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Few annoying problems

I am using DCD's 3.0.4 wm 6.1 rom. I only have sbp pocketplus and a third part digital clock installed on the today screen. Also only have s2u2 and touchflo starting up on the phone. For some reason the phone randomly locks up on a softreset, all I can do is turn the phone on or off from that point. I must softreset again to get the phone to function correctly.
The second problem I am having is I do not have a data plan and for some reason my phone keeps trying to connect to the internet. This just started happening yesterday randomly. I have put in a username for the data connection so it cannot automatically log in and charge up data on my bill. But every month somehow I have about $5 of data used. Is there any way to completely turn off data on this phone.
Thanks in advance!

don't worry, if you have sprint, your maxiumim inet fee wll be $75 lol. I have unlimited, but they apparently canceled that for a few days and i got the max charge of inet usage of $75, that's how I know about the price.
It's probably the SPB suit you're using. For example, I run one that has the weather. In order to update the weather, it connects to the inet. That could be the reason it's doing so. Otherwise, none of my SPB programs i run connect automatically that i am aware of.
It could also be something built into the rom, but i doubt it.
Search the tweeks sections for disabling the inet. I know there is a program that limits your inet time for this reason. You could set it to 1 second, since you are billed by KB not time.

Counterfeit7485 said:
The second problem I am having is I do not have a data plan and for some reason my phone keeps trying to connect to the internet. This just started happening yesterday randomly. I have put in a username for the data connection so it cannot automatically log in and charge up data on my bill. But every month somehow I have about $5 of data used. Is there any way to completely turn off data on this phone.
Thanks in advance!
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I just recently got a data plan, even though I had the phone since September. I recommend calling Sprint (or whatever carrier you have) and requesting that they put a block on the data connection. If they do it right, then it will disable the data usage. If not, they will at least flag your account so that you can demand a reimbursement (which is what I did every month because they had trouble doing it right). The other thing you can do is go to start\settings\connections\connections\manage existing connections and then delete the Sprint PCS #777 connection by clicking and holding it. That will fix the problem until u do a hard reset.

Rom Update --> Data Call Failure Error

I have the xv6800 and I'm on Verizon. I just updated my rom to 3.57.605.1 from Verizon's website.
After *228 I was able to make calls, but now I have this persistent error:
Data Call Failure
Error Code: 11
PPP Connection Error
I do not have a data plan and dont want one. I only use wi-fi. This popup is annoying.
Can somebody tell me how to kill it, or how to fix whatever is wrong? What on my phone is trying to use the data connection so I can disable it?
Verizon tech support was useless.

holy cow, go this too! what is this about?
Just flashed my new xv6900 today. everything is working, i believe...but keep getting this ppp error.
Any resolution on your end?

Nothing. I imagine we're some of the first people to go through this.
A week or two ago, Verizon issued a statement saying all new customers with pda phones as of November (not sure exact day) will be REQUIRED to purchase a data plan.
I think the *228 process is now going to verify a data plan on pda phones and since I dont have one, I'm stuck with the error. Either that or my phone cannot properly "handshake" with Verizon since I dont have the plan.
I was on the phone with support for 2 hours last night. They're useless. We even tried giving me a data plan long enough to let the phone sync with the server, but this morning I got the error again.
I'm sure someone can find a registry edit to get rid of the message. I think that would be enough for me. My only concern, is if my phone is persistently trying to establish that data call, it'll eat my already-weak battery up in no time.
That is why I'd prefer a solution to disable the whole thing. I'm still waiting on the kind people here at XDA. These guys know more about Vz's phones than they do.
In "connections" I deleted the Verizon data network connection, but it comes right back. I wonder if that was not there before the rom update and maybe that is what's trying to call out?

I had such good luck cook'n my 6700 but this 6900 is not so fun.
My message has gone away after about 10 minutes after the programming. even knowing i could do txtmsg and call on my phone i could not get into voicemail, it stated i could not be verifed...so I think it just needed some more time. i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
but now I have to flash again...more problems.
FYI: i do have a dataplan...

I was right about the battery problems at least.
My phone finished charging at 3:00 pm and sat on my desk (no calls or use) until 8:00 pm when I got an emergency low battery notification.
Whatever my phone is doing is blowing through battery life.

Sounds like normal life for a wm phone with the data turned on!
Must be looking and burning power just like roam does.

DMU RESET
According to the Verizon 3rd tier people I was speaking with last night they simply need to do a DMU reset on your account and phone. This is where they rebuild the account on their servers but first level tech support will never be allowed to help you here. This was done for me after the *228, *22899, *832, and many many other attempts at reconnecting my phone.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for letting me know! I was starting to think I wasnt going to get any help. I'm calling Vz tomorrow.

