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Make your XDA I/II turn itself off after new SMS faster,etc.

So, after diggin' for long time in registry on Pocket PC 2002 ROMs I've found nice feature - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\
(may vary cause this is from 2003 ROM, for now I have but was like this and works on 2002), has value WakeUpPowerOff = 180 (by default).
This value (in seconds) determines, how long device will be on after:
1. power on by "power" button (and no other activity - no taps, no any hardware buttons pressing) - it userful for example to see "what's on
today", time, etc...
2. power on by incoming event like SMS or calendar one.
And after you touch screen\ other button - then as I found starts another, "original" timer, defined in Start->Settings->System->Power.
I've set above WakeUp parameter to WakeUpPowerOff = 12 (smallest that works really at mine device) and what I got? This:
When I need to look into today's or time or missed calls etc - I just press power look at screen and devices turns iself off byself. Not great effort but - heh - longer live for power button
But this is more important: When incomes SMS (I have gate from internet inbox to sms so have a lot of smses) - devices comes on only for 12 secs - for day it increases significantly battery life. (aha - 180sec and 12sec - differs!) (etc...). So we can set auto Off timer for 1 minute and work in normal mode (when we tap or read something, smaller is not so much siutable), but with this WakeUp timer also when we don't use device we get very small time to byself on\off-ing and longer battery life.
But after appearing 2003 in my wallaby and then after bying himalaya I have changed this parameter with no effect.
Now I find solution!
We need to change one more parameter in that registry subdirectory named:
DisableGwesPowerOff=1 by defalut. Simpy set it to 0.
And now on my XDA II (and on XDA I with 2003) this hacks works.
I think this will be userful for our XDA community. Thanks for paying attention for this text.

Hey, that is a very, very cool hack! I have always been annoyed when my XDA2 is in my pocket and I receive an SMS when I can't reply. During the 2 minutes before it switches itself off I find that the screen gets pressed a lot in my pocket with sometimes disastrous results.
This hack seems to have no side-effects at all. The XDA2 stays switched on in the cradle and changing the Power-off-on-battery setting doesn't reset this auto-off timer.
I dare to suggest even that it is perfect! Thank you very much nugged.

Thank you realy love this one :idea:
Works fine with 5sec off on XDAII.
goodluck

2 SiliconS: That's some kind of pleasure to share with info and to help.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Anyway - it's works.

I've just had a thought: does this hack affect the alarms and appointment notifications? Does the machine turn itself off after 12 seconds and stop the alarm working? That might be a problem for some people if so. I can't test at the moment - my wife is asleep
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Just tested, quietly . It does affect the alarm. I set a repeating alarm. The machine turned on, sounded the alarm once and then switched off. When I turned it on again a few seconds later it sounded a repeat.
I think this hack is excellent if you don't use your XDA2 for alarms or notifications. Otherwise it might cause problems. :?

@nugged:
every PocketPC turns itself automatically on at midnight, to perform some magic regarding alarms etc. It is a known problem that sometimes it turns off too soon again, before having finished its work. There are even programs to make this time-out longer. Question: does you hack also affect this time-out, or is it something completely unrelated?
Cheers
Daniel

2 tadzio: Mine never do this. What "reorganization"? Mine works fine, don't miss any appointments and haven't midnight magic power-ons ...
2 SiliconS: Yes, so that's maybe who need to have long alarms install additional soft and\or set up time longer, smth like 15 seconds.
As for me - yes, I use mine device lot of time so it often in mine hands and at my eyes so I don't need long alarms.
Lets explore info above (at 1st post) here more deeply maybe someone find solution for short WakeUpPowerOff time and working long alarms if needed.

Put down the pipe!!
What are you guys on, hacking the on time? I must be really confused... what about just using the power settings to turn of backlight after 10 seconds and power off if not used for 1 minute?
That's all I ever do and mine lasts easily through a weekend with a few hours of talk time and checking my e-mail at least 20 times.

2 wayandrs: That's your decision If you satisfied with that standard system - good . Anyway - it's not an order - it's just advice
Look - when you setup to run your backlight off after 10 seconds - try to work normally then .

nugged said:
2 tadzio: Mine never do this.
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Yes, it does. You just don't see it because it's only a partial power-up: the display does not get switched on.
The OS needs to clean up appointments, and set alarms for the new day. Most of the time it succeeds, but sometimes the device powers off automatically before the OS could finish, resulting in alarms not going off. This is what tools like "Wakeup Tweak" are for - they just extend the time-out until the device powers down again.
Also, zendrui (the PocketZenPhone author) had a lot of... umm... fun with this feature when users configured PocketZenPhone to automatically switch modes at midnight. Ask him, I think he knows a lot more about this than he ever wanted to know.
Cheers
Daniel

I miss the old 2003 future and wish SMS dose not turn IMATE-II on..
hope some body listen there and give a soltion. it was built in before some bodies complain about it.

