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Hi just found this forum after digging around trying to find info on the touch HD.. and thought that you folks arethe best people to ask..
Had my N95 for near 2 years (is the original 1 not the 8GB one) and have found it to be a great phone...... but fancied a change and tbh after seeing the Touch HD i kinda fell in love with it.. lol
I dont know alot about phone in general... so am unsure if upgrading to the HD is a good idea at this time? or is there something much better just around the corner i should wait for? or even a better phone out atm i should maybe look into?
i suppose im just a little worried about buying into another 24 month contract with a phone thats about to get a superior *big brother* in a few months....
So,,, reckon i should just go for a new HD?? or something else? or wait a couple months for some all singing and dancing phone i know nothing about yet? hehe...
great forum... very informative... if a little overwhelming for me
Cheers!
In my opinion you should wait-- cuz there are already more powerfull phones (like Toshiba TG-01) coming out!!! Im personaly waiting for something with Nvidia Tegra!!
Touch HD is a great phone in overall, but all phone have some flaws-- no d-pad, poor video performance(with stock drivers)--- you should read some reviews about Touch HD to get more thoughs about it!!
But anyways Htc aint releasing a much more powerfull phone this year (check www.pdadb.net ) so I think its worth to wait!!
I too upgraded from the original n95....great phone but I too liked the touch.
imho there is always a phone worth waiting for but when do you ever buy?....I think that if you were happy with the n95 for two years then the same will be true for the Hd.
Yes it has it`s quirky points but don`t all phones?
I am well pleased with the Hd and I signed up for 18 months with the option to upgrade in 15 months which I believe is the norm these days....just look through the forum and see what can be done to and with this phone.
I say go get it!!
Hope that helps!
i agree with Hdowner
Great phone and with all the modifications that can be done you can have a new phone everyday LOL well almost
Unless your heavily into watching videos on phone the video performance is fine
and I have never missed the dPad
I upgraded from an N95 about 5 months ago now, & kind of wished I had bought an i-phone instead. But I'm on the fence because I now run Miri's Cooked win mobile 6.5 ROM, which has improved the HD massively. If u decide to purchase a HD, prepare to flash a new ROM.
I could not believe my eyes the first time i booted up my HD and got a message that a programme had crashed, D'OH! Not a good start
I sum up with this;
If u want a business/professional phone with a large high rez screen, easily carrier unlocked and flash upgradeable get a HD.
If u want a great multimedia phone, application store, easy touch controls but an over controlled experience by Apple get an I-phone (S)
Tab
thnx for the input........ i have lately started to look at a couple of other phones.. like the new N97... or the Omnia 2... but none seem to grab me like the HD does...... i know everyone has there own tastes and likes,, but i just think it oozes quality and looks amazing,,,, a definate head turner
even toyed with the idea of the Iphone,,,,,,, but dont think i could jhandle being tied to all things apple,,,, and not being able to access the thousand of 3rd party appz out there... even on my n95 the ammount of free software is amazing and i can only imagine its even greater with a windows mobile,,,
now i just need the courage to try and work out how to upgrade it to Windows mobile 6.5 ...
HD is great (with non-stock ROM ) and I'm very satisfied but if N95 is operative to you could wait for new device coming and then you could choose with new platform.
But You must know I love change and mod device: iPhone (with screen more smooth etc..) is a jail to me and I hate install app only through Official Store (40Mb of s*it only to move mp3 on ipod... bleah!!)
D'rath
I'd say it's worth it, the newer HTC devices aren't necessarily better, just different, if you want simplicity and not a lot of flexibility consider the iPhone, but if you want control and choice go for a HTC device be it WM or Android.
I am wanting to buy a HTC phone, and I am very interested in the Touch Diamond 2. I have a few concerns because i am new to a Windows Mobile OS. Is there a MSN application? And how can you manage social networking on the TD2? In addition how is the Touch Screen? And i would like a decent camera and a workable QWERTY touch keyboard.
And my main point is, is the TD2 the best HTC phone on the market? Or is the Touch HD better?
I really appreciate the advice, thanks.
Hey,
There is a MSN application on the Touch Diamond 2.
As for social networking on the phone, your contacts can be synced to facebook. So your contacts pictures will show up as a display picutre.
The camera is ok but it can't take pictures in dark backgrounds as there is no flash.
I can not comment on TD2 vs THD as I only have a TD2. But they seem VERY similar apart from the screen size.
Hope that helps with your questions.
Man.
-Windows Live-application works fine, for chatting, email, contacts and everything.
-See other thread for facebook-integration, works like a charm, even syncs your friends with ur contacts.
-qwerty is included, most ppl download "finger keyboard" though, which is better.
