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Hi. I have question. Somebady buy from that shop phone4ultd.com ?
With delivery will cost me 440$. It's true or fake?
car phone warehouse do it for £440 on o2 but is a unlocked phone got my phone from there ,you do have to ask them to look up the deal
hi all,i cheked the site and its too good to be true rite?? at 400 dollars its less than half the price of what other outlets are selling...is this for real??
I'd guess that the first fake THDs from China will arrive soon. Stay away or burn.
well a quick check on companies house returns:
Name & Registered Office:
PHONES 4U LIMITED
OSPREY HOUSE ORE CLOSE
LYMEDALE BUSINESS PARK
NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME
STAFFORDSHIRE
ST5 9QD
Company No. 03154198
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 02/02/1996
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)): 5248 - Other retail specialised stores
Accounting Reference Date: 31/12
Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/12/2007 (FULL)
Next Accounts Due: 31/10/2009
Last Return Made Up To: 31/10/2008
Next Return Due: 28/11/2009
Last Members List: 31/10/2008
Previous Names:
Date of change Previous Name
07/03/1997 PHONES (4U) LIMITED
06/03/1996 TRYLASER LIMITED
25/02/1997 4U (RETAIL) LIMITED
so its a "legit" company limited and registered in the uk
however, its odd that for a UK company all their prices are in dollars and not very professional to have a company email address as [email protected] (havent they ever heard of email redirection?) or a company phone number as : +44 795-175-0314 (UK mobile number)
but if it is real and so are the fones, i might order 10 at $4400 and sell then on ebay at £400 each thus making myself a tidy £1000 profit for doing squat
buyer beware i feel
440.00 USD = 303.426 GBP delivered, a HUGE £140 cheaper than a massive company like CPW. something dont smell right
Wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.....
Hi Guys,
I am in the UK & yes we have a long established co' called phones4u, with an 0800 freephone no' (the tv adverts are pants though<S>), but....
They are www.phones4u.CO.UK, not .COM
After having a shuftie, this is definately a spoof site, so beware.
Cheers, Shane
In carphonewarehouse in UK I might buy HTC TOUCH HD for 440 pounds?
that is the phones4u web site and it is .co.uk and not .com just try google and see but ,still looks to good to be true at that price
sparkz said:
Hi Guys,
I am in the UK & yes we have a long established co' called phones4u, with an 0800 freephone no' (the tv adverts are pants though<S>), but....
They are www.phones4u.CO.UK, not .COM
After having a shuftie, this is definately a spoof site, so beware.
Cheers, Shane
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i would suggest saying it is a spoof site is possibly libellous as it is a genuine 'companies house' registered company, although i agree the name is so close as to have people stumble across it by mistake if looking for the larger more advertised company
How does phones4ultd.com suddenly become phones4u.co.uk?
Are people really that gullible?
this is pure ****, I tried contact "them" if they really exist. And I got nothing, no mail no phone
and from the looking of the site you can directly tell that
stay away ^_^
jonajuna said:
i would suggest saying it is a spoof site is possibly libellous as it is a genuine 'companies house' registered company, although i agree the name is so close as to have people stumble across it by mistake if looking for the larger more advertised company
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You misunderstand - the company that's been found at companies house is PHONES4U, a large and reputable retailer here in the UK. Their website is www.phones4u.co.uk
The "company" referred to by the OP is www.phone4ultd.com - a quick glance at that site confirms it's absolutely no relation to Phones4u, and is simply trying to trade on exactly this kind of confusion. "Phone4ultd" is NOT companies house registered and doesn't appear to be UK based at all - given the unlikely pricing and attempt to confuse, I'm quite comfortable calling it out as a scam site, and if "Phone4ultd"'s solicitors want to get in contact over my libel I'll look forward to hearing from them!
EDIT: just realised that at www.phone4ultd.com/info.HTML they're actually quoting Phones4u's companies house registration - make no mistake, this is a SCAM. For genuine info on the real Phones4u (including that companies house registration number again) see www.phones4u.co.uk/info/info_home.asp
this might be interested to people:
WHOIS information for: phone4ultd.com:
[whois.melbourneit.com]
Domain Name.......... phone4ultd.com
Creation Date........ 2008-11-02
Registration Date.... 2008-11-02
Expiry Date.......... 2010-11-02
Organisation Name.... Eric Gonsenheim
Organisation Address. 230 e44th st
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. New York
Organisation Address. 10017
Organisation Address. NY
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... Eric Gonsenheim
Admin Address........ 230 e44th st
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ New York
Admin Address........ 10017
Admin Address........ NY
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... [email protected]
Admin Phone.......... +1.6191919831
Admin Fax............
Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... [email protected]
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com
Definitely registered to someone in america, and the email address ties up with the registered email address.
golong147 said:
car phone warehouse do it for £440 on o2 but is a unlocked phone got my phone from there ,you do have to ask them to look up the deal
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Is that O2 pay as you go? I have an O2 simplicity contract that I don't want to change (600mins, 1000txts and unlimited internet for £20pm) and want to buy a Touch HD - and sell my Touch Diamond on eBay.
£440 for a brand new unlocked one sounds very good considering most places are £500+, and the cheapest eBay unlocked / unbranded is about £485
Boinng said:
You misunderstand - the company that's been found at companies house is PHONES4U, a large and reputable retailer here in the UK. Their website is www.phones4u.co.uk
The "company" referred to by the OP is www.phone4ultd.com - a quick glance at that site confirms it's absolutely no relation to Phones4u, and is simply trying to trade on exactly this kind of confusion. "Phone4ultd" is NOT companies house registered and doesn't appear to be UK based at all - given the unlikely pricing and attempt to confuse, I'm quite comfortable calling it out as a scam site, and if "Phone4ultd"'s solicitors want to get in contact over my libel I'll look forward to hearing from them!
