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Can anyone confirm if BBCiPlayer is compatible with Opera 9.5.
I'm a Nokia n95 8gb user, soon to return to WM when Expansys deliver my early Christmas/late birthday present.
Wouldnt it be soo cool to watch bbc iplayer on this baby!!
Same Here
I am returning back to my WM. I had an iPhone, used for two weeks but did not like it, too complicated, so gone for sale.. now I am returning to my WM and just order my new Touch HD from expansys today. Window mobile are much easy to use and simply the best. I like to see HTC add more useful features on this new Touch HD before final release.
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Thats great. I hope you don't have to wait too long being you just preordered recently.
I know many at xda-dev forum ( including myself ) and elsewhere have been on that one form of preordering list since the phone was made official.
I hope Expansys don't keep everyone waiting too long after they get stock.
not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?
thefunkygibbon said:
not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?
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Yes. I Second that. iPlayer is as much a killer app to me as youtube.
Am I the only one who is keen to use their mobile to watch the BEEB ?
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Yeah I'm massive I Player fan. I used to listen to 5Live every morning in the bathroom with my Wizard and Wifi. I think the Beeb changed something as it suddenly stopped working with Realplayer 1.
I am surprised its taking this long to get a solution for WM for I player. I have just moved to a Diamond and will move to a Touch HD later next year.
I hope anyone doing searches for IPhone apps comes across our discussions about an I-Player... !
I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.
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strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.
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Just reviewing stock status across a number of suppliers - seems the release date in the UK has been brought forward to the 7th November - maybe even sooner! Both Play and Expansys have revised "ready to ship" dates?
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I have spoken to a friend at orange who says they have sHD stock arriving today for sale on Monday 3rd. He has be saying this all week and is a very reliable source.
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Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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I have a HD on order from Handtec.com and should have it on the 12th (or earlier) - I already have the Raphael and have been testing on a regular basis with Opera 9.5 and the latest Flash release - there was some improvement but its still not actually showing the streaming video?
As far as I'm aware there is still no i-Player codec for either Core Player or Windows Media Player. I think that the issue is one for the BBC to resolve rather than a hardware problem (i.e. once it works it will work on all Win Mob Pro phones that can show video?)
So..... unless HTC have a new Opera version just for the HD (Possible) or have negotiated with the BBC (As Apple have - Unlikely???) to allow the content only on the HD then I think we'll have to wait for the BBC (Aunty for the older Brits on here) to step up and provide either a codec or dedicated mobile player?
Hope my thoughts provide some help and guidance - and maybe spark some more debate?
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I've been trying for some hours today to get the streams from BBC Mobile working with little success.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/index.shtml
If I look at BBC mobile on my X7500 using explorer there is a link showing "Watch Live TV" I can then click on a channel which downloads a link and then launches Coreplayer which immediately complains that it can't do anything with it.
Anybody else had any joy?
Cheers
Matthew
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?
SingaporeAirlines said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?
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My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????
SlashGear.com mentions content from the BBC iPlayer.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-video-demo-and-qa-3121040/
"Q. Can the Touch HD’s Opera browser play content from BBC iPlayer, Hulu or other streaming sites?
A. No. For instance, the iPlayer site loadsbut the streaming video component does not. There is a streaming video app, separate from the YouTube player, but that requires a specific url to load".
Jezwick said:
My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????
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Oh of course - BBC NEWS 24 is a UK only channel as it's paid by us TV License payers. And no one in the UK on this forum seems to have the Touch HD so it wouldn't work.
D'oh !
I think it's just a matter of time before BBC iPlayer works on the Touch HD. They have expanded support for many smartphones and PMP's.
The issue from the BBC's point of view is simply demand - making Iplayer available for platforms like the ipod touch and Iphone is a no brainer since there are huge numbers of those devices in the UK, and their users are very much focussed on video and multimedia. With Windows Mobile the case isn't quite so clear - its users are in much smaller numbers for one, and many - perhaps the greater majority - are simply business users with no desire to watch TV on their mobile, and quite possibly inadequate hardware for the task in any case (since the vast majority of WinMo handsets are not high resolution, big screen devices like the HD). Realistically, the HD alone is not going to significantly advance the cause.
