz), because they say it works with AT&T, but they operate under 850mhz and 2100mhz i thing... so i need to make myself sure if this model allows WCDMA under 1900mhz witch is the 3G band of my carrier in Chile.
Thanks in advance for any usefull information,
By the way i found this link that says at specs it does run under 1900mhz... but im not sure...
http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-pocket-t8285-unlocked-p-2387.html
at&t uses the 850 mhz and 1900mhz bands for 3G access. the Telstra version only supports 850mhz and 2100mhz bands. as far as i know, the Telstra HD and UK HD do not support the 1900mhz 3G band. by the way, the specs on that link are WRONG! it only works on at&t's 850 3G band.
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at&t uses the 850 mhz and 1900mhz bands for 3G access. the Telstra version only supports 850mhz and 2100mhz bands. as far as i know, the Telstra HD and UK HD do not support the 1900mhz 3G band. by the way, the specs on that link are WRONG! it only works on at&t's 850 3G band.
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just got ths answer from Telstra. i have seen someplaces that HTC misstyped this information in the user manual... i thing i must live without it...
Dear Rodrigo, Thank you for your email dated 26/4/09 regarding the HTC Touch HD model. We are happy to assist you. According to our records, it shows that the HTC Touch HD model has a network frequency band of 1900MHz. For further assistance regarding the HTC Touch HD model, please refer via http://www.htc.com/or you may call Customer Service Hotline at 125 111, Monday to Friday between 8:00AM to 7:00PM for clarification regarding this matter. Please do not hesitate to contact us via www.telstra.com if you require further information or assistance. Thank you for choosing Telstra. Yours sincerely,RuskyD315272Telstra Representative
rocho said:
just got ths answer from Telstra. i have seen someplaces that HTC misstyped this information in the user manual... i thing i must live without it...
Dear Rodrigo, Thank you for your email dated 26/4/09 regarding the HTC Touch HD model. We are happy to assist you. According to our records, it shows that the HTC Touch HD model has a network frequency band of 1900MHz. For further assistance regarding the HTC Touch HD model, please refer via http://www.htc.com/or you may call Customer Service Hotline at 125 111, Monday to Friday between 8:00AM to 7:00PM for clarification regarding this matter. Please do not hesitate to contact us via www.telstra.com if you require further information or assistance. Thank you for choosing Telstra. Yours sincerely,RuskyD315272Telstra Representative
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not sure what this email is confirming. the Telstra HD does include the 1900mhz EDGE band, which is slower than 3G. as you say in your post..if you bought the Telstra HD, you will have to live without 3G. life will not be too bad because you will at least have EDGE access. you should be happy tho... the HD is a good WM phone...
I just got my T8285
I get 3G and the H bar all the time in Brooklyn and Queens and Long Island I love it . When I had the T8282 there was nothing no 3G at all next time I will wait for the right bandwiith
rickytr23 said:
I get 3G and the H bar all the time in Brooklyn and Queens and Long Island I love it . When I had the T8282 there was nothing no 3G at all next time I will wait for the right bandwiith
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Which radio are you using? Stock? Or did you flash a new one? My HD is enroute and I am downloading everything I need so that my switchover from my Kaiser will be painless
Is this phone available in the US and if so, what network will it work on?
Thanks!
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No,
You can try to get HD model T8285 from telestra australia- say from e-bay which works on some of the US 3G bands. If you search this forum you will get tons of details on this
I use it on tmo usa, but of course it has no usa 3g at all. It is very snappy on edge tho and I'm having a very pleasent experience with it.
The Telestra HTC T8285 from Australia works wonderfully. I am very happy with it.
I have the Telestra HTC T8285 and it works great in my area. But it will only get 3G speeds on AT&T and then you have to be in a area supported by the 850 band. No 3G on Tmobile
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I use it on tmo usa, but of course it has no usa 3g at all. It is very snappy on edge tho and I'm having a very pleasent experience with it.
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is edge free?
Does the current HD2 that one can buy from various sources work on the ATT 3G network with a current ATT SIM card?
No, You will not get 3G. the current phones do not have the 850MHZ that ATT uses for 3G.
You have to wait till mid to end of this month when the phone is out with the 850MHZ.
Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
The phone will have 850MHZ.
I have been told it will should be out mid to end of this month in Australia.
I bought my HD from there and will be buying the HD2 as soon as it is out.
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Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
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From HTC australia. It'll come out for the Telstra's NextG network which runs on 850/2100. Since AT&T is overhauling their 1900mhz tower for the much faster 850mhz, the 850/2100 Telstra version is very ideal.
i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
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i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
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Ok let's clear some things up. The "US HD2" is the T-Mobile version. T-MOBILE. What does this mean? If you're with AT&T and bought the "US HD2"/TMobile version, you can talk but will be limited to EDGE for data...no 3G. The HD2 is a quadband phone so you can use it to talk all over the world. Notice that i bold only the word talk? You won't be able to get 3G outside of the US unless the country/carrier you're visiting has 1700/2100 UMTS/3G band (which most don't). So if you're visiting other countries, you can talk all you want, but will more than likely stuck with EDGE for data. Period.
So let's recap:
1) "US HD2" = T-Mobile USA version
2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
3) HD2 is a quadband phone for voice. You can talk on pretty much any country.
