Updating Radio ROM - worth it? - Touch Diamond2, Pure General

I've still got the ROM the TD2 shipped with. Do the newer Radio ROMs actually improve 3G reception? Or do they just "tidy things up" (improve stability, make the signal indicator reading higher etc).
I'm trying to improve reception, specifically audio streaming, in weak signal areas, and wondered if sensitivity, seamless cell to cell handover etc have been improved. I can't find the definitive answer in the ROM development section.

I have not noticed much difference with 3g using different radio, but using the latest radio does give me much improved GPS reception and a slight increase in battery performance (5%)

Thanks, I suspected that might be the case.
Good that the GPS has improved. Actually I don't have a problem with GPS sensitivity, it's pretty good. But Google Maps still doesn't always want to start it, I have to use another program first. Strange!

i'm still using the original rom and radio. It works perfect so i don't need any other roms and radios. BUT i'm waiting for the official 6.5

I can answer my question now. Finally took the plunge, did Hard-SPL and installed Topaz_Radio_4.47.25.21.
It's definitely better than the stock radio as far as 3G reception is concerned. The improvements are:
a) better performance in weak signal areas. This doesn't show in the number of signal bars, which stays the same. But, you now get data even with no bars showing, and the speed is better all round too.
b) Cell changeover is much quicker. When signal is too low, it shows "no signal" straight away and reacquires it equally quickly. Before, it could take 20-30 seconds sometimes.
So, anyone streaming internet radio or downloading large files whilst on the move will get far better results. I was able to continuously listen to radio going through areas I couldn't even get a data link before.
If you're just web browsing, it'll be a quicker experience in weak signal areas. Highly recommended.
I didn't notice as much improvement to the GPS as other people's experiences suggested. It acquires satellites from a "cold start" a bit quicker, but still takes much longer than the proper stand-alone GPS units do. Still, at least it doesn't "hang" for several minutes as it sometimes did before when it hadn't been used for several days.

I don't get this. Can I upgrade the radio without upgrading the ROM and do I need HardSPL?
Also, sounds like it's impossible to know what the best radio is for where I live?

Yes and yes. You can upgrade the radio alone. If you don't HardSPL first your TD2 won't accept the new Radio ROM (or any other ROMs except HTC's official one for your phone). Once you're done, only the radio drivers (GSM, 3G, wifi, and GPS) will be upgraded, your "main" ROM won't be touched.
All details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276
As a general rule, the newer the Radio ROM the better it will be as more bugs have been ironed out, wherever you live. If, though, some aspect is worse, you can always "downgrade" to a different one by the same means. Check your present version from the boot-up screen.

Thanks Pete!

Pete_S said:
I can answer my question now. Finally took the plunge, did Hard-SPL and installed Topaz_Radio_4.47.25.21.
It's definitely better than the stock radio as far as 3G reception is concerned. The improvements are:
a) better performance in weak signal areas. This doesn't show in the number of signal bars, which stays the same. But, you now get data even with no bars showing, and the speed is better all round too.
b) Cell changeover is much quicker. When signal is too low, it shows "no signal" straight away and reacquires it equally quickly. Before, it could take 20-30 seconds sometimes.
So, anyone streaming internet radio or downloading large files whilst on the move will get far better results. I was able to continuously listen to radio going through areas I couldn't even get a data link before.
If you're just web browsing, it'll be a quicker experience in weak signal areas. Highly recommended.
I didn't notice as much improvement to the GPS as other people's experiences suggested. It acquires satellites from a "cold start" a bit quicker, but still takes much longer than the proper stand-alone GPS units do. Still, at least it doesn't "hang" for several minutes as it sometimes did before when it hadn't been used for several days.
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HI Pete
i am also on t mobile (compact V rather than D2) iused T mobile stock radi which was poor poor poor. I have also used
4.47.25.31 which was quite good and kept a signal well but
4.48.25.13 was poor kept loosing a signal so am now trying your recommendation.
daljit (west london in poor signal area)

hali39 said:
HI Pete
i am also on t mobile (compact V rather than D2) iused T mobile stock radi which was poor poor poor. I have also used
4.47.25.31 which was quite good and kept a signal well but
4.48.25.13 was poor kept loosing a signal so am now trying your recommendation.
daljit (west london in poor signal area)
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To be honest, I used 4.47.25.21. because I downloaded it sometime ago, not because of any research I did, so i was lucky
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I tried the latest ROM tonight (4.49.25.17). It was OK, but no better 3G reception. Bit of a "con" actually,because the signal meter stayed at 4 bars a lot more, but in a weak signal area it drooped to no bars just as quickly! They've just been fiddling with the meter curve so it looks more impressive. In fact, I had trouble keeping an internet radio stream going, so I've gone back to your recommendation this time (4.47.25.31).
I could get a bit bored of this Radio ROM testing soon...