While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.
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While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.
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Sure, but they have to protect their copyright first and foremost - and ensure it's only license fee payers in the UK who get the benefit - so whatever platforms they support can't be too open.
What keeps this Flash 9 game from running?
http://adamatomic.com/canabalt/
7 and 9 are different builds.
I believe that most developers have compiled the Adobe Flash Player 7 into their ROM ports. Google and Adobe have been working together in creating the Flash Player 10 Mobile - which is set to be released for BETA testing sometime in Q4 of this year. I would assume between Oct. & Nov. (simply because there are numerous major releases of phones and mobile technology in that specific time frame)
Look into that. I'm not too familiar with various HERO ports. I've only flashed three HERO ROM ports. (32B)
Good luck.
Interesting. I was under the impession that Hero came with that Flast 10 Mobile right out of the box, one of the big features. However, I do a good amount of browsing on it and I see far more flash content that doesnt work than does. So you may be correct.
I'll dig around and see what I come up with. That particular game requires Flash 9 I believe.
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Looks like it's Flash 10 on the Hero roms, many articles on engadget about it:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/new-htc-hero-rom-leaked-flash-10-already-chugging-along-on-a-fe/
but the real treat here is the first implementation of Flash 10 on Android,
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http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pre...09AdobeandHTCBringFlashPlatformtoAndroid.html
Adobe Flash is an important core technology for people interacting and experiencing the Web, it is only natural to be offering it on the new HTC Hero first,” said John Wang, chief marketing officer, HTC Corporation. “We look forward to continuing our close collaboration with Adobe and to bringing Flash Player 10 support to our phones in the future.”
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That's hTC, huh?
So much for innovation being their priority or standard to go by, huh?
But yes, as you stated previously - the HTC HERO was said to be packaged stock with the Flash Player 10...however, that is certainly not the case.
Keep me posted, I'm interested in seeing what you manage to dig up. That's something I actually wondered the first time I began flashing HERO ports. I believe that developers settle for an "optimized" build of the Flash Player from Adobe so it can be utilized, but not necessarily to it's full potential. Who knows?
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Curious? That doesn't make any sense considering Flash Player 9 should be subsidized within the obviously updated version, not to mention have some form of basic backwards compatibility. But again, it could be that various HERO ports support that build of the Flash Player (i.e. - 10, not 7, 9, etc.) while others might have been stocked with a lesser version of the build to USE LESS MEMORY or resources while loading. Good find.
I found a site that displays your flash information. On my pc it says Win 10,0,22,87. On my MyHero rom it says AFL 9,1,122,0.
According to that I should at least be able to get some 9.0 action.
Good post.
pcm2a said:
I found a site that displays your flash information. On my pc it says Win 10,0,22,87. On my MyHero rom it says AFL 9,1,122,0.
According to that I should at least be able to get some 9.0 action.
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Good looking out man. Always appreciated.
This used to be a hot topic at one point in time. It has lost its luster.
Thanks though.
My mates iphone can go to this site and stream tv in good quality. In case you havnt seen/heard of it yet...its proper uk tv not those ****ty internet streams that have...lets be honest nothing on ever!
Any ideas?
http://www.tvcatchup.com/
(TVCatchup has channels like bbc, bb2, bb3, itv, c4, e4 etc)
seems like skyfire is the only solution just now (just read some some hd2 users saying it works well with wifi)
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seems like skyfire is the only solution just now (just read some some hd2 users saying it works well with wifi)
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I am playing it on my HD2 using Skyfire over 3G and even though is is straight from the website, the picture is not that bad ;-D
just seen your post man, Im still struggling to get this working. It "does play" in skyfire...but wow it is buggy as hell. Even over wifi (on my new hd2 )
It plays 100% on my mates gheyphone...which winds me up a little haha
I have nrgs rom installed which uses opera 10...but i read that you can use opera 9.7 with a flash fix...I wonder if that will make tvcatchup work with with opera rather than skyfire?
AAARRRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGH
btw, sign up to the forum and show intrested in a windows mobile support/app
the more the better!
