So first off, id like to thank Jac and Drizzy for the wonderful work they have done on the OS, its BEAUTIFUL! The only thing i dont quite understand is why is it slow even with a class 6 SD Card? I dont understand, the thing is MANAGABLE, but pressing home sometimes takes forever! a good minute or so, or when opening an application, such as Phone or People. Loading the onscreen keyboard is a bi**h as well!
Does anyone have any ideas? Its supposed to run fine when you have a class 6 and you utilize the SD card, but maybe im doing something wrong?
Someone want to help me out?
i will try to answer this in a polite way. its not made for your phone and it runs somewhat choppy even on htc hero. widgets=lag. are you using a linux-swap partition? you should be. can't remember if compache is supported, but if it is, are you using it as well? if you can use it, you should. did you reformat your ext2/3/4 (not just wiped it but straight up reformatted it) before flashing the rom? if not, you should. did you follow the step by step instructions in the thread on how to set up for it? follow them exactly. anything else... most hero roms have a slow down affect that they suffer from after a period of time, so could that be it. hope some of this helps.
As David said, Hero is laggy on the G1, and it's gonna stay that way. This is mainly because the Hero has 288mb of ram, and the dream has 192 (that's a 96mb difference). There's no way we can fully make a up for only having 2/3 of the ram from the Hero, but linux-swap and compache is all we have. I found that a 64mb linux-swap partition on JacHero 2.73 works pretty well.
It's like running Windows Vista Ultimate with Aero on an Intel Celeron D Processor and 512mb of ram.
pyrokenesis_17 said:
So first off, id like to thank Jac and Drizzy for the wonderful work they have done on the OS, its BEAUTIFUL! The only thing i dont quite understand is why is it slow even with a class 6 SD Card? I dont understand, the thing is MANAGABLE, but pressing home sometimes takes forever! a good minute or so, or when opening an application, such as Phone or People. Loading the onscreen keyboard is a bi**h as well!
Does anyone have any ideas? Its supposed to run fine when you have a class 6 and you utilize the SD card, but maybe im doing something wrong?
Someone want to help me out?
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download overclock from market
and then set the max settings to 385 and minimum to 380.
hero roms run best at 383mhz
and plus download and flash jacxhero 1.1 its a lot faster and smoother than 1.2 i noticed and i asked other and some noticed as well
what i dont like jac's rom is the ease of flashing...everytime i flash i have to reinstall apps.but in drizzy apps u can flash any of his apps wichout wiping ext3
so far drizzy 2.2r2 runs best out of all his roms.
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i've been reading up on compcache and the way that it works, but i'm pretty confused on how exactly this works on the android platform... i can't seem to pull the exact definition of compcache for android through all the chatter from threads, and it seems my answer gets lost in translation...
so to put it simply, i'm assuming from all my thread reading that compcache is actually based off the ext partition that you have on your SD card, and not on the RAM itself on the device? is this right? this is where i get confused, cause the compcache writers and developers say that it creates a ramzswap in the ram itself and stores compressed pages on the device RAM, effectively increasing the efficiency of your onboard RAM... in android's case and all the cooked ROMs, does it work off your SD card and your ext partition? or does it work off the RAM itself...
i'm currently running cyanogen's latest 32b release on my mytouch and its running extremely fast WITHOUT apps2sd, but i would like the benefits of compcache to prevent losing information from my browser and other applications like gtalk, which supposedly compcache helps with... would i have to create a ext partition and utilize apps2sd in order to utilize compcache? thanks in advance
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I'm also a bit confused
i would like to know as well as i've installed Cyanogen v4.0.1
i went into the recovery console and formatted my SD choosing the option of "Format SD: fat32+ext2+swap"
was this the correct thing to do?
either way if you format cyanogen's rom with just a fat32, or fat32 + ext + swap, it doesn't matter as his rom is compatible with either apps2sd or without...
the question is, where does compache compress its file pages? in the RAM, or in the SD card
Compcache uses xMB of RAM as compressed swap space. No ext2 or swap files or swap partitions are needed (though the latter two can be used as "backing swap").