Seems like 4.49.25.17 is the best radio of all !!
Everyone is flashing this radio and getting full bars signal, great call quality and fast gps lock (including me) !!!

rom update - london
hi
i have had radio 4.47.25.21 on since yesterday and again found it lost signal really easily similar to 4.48.25.13
am now going back to 4.47.25.31 which is the best of the ones i have tried.
regards
daljit

@ haranbh:
Everyone is flashing this radio and getting full bars signal
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Yes, that's because they adjusted the bars so people wouldn't complain any more. See hermes77 report here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276&page=28. This is what I suspected, because on weak signals it's exactly the same.
@hali39: I don't find a difference so far between 4.47.25.21 and 4.47.25.31, at least as far as 3G reception goes. Biggest problem is t-mobile. Every month that goes by it gets worse. I used to download the occasional large file from rapidshare on 3G, I wouldn't dream of that now

Pete_S said:
@ haranbh:
Yes, that's because they adjusted the bars so people wouldn't complain any more. See hermes77 report here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276&page=28. This is what I suspected, because on weak signals it's exactly the same.
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Well, i'm very happy with 4.49.25.17 !!
GPS signal locks on 3-10 seconds and stays very good even arround buildings !!
Call quality is also great...

Using Radio 4.49.25.17 on T-Mobile MDA Compact V German.
WiFi is connected within 2-4 sec, also GPS is faster. 3G is at max signal strength (was 3/4 before with original 3.43.25.19).
Used it heavily last days with Tom's Leo R2 ROM, no probs.

Pete_S said:
@ haranbh:
Yes, that's because they adjusted the bars so people wouldn't complain any more. See hermes77 report here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276&page=28. This is what I suspected, because on weak signals it's exactly the same.
@hali39: I don't find a difference so far between 4.47.25.21 and 4.47.25.31, at least as far as 3G reception goes. Biggest problem is t-mobile. Every month that goes by it gets worse. I used to download the occasional large file from rapidshare on 3G, I wouldn't dream of that now
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Hi thanks for the input. I stay in India and just flashed the Radio to 4.49.25.17 (was: 3.43.25.19) and looks like all Good here . Will continue testing and will let you know too...

Not wishing to "bump" my own thread, just reporting I've gone back to the original stock ROM for reasons of seemingly greater compatibility with T-mobile in the UK regarding data continuity between cells. Longer (yawn!) report here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547276&page=38

Can someone please explain how to update the radio. I have installed the latest HardSPL and I downloaded Topaz_Radio_4.49.25.17.exe. The thread says "Rename radio to TOPAIMG.nbh, copy to your SD-Card, go to bootloader (Reset with VolumeDown pressed)". However, this is an executable file that runs on the PC. And when I run it, it wants to change the image version from 1.40.110.1 to 1.00.000.0. This looks to be an earlier version of something that is not the radio, so I got the willies and cancelled. What do I do?

You can use the .exe file to update your radio using USB. The version number refers to the non-existant main ROM file and not the Radio so whilst it's misleading, it does work fine. I did it last week.
If you want to update using the SD Card then you need to extract the nbh file from the .exe using WinRAR, or your favourite compressed file unpacker. Then it is that file that is renamed for placing on the SD Card.
John

japester36 said:
You can use the .exe file to update your radio using USB. The version number refers to the non-existant main ROM file and not the Radio so whilst it's misleading, it does work fine. I did it last week.
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Thanks again John. I have upgraded now. I had a few worries, though. The process stopped on the PC saying "ERROR[260]: CONNECTION", warning me that the usb cable was not connected. However, a couple of minutes later, the phone reported "Update Complete". I rebooted the phone and it loaded OK.

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[RADIO] no/bad radio signal aaaargh