SPB TV, bro.
i seen that and another mobitv...but they seem to have the worst selection of tv channels
the weather
news
the wether
more news
some weather
are they any good? have you checked out tvcatchup...got it working on skyfire via wifi...3g is no use (at least in my area). it seems they made a specific app/page for iphone users...the stream is prob tailored to their device/resolution...half the size of the hd2 (?) so it will look/stream a lot better over 3g (or at least this is what i think?)
Tv catchup
May i suggest to all of you to forgrt Tvcatchup
try
www.yamgo.com
is best
tv catchup people dont like windows mobile thats why they have made it for iphone
Thankyou! Yamgo is brilliant! Far far better than TVcatchup
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Thankyou! Yamgo is brilliant! Far far better than TVcatchup
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As one of the Admin of TVCatchup let's face the facts:
http://m.tvcatchup.com/ has 28 freeview channels, for most phones including Windows Mobile 6.0 + Yamgo has 4.
Yamgo's quality is like watching something from the 60's, that is allowing for bandwidth problems as well. TVC has it's own optimised page offering low and high quality options.
Yamgo spam everything and make false twitter and facebook accounts and generally pee off everyone. We never spam and have built our membership by word of mouth and reputation.
We have open and free help forums that deal with issues right away, I once sent a support email to Yamgo and got a response four days later.
Sounds petty I know but we are trying to provide a service par excellence and of course I am biased, but it peeves you off with shafters like this.
Rant over !
Just wondering, where does this come from? I've seen this in multiple threads now, but have never seen any official source?
I read this somewhere on a reputable blog can't remember which one. That is why it is still beta apparently.
Adobe hasn't pulled the trigger on tapping into the hardware yet.
semi related question but I don't feel like creating a thread for that : Is Flash included in the FroYo update ? I thought it would but I just installed Paul's pre-rooted FroYo update, and I don't seem to have flash :-/
It is not included. But it is supported. Go to the market and search for it. Then download it.
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Adobe hasn't pulled the trigger on tapping into the hardware yet.
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Can you link where this was posted?
Again, I've heard this so many times now, but I've yet to see where this information is coming from!
I've mostly heard it from interviews with adobe people, and presentations of the beta from months ago.
A quick search brought this first link up.
That might change with the formal launch of Android 2.2, when handset manufacturers use hardware decoding for Flash. In the beta, it's done through software.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?&entry_id=64059
Even on computers, flash isn't tapping into hardware. It's the reason people hate flash. It's a huge resource hog as it calls on too much ram and cpu instead of asking for the graphics side of the computer.
Yup, that's what I read. Beta = software only.
Oh thanks Markdental, got it ^^
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I've mostly heard it from interviews with adobe people, and presentations of the beta from months ago.
A quick search brought this first link up.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?&entry_id=64059
Even on computers, flash isn't tapping into hardware. It's the reason people hate flash. It's a huge resource hog as it calls on too much ram and cpu instead of asking for the graphics side of the computer.
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Hmm, not exactly official...
Did Adobe (or Google) ever say it themselves?
OR is there a way for us to determine this ourselves?
Flash has always been based on software, on any platform.
10.1 is supposed to bring relief to computers, phones, laptops and netbooks alike. The beta is still based on software. The end goal of 10.1 is to have it hook into hardware, but that hasn't happened yet.
JCopernicus said:
Flash has always been based on software, on any platform.
10.1 is supposed to bring relief to computers, phones, laptops and netbooks alike. The beta is still based on software. The end goal of 10.1 is to have it hook into hardware, but that hasn't happened yet.
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I think Paul is just looking for some proof that this is the case. Not just more people saying the same thing.
In the release notes (new user, cant link) it says:
H.264 video hardware decoding
Flash Player 10.1 introduces hardware-based H.264 video decoding to deliver smooth, high quality video with minimal overhead across mobile devices and PCs. Using available hardware to decode video offloads tasks from the CPU, improving video playback performance, reducing system resource utilization, and preserving battery life.
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but under Known Issues it says
Flash on Android supports software decoding for all the same H.264 profiles as Flash on the desktop, and uses the hardware decoder for videos using H.264 Baseline Profile and Level <= 3.2.
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which makes me believe that GPU acceleration is in place, but not for that many videos yet.