So on a 32B, with RAM limitations already, how is that a good thing?
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Compcache uses xMB of RAM as compressed swap space. No ext2 or swap files or swap partitions are needed (though the latter two can be used as "backing swap").
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thanks thats the answer i was looking for...
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So on a 32B, with RAM limitations already, how is that a good thing?
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how is it NOT a good thing? compcache compresses page files, effectively increasing your RAM's efficiency and "technically" increasing its storage size in the allocated ramzswap... according to the developer's tests on different machines, it effectively makes it seem like it doubles the RAM amount on your computer...
this is nothing but good, especially for lower end machines like netbooks, and phones that have limited RAM allocation to begin with...
heres a small tidbit from the google source page
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
i don't mean to threadjack, but compcache will be active regardless of whether or not i partition my sd card to fat32+ext2+swap...?
and i only have to partition my sd card to fat32+ext2+swap ONLY if i want apps2sd to work correctly using Cyanogenmod's rom...?
please correct me if i'm wrong.
i'm really wondering because even though i'm using Cyanogenmod's latest rom on my MyTouch, i still get considerable lag throughout such as typing on the virtual keyboard, screen orientation rotation, etc. i also use TasKiller.
maybe i'm expecting too much...
probably... lag from orientation, keyboard, and small things like this are still very common... i've tested a lot of roms on both the g1 and mytouch, and cyanogen's is by far the fastest...
As I have understood it sort of compresses things stored in the RAM (like background apps)
I've done a good amount of reading on compcache and have found that its been causing problems in my 4.0.1 build of cyanogen... the best thread i've found on the issue is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547752
hopefully users continue to share their findings, as the the thread mentioned is for the G1, and i'm sure optimal compcache settings will differ on the mytouch 3G... i will be doing some extensive testing on compcache only (due to me recently buying a 32gb micro card, and don't want to mess it up with linux swap) and will report my results... if anyone would like to join in, please post your findings as well...
Hello, ive been having some issues with my MT3G over the past few days and ive noticed my phone has been lagging a lot even after rooting, installing latest cyanogen rom and using compcache. here is my setup:
mt3g 32b
cyanogenmod 4.2.11.1
Compcache default settings
lock home app in mem, otherwise i get reloads
i think the problem is that random apps keep turning on by themselves even after i kill them with advanced task manager. phone lags, i check task manager and apps like amazon mp3, market, messaging (i use handcent), locale (i now uninstalled it), settings and other random apps and i never launched any of these apps. so i kill all the apps, the phone runs fine and fast but about 1 min later other random apps load again and i have to rekill them. what gives? ive tried wiping and reinatalling to no avail... why does everyone else seem to have constantly fast mt3g's when i have essentially the same setup?
Seriously, no one?? Come on guys, at least someone has some advice?
have you tried changing your linux swap instead of compcache? Also, have you tried the ram hack?
I'm not sure why you have those things turning on again. I don't have that problem with my mt3g
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Thanks for the reply, I don't use linux swap (apps2sd?) considering the phones internal memory is quite a bit. I read about the ram hack but I use the phone for gaming quite a bit so I don't see how I would benefit from that. If linux swap really does make the difference then I guess I have no choice. The only thing that worries me is the sd card wearing down because of it although it doesn't seem to be much of an issue with G1 users or am I wrong?
linux swap is not apps2sd. it gives the phone more virtual memory that it feeds off the memory card to make up for the lack of ram over the 32A. ext is where the apps are stored for apps2sd, but the phone does not need that.
The ram hack only makes 3D gaming suffer. Games like ProjectINF, RoboDefense, Pacman, etc don't suffer from this. Even then, some 3D games still work fine for me, like Toon Warz.
And not the SD card doesn't really go bad, it has on some people, but even then, most sd card come with 5 year warranties. My transcend comes with a lifetime warranty, so you shouldn't worry about it.
Thank you, that cleared up a LOT of my confusion! I read somewhere that Amon_Ra's recovery image will setup linuxswap with one of its commands (partitioning?) or am I mistaken?
it partitions it into the 3 sections. fat32+ext+linux swap. This is what I did. However, this will give you the ext which will transfer all the apps to your sd. you can however, delete your ext if you don't want that using parted in adb. from there, you can use the swapper app and set it to your liking. I use 64mb and 40 swappiness.