the problem i have, is that my phone loses signal every once in a while. I get between 4 and 0 signal bars, changing all the time, while I sit still in the living room So often I have no reception for text messages or calls.
it seems that winmo uses so much CPU power for certain background tasks, that the signal quality suffers, or even loses signal. When starting a call, or sending an sms, the signal bars drop like led.
what can I can do? getting desperate here... I even tried holding the phone upside down, thus not touching the antenna. Pharaday effect is known, but phone quality is only marginally better outside. Tried all radios on the forum, and several different flavours ROM, including a stock one
is there a software tool, that displays exact radio signal strength, instead of the bars on top?
dXsL said:
the problem i have, is that my phone loses signal every once in a while. I get between 4 and 0 signal bars, changing all the time, while I sit still in the living room So often I have no reception for text messages or calls.
it seems that winmo uses so much CPU power for certain background tasks, that the signal quality suffers, or even loses signal. When starting a call, or sending an sms, the signal bars drop like led.
what can I can do? getting desperate here... I even tried holding the phone upside down, thus not touching the antenna. Pharaday effect is known, but phone quality is only marginally better outside. Tried all radios on the forum, and several different flavours ROM, including a stock one
is there a software tool, that displays exact radio signal strength, instead of the bars on top?
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i have very bad signal if i sit or stand under or next to METAL roof around my house, but i have a very good signal outside my house. Sometimes i am not able to receive a call when making a call from home phone. Since you have all radios in here, i don't know which radio to suggest. FYI, I am using 2.08.50.08_2 radio and it gives me better signal.
waichai said:
i have very bad signal if i sit or stand under or next to METAL roof around my house, but i have a very good signal outside my house. Sometimes i am not able to receive a call when making a call from home phone. Since you have all radios in here, i don't know which radio to suggest. FYI, I am using 2.08.50.08_2 radio and it gives me better signal.
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that's Pharaday's Cage effect. that is not what I have. HD2 cpu power is having an effect on the radio signal strength (bg processes probably)
If other people with non-HD2 phones have the same problems, the problem may not be your HD2, but consider you have weak signal strength from your provider. This happened in my previous appartment where I had to stay in the kitchen if I wanted to make a phone call.
What radio ROM do you use ? I had some problems too in the past. Now with radio ROM 2.10.50.26 I don't have these problems anymore.
But in the meanwhile I never went back to a stock ROM either so my next question is : what ROM do you use ? I don't have any of these problems with Laurentius26 or CleanEX ROMs since I use the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM.
Trudi said:
What radio ROM do you use ? I had some problems too in the past. Now with radio ROM 2.10.50.26 I don't have these problems anymore.
But in the meanwhile I never went back to a stock ROM either so my next question is : what ROM do you use ? I don't have any of these problems with Laurentius26 or CleanEX ROMs since I use the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM.
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hej, 2.10.50.26 was the last one I used, when i decided to go "back" to the official ROM in Denmark and that one came with radio 2.06.51.07.
I used primarily Miri's ROM, but I switched to Artemis (did of course a task29 after the stock ROM); Artemis tests on radio 2.06 instead of 2.10. My theory was/is that a windows ROM should fit with radio ROM. But so far, not noticeably better.
REQ: still looking for a tool that monitors (and logs?) signal strength, so I do some tests. anyone?
I just found this post by tokolosh in an EnergROM thead
Q: Which is the best Radio to use with EnergyRoms ...... ?
A: There is no "Best" Radio, they seem to be Location and Preference dependant. Some have better Recetion but poor battery life and vicaversa. Try out the "big 4" to see which works best for you (2.(07/08/09/10).50.xx_xx) just make sure it is a 50 and not a 51 version --> example 2.07.50.xx is good but 2.07.51.xx is not
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Anyone smarter than me who can explain WHY the 51 is not good? (googled for answer but no luck...)