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In the release notes (new user, cant link) it says:
but under Known Issues it says
which makes me believe that GPU acceleration is in place, but not for that many videos yet.
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Hmm if so..what sites or video player would be H.264 based?
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I think Paul is just looking for some proof that this is the case. Not just more people saying the same thing.
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Sure I guess, but all that stuff is based on engineers and employees displaying the betas.
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I think Paul is just looking for some proof that this is the case. Not just more people saying the same thing.
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Yes! Exactly.
F-Forward said:
In the release notes (new user, cant link) it says:
but under Known Issues it says
which makes me believe that GPU acceleration is in place, but not for that many videos yet.
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You can always just remove the http://www. part to provide a text link.
Anyway, found it: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player_10.1_for_Android
As you said "Flash on Android supports software decoding for all the same H.264 profiles as Flash on the desktop, and uses the hardware decoder for videos using H.264 Baseline Profile and Level <= 3.2."
So... Wouldn't that be proof right there that Flash on Android already *DOES* support hardware decoding?
Engadget states that; "according to Adobe, the pre-release beta they have doesn't support hardware acceleration" - unless they are using a different beta, there currently is no hardware acceleration in the version of Flash we are currently using.
http://i.engadget.com/2010/05/20/android-2-2-froyo-beta-hands-on-flash-10-1-wifi-hotspots-an/
There is an official statement from Adobe that the final version will be hardware accelerated using the H.264 codec. This does reqiure websites to update their flash content to support the mobile version... however some sites won't if they already use H.264 for their video encoding in their flash. Games are the big one that will need to be updated and optimized.
I am at work, so can't really search too much for it, I am limited to only a handful of phone websites, with my phone I can find info, but copying over a link is a lot of work.
pjcforpres said:
There is an official statement from Adobe that the final version will be hardware accelerated using the H.264 codec. This does reqiure websites to update their flash content to support the mobile version... however some sites won't if they already use H.264 for their video encoding in their flash. Games are the big one that will need to be updated and optimized.
I am at work, so can't really search too much for it, I am limited to only a handful of phone websites, with my phone I can find info, but copying over a link is a lot of work.
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Any idea which site it was?
And work on a Sunday! Boo. Also, a neat trick: open up the Gmail app, hit compose, paste whatever you want, and save as draft. Boom, now it's in Gmail on your desktop. Great way to transfer data back and forth easily.
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Any idea which site it was?
And work on a Sunday! Boo. Also, a neat trick: open up the Gmail app, hit compose, paste whatever you want, and save as draft. Boom, now it's in Gmail on your desktop. Great way to transfer data back and forth easily.
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I can't login to my gmail at work, though. I guess I could post it with my phone, but to be honest a little too lazy.
It was on Adobe's website, and there were a couple news articles about it as well...
http://www.24worldnews.com/adobe-flash-10-1-for-android/14512/
I hope that works for you for now, it should be a news brief of the Adobe announcement.
Hello everyone. First off, be clear of one thing: FLASH will not work on our phones even when Froyo is out. Flash was an improvement in Froyo, but it is not going to be in all phones just because they have Froyo..
I see a lot of people complaining that the Froyo releases of the Galaxy 3 do not have Flash 10.1. I opened this topic to inform everyone who doesn't know that Flash is currently only supported on ARMv7 processors, namely the ARM Cortex A8 processors.
The Galaxy 3 has an ARMv6 processor, which is not currently supported by Flash. Adobe has mentioned that Flash might be supported on lower end processors in the near future, but right now it can only run on phones having an ARM Cortex A8 processor.
So right now, Flash is a no-go on our phone, even when the final Froyo update is released.
You can check the requirements for Flash on the following link:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/systemreqs/#mobile
Also, check out this link which mentions that ARM might be supported on ARM11 (ARMv6) devices in the future:
http://androidandme.com/2010/08/news/flash-player-10-1-could-appear-on-some-arm11-devices/
For those who wonder why the HTC phones have Flash, just found out that the Flash Player on HTC has been developed by HTC themselves. It is not the actual Adobe Flash Player 10.1..