EDIT: just realised that at www.phone4ultd.com/info.HTML they're actually quoting Phones4u's companies house registration - make no mistake, this is a SCAM. For genuine info on the real Phones4u (including that companies house registration number again) see www.phones4u.co.uk/info/info_home.asp
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you are quite right and my bad, sorry
i took their reg number and did the deed, i too just did a whois for the domain (as the poster above has, before noticing they had done so!!) and got the same info (as you would of course
ive sent an email to phones 4u (the real legit company) so they can see what is happening in their name, they will have the clout and know how to get this guy offline, copied it to yahoo stores too
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Is that O2 pay as you go? I have an O2 simplicity contract that I don't want to change (600mins, 1000txts and unlimited internet for £20pm) and want to buy a Touch HD - and sell my Touch Diamond on eBay.
£440 for a brand new unlocked one sounds very good considering most places are £500+, and the cheapest eBay unlocked / unbranded is about £485
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Its definitelly on O2 Pay as you go.. I took this deal pre-christmas and popped in my T-Mobile sim and havent looked back.
I know many people outside of the chosen few countries want to get their hands on this latest android offering from the G-mothership. Down here in New Zealand we have the network through Vodafone to use the phone, but what I'm wondering is the following...
Is there a technical reason why the phone want work in countries outside the current lucky ones?
Does the online Activation require you to be in one of those countries, or limited to those countries? Or is activation optional?
Can anyone think of any other reasons or workarounds?
I'm planning to get the phone through the UK and send it back to NZ. All I really need to know is that I'm not shipping a $800NZ "superphone" paper weight.
Any help appreciated, I know other people will find this info useful in other countries.
Currently using a HTC Touch Diamond 2 that I got shipped from Hong Kong and its been working fine. Hoping the same applies to the Nexus One
Hey I live in New Zealand also. Currently I am waiting for my nexus one to be shipped from California to Auckland, there's more details at geekzone.co.nz under Android
Sweet as, good to hear someone else is trying.
You can use a reship service like shipitto or demail
http://demailbox.com/
demail is probably the best because they're based in delaware which doesnt add tax. Also I think shipping to the US is free when you order a nexus.
So you would pay demailbox a fee for handling your package and providing a 'virtual' US address in delaware, and the shipping from there to your country.
You would pay google just for the phone and free shipping to the virtual US mailbox.
Then you'd pay tax/duty when it enters your own country. Really the only extra here is the demailbox fee, as you'd have to pay the rest even if google shiped to you.
mtyp said:
I know many people outside of the chosen few countries want to get their hands on this latest android offering from the G-mothership. Down here in New Zealand we have the network through Vodafone to use the phone, but what I'm wondering is the following...
Is there a technical reason why the phone want work in countries outside the current lucky ones?
Does the online Activation require you to be in one of those countries, or limited to those countries? Or is activation optional?
Can anyone think of any other reasons or workarounds?
I'm planning to get the phone through the UK and send it back to NZ. All I really need to know is that I'm not shipping a $800NZ "superphone" paper weight.
Any help appreciated, I know other people will find this info useful in other countries.
Currently using a HTC Touch Diamond 2 that I got shipped from Hong Kong and its been working fine. Hoping the same applies to the Nexus One
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I had no clue it was region locked =/ or am i understanding this wrong. I thought they were just selling it in those countries but not just enabling them in those countries. I'm also waiting on mine
babijoee which country are you in?
There's no region lock, but you need to look at the frequencies that are supported.
Its also unclear if the phone is linked to the google checkout account it was bought from for activation.
I went through the standard prompts on the N1 and didn't see anything about a specific "registration".. I imagine I could have used any of my Gmail accounts to setup the device. The word "registration" never came up.
We were unable to find any Nexus One phones to activate.
If you purchased your phone as an upgrade, you should transfer your SIM card from your old T-Mobile phone to your Nexus One. Only ported phone numbers require activation. Contact T-Mobile Customer Care with further questions.
Ahh that makes sense So activation isnt an issue
kam187 said:
You can use a reship service like shipitto or demail
http://demailbox.com/
demail is probably the best because they're based in delaware which doesnt add tax. Also I think shipping to the US is free when you order a nexus.
So you would pay demailbox a fee for handling your package and providing a 'virtual' US address in delaware, and the shipping from there to your country.
You would pay google just for the phone and free shipping to the virtual US mailbox.
Then you'd pay tax/duty when it enters your own country. Really the only extra here is the demailbox fee, as you'd have to pay the rest even if google shiped to you.
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Hey i live in Delaware. Think there is a business in this for me..lol. I will be an intermediary ;-)
Edit: Not to mention I work at UPS
Dears,
here is what you need to do..
Get a US proxy ... or you cant order via Google Checkout (IP checking)
They accept none US Credit Cards... well at least they took my Kuwaiti... (your bank my stop this not them !!!)
Ship to your "US" address ... I use BorderLinx (Owned by DHL !)
They (G) shipped mine overnight to "OH" (Seems they ship from nearest warehouse so that they Raise US TAX... !)
Mine "arrived" on Friday.. and is currently on route to Kuwait... I'll get it on Tuesday..
So the whole thing including US TAX, Shipping(Express->US->Q8) and customs (Here) cost $678...
No issues with the Freq - 3G as the N1 supports ROW (Rest of World) it only has issues with the US...
BTW the Shipping weight is 1.57KG (Fedex AWB stated 0.9KG) as stated by DHL..
Working one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42261066#post42261066
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42261066#post42261066
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thanks! has been looking for this for long time.
I logged on to their site and chatted with the live person and asked if the U.S. Tmo HD2 was SIM unlockable. They said yes.