Vibrant GPS Test: Motorola CLIQ vs TWO Vibrants initial lock

Here's the Video, for those who want to see first hand the Vibrant initial GPS locking issue:
I decided to compare my two new Samsung Vibrant's to my Motorola Cliq...
I tried with and without the fix, and tried with and without wireless, and with and without use wireless networks... all resulted in the same results... The Vibrant GPS has a problem.
Test Case
1. Power off
2. Power on
3. Start GPS Test
Results:
Motorola Cliq: ~ 1 second
Vibrant 1: ~ 70 seconds
Vibrant 2: ~120 seconds
I repeated the the test several times, and the vibrants had random results from 1 to 10 minutes to find the initial lock.
After the initial lock, subquentiant locks took less than a second, however anytime the vibrant is shutdown, or hours pass, the vibrant goes back to taking minutes to lock.
awesome video.. i noticed a couple of things that were very interesting in this video:
one, i noticed after owning *cough*several*cough* cliqs that the cliq keeps the GPS polling in the background periodically. the cliq also runs in MS Based mode. i found this out after being on the road with my band with this phone. when my network signal is lost so is my GPS lock. that probably contributes to the faster lock displayed in GPS test. the software seems to keep the GPS locked in the background all the time.
two, i also noticed that the vibrant in the middle that showed a single sat lock in GPS test also displayed the same time discrepancy that i discovered and posted about in my reply in the "GPS fix" thread. the vibrant also seems to keep the GPS "off" when not in use by any programs.. and it seems to have a relatively cold startup. this probably contributes to the phone sipping battery as compared to the cliq. the vibrant also comes stock with the GPS in "stand alone" mode. this makes the GPS separate from the mobile network. in theory you should still be able to achieve GPS data and lock independent of your network connection status. this is helpful when navigating in an out of network area.
i do agree that the GPS on the vibrant needs to be fixed.. but i am very convinced that the problem is in the way that the software reads the raw data from the GPS and Compass and also how the hardware is utilized.. and not related to any hardware failure. i also agree that one thing i liked about the cliq was that the compass and gps were always bang-on accurate. even if the rest of the phone was a total fail.
This depresses me to no end. I love my Vibrant, and these issues are what's keeping me at bay with a return. So long as they just came out and admitted there was a problem, that they intended to fix, I would be happy.
What do you guys think? Is it worth it to keep the phone and hope that the OTA / 2.2 update fixes the issues? Or are we about to be left in the dust by lack of support?
im of the firm belief that the issues are software based and therefore very fixable.. i also was shown the email that mentioned the 2.2 update for the Vibrant that will be released in the "next couple of weeks." so.. im keeping mine. my GPS works well enough for now that its usable until an update is issued.
captain_awesome said:
awesome video.. i noticed a couple of things that were very interesting in this video:
one, i noticed after owning *cough*several*cough* cliqs that the cliq keeps the GPS polling in the background periodically. the cliq also runs in MS Based mode. i found this out after being on the road with my band with this phone. when my network signal is lost so is my GPS lock. that probably contributes to the faster lock displayed in GPS test. the software seems to keep the GPS locked in the background all the time.
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I'm not sure why they would change the code that already worked very well with the cliq... Turn the cliq on and BANG it locks with and without use wireless network setting
I hear that the galaxy s used newer gps hardware, so while I'm hopeful it's a software issue, I'm not so sure. Every app now days is using location services, so this is a MAJOR issue if they can't get GPS to lock on in seconds
dalepa said:
I'm not sure why they would change the code that already worked very well with the cliq... Turn the cliq on and BANG it locks with and without use wireless network setting
I hear that the galaxy s used newer gps hardware, so while I'm hopeful it's a software issue, I'm not so sure. Every app now days is using location services, so this is a MAJOR issue if they can't get GPS to lock on in seconds
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what code are you referring to?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Is this news? I had a CLIQ and there have been several updates to it's GPS capabilities. Even the latest update (6 months after it's release) is supposed to improve lock time. I was happy with the CLIQ's GPS performance but it wasn't always good. The Vibrant has no problem getting a quick lock or seeing a bunch of sats with acceptable SNR levels. It just doesn't connect to nearly as many as it should and eventually it will take longer to get a lock (I'm back to a few seconds but who knows how long that will last) which seems completely like a firmware issue.
With some new tweaks I did to the GPS, I get a quicccccccccck lock from a FRESH reboot and this is only after 10 seconds or so. This is subject to get worse or stay the same but obviously, the GPS isn't flawed but the firmware is. It also seems like if it was to lock onto more sats, that it would be really good.
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What tweaks did you do to get 10 seconds after reboot?
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What tweaks did you do to get 10 seconds after reboot?
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It's all temporary stuff so I wouldn't bother.
heygrl said:
With some new tweaks I did to the GPS, I get a quicccccccccck lock from a FRESH reboot and this is only after 10 seconds or so. This is subject to get worse or stay the same but obviously, the GPS isn't flawed but the firmware is. It also seems like if it was to lock onto more sats, that it would be really good.
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Ooh, that's interesting. You seem to have six locks, and two of those are reported "00" and are red? How are you getting locks there?
What tweaks did you make to keep zero's on your phone?
Try this. mines locks very fast using these settings
these are my application settings in LbsTestMode (use SGS tools to get into it)
session type >tracking
test mode >s/w test
operation mode >standalone
start mode >hot start
gps plus >on
dynamic acuracy >on
acuracy >1
gps logging >on <----this is very important
why did you dig up an 8 month old thread??
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why did you dig up an 8 month old thread??
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Because he thought he could help someone.
Why did you post in an 8 month old thread if him resurrecting it offended you so much? Just let it die again.
and who said i was offended? its simple question out of curiosity. how bout you get off your high horse buddy.

Maybe our GPS isn't so bad after all..