So we can only hope that until final FROYO relese Adobe will mode Flash to work on our hardware
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So we can only hope that until final FROYO relese Adobe will mode Flash to work on our hardware
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Not likely. Adobe has said they might make it work on these processors, but it surely isn't at the top of their agenda right now.
But on the other side, if We ask at loud and if we do it in weaves, they will change their mind and support our hardware
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Not likely. Adobe has said they might make it work on these processors, but it surely isn't at the top of their agenda right now.
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Where did you get this information from?
This is crucial, especially to the people in countries, where this phone has been released for sale recently, such as India. The biggest selling point of this phone, has been the technical ability to upgrade from Eclair to Froyo, as such, the importance of Flash cannot be underestimated. Whilst there are many owners who are not too bothered about this, the vast majority have assumed that purchase of the Apollo, would mean, for their internet phone usage, a very much improved experience, mirroring , albeit on a small scale, a view familiar to the desktop computer.
I hope you may be wrong. Samsung should clarify this, before many others spend too much money.
workaround
Where do you want to use flash ?
a) WEB:
Because you can use SKYFIRE which converts at their servers flash to html5 and you can watch converted flash video at your mobile
b) SD card applications:
I had on my XPERIA X1 (which has slower CPU) flash player and many many flash games. It was working without any lags.
c) what if you install flash player 10 like 3th party application ?
d) do you want to launch complicated Flash www pages at your mobile ? With this stupid resolution ? I think that:
- it has no sense (I hate to read anythink on this display)
- sooner or later the pages will be converted to html5 and we will be able to have them.
So please for what reason do you need flash ?
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Where do you want to use flash ?
a) WEB:
Because you can use SKYFIRE which converts at their servers flash to html5 and you can watch converted flash video at your mobile
b) SD card applications:
I had on my XPERIA X1 (which has slower CPU) flash player and many many flash games. It was working without any lags.
c) what if you install flash player 10 like 3th party application ?
d) do you want to launch complicated Flash www pages at your mobile ? With this stupid resolution ? I think that:
- it has no sense (I hate to read anythink on this display)
- sooner or later the pages will be converted to html5 and we will be able to have them.
So please for what reason do you need flash ?
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Live score updates would be one feature I use on a regular basis. Many sites require Flash to be viewed properly, and Skyfire is somewhat limited in being able to do so.
The resolution of the phone is a factor, but with many video presentations and live transmissions in the 320/240 mode, the Apollo is more than capable of being able to used for displaying web video. LaolaTV, TVU networks, and Justin TV are examples of this.
An otherwise very capable phone, I would just like to squeeze a bit more of it's potential.
The main requirement of flash is a VFPU(vector floating point unit).it is a physical device that should be present in the chip for flash to work.the older arm processors(arm1136) does not support it(thats why adobe said they wont support older processors). Our processor(arm1176) supports it but it is optional.so it all depends on whether samsung implemnted vfpu in this chip. Considering what they did with 3d graphics my hopes are pretty low.
Flash isnt essential but it would have been nice to have it.i didnt know about these things before i bought the phone.but considering the fact that no device. Anywhere near this price range supports it,i am happy with the phone.
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Where did you get this information from?
This is crucial, especially to the people in countries, where this phone has been released for sale recently, such as India. The biggest selling point of this phone, has been the technical ability to upgrade from Eclair to Froyo, as such, the importance of Flash cannot be underestimated. Whilst there are many owners who are not too bothered about this, the vast majority have assumed that purchase of the Apollo, would mean, for their internet phone usage, a very much improved experience, mirroring , albeit on a small scale, a view familiar to the desktop computer.
I hope you may be wrong. Samsung should clarify this, before many others spend too much money.
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Check out this site:
"androidandme.com/2010/08/news/flash-player-10-1-could-appear-on-some-arm11-devices/"
ARM11 is ARMv6, which is there in our phones. So right now it's not gonna work in our phones.
Also check out these mobile system requirements mentioned on Adobe's site:
"adobe.com/products/flashplayer/systemreqs/#mobile"
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Live score updates would be one feature I use on a regular basis. Many sites require Flash to be viewed properly, and Skyfire is somewhat limited in being able to do so.