I proceeded to go through the motions. Bought unlock on Paypal. Ran local client. Got rejected saying US/France/Canada can't do the auto method, had to email them for code. Emailed. Heard back in about 20 mins. They said computer was not kicking back a unlock code.
This was about 6 hours ago. Still waiting.
Anyone have any luck with the U.S. HD2 and htccode.com? I'm not criticizing them just stating my experience so far.
If I get a code by tomorrow I'll be happy. Otherwise I would like a refund as Tmobile service in my area is not nearly as good as ATT. So I currently have ATT and was just trying the HD2. So I figured I'd unlock it and pop in my ATT SIM to see if I get better luck on reception. Otherwise I'm gonna have to try the Telstra model. Bigger investment.
And yes I know I won't get 3G on ATT. But as it is I'm not getting any reception whatsoever on Tmo.
Not much help to you, but I went with unlock-now.com. Been about 1.5 days and not a peep from them. I am in the same boat, trying to use it with ATT.
Wish luck for you by the morning. In my experience so far, htccode.com is really good and quick. I used them twice before and got my unlock code for only 10'
I am waiting for any good news from either of you...I want to use att sim
Is it possible to use the phone in india after we get the unlock code from HTC.
ashok said:
Is it possible to use the phone in india after we get the unlock code from HTC.
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If your carrier in India supports the same bands the T-Mobile HD2 does then yes. People like me that are on ATT will be stuck on the 2g/Edge data connections because ATT and T-Mobile don't share the same 3g bands.
All a sim lock does is make only the carriers sim card work on the device.
And for the record still nothing from unlock-now. I wish they would at least reply to my support ticket, I understand it's a new device, but communication is key to a good business.
Let's hope htccode.com can figure this out...
can't you just call Tmobile and ask them for the unlock code? I've read somewhere they will give u the code after 2 or 3 days
huevo0000 said:
can't you just call Tmobile and ask them for the unlock code? I've read somewhere they will give u the code after 2 or 3 days
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I was about to ask the same question. T-Mobile is usually pretty good about giving out the unlock code. Especially if you bought the device unsubsidized.
Goatmaster said:
Not much help to you, but I went with unlock-now.com. Been about 1.5 days and not a peep from them. I am in the same boat, trying to use it with ATT.
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I tried first thing on the 24th after obtaining the TMOUS HD2 as well and as you; I have heard absolutely nothing, your right communication is the key.
HushH said:
I was about to ask the same question. T-Mobile is usually pretty good about giving out the unlock code. Especially if you bought the device unsubsidized.
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I called them twice and was told they would give the code after a certain amount of time but only if you have had an active account as they need it to send you the code...I KNOW for a FACT that is not true but its what they told me both times. More likely they have the code right in front of them if not on the next screen, but its not the reps fault they just following orders.
So far:
freeyourhtc.com = Could not return a code...Refunded my money within 2 hours from purchase. $18.99
htc-unlocker.org = Emailed me code after 2 hours; it didn't work. BUT!!! They emailed me twice since saying they are working on it. After 24 hours they emailed me saying the code is not in any of the databases but they can request it from TMO but they want an additional $10.00 and it could take 3 days. $19.99
leo.unlock-now.com (unlock-now.com) = Not so much even as an email to say thank you for the payment. Still waiting, site says it could take up to 2 days...it has been almost a day and a half so far. They sent me a refund (Not quite 2 days yet) saying my code could not be found without me ever emailing them so I guess not so bad after all, also said try back in 15 days.$23.95
I also emailed 2 ebay unlock sellers they have not wrote back yet.
Man I miss Olipro and Cmonex ---They dont have an unlocker on their site yet!!!
BLAHHH
I am going through the same exact thing!
I used HTCCode.com and after I paid and d/l the client they say it wouldn't because my PayPal is from the U.S.
Sim-unlocker.com- is garbage. They haven't gotten back to me at all. They did how -ever happily take my money with out any issues
T-Mobile-They have been the most helpful, they said since I purchased my phone at a major retailer they would do it but I had to fax some info. I than said that was unacceptable and the kind lady asked if i had any friends on T-mobile. luckily I did and they said it would at max take 48hrs. I have been waiting since last night..
bingkc said:
I am going through the same exact thing!
T-Mobile-They have been the most helpful, they said since I purchased my phone at a major retailer they would do it but I had to fax some info. I than said that was unacceptable and the kind lady asked if i had any friends on T-mobile. luckily I did and they said it would at max take 48hrs. I have been waiting since last night..
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I am going through the same exact thing!
is your hd2 from the us or the uk t-mobile?
i have four hd2 t-mobile upgrade which i can`t unlock, had no issues before
maybe there is some software to unlock hd2?
If I remember right there was a legal deal regarding the unlock code situation. You are the owner of the phone and have the right to the code. The carrier is required to give you the code. I have had good luck getting tmo USA to give me my codes on past phones. It sometimes takes a day or two because they had to get it from htc.
T-mobile Must Unlock Your HD2 From My Interpretation
HushH said:
I was about to ask the same question. T-Mobile US is usually pretty good about giving out the unlock code. Especially if you bought the device unsubsidized.
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When I bought the phone and I made sure to request my phone would would be unlocked so I can compare with my AT&T service. I did not transfer my number and kept my AT&T account open.
When I called in to have it unlocked, one guy said they can't unlock it until after 14 days, which is the last day to return the phone in many states. I called again and a lady said I have to be through 2 billing periods or 40 days to get it unlocked. This is not written in my contract. I demanded something in writing and there is not a written policy or specific terms on this. But yet, I'm "contractually" binded to this "policy" even though it was never discussed to me nor was it in my contract. I didn't leave the store until I got a written documentation of the conversation around the 40 days.