Thanks for the help Tazz, linux swap made a difference. There's still a small lag sometimes but much less than before and less frequent. By the way, swapper seems to have been removed from the market for some reason.
Hey there!
Sorry my english isn't the best and I hope I picked the right Forum... And I hope I haven't overseen something in the search.
I got a "little" Problem with my G1.
Most of the time its sooooo dammit slow...
For example: You can't call someone from the list if you use the call button. If you press is short the phone is so slow that it recognize the button-press for a long time. so the voice-dial-dialog comes on...
Or go from one homescreen to another... It hangs, lags, everything!
To the phone:
It's rootet and has the CyanogenMod in version 4.2.13. the SD-Card is 4GB and Class 4. Formatted like this: 64 MB Swap, 512 MB for Apps-to-SD (if I remember right I should have it formattet to Ext4... otherwise it's Ext3), and the remaining space for everthing else.
Some day's ago I removed much of the installed Applications, but it's not better. Then I wiped it with the bootloader. but still it's not better.
Reflash CM doesn't work, too...
Has anyone an idea what that could be?
Thank you!
Greetings,
Alex
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I deleted the Cache of the Browser, etc. too... no effect. I got roundabout 500 SMS if that's interesting...
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Now I've done the userinit.sh again to enable the swap... It seems that there was the mistake. I think it's faster now. I'll tell you that was the answer...
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Anyone know good partition settings for the sd card? I've been troubled simply because clockwork doesn't really do it all well. I'm using linux, I love the disk management on linux Thanks for the info!
What do you mean 'good partition settings'? Sizes or more like types of partitions like Linux Swap, ext2,3,4...? With Android there's not much use for anything beyond basic Linux partitions (0x83) like ext2,3,4 and Linux Swap (0x82). Even at that, ext2 is all you really need - maybe ext3 for good measure. This whole deal with ext4 is crazy since our file systems are not even remotely close to being large enough to see a benefit from ext4, only a very tiny slight benefit, almost unnoticeable for the most part. The placebo effect works wonders IMO. Might as well use it though, since it doesn't take anymore time.
As far as swap, we don't need it on this phone really and even with a class 6 card it still slows you down. Use compcache. It should be faster assuming current ROMs retain the fix cyanogen put in back in the G1 days.
thanks
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What do you mean 'good partition settings'? Sizes or more like types of partitions like Linux Swap, ext2,3,4...? With Android there's not much use for anything beyond basic Linux partitions (0x83) like ext2,3,4 and Linux Swap (0x82). Even at that, ext2 is all you really need - maybe ext3 for good measure. This whole deal with ext4 is crazy since our file systems are not even remotely close to being large enough to see a benefit from ext4, only a very tiny slight benefit, almost unnoticeable for the most part. The placebo effect works wonders IMO. Might as well use it though, since it doesn't take anymore time.
As far as swap, we don't need it on this phone really and even with a class 6 card it still slows you down. Use compcache. It should be faster assuming current ROMs retain the fix cyanogen put in back in the G1 days.
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Thanks. I ended up re flashing clockwork and the partition worked for some reason. On another note, I havent' been able to format my sd card directly from the android storage settings for some reason. This has happened on stock and any CM rom I use. Think I have a bad sd card?
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Thanks. I ended up re flashing clockwork and the partition worked for some reason. On another note, I havent' been able to format my sd card directly from the android storage settings for some reason. This has happened on stock and any CM rom I use. Think I have a bad sd card?
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Could be but I've never had that issue before, nor have I heard of it happening - that's not to say it doesn't. Try to search around on here and see what you come up with. Try the Nexus 1 or G1 forums since you're more likely to find an answer there.