The resolution of the phone is a factor, but with many video presentations and live transmissions in the 320/240 mode, the Apollo is more than capable of being able to used for displaying web video. LaolaTV, TVU networks, and Justin TV are examples of this.
An otherwise very capable phone, I would just like to squeeze a bit more of it's potential.
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I agree, also SPB TV works or Orange streaming TV (for orange customers), without any problem. I think that it's pricing policy - producers don't want to squeeze the maximum from the cheap phones.
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I agree, also SPB TV works or Orange streaming TV (for orange customers), without any problem. I think that it's pricing policy - producers don't want to squeeze the maximum from the cheap phones.
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As Adobe releases Flash for free, it doesn't really matter to them if it's used in cheap or costly phones. The ARMv6 processor is not necessarily used only in cheap phones. Rendering Flash content is a processor intensive job, so it is not an easy job to port it to lower end processors.
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As Adobe releases Flash for free, it doesn't really matter to them if it's used in cheap or costly phones. The ARMv6 processor is not necessarily used only in cheap phones. Rendering Flash content is a processor intensive job, so it is not an easy job to port it to lower end processors.
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and HTC wildfire ? I din't mean this no motivation for Adobe but for Samsung to support the cheaper phone. They just implement some widgets, youtube as a start, but later they do not care about old models.
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and HTC wildfire ? I din't mean this no motivation for Adobe but for Samsung to support the cheaper phone. They just implement some widgets, youtube as a start, but later they do not care about old models.
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HTC has been giving Flash support for their Eclair phones, but it doesn't work that great. If you check the Wildfire review on GSMArena, Flash has trouble playing videos on all sites, and only simple games run nicely.
Flash can run on ARMv6 processors, but it hasn't been developed properly for it yet. And no one except HTC gives support for Flash in their Eclair running phones, so it's not only Samsung's fault. Plus, even Samsung gave Flash on the high-end Galaxy S AFTER it was upgraded to Froyo.
Let's see, it's bound to come out for ARMv6 processors sometime, as budget Android phones are only gonna increase in popularity.
U are right
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Where did you get this information from?
This is crucial, especially to the people in countries, where this phone has been released for sale recently, such as India. The biggest selling point of this phone, has been the technical ability to upgrade from Eclair to Froyo, as such, the importance of Flash cannot be underestimated. Whilst there are many owners who are not too bothered about this, the vast majority have assumed that purchase of the Apollo, would mean, for their internet phone usage, a very much improved experience, mirroring , albeit on a small scale, a view familiar to the desktop computer.
I hope you may be wrong. Samsung should clarify this, before many others spend too much money.
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Live score updates would be one feature I use on a regular basis. Many sites require Flash to be viewed properly, and Skyfire is somewhat limited in being able to do so.
The resolution of the phone is a factor, but with many video presentations and live transmissions in the 320/240 mode, the Apollo is more than capable of being able to used for displaying web video. LaolaTV, TVU networks, and Justin TV are examples of this.
An otherwise very capable phone, I would just like to squeeze a bit more of it's potential.
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I really hope you know that HTML5 isn't finnished yet, and will take more 2 years to be finnished. Till there, yes we need flash...
addicted2088 said:
HTC has been giving Flash support for their Eclair phones, but it doesn't work that great. If you check the Wildfire review on GSMArena, Flash has trouble playing videos on all sites, and only simple games run nicely.
Flash can run on ARMv6 processors, but it hasn't been developed properly for it yet. And no one except HTC gives support for Flash in their Eclair running phones, so it's not only Samsung's fault. Plus, even Samsung gave Flash on the high-end Galaxy S AFTER it was upgraded to Froyo.
Let's see, it's bound to come out for ARMv6 processors sometime, as budget Android phones are only gonna increase in popularity.
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now it's clear
welty said:
I really hope you know that HTML5 isn't finnished yet, and will take more 2 years to be finnished. Till there, yes we need flash...
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what about LG OO or other 200€ devices ?
Is there any other app that makes flash possible on our phones?
skyfire
flash doesnt work on p500 either....
Hey
It is possible, to install a Flash Lite on 2.2? Because we don't have any flash, and can't watch videos through skyfire. But no - I won't come back to 2.1