2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Yes, no password protection.
Btw I managed to connect over BT to Linux machine and have acces to local net and web. That 's nothing ok. But managed also to use device cca
100m+ away form my BT acces point. Just put USB dongle on extended
cable and if possible outside of your room. My is on the attic.
Think, PC makes som interference to BT rx for sure. If anybody interesting
on this can write som more..
goodluck

2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
2 tadzio: so, device turning itself on withot turning on display? Sounds very interesting. Anyway - we can say so our devices stays on every time even turned off by the key, they only slowing down processor and turning off display and some hardware, cause they need to refresh SDRAM memory, to track and remember appointments to wake up at needed time, etc.
And, anyway, if this 'midnight ONs' are have place, if they are not turning on display - ppc works in another mode and I think this registry value is not related to them. But this - for me - is very strange information.
Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.

nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
I do not have any appointments stored in my device.
Cant wait for Linux to run on it with graphical enviromet.
Than we can all forget this misterious M$ hacks.
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eme said:
nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that I have any problems. In fact, before I apply this hack I wanted to make sure that it will likely not cause any problems, that's why I asked if the author knows about any possible interaction between the midnight wakeup and his hack. I would suspect there is none, but I am not sure.
Cheers
Daniel
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nugged said:
Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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Here is more information about this: http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page826.html
Cheers
Daniel

problem need help
Alrite i tried with a 12. It works well. As expected, but things happen when my phone rings, with a long rintone i have, it got cut off and then it went back to standby mode, making the call still ringing behind the background, after a while it was turn on again. It annoying when i cannot hear the first part of the ring. I end up not picking up importants calls... Anyway to help this desperado? ow i want to change back but its like the same...

Batery??

My mogul has to be recharged half way through the day? Im on it an average/alot but dont surf the net alot and I have installed teh x button so nothing is constantly running (or at least i think it isnt)
could i just hvae a faulty batery or is something goin on that is draining it?

The only things I can think of that are draining the battery are bluetooth being on, wifi being on, and possibly if you have it set up to check your mail very frequently. With wifi and bluetooth on even if you aren't actively using them they drain power cause they are constantly looking for signals. Other than that it should be lasting longer.

How do I change how often it checks my email?

are there any power saving tips? my blue tooh was on and turned it off and it still is draining.

Tregrad said:
are there any power saving tips? my blue tooh was on and turned it off and it still is draining.
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To save power on the Mogul:
1) Turn off the data connection after using it using the comm manager. (Two arrows on top of the screen above the signal strength indicator.)
2) Turn off the bluetooth radio after you are done using it.
3) Turn off the Wi-fi when not using it.
4) Make sure all of your mail accounts are set to manual instead of automatically checking for mail every so often. This will keep your device from opening data connections.
5) Turn down the backlight when the unit is on battery power. I have mine set to the third lowest setting.
6) Set your auto shutdown time to 30s when on battery.
7) Press (don't hold) the power button when you are done using the device.
When I use the device in this way, I can almost get two days of regular use out of my device.
Hope this helps!

Do this!
Tregrad said:
are there any power saving tips? my blue tooh was on and turned it off and it still is draining.
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I'll second the above poster's suggestion of changing your schedule for checking outlook. To do this, go into ActiveSync on the phone, go to the 'Schedule' option and change from 'as they arrive' to 'every 5 minutes' or longer. This will help a lot
Here's another thing you can try. It had HUGE results on mine. You will need to edit the registry. I will suggest getting Total Commander (this is a great file explorer as well as a registry editor, and a text editor. Basically, these keys disable the mogul's ability to manage the power management functions it has built in. changing them to a value of zero will allow it to manage power more effectively.
Before doing this step, I would be typically close to a drained battery by the end of the night, after doing this, I'm still around 60-70%
To get to the registry in Total Commander, go to the topmost level of folders. You'll see an entry with two slashes that looks like this - '\\' Click on this and you'll have three options, FTP, LAN, and Registry. Click Registry.
Go into these places, and change the following keys:
HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0 (zero)
HKLM\Comm\Irsir1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0
HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0
HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0

thanks for both your replies, havent tried it yet but will. is there a "push email" program for the mogul that you guys know of that will allow emails to come through like that so there is no setting for the mail to be checked every so often? it will just come in when its there.