-The camera isn't all that, but its okay.
so you would definately recommend the TD2 over the Nokia N97 for example?
Jamezzz said:
so you would definately recommend the TD2 over the Nokia N97 for example?
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N97 has a builtin keyboard, the HTC equivalent is the Touch Pro 2, which is a Diamond2 with keyboard
I'd definitely recommend the HTC phones over Nokia, more apps, more customisation.
Do you find phones hard to use? If so, buy a Nokia.
Want apps/modding? Buy HTC/WinMo.
Want apps/modding/open source? Buy Andriod...
Want loads of Apps and a great UI? Buy Apple
Simples!
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Do you find phones hard to use? If so, buy a Android or Iphone.
Want apps/modding? Buy HTC/WinMo.
Want less apps and modding as HTC but open source and easy UI? Buy Andriod...
Want loads of Apps and a great UI, but no modding ? Buy Iphone
Simples!
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fixed xD
well
easy said:
if ure a normal user, and DONT want to change or install (waste the time) to pimpUpYourPhone and dont want to learn how the software works-
then a Iphone or Android whould be the best for you. (they got basicly a very cool interface and good software incl.)
if ur a person who is more in experience with software and willing to learn it- i'd prefer to a HTC device... (if u knw how- u can install things on your HTC ; that makes the iphone and Android looking like a cheap LG phone )
Nokia N97 is kinda ....määäh.... a "bad quality" thing between.... its standart stuff is still usefull- but also "PimpAble" with serval software/apps
but much ppls are rly disapointed in quality of the device...
for that much money (prize) , u COULD imagine a better quality device...
ofc- android will increase its software / and apps in future
i think android will be together with WindowsMobile and Apple one of the leading devices in future.
may im gonna buy a android phone soon too.
but i think ill wait 1 or 2 years more- till theres enough software / posibilitys out for it...
the next few years will be hard and confuseing anyways for the software market on devices...
if TAT will come out in cooperation w/ developters... lol
www.tat.se
well see....
yep.
I'm anxious to know what you all think about the HTC Leo and the Nokia N900. Which of these two devices is a suitable repacement for our beloved Touch HD??
regards, Kuzibri
Leo........
ArtieQ said:
Leo........
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could you explain why?
kuzibri said:
could you explain why?
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I hate Nokia and love HTC?
ArtieQ said:
I hate Nokia and love HTC?
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not really an objective answer. I love HTC too, but the N900 isn't that bad. Why do you hate Nokia?
kuzibri said:
not really an objective answer. I love HTC too, but the N900 isn't that bad. Why do you hate Nokia?
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I hate Nokia because of Symbian OS.
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I hate Nokia because of Symbian OS.
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N900 is not Symbian but Maemo (Linux)
i am actualy considering the N900 , i love HTC as a company ,
but i am very dissapointed from the HTC speed .
and because of that , the Leo is a device with strong processor , and a very bad OS.
if he had the N900 OS , or android , that was nice .
anyway , N900 for me !
and someone should tell HTC to stop sell a good device with bad OS !
Leo looks as though it could be a great device, but Windows Mobile 6.5 is just really starting to show its age and bulkiness(slow even on a Snapdragon). HTC also gimped it by giving it a 65k screen - what's the point of having such a large screen if everything looks like crap on it?
I love my Touch HD, but compared to my friend's 3GS it doesn't have many strong points(and compared to the n900 it loses on all accounts). I'd still wait for more announcement concerning the Xperia X3 before making my final choice.
N900 is interesting but the "Landscape Only" is ugly... Linux OS makes it like PC and this is good but CPU/RAM/Battery moving it?
I have Touch HD and I don't think to buy Leo because no real improvements but not N900 too
I'm waiting for something in future
D'rath
I'm with you D'rath on this one as Archos just announced their 4.3 Inch Phone Tablet outfitted with a 1Ghz Hummingbird and android. February 2010 is going to be an interesting month for sure!
I'l be waiting for Tegra/WinMo 7 before i change my HD
when i saw the leo video review i decided to keep my hd leo camera still sucks only improvement is the processor but in the review it is not also so fast don't differ allot the only issue with hd is that it will not get wm6.5 officially when talking about memo5 in nokia n900 it has not allot of applications and not good support for games and applications
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...Archos just announced their 4.3 Inch Phone Tablet outfitted with a 1Ghz Hummingbird and android.
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Has it actually been announced or is it just more rumours?
If it's the former, do you have a link?
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HTC also gimped it by giving it a 65k screen - what's the point of having such a large screen if everything looks like crap on it?
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It was probably gimped because WM 6.5 only supports 65k colors... still.
The appeal of getting a enormous screen and a much faster processor in Leo is tempting. N900 is interesting, but being a completely new OS think it's best to wait and see. The X3 / SE Rachel also looks tasty, but again too few details to make it a sure-buy.