Then I look at the Terms and Conditions online and line item #6 states customers have the right to have it unlocked.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/P...&PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
6. * Your Wireless Device & Compatibility with Other Networks. Your Device may not be compatible with the network and services provided by another service provider. You may buy a Device from us or someone else, but it must, as solely determined by T-Mobile,be compatible with, and not potentially harm, our network. Some T-Mobile features will be available only on Devices purchased from us. A T-Mobile Device is designed to be used only with T-Mobile service; however, you may be eligible to have your Device reprogrammed to work with another carrier but you must contact us to do so. Not all Devices are capable of being reprogrammed. At times we may change software, applications or programming remotely and without notice. This could affect data you have stored on, the way you have programmed, or the way you use your Device.
From my interpretation, consumers have the right to waive arbitration and sue for breach of contract.
if you have tmobile call them up for the unlock code, tell them your going out the country. You will get it unlock code free in 24hrs-7 days via email
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When I bought the phone and I made sure to request my phone would would be unlocked so I can compare with my AT&T service. I did not transfer my number and kept my AT&T account open.
When I called in to have it unlocked, one guy said they can't unlock it until after 14 days, which is the last day to return the phone in many states. I called again and a lady said I have to be through 2 billing periods or 40 days to get it unlocked. This is not written in my contract. I demanded something in writing and there is not a written policy or specific terms on this. But yet, I'm "contractually" binded to this "policy" even though it was never discussed to me nor was it in my contract. I didn't leave the store until I got a written documentation of the conversation around the 40 days.
Then I look at the Terms and Conditions online and line item #6 states customers have the right to have it unlocked.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/P...&PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
6. * Your Wireless Device & Compatibility with Other Networks. Your Device may not be compatible with the network and services provided by another service provider. You may buy a Device from us or someone else, but it must, as solely determined by T-Mobile,be compatible with, and not potentially harm, our network. Some T-Mobile features will be available only on Devices purchased from us. A T-Mobile Device is designed to be used only with T-Mobile service; however, you may be eligible to have your Device reprogrammed to work with another carrier but you must contact us to do so. Not all Devices are capable of being reprogrammed. At times we may change software, applications or programming remotely and without notice. This could affect data you have stored on, the way you have programmed, or the way you use your Device.
From my interpretation, consumers have the right to waive arbitration and sue for breach of contract.
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It's all in how you interpret "you may be eligible"...
WTF does that mean? Do they have the right to place eligibility requirements on it even? What are the U.S. laws regarding this?
How do you think the ones that popped up on ebay right away after release got their codes so fast?
I have tried 3 unlocking sites and they all said code cannot be found at this time.
j23a45m said:
if you have tmobile call them up for the unlock code, tell them your going out the country. You will get it unlock code free in 24hrs-7 days via email
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Tried this, was told the account had to be active for 40 days which is bull because when I called before getting the phone they said you just had to have an account active.
unlock-now.com
They were unable to unlock my T-Mobile US HD2. Also looking for someone to unlock my new phone.
I've been "pressuring" htccode.com to come up with a unlock. If they can do it I told them I'd put a post on my site (HTCHD2.NET) which might drum up some sales. It's gets a decent amount of hits so hopefully this will motivate them.
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First and foremost, my invites are already spoken for if and when I get them (none issued yet). I feel for those that didn't get one, but then again after my experience it may be worthwhile to wait for a newer batch or even avoid the OPO all together.
Also, I don't post very often so I apologize if this is in the wrong forum for whatever reason.
Alright, so I was pretty excited to see that I won an invite to purchase a OnePlus One through the Storm of Invites contest. I had been looking forward to this phone since I'd been between the Nexus 5, Moto X, and Note 3 for the past 6 months without really loving any of them.
Here's the story so far (some emails are condensed to stay relevant and on topic).
June 26, 7:32AM
I get the email with the invite. Words of interest in the email:
This invite indicates that there is a One ready and waiting for you in our warehouse so it will ship within three days of purchase.
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June 26, 7:58AM
I create an account and purchase the phone. $349.99 USD + $27.99 USD Express Shipping = $377.98 USD = $415 CAD after conversion (I'm in Canada).
July 1, 11:52AM
I get this email from OnePlus, as I'm sure many others did:
Thank you for your recent order of the OnePlus One. You're probably aware that your package has not yet shipped. We wanted to let you know that though your order has been processed, your device will likely ship on the 9th of July.
We apologize for the delay in your shipment as we work to optimize our logistics processes and will continue to refine our operations to ensure a seamless process in the future. As a show of gratitude for your patience, we'll be adding two invites to the three you're already receiving so you can share them with your friends and family. All five of these invites will be placed in your account in July.
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So much for having a OnePlus in their warehouse waiting for me... Sure am happy I paid that $30 express shipping charge. And more invites eh? Big f'in deal, I just want my phone!
July 2, 7:36PM
I receive this email from OnePlus:
High five! Your order has been shipped. Please check the status of your package by checking your store account
Software updates moving forward will be handled via an Over-the-Air (OTA) update. Future updates will bring additional features and general improvements to the software.
Your shipping confirmation is below. Please note that it may take up to 24 hours for your tracking number to become active, so don't worry if you cannot track it just yet. Thank you again for your business.
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July 3, 7:00AM
I pull up the tracking info and it's still just "Shipping details submitted electronically."
July 3, 6:22PM
Shipment picked up from Los Angeles, California. Alright, some movement!
July 4, 6:57PM
DHL is at my door, fantastic! Definitely the fastest shipping I've had to date - crazy... Wait, what's this?! A $32 CAD customs charge at the door? Wow. The phone that was once $349 USD is now worth $447 CAD (roughly $420 USD). Oh well, it's in my hands! Awesome!
