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Is Topaz is available for sale for US UMTS bands? In all the online shops i see this phone only with UMTS 900 and 2100. I am planning to buy one but i dont see one with UMTS 850 and 1900.
I'm still waiting for 850mhz. It clearly isn't out yet.
3G for AT&T US?
Does anyone have any info on whether and if yes, when, the Topaz will be offered with the US 3G bands??
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
HTC Touch Freak said:
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
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If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
mush10 said:
If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
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If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
HTC Touch Freak said:
If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
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That is great!! If you can check and let us know that would be a great help!!
Is UMTS band availability is all software/firmware related.. i thought thats hardware.
having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
cortez.i said:
having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
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This clarifies. Thanks friend. Do you aware of any news on when HTC might release the D2 for US?
verified today.... does not work on at&t. the guys at the store said that it is 1900/900 band not 850. 850od the 2g frequency. havnt checked on how correct they are on this but a quick google search will verify the frequencies.
A reply from HTC
See the reply from them below. HTC did not mention about any carrier like ATT or T-Mobile asked for this phone.. looks like this phone will never make it to US? That is a Bad news......
From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:54 AM
To: Natarajan, Sundaram
Subject: Re: HTC Diamond 2 <<#15569-73859#>>
Hello Sundaram,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch Diamond 2.
We appreciate your inquiry about one of our new phones. Unfortunately, we do not remake our phones to work on a specific network, such as the AT&T 1900 band width, unless that carrier request us to make them that exact phone. If you do buy the Touch Diamond 2, we cannot guarantee 3G service since AT&T 3G band is 1900 while the Touch Diamond 2's 3G band is 2100.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
Thanks for contacting HTC,
HTC Technical Support
http://www.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
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From: "Natarajan, Sundaram"
Received: 5/5/09 11:17:17 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: HTC Diamond2
Dear Sir/Madam,
I own a HTC TyTn II and HTC Fuze (ATT) and now planning to upgrade my smart phone to HTC Diamond 2. I am really impressed with this phone and ready to purchase one. I live in USA and have a question about the 3G band availability of HTC Diamond 2. The phone is available in many online stores but they all have a specification like below.
Operating Frequency:
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Does this mean that I cannot use this phone for ATT 3G networks in USA? Does HTC manufacture HTC Diamond 2 for US 3G band which I believe are 850/1900 MHz?
Is there any planned date of releasing HTC Diamond2 for ATT 3G networks? I appreciate your response.
Thanks
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
MAK11 said:
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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What makes you to visit this topic and through a comment like this? I was not asking "you" this.
Besides, I am not working at ATT or HTC but trying to see if any other member of this forum has any news about this. If you dont like this topic just dont visit it and try to change your attitude. Otherwise you will become a great looser (i guess you already are).
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The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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Clearly that is a pretty general statement that I believe most of us find to be true. That being said, do you have any more insight?
If it's coming to the US with 3G I would just assume that it would hit Sprint first so still no luck for AT&T. Didn't ATT just get the FUZE in like Dec? Anyways the phone most likely to hit US carriers is The Pro2. Americans generaly (IMO) like a full Hard qwerty keyboard.
This was floating around a few months ago
http://www.wmexperts.com/htcs-entire-2009-lineup-leaked
Shows the topaz going to AT&T. I'm not sure how valid it is though, but it's something to cling to
Even if it does come to AT&T, I hope we see the unlocked version well before. HTC used to be the one company we could count on to deliver US 3G on newer releases. Now we seem to be stuck playing the waiting game. The odd thing is they released the TYTN and such when the 3G network was barely rolled out, now that it at least covers all major cities, we cannot get any love.
I have been waiting a long time for this
Word is "HTC Topaz 210" (AT&T warhawk) will be released next month /(october) with the 850mHz UMTS "7201" chip (instead of the "7200" 900/2100 UMTS chip)
It will also be slightly smaller (1 mm less longer and wider)
I may drop around here if HTC beats the drum with this one
PS: sorry for resurrecting an ole thread, but we american users really miss good HTC 850mHz phones
I too am waiting for the US version of D2. gtrab, where did yo uget the info that US D2 will be slightly smaller. The latest info was from BG but I don't remember him mentioning any other spec except the obvious 850/1900 implementation.
not quite sure how to search this so i guess ill ask (or reask) the question.
1. am i able to reflash my Leo to work with USA ATT 3g bands if a rom ever comes out in the future?
2. can someone confirm to me if step #49 of this tips and tricks thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638) and that piece of 3G activation software works and can allow my Leo to work with ATT 3g? (i dont think it does)
thanks!
1. Nope. It's all hardware.
2. See above. Nope.
It's all edge, my friend!
b-16707 said:
not quite sure how to search this so i guess ill ask (or reask) the question.
1. am i able to reflash my Leo to work with USA ATT 3g bands if a rom ever comes out in the future?
2. can someone confirm to me if step #49 of this tips and tricks thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638) and that piece of 3G activation software works and can allow my Leo to work with ATT 3g? (i dont think it does)
thanks!