If nuerom can get overclocking working stablely on the MSM 720x devices I think I'll stay on HD for until end of next year at least
I got for the Leo, I will buy it when it hit the streets.
N900 is bulky compared to leo (because the hardward qwerty keyboard), Leo seems to be faster and more polished in the picture viewer and video playback. Not to mention the multitouch of Leo, wich can become a standard for WM7 and future high end devices.
So for leo:
+Multitouch
+4.3" screen
+I like touchflo
+I love TouchFlo3d
-Dont like WM 6.5 (perhaps with some tweking start menu can be set to work like 6.1,need to read further about this)
...and for Nokia:
+hardware qwerty
-Not symbian (how many aplicacions exist for that varely unused "new" os?)
-Not like the interface
I don't think I would spend that much money on a Htc Leo, and only get a litle faster, a bigger screen and multi touch. I would rather keep my HD, which can do almost anything that Leo can.
If i buy a new phone it has to be much better than the HD, the HD can do almost anything (with a leo rom, its even much better)
The N900 looks like a nice phone. A qwerty keyboard is nice, and I like on the first sight the new Linux os. But I will wait for a while till I get a new device.
n900 for me - I've had guts-full of winmo, and android just doesnt do it for me (dont really like the interface or the architecture tbh).
And btw to the people who say they 'love' these companies because of x, y or z - get real lol. the only time I can imagine someone loving a company is if they either work for that company and they are being paid to say it or they have developed some twisted form of Stockholm syndrome around their employer... if you don't fit into either of these categories, you are a fanboi idiot both are capitalist scumbag companies nearly as bad as apple they cant help it, its just how the world works.
as for the actual devices the n900 interests me greatly, being the smallest posix compliant device ever (afaik?). to 'tarded joe public that probably doesnt mean anything, but to a coder/geek its fantastic!
andriod imo is hacky and not very mmmm.. viable(?) for a range of application areas (e.g. video players?) - is it true that all the apps for android have to be written in java? for real? why?
to me, the n900 looks to be suffering from early run hw problems - these im told should be fixed in the 2nd and 3rd runs. as for the software, anything that is currently not working im very sure will be working very soon - simply due to the community around the device and the openness of the platform - this alone sets the n900 apart from everything else - including android (which although linux based, is very different) - a great example of this fact is the fmradio app (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/fmradio/).
if i've offended you with my opinion in this post, you may consider yourself offended - i don't care!
so, come January, ill be picking up an n900 its the only path of progression for me. btw, if im wrong on anything here please correct me.
my 2p (;
fusi
I know people complain about HTC all the time (myself included) but they do produce nice phones. My main concern is that they create new phones all the time with no real improvement between them. I think you'll find the next release (or 2-3 after) will be the device worth moving to from the HD.
Also, I'm addicted like many other to flashing (phones ), customizing and tweaking my HD as well as finding new fixes, helping others and constantly being online at XDA. If I was to get the N900 I would lose all this.....................
i'm moving at the moment from the touch pro 2 to n900. why? because as someone posted above im sick of sloweliness of my device (altough latest AthineOS was excellent )
im also a flashing n customizing addict, and on every single device from htc ive had, after installing mod's the OS was simply slowing down.. even changing the wallpaper was a pain in the a**(especially in Manila- u know what i mean ).
im not saying that htc is crap or something, but n900 seems to better fit my needs now.
Getting it in couple days n we'll se was it worth going back to nokia ( god save me from that filthy n sh*tty Symbian) or not.
Surely i'll be missing htc in some way
Goodday everybody,
I'm consider to buy the HTC HD2 or SE X2.
I have all ready the X1, what i most like is the keyboard.
Can you guy's tell me what the best choice is to buy!?
Greetings,
Rob
If you like a physical keyboard then why are you even considering an HD2? Stick with your X1, or buy a Touch Pro2, or consider a Samsung OmniaPRO B7610.
Thanks for the reply!
Yep you are true, but the X1 has for me to many faults in it.
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If you like a physical keyboard then why are you even considering an HD2? Stick with your X1, or buy a Touch Pro2, or consider a Samsung OmniaPRO B7610.
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Fully agree. I would go for the Samsung.
The X2 is and X1 with an "improved" camera and an upgrade to 6.5. Rest assured that all the faults you got in the X1 are gonna crop up in the X2. Look elsewhere.
I thought I was going to miss the keyboard too, but heck not at all.
Aren't you interested Motorola MILESTONE?
Thanks for all the reply's
I'm reading allot, but don't know jet, and the Motorola MILESTONE doesn't come to the Netherlands
I like the comparing with the Iphone but the X2 isn't compare with anyone.