July 4, 7:05PM
After taking the phone out of the box, I notice it requires a micro SIM, I've been using a nano SIM for a while in my Moto X so I head to my local carrier and grab a new SIM for $5 (grand total $452 CAD). Power on phone, get an OTA update immediately. Reboot, and then once I open the browser (primarily white screen) I notice the infamous "yellow band" along the bottom. Whatever, not a big deal.
July 4, 7:30PM
After playing with the phone for a while I notice that the rear-facing camera (you know, the primary one) isn't recognized by the phone at all. No apps at all have the "switch camera" button and a hardware information app doesn't even know it exists. I open a support ticket.
July 5 - July 6
Blah blah in the support ticket - I did basic troubleshooting to prove the issue (factory reset, check for updates), and then I ask the following 3 questions:
1) Are replacement units in stock and when could I expect to receive one?
2) I was charged $30 in customs fees when receiving the phone, is that going to happen again with the replacement? Am I on the hook for any shopping costs as well?
3) Would the replacement unit be refurbished, brand new, or are you simply planning on repairing mine and shipping it back to me?
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I get the following response:
1. Yes, we do have stock reserved for replacements.
2. There are no shipping costs for replacements, but I do have to check about the issue of Canadian customs fees – please let me get back to you on that.
3. Your replacement unit will be brand new!
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Alright, not bad!
July 7, 6:21AM
Receive email asking me to now open an RMA ticket instead of a support ticket... Alright, kinda figured they'd just do that for me, but sure. I can do that. Also provide them with the IMEI at their request which, for some reason, they don't have on file.
July 8, 12:16AM
Follow up on my last unanswered email, asking again about whether or not I'm going to be charged for customs.
July 8, 3:28AM
Fast response! "Approved. Let's ship from HK and pay for customs ourselves." was all I got. Sounds good, let's do this!
July 8, 3:48AM
Receive an email with the following:
We just approved your RMA. Please could you give me your IMEI number? I'll look into it for you.
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Wait, what? I already gave you that information, and why would you approve an RMA without the IMEI in the first place anyway? So confused...
July 8, 6:46AM
Receive the RMA instructions:
We will send someone to pick up your package - let us know when would be a good time for you by leaving a comment in the RMA.
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Weird, alright. I wipe the phone, box it up and get it ready then put a comment in the RMA with the following info:
Please pick up from <My Address> on Tuesday, July 8th, 2014 at 5:00PM MST. If this date/time cannot be made, please try the same address on Wednesday, July 9th, 2014 at 8:00AM.
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I really didn't expect them to be able to make it on such short notice, but it's worth a shot. I've never really shipped anything this way before, so I'm not sure what's realistic and the instructions weren't exactly detailed.
July 8, 6:11PM
No one came, not at 8AM and not at 5PM. Hrm. Ok, update the ticket with the following:
I updated the RMA asking for them to pick it up today at 5PM MST but no one came. What now?
Can they come at 8AM MST tomorrow morning as I had also requested as a backup? Getting tired of chasing you guys around...
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July 8, 8:15PM
Receive the following email:
Could you please give us a time slot for pick up, like after 5 p.m. from Monday to Friday etc. Thanks so much, we will arrange courier to pick up your phone as soon as possible. Hope for your understanding.
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Couldn't you have disclosed that information a little sooner? Also, expecting consumers to sit around after 5PM from Monday-Friday is a bit ridiculous... I don't have my own shipping/receiving department at home, so I can't exactly guarantee I'll be there every day after 5PM indefinitely.
July 8, 8:19PM
My response:
What courier is it? Can I drop it off somewhere instead? If not, between 5-7PM MST Mon-Fri.
On another note, will the version of OnePlus One from China be any different from the one I received from North America?
Please provide an estimated ETA for the courier to come and pick up the faulty unit. Please also provide an estimated ETA for when I can expect my replacement unit to ship from China and when it should arrive at my house. Right now it's seeming like I won't have a phone in my hands again for weeks, possibly longer...
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July 9, 2:30AM
I receive an email from them clarifying the difference between Chinese and global versions:
China version and global version could support different bands.
The OnePlus One global supports these bands:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
The Chinese version OnePlus One supports below bands:
GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TD-SCDMA：1800-1920 / 2010-2025
WCDMA*：2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900
TD-LTE：2570-2620 / 1880-1920 / 2300-2400
FDD-LTE*：2100 / 1800 / 2600
* WCDMA and FDD-LTE only available during international roaming.
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So they could potentially ship me a different model that wouldn't have working LTE in my country... yikes.
We could not control the courier company, ask for the convenience time slot because we want to save your time and pick up your phone as soon as possible.
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The intent was to save me time, but I don't think it's working. I've since requested that they cancel all of the Hong Kong/China RMA, and just RMA it normally through the USA. At least then I'll get a phone that works, even if I have to fight over the customs to get it here.
July 15, 4:00PM
Alright, so I spent most of last week arguing and dealing with OnePlus over shipping details and such for the replacement. To sum it up, I was told that it would be the international version, that it would ship from China to avoid customs fees, and that I wouldn't be paying a dime.
Fast forward to July 14 - the phone ships! Tracking information! Hoorah!
Wait, DHL?!?! From California??
Thanks for listening OnePlus. I called DHL today once it cleared customs and was told that the fees I would be responsible for at the door would be $34.71. Again. DHL mentioned that OnePlus did not mark ANYWHERE on the package that it was a warranty replacement, and that if they had the fees would have only been $10 for processing. So screw you OnePlus, and screw you DHL for trying to charge me processing for nothing.
I argued with them about it for quite some time, but it sounds like I'm pretty much screwed.
July 16, 9:50PM
Alright, so finally some good news!
To my extreme surprise, I received a call from Andy at OnePlus this morning. I had actually requested a phone call during the initial RMA request, so after several weeks without a call I definitely wasn't expecting one now. This is the only response I have had since informing OnePlus that there were customs charges on the second shipment a few days ago, so I was impressed to see that they were concerned enough to actually call about it. That, and I left some pretty heated words in the support ticket that may have forced the call. I'm not sure, but either way I was definitely happy to receive the call.