DROID with network based location off, GPS based location on
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Vibrant with network based location off, GPS based location on
Same story for one DROID X at this store even with it's AGPS on (there is an option within the location menu for enabling or disabling aGPS on the X), but another DROID X got a quicker fix than both of those DROID's however I suspect it was polling GPS before I opened up maps. The Vibrant pulled that location in about 10 seconds, no "Location Unavail." Msg at all and it was all indoors.
ha thats the same store i bought my vibrant from i can tell your by rainbow and 215 but yeah i havent really had issues with my gps at least that i know of it seems accurate to me
Side by side comparison with my G1 shows me (at least) that the 2 Vibrants I've tested take about 10x as long to get a fix and use about 1/10th the number of satellites.
I haven't had a single gps error since before the vibrant was even released but judging by how many people are I suspect certain batches were defected
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Side by side comparison with my G1 shows me (at least) that the 2 Vibrants I've tested take about 10x as long to get a fix and use about 1/10th the number of satellites.
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Same story for me, except my Vibrant side-by-side with my Blackberry 8900 (can't confirm # of satellites but I can confirm time to get a lock).
Anecdotal evidence isn't convincing me that Samsung is dragging their feet here.
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Side by side comparison with my G1 shows me (at least) that the 2 Vibrants I've tested take about 10x as long to get a fix and use about 1/10th the number of satellites.
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That sounds bad but can we get some guesstimates in time? 1secondx10=10 seconds. 10secondsx10=100seconds..
In MS-Based mode under LBSTestMode (whether or not this actually makes any changes to GPS behavior, that's what I have it in) It takes no time to get a lock.
gps works great for me. I get a lock in doors instantly..... Its a little off though in doors but out doors its spot on. I dont need to find a pot of gold so within 20 feet is good for me.
Locational services work, maybe, one out of five times for me. When they try to locate me, it shows me in a neighboring city for at least five minutes. If I wait forever, it will sometimes finally update with the correct location.
So im at work in a huge brick building. With just my location on it puts me about 10 blocks away. I went outside on the deck at work in a open view, opened google maps again and saw I was still 10 blocks away, I pulled down my notification bar and turned gps on, within 4 seconds it found me right dead smack center of my work building.
I dont know, I dont have any issues though. Thing works great for me...
The thing is, it sometimes works quite well. I haven't been able to nail now a pattern with it. Turning on AGPS helps a lot, sometimes. Other times it fails to download the data for AGPS and drops to standalone mode, which is what it should do, but why would the download seem to fail when the G1 sitting next to it works fine? I've tried various settings for the server and such, all of them work sometimes.
The other irritating thing is when it seems to download the almanac, then proceeds to sit there "seeing" only one satellite (SNR bars in GPS Test). It knows which ones are in the sky, it should use that to get the GPS chip tracking all of them at once, as it has the channels. It's acting like a single channel receiver sometimes. That's a big reason why AGPS is so fast, it knows which channels to listen on, no need to search for signals.
I didn't have the G1 before the GPS was fixed, but it sounds a lot like our issue. The way the SGS acts leads me to think it's software related, likely the GPS driver or firmware. The actual RF performance seems pretty good, sometimes better than the G1 going by the SNR reported. It's just acting like it's often getting poor instruction from the driver/OS level.
My biggest complaint is that Samsung and TMobile are trying to act like it's not a problem. If Samsung can't reproduce it, they aren't trying or they have programmed the GPS chip in such a way that it works in their location. Samsung is a global company, there's no excuse for not testing a flagship device in multiple countries. And in todays market, there's no excuse for not being upfront and honest with your customers. Nor is there one for not beta testing with real customers in every major market you want to enter.
If I were running things over at Verizon, I'd be laughing my way to the bank and telling Samsung to keep their busted SGS. They were smart enough to get more than one manufacturer with a "superphone" and don't need Samsung. Between the Droid X and the Incredible, they have got TMO and AT&T spanked hard.
Yea, how long until their competitors start running ads poking fun at it, like the no jacket required ads last week making light of the iPhone antenna problems? HTC and moto should be all over this.
I am unable to get a lock indoors and outside it takes 20sec to a minute or more to lock on and then it turns on and off sporadically. It will seem to be fine and then it just does not function and then in awhile it seems to be better. I have the MS etc. fix enabled and before that it was not functioning with any kind of regularity or accuracy. I get 1 of 12 in use at the most and most of the time I get zero in use.The accuracy after it finally gets a lock is adequate but not great.I use Cardio trainer on a daily basis several times per day and it is just awful as it locks on and off and leaves me with terrible accuracy. Indoors it shows me about 2 to 3 miles away and most of the time it picks up no location at all. An email I received back from Samsung after complaining stated that they have not found the cause of any problem and they are continuing to try and find the cause and resolve the issue. I called tech supp and they at least mentioned that there might be an issue and could give me no other information. That is not very reassuring to me as the device has been out internationally for some months now and out of the box has had GPS issues. Really makes me question my decision to purchase this device. I do love it but the GPS is a integral part of my usage and it does not look like there is any help anytime soon. I am just past the 14 day period so a refund is not possible. I was holding on to the hope that Samsung would act quickly or even just act on this issue and I guess I was betting on a tired horse.I guess Samsungs track record speaks for itself and it is not too pretty. I really do prefer using it to my N1 it has tremendous potential to be as good or better than any phone on the market.

Singapore StarHub users > what is working.

