Hi anybody i plan to buy an new Phone...
My Question is - i search a phone which has no Hardware Issues like missed drivers for the Qualcomm MSM7200 Chipset etc...
Thx for answers...
sry my bad eng...
My answer - you'll NEVER find a phone, which has no hardware issues. There are always gonna be some. It just depends which one you accept and which not
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hi there
I know it's WM5 upgrade not available right now but I was just wondering that if it'll ever be possible that mini would be upgraded to WM5.Is it possible or mini doesn't meet the hardware requirements of WM5?your ideas?
Read the forums This was discussed all over the place!
However
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
I get mine hopefully next week when I am over in China.
Nope, never, jamais, nunca, nie, никогда, nooit, ποτέ, mai.
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apple_power said:
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
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I hope that you are aware that Magician and o2 atom are not only different devices, BUT ALSO FROM DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.
I will not be so naive to hope for WM5 on Magician, instead I hope for a nice brandnew WM5 device under the christmas tree. This hope is more likely to become true
Oh, another one!
:mrgreen: :lol: BWAAA HAA HAA HAAA HAAAA HAAAA :lol: :mrgreen:
Sorry, but I find people who ask this funny!
Especially because WM5 is absolutely uninteresting. It has been very slow on almost any new devices and the "nomore backups" issue isn't important to most of us people since we know how to make good backups - don't we?
I think WM5 is interessting! Not because of the Backup-Options.
Look here:
http://mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm2005-1-en.shtml
The Outlook Contacts for example are _much_ better in WM5.
You see the Contact's full name _and_ the numbers and calling is so much easier!
Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
Stupy said:
Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
Unfortunately WM5 on the Magician is almost impossible. Unofficial upgrades for other devices occured simply because M$ and/or carriers were testing the new OS on these devices and the ROM got leaked. Now that the testing is over who do you think will take his time and effort to develop this interface for free??? And that's providing he/she has the necessary resources.
At this point the only way to upgrade to WM5 is to sell your device and get a new one :-( I will probably go for the 02 XDA Atom or HTC Prophet fairly soon.
(btw, I really really hope someone proves me wrong )
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
nato said:
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
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No. How may times does it have to be said. Read the post immediately before yours. :roll:
It's not going to happen.
kta said:
Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
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Thanks kta for sorting that out. I just got the Mini, so it'll be a little while before I get the Atom - they don't sell too many of these types of phones here in Canada. No matter, I'll be happy with what I've got. Cheers!
Hi everyone,
I'm aware of the HTC graphical driver issues on theirs phones. I saw the benchmarks results of the Kaiser, Polaris, ... and they're sooooo poor compared to the Nokias' and iPhone's ones. That's so bad according to the possibilities of the hardware of these phones !
I also saw that HTC responded to HTCClassAction in January saying they're goin to implement the right drivers from that moment. It seems that("s not what happened.
I'm considering buying a HTC Touch HD aka Blackstone and I wish to know what I should expect from it. Does it implement the right driver ? I mean does it support hardware acceleration ?
I'm sad to say that but I have a KS20 which doesn't support PocketHAL and PointUI and I'm seriously considering buying an iPhone even if I HATE Apple's politics...
Can someone give me a straight and definitive answer about the Qualcomm/ATI driver support on the Blackstone ?? Or tell if there is an unofficial way to implement them through an alternative ROM or a simple CAB ?
Thanks a lot !
//ant1
tonyfromparis said:
Hi everyone,
I'm aware of the HTC graphical driver issues on theirs phones. I saw the benchmarks results of the Kaiser, Polaris, ... and they're sooooo poor compared to the Nokias' and iPhone's ones. That's so bad according to the possibilities of the hardware of these phones !
I also saw that HTC responded to HTCClassAction in January saying they're goin to implement the right drivers from that moment. It seems that("s not what happened.
I'm considering buying a HTC Touch HD aka Blackstone and I wish to know what I should expect from it. Does it implement the right driver ? I mean does it support hardware acceleration ?
I'm sad to say that but I have a KS20 which doesn't support PocketHAL and PointUI and I'm seriously considering buying an iPhone even if I HATE Apple's politics...
Can someone give me a straight and definitive answer about the Qualcomm/ATI driver support on the Blackstone ?? Or tell if there is an unofficial way to implement them through an alternative ROM or a simple CAB ?
Thanks a lot !
//ant1
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Are you asking from a purely technical/developer's point of view, or are you asking if the HD's graphic performance is better?
Well both in a way.
Technically speaking first coz I want to know what could work on the Blackstone from a PocketHAL UI like PoitUI to a full OpenGL ES game.
And in a second time if there is some evolutions since the Kaiser, Polaris or Diamond.
But first of all. It aksed a binary answer (yes or no) : does HTC had implemented a hardware acceleration or is it still a Microsoft software rendering ?
THANKS
//ant1
nobody knows ?