Greets,
Rob
I moved from Xperia X1 to HTC-HD2
Keyboard on the big HD2 screen is good for me (but 1 year ago the keyboard of the X1 was one big reason to go for the X1)
I want to stick with the xda support
dingolino
Bobbe77NL said:
Goodday everybody,
I'm consider to buy the HTC HD2 or SE X2.
I have all ready the X1, what i most like is the keyboard.
Can you guy's tell me what the best choice is to buy!?
Greetings,
Rob
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I made the switch from x1 to HD2, id say go with the HD2! the x2 uses similar hardware to x1 which feels so slow and laggy compared to the HD2, sure you lose the hardware keyboard but it wasnt perfect to begin with and id usually pop the stylus out rather then slide the keyboard out because the rotation switch felt too slow
Here's a side by side: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1932&id2=1783
my friend
the X2 have the same SLOW CPU as the HTC DIAMOND
the X2 is a X1 with only some improvment
go for the samsung omniaPRO B7610
dont even think about the htc touch pro 2 its slow
i mean really slow cause of that CRAP processor
If you absolutely need a keyboard: Get the Samsung Omnia Pro B7610.
If you can live without a keyboard: Get the HTC HD2.
Do NOT buy the X2. It's got the same old, awfully slow processor that has been annoying us for years now. You seriously shouldn't spend money for a device based on that crappy Qualcomm MSM7xxx chipset.
If the keyboard is important to you I'd imagine you'd get annoyed with the HD2 pretty quickly, but it may be worth trying it out for the many other benefits, as if you don't like it, stick it on Ebay and you'll be able to get a Pro2 / Omnia pro / X2 / Milestone for the same money you get from the HD2 sale!
I've got a Pro2, and would highly recommend it if Keyboard is high on your priority list. As far as I know it's the best keyboard on a phone right now, and has the tilting screen too. I think I would miss it too much to get the HD2, but would not be against trying (About a year ago I tried an HD then loved the move back to my trusty Kaiser).
Also I doubt the X2 would be slow; contrary to the two posts above, the Pro2 is not slow. While clearly not as fast as an HD2, it's simply untrue to say the Pro2 is slow for general use. A snapdragon won't help an HD2 user type faster & more accurately than a Pro2 user
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.
Not possible, there are other threads on it if you search.
meirionwyllt said:
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.
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Hero may be a downgrade then, worse screen.
I had the diamond...
Hero with android is so much better
With 2.1 Rom.. it kills the HTC Diamond
i have had the Td2 and the hero and the hero wins easily!
meirionwyllt said:
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Old-Fashioned !
since there are (from the hardware specs point of view) great winmo phones, why would you want to go through the trouble of putting winmo on a hero? the hero is a great phone, but if you want winmo (god knows why...) just get a winmo phone, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
this is not bashing, this is asking why.
1. don't get the Hero if you're happy with windows mobile. no point.
2. get the Hero and forget about that crap.
ex owner of Diamond here
Sent from my Hero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
winmo is immposible to install on hero becasue of hardware and kernel ..
Why would you want to spoil your Hero by installing an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning? I used to have the TD - the Hero is just so much better for both hardware and software.
As others have said if you want to stick with WM there are plenty of HTC WM phones out there - get one of those instead of the Hero
buy a fake chinese hero which is identical to hero (I think - only saw it on a video) and has winmo 6.5 pro
Thanks for your answers.
The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it because of my old-fashioned nature and wanting to stick with MS. But then I thought of asking about the ROM just in case.
"an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning?" - I hope you are right, that MS are indeed abandoning it in favour of Windows Phone 7. I hope it's a complete re-write of the code, rather than what MS usually do and regenerate old code and put it into "new" OS's.
Thanks
I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.
Windows mobile 7 is completely new, but will not work on any existing handsets.
back to android.
Android is great, fully customisable and there is no reason not to love it.
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The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it .
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Exactly what happened with me - it was going on Ebay and I was keeping the TD, until I made one mistake and did this
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I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.
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One little play and I was hooked.
In use the capacitive screen is so much better - do not believe those who say it is a worse screen because it has less resolution. In fact ease of use of the screen is the one thing that I always envied iphone users for when I watched them swipe easily between screens without ever accidently switching on an app.
And Android, especially with HTC's SenseUI, is much better than WM. Because of the WM interface (which HTC did their best to hide) I used my TD mainly as a phone and did not get the best out of it because of that. Now I use my Hero for a lot more. And I have not missed my old stylus one bit - I just let my fingers do the walking.
Let us know how you get on with your little play - try the market and see how easy it is to get all sorts of weird and wonderful apps that you never realised you needed, but you will find indispensible once you've got them. I bet you will be androided.