Anyhow, Andy assured me that if I did indeed get charged a second set of customs charges that OnePlus would have no problem reimbursing them for me. He sent a follow up email so that I knew where to send the invoice/receipt to, and so that's where things are sitting now.
On a side note, I managed to negotiate the charges down with DHL from $35 to $15, but not without providing them every single piece of proof I had (export paperwork with TNT, commercial invoice, copies of RMA info from 1+ website, etc.) that I had shipped the other unit back to them. Even still, I am hoping that they hold up their offer and reimburse the remaining amount.
Summary
The $350 "Flagship Killer" phone turned into a $450 "D.O.A." phone really fast.
OnePlus has had my money for nearly 2 weeks.
I have a OnePlus One with a faulty camera in a box that I can't use.
I have no idea when a courier is going to come pick it up.
I'm really hoping I'm lucky enough to be at home when they show up.
My new phone won't even ship from OnePlus until they receive the faulty one....
In China.
And then it has to ship back to Canada...
From China.
Joke's on me! It's DHL again...
And another $35 in customs fees, yay!
Updated Below:
Managed to negotiate DHL brokerage fees down from $35 to $15
Andy from OnePlus called me directly, offering to reimburse the second set of customs charges if applicable
Submitted invoice/receipt to 1+, just waiting now.
I'm aware that there is a chance the camera issue could be related to a bad flash or something software-related, but I'm not bothering with any of that in the off chance that it's actually a hardware issue. Better safe than sorry.
Presumably you already paid upon importing the phone so tax/duty doesn't apply for warranty repaired items. As long as the shipping label clearly states "warranty repair" you shouldn't get a problem.
FWIW I had a weird update too but fastboot oem unlock and reset cleared it up.
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Presumably you already paid upon importing the phone so tax/duty doesn't apply for warranty repaired items. As long as the shipping label clearly states "warranty repair" you shouldn't get a problem.
FWIW I had a weird update too but fastboot oem unlock and reset cleared it up.
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I completely agree, there's no way I should be hit with customs charges a second time on something I've already purchased by they couldn't promise it.
DHL is the only company that has consistently hit me with customs charges.
^ Good luck! Please keep us up to date with how the whole situation develops.
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July 9, 2:30AM
I receive an email from them clarifying the difference between Chinese and global versions:
China version and global version could support different bands.
The OnePlus One global supports these bands:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
The Chinese version OnePlus One supports below bands:
GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TD-SCDMA：1800-1920 / 2010-2025
WCDMA*：2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900
TD-LTE：2570-2620 / 1880-1920 / 2300-2400
FDD-LTE*：2100 / 1800 / 2600
* WCDMA and FDD-LTE only available during international roaming.
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So they were actually planning on shipping me a different model that wouldn't have working LTE in my country!
We could not control the courier company, ask for the convenience time slot because we want to save your time and pick up your phone as soon as possible.
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The intent was to save me time, but I don't think it's working. I've since requested that they cancel all of the Hong Kong/China RMA, and just RMA it normally through the USA. At least then I'll get a phone that works, even if I have to fight over the customs to get it here.
I think there is just some confusion regarding the "Chinese" phone. I doubt they were every planning on shipping you a Chinese version of the phone. Both versions are produced in China, so just because your phone was going to be shipped directly from China, it doesn't mean it wasn't going to be the international version. By shipping directly from Hong Kong, they could pay for the custom fee in one shot. If they sent it from the North America distribution center, it adds another layer of complexity that they didn't want to deal with. Their comments didn't say anything about shipping you a Chinese version - I think you read too much into their comments.
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I think there is just some confusion regarding the "Chinese" phone. I doubt they were every planning on shipping you a Chinese version of the phone. Both versions are produced in China, so just because your phone was going to be shipped directly from China, it doesn't mean it wasn't going to be the international version. I think you read too much into their comment honestly.....
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I would have thought that too, but they didn't refute it at all.
Instead of saying they were shipping me the same model, they told me the models were different and she couldn't guarantee it would work properly here.
Damn Really sorry to hear that!
Friends ordered 2 from china, the LTE bands don't matter since we live in Europe i hope for them that they don't get a faulty one.
So the hardware from the international one and the Chinese one are really different? I thought it was just software, kernel related or whatever. So there is no way to mod the modem to work exactly like the international one.
I hope for you that this gets resolved!
Heads-up to OP: I read a couple other ppl have reported camera not detected on an earlier build of CM-11s, upgrade fixed it. Have you tried factory wipe & install CM11 M8?
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I would have thought that too, but they didn't refute it at all.
Instead of saying they were shipping me the same model, they told me the models were different and she couldn't guarantee it would work properly here.
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Well I think she misunderstood your question too. I think she was simply stating how the two versions were different. I wouldn't take her response as a confirmation that they were sending out a Chinese version.
You have to remember that English may not be the native language of the people you are getting support from......
All in all, I think there has just been a misunderstanding in the communication. I really doubt they were sending you a Chinese version to replace an International version unless you specifically asked for it.
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Damn Really sorry to hear that!
Friends ordered 2 from china, the LTE bands don't matter since we live in Europe i hope for them that they don't get a faulty one.
So the hardware from the international one and the Chinese one are really different? I thought it was just software, kernel related or whatever. So there is no way to mod the modem to work exactly like the international one.
I hope for you that this gets resolved!
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Thanks, and I believe the hardware is more or less the same but in order to use North American bands you need to flash a radio and I'm a bit nervous to do anything like that with this phone in case it's an actual hardware problem. I'm worried that OnePlus may try to refuse warranty support because of it.