Tregrad said:
thanks for both your replies, havent tried it yet but will. is there a "push email" program for the mogul that you guys know of that will allow emails to come through like that so there is no setting for the mail to be checked every so often? it will just come in when its there.
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well, are you connecting through an exchange server, such as a work email account, or are you trying to sync with something like yahoo,gmail, etc?
if you have outlook at work, then you can set it up with activesync to push it out to you. this can be done on your phone's activesync program menu. then you can go into the schedule option and adjust how often it syncs with the service. many people set it up to 'as they arrive' which maintains a constant data connection, and thus drains more battery. thats why 'every 5 minutes' saves you alot of battery drain. make sense?

Yeah that makes sence. I used to have a black berry and the mails just popped in without having to maintain a constant connection (as far as I know)

Push Email and Touch HD

Hello
Im in a dilemma right now. I absolutely love my touch hd so far but am at a crossroads. I need reliable push mail from my gmail account to my mobile... but so far reliability doesnt seem possible. Would appreciate any sort of guidance.
Im trying to have my gmail send all my mail to my thd device as quickly as possible. I cant afford to wait for it to arrive with a lag of say 10 minutes. It has to be as instantaneous as possible.
The problem with THD i find is that when the display is turned off, the data connection is also turned off. So the next sync only occurs when i turn on the display. When display is turned off... no emails. Ive tried tweakHD in an attempt to keep data connections always turned on, but no luck. Im not sure i set it right though.
Can reliable push mail be achieved on my thd? Should i move over to a blackberry device? (considering blackberry storm) Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
ian

Iangohye, the answer is yes...I had this issue for a long time before solved. The long and short of it is, at least for me, it was a power management problem. I needed my exchange mail, but as soon as I put the phone in standby, it would disconnect the data connection, and would not reconnect until I turned the screen back on. What would happen is, while in standby, my data connection would connect and then something would cause it to immediately disconnect. Some power saving feature. Try this first:
1) Go to programs->phone->menu->options. At the bottom of the screen you will see tabs. Tick the "data" tab and see if the box "disable data connections when device enters sleep mode" is checked. This was unchecked for me so clearly not the issue. Some people, for whatever reason, do not have this option. If you do, and it is not checked then see the next step below, if it is checked, uncheck it and see if that solves it for you.
2) To check whether there is a power saving feature within your power management causing the disconnect in standby go to settings->personal->sounds and notifications. Set a sound for data connection established and data connection disconnect. Set your mail to sync in an interval such as 5 minutes. Put your phone in stadnby (screen off). Once the screen is off, you should hear the data disconnect sound. After five minutes you should hear the data connection established sound and then immediately hear the data disconnect sound. If this is the case.....
3) Install Schaps Advaced Config. Tap his "Power Management" option. In the drop down options, disable all of the power management options and set "AC resuming from suspend" and battery resuming from suspend to 60. Soft reset. Establish a data connections, and put the phone in standby. If your data connection stays on, go through each of the power management options in adavanced config and enable or disable each until you find which one is responsible for leaving your data connection active. The reality is, there are only a couple of options there that cause it, but for the sake of confusion, I would go through them all. Also, for your purposes, I'm not sure whether setting AC and Battery resuming from suspend to 60 is necessary, but I do it anyway.
This is what solved it for me and I hope the same for you.

Hi Sean3
thanks for the help, ive done everything you told me to and it seems like its working as i hoped it would so far.
lol saved me the trouble of switching phones

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=15
Blackberry works great.

terminate data connection on device sleep?

Is there any way to kill data connection when the device goes to sleep or you hit the sleep button?
Too much of a battery hit?
Any advice appreciated!
Thanks,
wab

Anyone? It would really make my day! Cheers.

Me too! So need auto disconnect.

+1 here, big battery drain

data battery drain
This was not an issue for me on my HD, while a lot of people felt it was an issue for them.
Battery drain was not noticably more with data on to data off.
I did use an email scheduler on my HD, as I had MSVC set to announce new msgs and didn't want to be woken at night.
Google Gudensoft email scheduler.
No guarantee it will work on the HD2.

I think phonealarm has this functionality
http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html
Cheers David

Thanks davwil. Although I was hoping for a free solution. Don't want to have to pay 18.50 for this basic function..
Any other experienced winmo users care to help?
Thanks!

surely theres a reg entry to enable this... need 2 know!

Hello,
replace on registry at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
SuspendResume = GPRS_bye_if_device_off
CacheTime = xxx (where xxx are seconds before auto disconnect)
Try at first CacheTime = 10 so you can test the "function".
I'm using this, that DON'T suspend at sleep, but disable data after usage.