I called Vz tonight and they said there was no such thing as 3rd tier support.
He said DMU would only help if I had a data plan and I wanted to re-establish my data plan. I want to permanently disable my data entirely. Were you doing the same thing?
Either way they couldnt help me. If your issue was the same as mine, let me know and I'll call back and push them harder.

adampeoples said:
I have the xv6800 and I'm on Verizon. I just updated my rom to 3.57.605.1 from Verizon's website.
After *228 I was able to make calls, but now I have this persistent error:
Data Call Failure
Error Code: 11
PPP Connection Error
I do not have a data plan and dont want one. I only use wi-fi. This popup is annoying.
Can somebody tell me how to kill it, or how to fix whatever is wrong? What on my phone is trying to use the data connection so I can disable it?
Verizon tech support was useless.
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I too have the Same Issue Any help?
Bump for help.
from howard fourms "http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=10377230#post10377230"
"Once gone from there, I deleted the connections under settings/connections/connections/mange existing connections and they've never reappeared since. So now I just create a new connection when I need it, and delete it when I'm done. It keeps me from going over my limit ($25 data plan). "
Deleted the connection and the issue is gone. FYI

This is my first contribution to xda-forums! I'm glad I can help at all when I've benefitted so much... Thanks to all!
NOTE: After the following steps, Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably will want to use Nodata, and NOT the following solution. You just might have to open Nodata and disable the data connection every time you soft-reset.
I was finally able to completely 100% block the 3g data connection on my Verizon XV6800 (aka Mogul aka Titan) was the following three steps:
1. The key culprit is HTC_CM_Guardian.exe in the windows directory. I couldn't edit it or delete it via Total Commander file explorer, but I was able to rename it! This makes the OS unable to find the program when it tries to re-set the Data connection settings.
2. Under Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Select which networks are automatically used," hit "Select Networks."
3. Under "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" hit "New...".
4. Enter any name you want (mine's "nodata!") and leave all the other settings blank.
5. Save and exit! Voila!
Wifi--yes; 3g--no!
Modaco's Nodata program is awesome, but the problem was that HTC_CM_Guardian.exe re-enabled the data connection every time I reset the phone. Plus, HTC_CM_Guardian.exe would also thwart any effort to block data via the "Connection Settings." By renaming HTC_CM_Guardian.exe and creating a "nodata!" connection that programs auto-connecting to the internet would try to use (and fail), we get three results:
1. Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably won't to use this solution.
2. When you reboot, the OS is unable to mess-up your "Connection Settings", so
3. Unless you have an active wifi connection, programs will try to connect to the Internet using the "nodata!" settings, which, being empty, will fail, exactly as planned.
Hope it helps.

Avoiding Data Charges

My wife and I are going to Europe for a month this summer and we would like to bring our phones to use as portable wifi devices. What is the best way to guarantee that we get no data/text messaging/phone charges?
Ideally we could just remove the sim card but I heard you can't use the device when you do this (even for wifi). Is this true even if we have sim unlocked the device? Do we have to install ADP1 for this trip to do this?
I also read that we could change the APN to something invalid and that would prevent data charges but what if someone text messages us?
Thanks

As long as your device is activated, as in you are not prompted to sign into your Google account when you turn on the phone, you will be fine. Just take the SIM out of the phone when you arrive.

you could always disable the radios. There are ways to turn off cell radios and leave wifi or even turn of data all together but leave the cell radio on.

Rekna said:
My wife and I are going to Europe for a month this summer and we would like to bring our phones to use as portable wifi devices. What is the best way to guarantee that we get no data/text messaging/phone charges?
Ideally we could just remove the sim card but I heard you can't use the device when you do this (even for wifi). Is this true even if we have sim unlocked the device? Do we have to install ADP1 for this trip to do this?
I also read that we could change the APN to something invalid and that would prevent data charges but what if someone text messages us?
Thanks
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There's an app on the market that lets you disable/enable your APN settings with a simple tap or two. Search for APN.

it is called APNDroid, its brilliant! Really easy to use. One click to disable APN's, click again to re-enable them!

I'm on prepaid right now so I'm trying to not use data at all. However, even with apndroid and turning off all 3g/data, I was still losing money in my prepaid account. The only thing that I could do to stop the random charges is to uninstall any apps that require internet access (last.fm, skype, etc).
Just a warning for anyone travelling - it looks like 3rd party apps can access data even if you disable it on the g1. You can google reports of people getting charged crazy amounts of roaming data charges even after turning off their data.

I had problem last month where i unlocked my g1 to use with the 3 network, worked great and i was very happy. I did not realise however that the g1 was for whatever reason using the 3g internet rather than my wifi, for some reason or another it continuously was charging me for data i thought i was getting form my wifi! over £100 the g1 cost me in that little incident.
My advice to you is either take out your sim or use the apn blocker. I would not even put your sim in when in another country!