Hi, I know there aren't many from Singapore here but I'd like to share what is working for me as some are having really bad data down (300 kbps). As SG is a small place, our HD2 should all be similar (unless you got it from overseas).
ROM: Chuckydroid Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734238&highlight=chuckydroid
Radio:
2.11.50.26 is most reliable for me. Constant H signal, full bars steady.
2.10 radio works as well but tends to switch to G -3G- H a lot. That alone drains a lot of power I believe.
Android: Shubcraft 1.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740963
Kernel:
I'm using the file: Build_n.7z
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756513
What's not working or not working well:
- Wifi not working.
- wifi/USB Tethering not working.
To solve this, I USB tether using EasyTether which you can get from Market.
- Screen freeze.
Settings > Display > Turn off Auto-rotate screen.
I can't get G sensor to work on any build without freezing my screen.
- MMS might or might not work.
Truth be told, I'm not bothered by it.
- Blue tooth: I don't use so never tested.
What's working?
Pretty much everything else.
My biggest concern really is data speed and reliability. With the builds i listed above, I get very consistent data down. Up isn't so great but I download more than I upload so it works for my needs. You might get disconnected 2-3 times per work day but I consider that reliable enough as my daily work phone.
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If you want a build that works well with good consistent data, working MMS and working Wifi, use:
SHUBCRAFT 1.4d
replace with zImage dated 24 Aug 2010
Phone setting:
*#*#4636#*#* > Set preferred network type > GSM Auto (PRL)
The default is WCDMA preferred.
Battery uptime:
Isn't great but can get about 4hr hours of constant screen on @ 75% bright, installing apps, browsing, general tasks. Moderate use will get me from 7 am - 10 pm daily.
Try it out and hope it works for you.
Hi,
I'm also from singapore and i'm using stock rom (1.66.707.1), radio 2.12.50.02_2.
My android build is darkstone froyostone v2, changed my rootfs to the ppp one from mattc.
So far i got 1 restart, no SOD, data works, wifi works, g sensor hasn't had major issues.. Only thing is that it takes a while (1-2sec) to wake from sleep...
Data speed i can get more than 1mbps download and 200kbps upload, so far it hasn't really disconnected by itself.. On singtel btw.
cool . im also a starhub user. shall bookmark this page to discuss issues liao . im using 2.12 radio . haven tried 2.11 before . hows 2.11 compared to 2.12 ? as for me , i previosly had alot of problem with hsdpa as well. kept dc . unntil in windows i change network to gsm 1800 900 from auto . in Android, i use wcdma only . haha . think my settings is kinda of weird . i shall try urs and see how
hi,
i am in singapore but i dont use 3G/HSDPA. I am just using wifi and works well. now in shubcraft 1.5, radios 2.10.50 and have a few issue
- low volume ( though i have set to max )
- where is the FM radio ?
- compass is pointing to the wrong direction :-(
- laggy and battery goes flat very fast
i have changed my winmo to chuckyROM.
regards
Ok, I'm a fellow Singaporean as well, totally reflashing and flashing my phone until I have no idea whats really inside..
I have the Latest Artemis installed, and 3 flavours of android installed, yeah bad idea, but I'm testing out which is better..
So far Darkstone works the best, with Wifi, bluetooth and everything else, hey what happened to the FM Radio? lol..
Battery life is "Jia Lat". Watch the meter drop like a Porche stuch in Orchard Road, one vroom 50Cents.. lol..
I'm thinking of organizing a gathering for ourselves, just sit down have a drink and discuss a little on our findings.. who's keen?
BladeZ
wow many singaporeans here. I am using Mattc Leo's Froyo w/sense.
Works great. Everything is working for me except for occasional touchscreen freezes which occurs very seldom. It will just go away after locking and unlocking my screen.
Wifi is working for me. My G sensor is on too.
I'm a fellow Singaporean, using STOCK HyperDroidV1.2 with 2.12 radio.
Wifi is working well, volume is ok.
No major issues other than the slow wake up from sleep
3G/HSDPA is inconsistent, sometimes it work, sometime it doesn't.
The only major gripe about my android experience so far is the battery life. With normal usage, smses every now and then, my phone can hardly last a day.
Hi, from Singapore too. I gave up on android on my HD2 cuz' I can't even boot up with chuckyrom.
Ran haret and booted to the lockscreen only to have the phone reset.