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The HTC HD2 will not use 3g in the US. But since the phone is so fast, browsing the internet using edge is faster then with 3G on a sony X1a (my last phone).
do you already have an HD2? Regardless of anything you've read thus far, 3G is hardware dependent. No USA 3G internal radio? No USA 3G.
If you don't already have one, just wait until next month because the HD2 is supposedly coming to Telstra (who operates on 850mhz 3G, just like AT&T). HTC have said that the HD2 is coming in Q1 2010 but it's more than likely going toward T-Mo (based on leaked pics) or other carriers other than AT&T.
ah well i was under the impression that the hardware was both same for euro and us releases and just the software controlling it was different...(and how come they didnt name it the T8582 vs the T8585 as with the HD1 standard for the 2 different radios?....how they gonna distinguish the different hardware HD2s?)
come next year i may just sell mine for the new one (testra one you said). i dont suppose that tmo one will work with att 3g as its on a worldwide 3g band huh.
truly is a nice phone no doubt still
T-Mo US operates on 1700mhz AND 2100mhz for 3G (someone correct me if im wrong...one for uplink and the other for downlink). ATT can operate on 850mhz OR 1900mhz. The European version only has 900mhz and 2100mhz. As you can see, if you use the HD2 in the US (t-mo or ATT) right now, you're restricted to only EDGE unless they both possess their respective 3G bands.
this is what someone on htcforums.com said to me...confirm? deny? reject? love? i guess im just receiving conflicting info as to why this guy would believe this then?
"What you are asking about is a software differentiation. According to PDADB.net, the HD2 US version is scheduled for March 2010. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2 ... us_htc_leo
The GSM version currently available is capable of T-Mobile US 3G frequencies; as T-Mo is the only US company to use WorldWide frequencies {2100MHz}. The version that is scheduled for March will be for AT&T frequencies. Since the hardware on these two versions are identical, you could flash a WorldWide version with a US version radio, & use a WW version with AT&T."
Your link doesnt work. I don't want to beat on a dead horse, but countless of T-Mo USA users have the HD2 and they could only have access to EDGE. Like I said, for T-Mo USA, their 3G has a split frequency (one for upload the other for download) that's why you need both 1700mhz and 2100mhz.
thats the link
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&view=1&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
bah oh well. the dude seems adamant that it will work...
ah here we go, this was the comparison i was looking for
USA
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&view=1&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
other
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1783&view=1&c=htc_hd2_t8585_htc_leo_100
this on HTC's site
Europe: Network Bands
* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz <------
Asia Pacific:
* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz <------
which means it can work here no? since USA att 3G is 850 or 1900?
* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz <--3G
* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz <-- EDGE
Your problem is that you're looking at the voice/2G/EDGE bands. The HD2 is a quadband phone, so you can pretty much use it anywhere in the world. Your original question was regarding 3G, which the HD2 does not support here in the USA (yet).
3G would be this line HSPA/WCDMA. See how it's only support 900/2100mhz?
GSM is only voice correct? .... getting my voice/data abbreviations all mixed up...
b-16707 said:
GSM is only voice correct? .... getting my voice/data abbreviations all mixed up...
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GSM is voice and EDGE (data)
For ATT the key is 850mhz 3G as that what ATT has been adding, I don't believe they are doing any new 1900 towers. You can bing it there are lot's of articles about the iPhone congestion and changing/adding 850 towers. If we are lucky Telstra an, Australian carrier, will pick up the phone soon because they use the same 850 just like ATT. This is how people got the 3G on the HD(1) to work on ATT in the united states. HTCPedia posted a Telstra HD2 rom on Dec 9th, so hopefully they are close to releasing.
Does the current HD2 that one can buy from various sources work on the ATT 3G network with a current ATT SIM card?
No, You will not get 3G. the current phones do not have the 850MHZ that ATT uses for 3G.
You have to wait till mid to end of this month when the phone is out with the 850MHZ.
Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
The phone will have 850MHZ.
I have been told it will should be out mid to end of this month in Australia.
I bought my HD from there and will be buying the HD2 as soon as it is out.
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Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
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From HTC australia. It'll come out for the Telstra's NextG network which runs on 850/2100. Since AT&T is overhauling their 1900mhz tower for the much faster 850mhz, the 850/2100 Telstra version is very ideal.
i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
thedeathblow said:
i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
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Ok let's clear some things up. The "US HD2" is the T-Mobile version. T-MOBILE. What does this mean? If you're with AT&T and bought the "US HD2"/TMobile version, you can talk but will be limited to EDGE for data...no 3G. The HD2 is a quadband phone so you can use it to talk all over the world. Notice that i bold only the word talk? You won't be able to get 3G outside of the US unless the country/carrier you're visiting has 1700/2100 UMTS/3G band (which most don't). So if you're visiting other countries, you can talk all you want, but will more than likely stuck with EDGE for data. Period.
So let's recap:
1) "US HD2" = T-Mobile USA version
2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
3) HD2 is a quadband phone for voice. You can talk on pretty much any country.
4) HD2 is a dualband phone for UMTS/3G/data. You will be stuck with EDGE unless you have the correct band.
5) Tmobile sucks
6) ?????