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Heads-up to OP: I read a couple other ppl have reported camera not detected on an earlier build of CM-11s, upgrade fixed it. Have you tried factory wipe & install CM11 M8?
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I tried, and no it didn't work. Wiped everything including system, flashed M8, and still only front-facing camera. Looks like it might actually be hardware-related.
Can you please send me a invite then? i wanna join you so bad!!!!! pm me at least =(
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Can you please send me a invite then? i wanna join you so bad!!!!! pm me at least =(
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You obviously didn't read any of my post.
Since you probably still won't, the answer is no.
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Well I think she misunderstood your question too. I think she was simply stating how the two versions were different. I wouldn't take her response as a confirmation that they were sending out a Chinese version.
You have to remember that English may not be the native language of the people you are getting support from......
All in all, I think there has just been a misunderstanding in the communication. I really doubt they were sending you a Chinese version to replace an International version unless you specifically asked for it.
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I'm not mad at her, I'm not sure why you're so adamantly defending her. It's not her fault at all, she just works there.
"All in all," I think you're voicing your opinion much like I've voiced mine, and I'm not sure why we're still arguing about it... You're allowed to interpret that conversation however you like, just like I did.
In my opinion, when I ask if the model I'll be receiving from China is different from the one I purchased in North America and they come back to me with "China version and global version could support different bands" that tells me that they are likely sending me a different model that "could support different bands."
If it makes you happy, technically speaking neither of us are right since it hasn't happened yet.
Yeesh.
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I'm not mad at her, I'm not sure why you're so adamantly defending her. It's not her fault at all, she just works there.
"All in all," I think you're voicing your opinion much like I've voiced mine, and I'm not sure why we're still arguing about it... You're allowed to interpret that conversation however you like, just like I did.
In my opinion, when I ask if the model I'll be receiving from China is different from the one I purchased in North America and they come back to me with "China version and global version could support different bands" that tells me that they are likely sending me a different model that "could support different bands."
If it makes you happy, technically speaking neither of us are right since it hasn't happened yet.
Yeesh.
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We're not gonna replace it with a Chinese version, that was just a bit of lost in translation action.
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We're not gonna replace it with a Chinese version, that was just a bit of lost in translation action.
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Excellent, yes I had just confirmed that with the customer service rep this morning.
For future reference, TNT shipping is possibly the worst courier for returns from a consumer.
They only pick up from 8AM-5PM Mon-Fri (which is when I and most people work), you cannot drop it off anywhere for them, I need to provide (create) a commercial invoice with my signature, provide customs information (ie: export license, some sort of harmonized code?), all of which I don't have since I'm just a consumer, and provide them with 4 copies of all of this, signed and dated.
Here begins the hour of paperwork and printing required to return my defective product. There has got to be an easier way.
Oh right, and a lithium battery form too....
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Excellent, yes I had just confirmed that with the customer service rep this morning.
For future reference, TNT shipping is possibly the worst courier for returns from a consumer.
They only pick up from 8AM-5PM Mon-Fri (which is when I and most people work), you cannot drop it off anywhere for them, I need to provide (create) a commercial invoice with my signature, provide customs information (ie: export license, some sort of harmonized code?), all of which I don't have since I'm just a consumer, and provide them with 4 copies of all of this, signed and dated.
Here begins the hour of paperwork and printing required to return my defective product. There has got to be an easier way.
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Oh dude, I know. I've been wondering for so long why there isn't a startup delivery service that ONLY hires people willing to work when the rest of us are at home. Oh well. We're not happy either about how this is turning out, so keep us updated (via your customer support contact) and we'll evaluate the procedure. In non-business speak - we're looking for a better provider, but I'm aware that doesn't help you at this point.
Wow I am really sorry to read that, I like must of us had to wait a week or 2 to actually get the phone (express shipping dont do any difference) but thank God my phone is flawless (knock on wood), I hope that was an isolated issue.
Good luck.
As many of you, I jumped on the Newegg.ca Pre-order which gave me the Axon 7, 64GB Quartz Gray with "North American Warranty" as well as the famous "Passport 2.0"
Here's the deal...
They don't ship to Canada. Basically making that process worthless. I got a dead pixel after a month and a half. Discoloured on the right side of the screen. So Naturally I thought, no problem, let's get an RMA. This is what happened:
Started a Chat with ZTE USA > Not a problem he says. Does some troubleshooting. Says to call a number to get the RMA completed.
I call the number, ZTE USA > Not a problem he says. Processes everything. Asks for my address; "Oh sorry, we don't ship to Canada. Please contact the Canadian ZTE."
I call the Canadian Number and redirects me to ZTE USA again > I explain my situation, he understands. Tells me he still can't ship it to a Canadian Address. I escalate to a Manager.
Manager speaks for 2 minutes then disconnects the call.
Call once more. Average hold time is about 10 to 15 minutes btw. Get transferred back to the Manager.
Says he doesn't know why it says "North American Warranty" as it's only for the US. BUT THE ****ING CANADIAN WEBSITE SAYS PASSPORT SUPPORT TOO!!!
He gives me a link to some ZTE Authorized Center for Canada. They charge me $650 CAD and are shipping out a replacement. I'll get it soon. Then once I return my device, I'll be refunded the $650.
This is by far the ****tiest support I've gotten on a device that boasts having an amazing warranty. I might sell it once I have the replacement. **** this noise, I've never had an issue with OnePlus. Should've stuck with them. OPO was excellent. The OnePlus Two was good and the Three would be too.
****.
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Ok bye,
There are way to many whiners on the A7 board, everything from phone sucks because.... to I want CM now but don't want to contribute to its development. There was not nearly this level of whiners and reactionaries over on the GS3 board.... Ok done venting....