Does anyone see any fault in this plan of mine to avoid data charges after buying the phone (I'm going to get it today or tomorrow).
The phone is already unlocked.
1) Borrow my friend's sim with a data plan. and register phone
2) Do not fill in correct APN info upon setup (so I can't be charged data)
3) Put in my sim
4) Spend 10 hours reading these forums and trying to install custom firmware/tinkering with the phone etc.
5) Download APNdroid, run it 24/7, then enjoy my dataless phone while I browse wifi all night downloading cool apps and tweaking my phone.

Sorry this is a bit later but for anyone who is looking for an asnwere to this i found one -
Here is how you turn off data service on your G1:
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1. Use Anycut to create a shortcut to "Testing"
2. Click on Testing.
3. Click on Phone Information
4. Hit Menu button
5. Click on More
6. Click on Disable data connection
This turns off all data access. Note that GPRS service switches to "disconnected".
Now you should have a phone that does voice calls, but no data access.
Wi-fi still works which is great.

try txtFeeder.com to avoid data charges
I am not sure what your planning doing with your phone, but you should try txtFeeder.com - a free mobile feed aggregator to avoid data charges. It'll let you keep up with news, weather, or whatever site you normally read, on your mobile, without paying data charges. it works really well.

try txtFeeder.com to avoid data charges
I am not sure what your planning doing with your phone, but you should try txtFeeder.com - a free mobile feed aggregator to avoid data charges. It'll let you keep up with news, weather, or whatever site you normally read, on your mobile, without paying data charges. it works really well.

Data sessions - how to keep them open

Hi,
I don't have a data plan and I pay by data sessions. Each session is up to 100kb but when I look at my bill I get loads of sessions with just a few bytes even within the short time of a minute. I assume the G1 opens a session and closes it when no data is transferred to safe power. The network then interprets this as a new connection and doesn't "fil up" the last 100kb session. This sucks as I waste quite a bit of money and I'm currently looking for a way to avoid this. Apparently running a messenger in the background doesn't do the trick. Any other suggestions?

Certian apps and widget as well as the market run in the backround and use data. Go to settings then data synchronization and un check the 1st box that says backround data that might help a bit

Thanks, I didn't mention one thing: I usually deactivate my data connection (APNdroid) when I don't need it.But when I do I get this odd behaviour for example when I'm just browsing the web.(other stuff in the background deactivated)

smh
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please show respect to other members on this forum.....READ THE FORUM RULES BEFORE YOU POST AGAIN

stop
razzledazle said:
Stop being cheap and pay $24.99 for a data plan dumb*ss. Why would you buy the ferrari and can't afford the gas. How dumb is that
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cut that out. thats no way to talk to a fellow xda member. u might wanna edit that b4 a mod sees that becuase you could get banned for that.

Uninstall all apps and don't synchronize data. That would be your best bet, but even at that I think it is going to still have several short data sessions. You could also disable data via apn's and only enable them when you are using the phone for data.
I would highly suggest getting a data plan however. My last pda phone I didn't have a data plan and only used wifi. It was such a hassle and I would have been better off with just a basic phone than spending so much time to avoid data charges.

@razzledazle, ... it wasn't very helpful. Anyway I'm not in the US so I wouldn't get this offer anyway.
The problem I'm having is that even though I only activate the data connection when I use it, the sessions are very short and I still end up paying much more than I should. I'd like to find a way to keep the session alive till I deactivate 3g again.

Push
Still didn't find a solution myself. On a nokia, keeping the browser open does the job and keeps the session alive... but on the G1 it doesn't.

Running all your data through a VPN should do it, that way you are using a single connection that remains open.

Download droid wall from this forum and use the whitelist mode it might help you out a bit as only things you want will open a connection

data roaming

Hi,
I've been using the HD2 for a couple of months now. Love the phone, esp after installing some of the cool tweaks from this forum.
i've also been reading about the tweak to stop data access, particularly when overseas, so as not to incur high data roaming charges. I tried to install one such cab but it slowed down the phone a lot and I finally uninstalled it.
My questions is this :
1. If I just wanted to use the phone to make calls and send sms (using 3G network) while I'm overseas, if I disable the auto update features in Weather, Stocks and Twitter, will the phone still access data automatically when data services is detected while I'm overseas ? What else should I disable or set to use the phone just for calls and texting ? I suppose i should not read MMS while overseas as well since it will incur internet charges.
2. What about disabling internet access ? how can i do that ?
3. I understand that if I see the 'H' sign at the top of the phone where the '3G' sign is, it does not mean that there is data access (it just mean that HSPA is avail). there is data access only when there is double arrow sign. is this understanding correct ?
Sorry for asking so many fundamental questions.
thanks
Ng