Hey there,
i updated my HD 2 (europe) from 2.3 to 4.x version of android because i had crackling sound and gaps with the old musicplayer and i like the new swipe keyboard. Now with JB or ICS its fine but i have many other problems. It doenst matter wich version of android 4.x i install, they are all very laggy or unstable. Some of them wont even start some times. I tried NAND and NATIVE SD (Class 10 Sandisk ultra 16 GB) installations with magldr and CLK... The probably stablest version i found for me is ZeJesters PAC on Native SD but this is very slow too and i can't start my most important apps "DB Navigator" or "Öffi" (ppl from germany will know them ) because they crash instantly . Is there anything that could be wrong with my phone so 4.x android roms wont run like they should? At first i thought it is just this or that rom that doesn't work but i can barley find a "stable" version at all... Now i'm pretty clueless... Some Ideas anyone? I realy like the new features of 4.x and dont want to go back :silly:
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Hey there,
i updated my HD 2 (europe) from 2.3 to 4.x version of android because i had crackling sound and gaps with the old musicplayer and i like the new swipe keyboard. Now with JB or ICS its fine but i have many other problems. It doenst matter wich version of android 4.x i install, they are all very laggy or unstable. Some of them wont even start some times. I tried NAND and NATIVE SD (Class 10 Sandisk ultra 16 GB) installations with magldr and CLK... The probably stablest version i found for me is ZeJesters PAC on Native SD but this is very slow too and i can't start my most important apps "DB Navigator" or "Öffi" (ppl from germany will know them ) because they crash instantly . Is there anything that could be wrong with my phone so 4.x android roms wont run like they should? At first i thought it is just this or that rom that doesn't work but i can barley find a "stable" version at all... Now i'm pretty clueless... Some Ideas anyone? I realy like the new features of 4.x and dont want to go back :silly:
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You might want to try using a DataOnEXT installation with a large system partition. You will have to read more on fine tuning, like min free, buffers, disabling unnecessary auto starts, etc. I trust you realize that your card is not functioning as an ultra card, yes?
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Thank you for your response...So you'r telling me i should install system on nand and data on ext right? i will give it a try later but what do you mean the card does not function as "ultra"? Just bought it because of its class 10 and 16 gb... i tought ultra is just the name of it
I dont realy get why the different roms run that more or less good at different devices of the same type... why do some have to tweak and some dont?
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Thank you for your response...So you'r telling me i should install system on nand and data on ext right? i will give it a try later but what do you mean the card does not function as "ultra"? Just bought it because of its class 10 and 16 gb... i tought ultra is just the name of it
I dont realy get why the different roms run that more or less good at different devices of the same type... why do some have to tweak and some dont?
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The Mobile Ultra (grey/red card) is a UHS I card (faster than Class 10) which falls back to Class 10 if needed. The HD2 cannot supply the required voltage to the card bus to enable (turn on) the UHS I transfer rates. If you want more details look for the heading "DEFINING BASIC CARD SPEED" in post 1 of this thread.
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The Mobile Ultra (grey/red card) is a UHS I card (faster than Class 10) which falls back to Class 10 if needed. The HD2 cannot supply the required voltage to the card bus to enable (turn on) the UHS I transfer rates. If you want more details look for the heading "DEFINING BASIC CARD SPEED" in post 1 of this thread.
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Sorry, I never included the link... The "this thread" should have been a link, my apologies. The thread I mentioned is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947560
No Problem at all
But do you think the not functionality of some apps is caused by for example wrong system partition size?
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No Problem at all
But do you think the not functionality of some apps is caused by for example wrong system partition size?
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That is a more difficult question. There are many, many possible reasons for lag and fc. Tell me a lot more about your setup (bootloader, partition sizes, what exactly are you seeing)
A system partition that is too small can create strange problems. Bad blocks in NAND. can be even more a problem if the system partition is not big enough. So, yes, odd things can result from that.
Lags when starting apps is more related to memory. With the HD2, unlike some newer phones, memory runs short easily, especially when lots of apps run on startup. Loading a big app can take 5-30 seconds depending on what the device was doing. Much of this can be significantly improved (though never totally eliminated) by more aggressive memory management. Search the thread I pointed you to for "min free" or "aggressive" and you should find settings to improve the lag. The information should be in the first 3 posts somewhere.
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