Hey you choose to make it hard for yourself, sorry you live in Canada and want to use US retailers, you should have bought the phone through a Canadian distributor if you didn't want a headache. You first clue should have been when new egg said no to shipping.
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This is by far the ****tiest support I've gotten on a device that boasts having an amazing warranty. I might sell it once I have the replacement. **** this noise, I've never had an issue with OnePlus. Should've stuck with them. OPO was excellent. The OnePlus Two was good and the Three would be too.
****.
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Can you please share your experience with other manufactures? How did OnePlus take care of your issue? Seems to me you got what you wanted from ZTE, you're getting your phone replace. What's the problem?
Looks like they went out of their way to honor a Canadian warranty when the phone was purchased at a US retailer.
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Hey you choose to make it hard for yourself, sorry you live in Canada and want to use US retailers, you should have bought the phone through a Canadian distributor if you didn't want a headache. You first clue should have been when new egg said no to shipping.
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B.S. newegg.ca is a Canadian distributor, charging local currency and tax and even have a local warehouse. It's not B&H or Jet.com.
choadtron11 said:
Hey you choose to make it hard for yourself, sorry you live in Canada and want to use US retailers, you should have bought the phone through a Canadian distributor if you didn't want a headache. You first clue should have been when new egg said no to shipping.
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Yea, that's BS. Newegg.ca is a Canadian distributor. Lets use a little brain power before replying to posts.
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Looks like they went out of their way to honor a Canadian warranty when the phone was purchased at a US retailer.
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Newegg.ca is not a US retailer...
Bye, we don't care. At this price point deal with the service or go buy a Pixel or Iphone. They have problems too but you may get them resolved sooner.
I live in Oz (Australia), this phone isn't even available here... Had to get it from o'seas.
Will be interesting if I ever have a problem, which thankfully I haven't...
Comments are unfairly passing blame on the OP. Let's put ourselves in his shoes: if your Axon had a warranty issue and the support number doesn't help you until you're escalated/transferred three times, with agents contradicting advertised warranty guarantees, you'd be upset.
Newegg.ca charges in Canadian dollars, charges Canadian tax, and advertised the Passport 2.0 program on the product page with all the details. There's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't get the same warranty service when the same Passport 2.0 program is advertised on the Canadian retailer.
To those saying "we don't care", we don't care that you don't care. It's important for Canadians to know this is what they'll be facing if they try to use ZTE's warranty, it was very useful that the OP posted this.
Even though it's terrible to charge as insurance for the advanced replacment, and it's deplorably poor service compared to what they're advertising, at least it's some warranty. That's more than Samsung Canada can say. My brand new Galaxy Nexus barely used for a few days got dead/stuck pixels and after 3 months of back and forth with Samsung Canada their "managers" told me that essentially they have no policy on dead pixels for phone screens, only TVs, so I can go **** myself they won't exchange it. This is after they had me send in the phone twice, and both times it was returned with the firmware downgraded to the oldest version possible.
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Ok bye,
There are way to many whiners on the A7 board, everything from phone sucks because.... to I want CM now but don't want to contribute to its development. There was not nearly this level of whiners and reactionaries over on the GS3 board.... Ok done venting....
Hey you choose to make it hard for yourself, sorry you live in Canada and want to use US retailers, you should have bought the phone through a Canadian distributor if you didn't want a headache. You first clue should have been when new egg said no to shipping.
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Are you serious right now fam? I have the full right to express my frustration as I purchased this from Newegg.ca (That's the Canadian Website if you can't tell). On the item page it states it's a North American Warranty. It states I have a Passport 2.0 Support. On the Official ZTE Page in Canada, it states I have those support options such as "Advanced RMA" yet they can't ship to Canada? They want me to drive to the border to pick out the replacement? Even though they are confirming in several places that the support is readily available.
Don't be sorry about me living in Canada. Be sorry about ZTE blatantly LYING to us stating they offer something they don't.
Just out of curiosity, what is passport 2.0? Is Newegg selling from US to Canada and that is where the confusion is? Maybe you can just return the phone and move on. If I couldn't get the support promised, I probably would too. It's tough because these midranges now have killer specs but crap customer service.
I just returned the Honor 8 because of loose and card holder. CS kept telling me I needed to hard reset the phone despite having done that and trying different cards. I just couldn't live with 32gb of storage and no SD card. It sucks because I like the size of the Honor 8.
To those speaking ignorantly, please note that Newegg, in Canada, is Axon 7's official retailer, and ZTE says so themselves. OP got all this trouble because of misleading advertising, not by his supposed carelessness.
Bull*** buddy.
ZTE has full passport warranty in Canada. I just got a phone of newegg.ca the bootloader on it went wonky on a OTA update.
I went to ZTE support, opened a chat and 10mis later I had all the info to get a free new phone shipped to me from Canada.
ZTE's warranty is done by dfComputers in toronto and they are quite helpful.
http://zte.dfcomputer.ca/create_service.php?warranty=in
They currently don't have stock of the phones but they will replace a broken phone for free with a new one or you can send your phone it to be repaired instead.
I didn't need to struggle for hours to get the info about the warranty, it was given to me right away.
compare ZTE's support to Oneplus for example and ZTE is 10x better.
I've had pretty good support from ZTE sofar, othe than a stock issue they've been very helpful.
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Are you serious right now fam? I have the full right to express my frustration as I purchased this from Newegg.ca (That's the Canadian Website if you can't tell). On the item page it states it's a North American Warranty. It states I have a Passport 2.0 Support. On the Official ZTE Page in Canada, it states I have those support options such as "Advanced RMA" yet they can't ship to Canada? They want me to drive to the border to pick out the replacement? Even though they are confirming in several places that the support is readily available.
Don't be sorry about me living in Canada. Be sorry about ZTE blatantly LYING to us stating they offer something they don't.
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I would blame newegg.ca before I blamed ZTE