7) PROFIT!
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2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
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so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
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so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
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Not at the same time. To use a carrier's service (data or voice) you need a sim from that carrier. So to use at&t data you need an at&t sim; to use T-mo voice you need a T-mo sim. The HD2 is not a dual-sim phone, so you can only have one sim installed at a time, and therefore can only be using either at&t or T-mobile at any given time. You can swap sims if the phone is unlocked to use the other carrier's services. I have no idea if the Telstra HD2 will be unlocked or is unlockable...maybe someone who is using a Telstra HD in the USA can respond to that issue.
Hope this helps.
so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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Yep,
T-mobile use 1700MHz 3G frequency in the USA when most of 3G compatible devices (at&t) run on 850/1900MHz 3G/HSDPA freqencies
Hi,
I am a new user and I hope I am in the right place.
I just came back from Sydney Australia, and while I was there I bought teh HTC HD2 phone. WHen I got it it had all the Telstra crap on it and It was useless for me since I have t-mobile.
After I bought, I updated the ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
I had to use HSPL but I got it to work.
I just arrived to New York today and I could not wait to turn on the phone and see it in action. To my dispointment, I could not get 3G on it. The band and network are set to AUTO. The only thing I get is Edge.
I tried all manual bands and no luck
So then I tried to update the ROM to LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223\LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223
But it does not seem to work, no home screen just HTC and the windows start icon, phone and contacts appear on the bottom. Dont know whats wrong?? but perhaps some can shed some light.
Going back to ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe for now.
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
and what ROM is the best for this HTC HD2 phone and how can I get it?
Any tips would be awesome !
Thanks
richsark said:
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
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That phone will not work with US T-Mobile. Sell it on ebay and wait for the US T-Mo HD2.
T-Mobile uses the weird 1700/2100 UTMS bands in the US, and pretty much only phones made specifically for it will work.
Crap'po'la
I was afraid of that. so I can use it, just wont get 3G
So no ROMS would help right?
Is there A ROM that is better then what I have now? I have RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
Thanks
hey richsark ill take it off your hands
Hi, well... whats the offer? on a 3 day old phone??
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Hi, The phone I bought straight from the Telstra shop was unlocked. I did put my SIM in it and it registers as TMobile but no 3G. ( I did this in the States) Over there in Sydney with my Tmobile SIM it was 3G !
My guess is the bands are not compatible. I am stuck with Edge I guess... unless there is a way to make it work
Thanks
TMobile will have a roaming agreement with Telstra which means while in Australia you will have connected to the Telstra 3G network using the 850MHz frequency, but as a "visitor". Once back in the US the TMobile network uses 1700MHz which the Telstra version of the HD2 won't work with.
I travel a fair bit to the US and UK for work so prior to the HD2 I had a 850/1900/2100 UMTS phone which covered me for AT&T in the US. Now that AT&T are moving to use 850 more widely the lack of 1900 won't be a problem and 2100 is used widely in the UK and Europe.
I'll be moving back stateside this August and I'd love to use my sim free Legend on a gsm provider back home.
T-mobile US 3G bands are (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
The Legend is specified for use at: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
Can anyone clarify if I'll be able to get 3G on a T-mobile US sim?
Or even knowing the bands are similar does the fact that T-mobile uses AWS and not HSPA/WCDMA mean I wont get 3g?
Any type of clarification would be helpful
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I'll be moving back stateside this August and I'd love to use my sim free Legend on a gsm provider back home.
T-mobile US 3G bands are (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
The Legend is specified for use at: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
Can anyone clarify if I'll be able to get 3G on a T-mobile US sim?
Or even knowing the bands are similar does the fact that T-mobile uses AWS and not HSPA/WCDMA mean I wont get 3g?
Any type of clarification would be helpful
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Hey man, you might have figured this out already but, as far as I can tell, you can't use the T-mobile US 3G bands on the legend. I got my legend over the interwebs and put my t-mobile SIM in there, and although there's 2g data, no 3G. I don't really mind though, it's an awesome phone and it gets plenty of second glances since there's nothing like it here in the states. I'm also around wi-fi most of the time i need it, but it would be awesome to get that 3G working.
I've looked around a little but can't find anything. Does anyone know if this is even physically possible? And if so, how? Thanks.
Hi all,
I'm planning on going to Europe, specifically Amsterdam and Sweden, next year. Will my HD2 work in Europe? With data? (I realize I will have to buy a plan with an operator over there)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Yes it will work with any GSM provider worldwide, so long as you SIM unlock it. Todo so, either call T-Mobile if you are a customer, or go online and find a site that SIM does SIM unlocks, such as http://www.htcunlock.com and pay them to do it(around 15USD). And as far as data is concerned, you will get EDGE and GPRS only in Europe with the TMO US HD2 as the 3G bands are different.
Ah good My phone is already unlocked so I'm straight on that front. Going without 3G is no problem, I'm glad it'll work with EDGE.
thanks for the reply!
Correction: the TMOUS HD2 will work on 3G in Europe.
HTC clearly says 1700/2100. 2100 is Band I for Europe. 1700 is Band IV for T-Mobile.