I have since gotten a galaxy S for free, so getting my droidfix there.
Is there a singapore HD2 radio thread anyone can point me to?
YEAH! Stand up for singapore, do the best we can!!!
Hi, i am a singaporean too.
Currently using HyperDroid 1.5, best ROM atm since shu8i didnt update shubcraft anymore.
After testing out so many builds by developers, ppp and RMNET doesnt make much of a difference for us. I am getting 200-300 kb/sec download and 10-30 kb/sec upload on average.
What i am concerned is the battery, suck so badly. Screen so big, phone so big, use only a 1230 mAh battery, facepalmed.
aye, sporean here too...on singtel tho haha. tried shubcraft 1.5 before but found it to be a bit more buggy, having probs installing apps onto phone
but gotta admit does look nicer. sticking with bangsters 1.3 for now with chuckydroid. on radio 2.11.50.20. apps have no more problem installing.
battery drain on standby is quite jialat, wake up almost 8-10% gone. but i find that using it on the move occassionally for twitter, fb, surfing, searching and stuff consumes much less than winmo compared. was with dutty's and elegancia's gtx previously.
don't ever think i'm going back to winmo for now until wp7 gets ported. haha.
Aye aye so many singaporean lah.wow did not know leh.
i now testing mdeejay_froyo_sense_v2.1a_ppp version.Previously using FroyoStone.
Somehow i find android very lag compared to WM6. I tried others also very lag. rest no problem
Tried darkstones' but I think its bugged and laggy, tried HyperDroid and feels that its the most stable and fastest rom out there.
Wow so many singaporen here...suprisely. Using chuckyrom and shubcraft 1.5 with starhub. All working well and only problem face is i cannot surf in facebook and gmail using starhub line. If with home wifi then working fine. M'sia but in and out sg everyday.
pingbangboom said:
YEAH! Stand up for singapore, do the best we can!!!
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Ok, seems like we're a patriotic bunch.. lol..
Ok! Who's interested for a coffee session. Think there may be some vast age differences but hey, we are all on the same quest to get Android running properly on our HD2 right?
Interested parties, please PM me your contact numbers and name. If you're married, do bring your wives, I'll bring mine since she's suddenly keen on my new quest lol..
BladeZ
derycklong said:
Tried darkstones' but I think its bugged and laggy, tried HyperDroid and feels that its the most stable and fastest rom out there.
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Follow what i did, i think you'll be pleased..
cheangjc said:
Aye aye so many singaporean lah.wow did not know leh.
i now testing mdeejay_froyo_sense_v2.1a_ppp version.Previously using FroyoStone.
Somehow i find android very lag compared to WM6. I tried others also very lag. rest no problem
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Fwah 3 days you bricked your galaxy s ? record man.. hows the condition now, maybe can still salvage?
Android lag compared to WM6? I don't think so man! Mine flies..
Ow yeah, Class 4 and 10 MicroSD cards make a difference in battery life and speed.. I just got a 16GB Class 4 from Sim Lim for $47.00 really significant, format Fat32 @ 32K Allocation Units..
BladeZ
technoglitz87 said:
aye, sporean here too...on singtel tho haha. tried shubcraft 1.5 before but found it to be a bit more buggy, having probs installing apps onto phone
but gotta admit does look nicer. sticking with bangsters 1.3 for now with chuckydroid. on radio 2.11.50.20. apps have no more problem installing.
battery drain on standby is quite jialat, wake up almost 8-10% gone. but i find that using it on the move occassionally for twitter, fb, surfing, searching and stuff consumes much less than winmo compared. was with dutty's and elegancia's gtx previously.
don't ever think i'm going back to winmo for now until wp7 gets ported. haha.
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Hey i had the same issue with my Bangster when I was on Chuckydroid.. sometimes my audio just disappears. Now, I switched to Ozroid (since I am not using WM any more), Audio is perfect, does not drop off anymore and app installation all works except Flight Director the game for some strange reason, all others work! lol..
When my screen freezes, I press the Window button, and it resumes.
When it sleeps, quite rare it can't come back. If it does decide not to come back, I press the Window button , back arrow and power it comes back.
I am getting about 2% drain on standby mode
Hi bjkoh, how's ya sg members recuiting? count me in too