It has hardware 3d acceleration of opengl es and mobile directx, but it implementation isn't as good as it could be i believe. I am no expert, and this info is what I have gleaned from these forums. Touchflo 3D uses hardware acceleration.
I have tried the game 'Toy Golf' on my phone, and it runs with accelerated graphics which appear smooth, but unfortunatley most of the rendering is corrupt or missing. I am not aware of any other 3D games to try.
Hi guys, im new to this forum and have done a lot of reading, though have not found a definitive answer to my questions:
What is the issue with the Touch HDs GPU?
Is it that Drivers have not been made by HTC and so it is not used?
What can we do to overcome this?
I have already installed the Diamond ATI drivers although they do not seem to give me performance as smooth as i have seen on other, older pocket pcs.
Thanks in advance, i would really appreciate it if someone were to clear up these things for me.
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Is it that Drivers have not been made by HTC and so it is not used?
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The blackstone uses the MSM72xx chipset made by Qualcomm. In theory there are drivers for that chip, but the Qualcomm policy is a bit strange. Apparently you buy the chip itself, but the drivers aren't included. So you have to pay for each driver seperatly.
Therefore HTC tries to save some money, so they haven't bought these drivers, which means that the major work is done by the cpu making the device slow (or at least slower than it could be with full hardware support).
Until now there is no real work around. We are still looking for devices with these drivers included, but so far we haven't found drivers, which make full use of the hardware.
Personally I'm wondering if those drivers really exist (for Windows Mobile (as claimed by Qualcomm)), because I can't imagine why distributers don't want to add them, as they would improve the performance dramatically.
That's the short story, you can read through this thread in order to get more information.
Thanks
So for the time being is all that we can do is wait for someone to write/port over drivers?
ASK768 said:
Thanks
So for the time being is all that we can do is wait for someone to write/port over drivers?
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or actually WRITE them instead of waiting
wish i could have the skills to be of help...
People in this forum are working on the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
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or actually WRITE them instead of waiting
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I guess such a low level programming can't be done without the knowhow of the chip itself.
I would like to help but the only thing i could feasibly help with is testing and benchmarks seeing as i know very little about programming and even less about low level programming
Hi all,
Thank you for reading this.
I am fond of windows mobile, and i am really pleased with the os so far.
but, it's a bit slow. in want to ask you the following: Is the following thing possible?
I want to replace the hardware inside the HTC X7500 (logic board, CPU, RAM etc.) for the hardware inside the HTC HD2.
I expect that, because both of the devices got there own kitchen, the windows mobile flash won't be a problem. It would be just a matter of installing drivers.
But will the hardware fit? The x7500 screen, keyboard, joystick, and cameras to the logic board?
thank you very much for thinking about this question.
There will be people tell me, why dont you...
i thougth of this plan because i wanted an windows mobile device like the x7500 only fast.
thanks for helping.
jakobsebens
So ... you want to make a transformer ?
Make them two .. please .
No, seriously. Do you really want to combine two devices into one?
logic board, CPU, RAM etc. these things are expensive... not less than a whole phone.
I was wandering, Qualcomm released the drivers for the GPU of all Adreno snapdragon models of 2XX (this includes HD2 Adreno 200 graphics) but we don't have any real Hardware Accelerated ICS rom yet.
I know that I'm gonna be bashed with all those "Why don't you do it yourself!" wanderfull and so helpfull posts, but if this is only what you have to say, please don't even bother to post.
What I wanted to know is if we have another kind of problem besides the drivers so we can have HardAcc roms for our beloved device?
Greetings, Santroph.
I really think this should be on the DEV section, because this is a DEV question, but, since this is the question forum, here it is...
I think kernel support is needed to get full use of the ics drivers... and devs have no specific kernel source code for now... or they need some time to make the adjustements...
In any case the expectation is high
santroph said:
I was wandering, Qualcomm released the drivers for the GPU of all Adreno snapdragon models of 2XX (this includes HD2 Adreno 200 graphics) but we don't have any real Hardware Accelerated ICS rom yet.
I know that I'm gonna be bashed with all those "Why don't you do it yourself!" wanderfull and so helpfull posts, but if this is only what you have to say, please don't even bother to post.
What I wanted to know is if we have another kind of problem besides the drivers so we can have HardAcc roms for our beloved device?
Greetings, Santroph.
I really think this should be on the DEV section, because this is a DEV question, but, since this is the question forum, here it is...
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I was also wondering why it wasn't there yet, Glad you asked, Might get some things solved
Q: When will HTC HD2 get full hardware acceleration on ICS?
A: After the crow's wing crosses in front of the moon.
I agree
I'm very grateful for all the developers out there for doing everything they do for us and our HD2, but a fully-functional ICS (with hardware acceleration as well as Chrome beta) would be simply amazing. I'm just a beginner programmer, but if there's anything in my skills that can be done to help - I'd be glad to do so.