Hey Guys,
I just tried the reg tweak, it works perfectly whilst the phone is on... however, as soon as there is an event that triggers the connection when the phone is in sleep mode it just stays connected. In my case, if the phone syncs with my hotmail account when i am using the device it disconnects perfectly .. not so much when it was sleeping!
Can u think of any other way to solve this??
I've been trying some other tweaks and cabs .. nodatainroaming.cab and the cristoff diamond tweak utility .. but they all have the same problem ..
if anyone knows a way around this .. please let me know.

I've googled around with no solution, till now, for this "issue".

I've been experiencing this issue too. The reg edit works fine when the phone is being used but when locked etc the data connection stays alive.

Data Connection stays on

So, I find that when I use a browser or any other data connection software, the data connection stays on after exiting the browser or other data use software. This tends to run my battery down extra fast if I forget to go into the Comm Manager and turn off the data connection manually. Or I'm in a situation where I can't take the extra time.
Question 1: what are other people doing about this?
Question 2: Is there a something like the WiFi switch programs (I'm using AKToggleWiFi) which make turning the data connection on or off something that can be done with a button or shortcut on the today screen?
On Question 2, the main thing I don't like about the Comm Manager are the number of steps involved, and when I turn on the Comm Manager, it takes a few seconds for it to realize that the data connection is on, before I can turn it off.
Thanks in advance
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FB

frankenbike said:
So, I find that when I use a browser or any other data connection software, the data connection stays on after exiting the browser or other data use software. This tends to run my battery down extra fast if I forget to go into the Comm Manager and turn off the data connection manually. Or I'm in a situation where I can't take the extra time.
Question 1: what are other people doing about this?
Question 2: Is there a something like the WiFi switch programs (I'm using AKToggleWiFi) which make turning the data connection on or off something that can be done with a button or shortcut on the today screen?
On Question 2, the main thing I don't like about the Comm Manager are the number of steps involved, and when I turn on the Comm Manager, it takes a few seconds for it to realize that the data connection is on, before I can turn it off.
Thanks in advance
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FB
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Try this:
To disconnect network when idle for 1 min
HKLM\Comm\CommMgr\Planner\Settings\
Delete the following key: "SuspendResume"
add "CacheTime" value of 60
This should disable the connection if its idle for 1 min
hope i helped!!!!

Thank you! That works!. I set it for 30 seconds (BTW, had to use DWord, not string). I didn't delete the old Key, just set it to zero. I may need it for times when I'm doing a chat or something that I can't have it log off during...experimentation to follow.
Why doesn't it come with an option to turn off the data connection instead of burning through the battery after a certain wait period?

frankenbike said:
Thank you! That works!. I set it for 30 seconds (BTW, had to use DWord, not string). I didn't delete the old Key, just set it to zero. I may need it for times when I'm doing a chat or something that I can't have it log off during...experimentation to follow.
Why doesn't it come with an option to turn off the data connection instead of burning through the battery after a certain wait period?
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To be honest I gave up on trying to understand Microsoft's reasoning, there is a number of performance issues that could be resolved easily that they choose not to fix.. They are special like that .. I thought about trying just disabling registry instead of deleting it, Glad that worked for you.

The difference in power use is profound. I think data connection wasn't just happening when I used it, but would go on by itself and stay that way. This is the first time I've seen this much power left in the battery after a whole day. It's still reading 100%, even though I've used the phone a couple of times. In 5 months, that has never happened.
I wish my wife's LG Touch was as open to problem solving as my WinMo phone. I'm pretty sure her phone has a similar problem draining down the battery.

new imagio issues...
Hello,
I am very glad to be returning to a winmo phone, after having been forced to use blackberry for a while. I have used many windows phones in the past, so am sort of familiar with rom flashing and registry edits.
Just got an HTC imagio, and am using it with corporate exchange server, connected through VPN. I have a couple issues that I am hoping someone can help with. When my VPN is enabled, I go through the entire battery in less than 6 hours. When it is disabled, battery lasts for about 2 days. Any ideas about how to make the battery last longer w/ VPN enabled? Would the approach described about disconnecting network when idle help with this?
In any case, I would like to try. Would someone mind please directing me to a registry editor that works on imagio? thanks, and I'd very much appreciate any other ideas!
EDIT:
OMFG...this works PERFECTLY!!! MY BATTERY IS LASTING WAY WAY LONGER, AND I'M STAYING CONNECTED TO VPN!!!
sorry for yelling...I am just so freakin' happy. This forum is great!