4) HD2 is a dualband phone for UMTS/3G/data. You will be stuck with EDGE unless you have the correct band.
5) Tmobile sucks
6) ?????
7) PROFIT!
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2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
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so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
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so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
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Not at the same time. To use a carrier's service (data or voice) you need a sim from that carrier. So to use at&t data you need an at&t sim; to use T-mo voice you need a T-mo sim. The HD2 is not a dual-sim phone, so you can only have one sim installed at a time, and therefore can only be using either at&t or T-mobile at any given time. You can swap sims if the phone is unlocked to use the other carrier's services. I have no idea if the Telstra HD2 will be unlocked or is unlockable...maybe someone who is using a Telstra HD in the USA can respond to that issue.
Hope this helps.
so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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Yep,
T-mobile use 1700MHz 3G frequency in the USA when most of 3G compatible devices (at&t) run on 850/1900MHz 3G/HSDPA freqencies
Hi,
I am a new user and I hope I am in the right place.
I just came back from Sydney Australia, and while I was there I bought teh HTC HD2 phone. WHen I got it it had all the Telstra crap on it and It was useless for me since I have t-mobile.
After I bought, I updated the ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
I had to use HSPL but I got it to work.
I just arrived to New York today and I could not wait to turn on the phone and see it in action. To my dispointment, I could not get 3G on it. The band and network are set to AUTO. The only thing I get is Edge.
I tried all manual bands and no luck
So then I tried to update the ROM to LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223\LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223
But it does not seem to work, no home screen just HTC and the windows start icon, phone and contacts appear on the bottom. Dont know whats wrong?? but perhaps some can shed some light.
Going back to ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe for now.
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
and what ROM is the best for this HTC HD2 phone and how can I get it?
Any tips would be awesome !
Thanks
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Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
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That phone will not work with US T-Mobile. Sell it on ebay and wait for the US T-Mo HD2.
T-Mobile uses the weird 1700/2100 UTMS bands in the US, and pretty much only phones made specifically for it will work.
Crap'po'la
I was afraid of that. so I can use it, just wont get 3G
So no ROMS would help right?
Is there A ROM that is better then what I have now? I have RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
Thanks
hey richsark ill take it off your hands
Hi, well... whats the offer? on a 3 day old phone??
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Hi, The phone I bought straight from the Telstra shop was unlocked. I did put my SIM in it and it registers as TMobile but no 3G. ( I did this in the States) Over there in Sydney with my Tmobile SIM it was 3G !
My guess is the bands are not compatible. I am stuck with Edge I guess... unless there is a way to make it work
Thanks
TMobile will have a roaming agreement with Telstra which means while in Australia you will have connected to the Telstra 3G network using the 850MHz frequency, but as a "visitor". Once back in the US the TMobile network uses 1700MHz which the Telstra version of the HD2 won't work with.
I travel a fair bit to the US and UK for work so prior to the HD2 I had a 850/1900/2100 UMTS phone which covered me for AT&T in the US. Now that AT&T are moving to use 850 more widely the lack of 1900 won't be a problem and 2100 is used widely in the UK and Europe.
Simple question, but hard to answer: will this US phone work in Asia with UTMS 2100, at 3G (HSPDA) speed?
I know an International HD2 going over on TMobile or AT&T roaming will only get EDGE.
I want to know a similar thing: Will the T-Mobile US HD2 work on Western European 2100MHz 3G band?
(I won't be using it in the US, so the fact that the international version doesn't work on US 3G is of no interest to me.)
A simple answer: it will because it supports band 1 and 4 3G.
Simple Answer: Yes
Thanks everyone who replied. I'm making a trip to LA in about 3 weeks time to grab one at a T-Mob shop. Hopefully the stocks will not be an issue by then...
I want to get a Nexus S for myself, the unlocked without contract one, because I would like to use it in my home country (Malaysia).
So I would like to confirm one thing before I proceed:
I saw this from BestBuy forum FAQs:
Will an unlocked Nexus S work with carriers other than T-Mobile?
Yes, but it won’t run on 3G with all carriers. Speed and power will be reduced on non-3G networks.
Is that means that even though Nexus S did support the 3G band of my home country, it won't run on the 3G network?! Means that I can't use the 3G in my home country?
Anyone have answer for this? Anyone tried buy N1 and got the 3G working in country outside US?
gotta be 1700/2100 MHz i believe
Wont' work. Malaysia uses 2100mhz band for 3G.
The Nexus S on T-Mobile uses BOTH 1700/2100mhz AT THE SAME TIME for 3G.
It will work fine since the 3G band in Malaysia is 2100MHz and the Nexus S supports those bands.
I had the Nexus One (T-Mobile Version) in Thailand and it worked perfectly fine on 2100MHz 3G. My N900 worked as well.
Don't listen to nxt or slowz3r they have no idea of what they are talking about.
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Anyone have answer for this? Anyone tried buy N1 and got the 3G working in country outside US?
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You wont have a problem with most 3g phones in Malaysia - most of the rest of the world uses standard frequencies and the nexus s and nexus 1 work just fine.
If a phone works in Europe then it'll be fine in malaysia, and indeed most of the rest of the world.
Most of the noise on here is from people in the US where there are some weird frequencies being used... you can only use 3g on T-Mobile there -at+t uses different frequencies, and sprint and Verizon use a completely different technology.
Thank you for all the useful replies!
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