[Q] CM7 RC4 + Which radio = Working GPS?

So which radio version do I flash with RC4 to get the GPS to work? It seems like I flashed all the radios but my gps doesn't work.
I'm using CyanogenMod 7 RC4 as well and I've found that GPS has been fine with the stock radio (see my sig -- that's the stock radio from Bell).
Have you tried using the GPS Status app to reset and redownload the A-GPS data?
I have a tmobile phone, so I don't know what my stock radio is. And no I haven't. Is that a free Market app?
EDIT: How do I even know if my GPS works or not? The way I am testing is by using IGo My way GPS application, which doesn't detect where I am, so I assume that my GPS doesn't work.
convolution said:
I have a tmobile phone, so I don't know what my stock radio is. And no I haven't. Is that a free Market app?
EDIT: How do I even know if my GPS works or not? The way I am testing is by using IGo My way GPS application, which doesn't detect where I am, so I assume that my GPS doesn't work.
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Yes, you can find GPS Status on the Market.
It seems that GPS status works, Google Maps work, but IGoMyWay doesn't detect my position. Why is that?
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Yes, you can find GPS Status on the Market.
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That's right, the app GPS Status & Toolbox will tell you whether the GPS is working or not. Just install for Market and open the app. If you are in clear view of the sky and a working GPS, you should see the app starting to pick up the satellites within a couple minutes or less. You will see points starting to pop up on the circular compass display, indicating the positions of the satellites. Below that, green bars will start to pop up, indicating signal strength with each satellite (maybe not the exactly correct terminology here, but you'll see what I mean). Once the GPS has locked onto enough satellites, you will see the lat/long coordinates pop up. This also means that other apps, like Google Maps, or any other map/nav programs you prefer, can start using your GPS position.
If the GPS is "broken" you will so absolutely no activity on either the circular display, or the bar graph.
GPS Status & Toolbox will also download A-GPS data, which can help get faster locks onto the satellites. The A-GPS data is regularly updated information on the positions of the different satellites, making it a bit faster for the GPS to find them.
Help me redpoint! I downloaded CoPilot and it also could not detect any GPS signals, even though I turned on GPS! Only the GPS status detected satellites.
WHHYYYY??!?! I AM SO FRUSTRATED!!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
lulz but yeah, I don't want to spend unnecessary money on an actual GPS device if I don't have to.
EDIT: GPS status does not work anymore. It worked before. I had RC4 for both when it worked and when it stopped working. What the hell?
Have you tried this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12635790&postcount=20
I had the GPS issue on RC1, and this fixed it. RC2 for me worked fine as-is. I haven't tried RC3 or 4 yet. I've pretty much decided CM7 is cool if you want the latest and greatest bells and whistles, but its got more than its fair share of bugs. Right now, its Virtuous for me.
It doesn't work.
I also tried flashing the radios. They don't work either...
This is strange. I guess the last resort is to ditch CM7 and go back to CM 6.1.1? Or Virtuous?
Sounds like you got the GPS running for a bit, but now its not? What worked?
Try the OTA stock .26 TMobile radio and format the sytem, data, and cache partitions before flashing new ROMs. I haven't had GPS problems since I started doing that.
@ ra990: Do you mind directing me to the download source?
@ redpoint: The first time I turn on the GPS it would work, but after that any subsequent time I use it, it doesn't work.
EDIT: Google Maps works when I am connected to wifi at home and GPS is on. I then close Google Maps and start up GPS status and it won't detect satellites. I then proceed to open up CoPilot and the program won't detect any GPS signals. I then open google maps again and it still works. I then turn my wireless off and watched my position on Google Maps suddenly change and becomes inaccurate (IE, moves my location to a place that I was not physically at from a place where I was physically at, but was not that far off.)
EDIT EDIT: I tried 3 different roms, 1 stock gingerbread, 1 gingerbread sense, 1 virtuous. All failed on me.
EDIT EDIT EDIT: I tried ra990's version. In fact, I tried all the versions and I followed this as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021463
Nothing works.
GPS status is not accurate in measuring if it works for me. Becuase back when i did not have a lock the gps status was working but my navigation was not picking up anything nor the gps symbol showing. After reflashing the .26 radio my gps works.
Just to check, how long should I wait for it to pick up a signal before I say it "doesn't" work? Cause I've been waiting for like 5-10 minutes for it to pick up a signal each time I test.
convolution said:
Just to check, how long should I wait for it to pick up a signal before I say it "doesn't" work? Cause I've been waiting for like 5-10 minutes for it to pick up a signal each time I test.
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If the GPS is "not working" due to the CM7 bug, you will not get a lock, or even any activity on GPS Status, no matter how long you wait. If you are getting a lock at all, or any communication with the satellites, this seems like a different issue than the CM7 bug I've seen.
If you haven't used the GPS in a while (couple days) or your location has changed significantly (like getting off a plane) its not unusual in my experience to take a few minutes, maybe 5, to get a lock. That is because the locations of the satellites in the sky would have changed enough, that it takes some time for the GPS to find and lock onto them. But if you have used the GPS recently (maybe within a couple hours, but certainly if you turn it off and go back in a few minutes) it should lock pretty quickly, within a couple minutes, maybe faster.
And does collecting them signals get that much affected by being indoors as opposed to outdoors? Will the time vary significantly?
convolution said:
And does collecting them signals get that much affected by being indoors as opposed to outdoors? Will the time vary significantly?
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Absolutely!!!! Have you been trying to do this indoors? Go outside and try it. And with as much a clear view of the sky as possible, so an area with a minimum of trees, buildings, etc.
Although the Vision is better at getting a GPS lock in my house compared to my past 2 phones (Touch Pro 2, Kaiser), it usually only works by a window for me. And in some buildings, I never get a lock. Results will vary depending on the type of building, being by a window, etc. In the car tends to work pretty well too, but I will usually put the phone on the dashboard to get a lock, where it has a better view of the sky thru the windshield.
Although it might work indoors, its much better to exclude the building interference from the equation while you are troubleshooting.
Oooooh. That might be the problem. I will try and go outdoors and report my findings.
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Good news, everyone! It worked!
What I did was flash a radio (to be honest I forgot which one, it's either the .26 or .28b one) and I also matched it with that automatic radio matcher zip you flash. And it can pick up signals now if I am outdoors or sticking my phone out of the window in my house!
Thx everyone for all ur help!

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