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Manila 3d on Touch?

Hi folks,
i saw some threads in the development section for manila 2d (which really looks cool). I'm wondering if this works on my HTC Touch!? I'm also not sure if there is a cab install version available - or is a rom flash needed (don't want to do that again...)
has anybody already some experiance with manila 2d?
thanks for any information!

you'll notice that there's a thread a few posts down with the Title "touchFLO 2D on ELF" this is the same thing as Manila 2D. It's a simple cab install and works just fine.

Just try it you will love it.

Looks good, but it doesn't work as it should. On my Elfin Audio Mgr 2 doesn't start, system runs veeery slowly even after uninstalling TF2D (hard reset helps) and cable is causing system freeze :/

just tried it and it really looks cool! It works without any problems...
Sad thing is, that its not working together with any other today plugins...

Install SecondToday:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm

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Install SecondToday:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm
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yeah thats really cool! I have mapped the app to my camera button and so i can switch very fast - perfekt

Touchflow 3D
I also have some problems with this panel, after I installed it to my Xperia I have serious problems, it's look great but it's very slow and after open a few other panels my phone just block, I've to reset the Xperia and then I can go on, so I deside to uninstall it but now way it stay's, and after looking in my installed programms it is gone??? I can't uninstall it and I suppose that the only sollution could be a factory restore. I'ts a pitty it don't work like it should be cause I find it a great interface so if anyone could give us some advise they're welcome. I did install the second little program tf3d_panel but even that bring it to full speed and error free

manila on htc touch hd
As the title says, i run on my htc touch hd. where can i find a tutorial on how to install manila on this kind of phone step-by-step ? (tutorial for noobs as you may say) I am totally away from this phone technology and i've found a lot of posts but for htc touch and not touch hd. i want to know which files i must install, where i find them and how can i change the theme. Please, help a noob

Atharia said:
As the title says, i run on my htc touch hd. where can i find a tutorial on how to install manila on this kind of phone step-by-step ? (tutorial for noobs as you may say) I am totally away from this phone technology and i've found a lot of posts but for htc touch and not touch hd. i want to know which files i must install, where i find them and how can i change the theme. Please, help a noob
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Atharia,
Just as nobody has replied and I don't want you to be left in the dark
Have you checked anything in the blackstone forum? That would be a more appropriate place for you to be searching. I understand you may have search for HTC Touch, and that would probabaly be why you came here.
On the other hand though, I think you're phone may actually come with what had been ported to this phone - don't quote me on that but I am sure that it had touchflo as standard?
Stu

Need plain 6.5 rom with just touch flo 3d

hello everybody.
I have been absent for so long time but I was too busy to follow up all your work guys.
I have 2 simple questions that couldnt be answered by a little search I did.
I am looking for the fastest more stable and plain wm 6.5 rom with only touch flo 3d on it.
I am not a heavy user of this pda. It is mostly used as a simple phone and a gps navigator using destinator 7. (i may switch to i-go 8 in the near future)
I really do basic stuff so I really dont need all the nice goodies you preinstall on the cooked roms I have read about.
i forgot to mention that i currently have my touch cruise with
official rom wm 6.1 3.13.405.0 WWE
radio 1.59.42.15
Any help?
p.s. sorry if my search wasnt good enough but I was absent for a year and a half and it seems really difficult to discover the exact things I am asking.
cheerios

hm......i have succesfully installed hard-spl and also succesfully installed latest radio rom 1.59.46.12
i also installed succesfully pcarvalho's rom. now only thing to do is to find a clean 6.5 rom. I saw that installing the driver for touch flo 3d is really easy.
sigh...i feel sleepy now but at least i didnt bother any of you guys with my silly first questions

I'm not a pro here but have been following that 3D driver development for Polaris and tested that TF3D port on my Cruise. Unfortunately current TF3D on Polaris is good only for testing/fun/lulz/whatever and a lot of headache in everyday use (the first second I saw it, I knew I couldn't live with that slowness and bugness every day ).
My unpretentious advice is you better get latest pcarvalho's 6.5 rom (usin it for everyday - works good) and install Manila 2D v2.0 from HTC Mega on top of that. You may also consider the Kostas244-Rom with Manila 2D v.2 already cooked in there. As for those tons of extra stuff - I don't need it either but just don't mind it being there if it doesn't hit RAM or processor time too hard
P.S. My opinion is the dream of properly working TF3D on Polaris will never come true :sigh
Cheers!

thanks for the response mate.
I will try kostas's rom later this week.for now i am pleased in general with pcarvalho's one.

Please let us know how you get on - I would like to do the same thing.

with full wm6.5 coming out now, I'd like a clean light 6.5 too.
Need more memory.
Just the plain stuff, with .net and not so many apps installed, just the defaults from htc like opera and quickgps.

looking for a post on just what "manila" and "sense" are...

I keep seeing these buzzwords, but can't find a single scrap of info on what they are...I mean before I can learn the difference between Sense 2.1 and 2.5 I'd like to know what Sense is in the first place.
I "think" Manila is a codeword for the Touch Flo app, but I wasn't sure...any help would be appriciated.

Tofferbear said:
I keep seeing these buzzwords, but can't find a single scrap of info on what they are...I mean before I can learn the difference between Sense 2.1 and 2.5 I'd like to know what Sense is in the first place.
I "think" Manila is a codeword for the Touch Flo app, but I wasn't sure...any help would be appriciated.
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Well, first off. i moved you over to the software area since the section you posted in was rom develoupment.. this answer is more simple and can be found just by searching..
Serious, if you search sense 2.1 or sense 2.5, you'll find i'm sure plenty of screenshots.
next off you can flash the roms in the rhodium section and find out exactly how to use them.
and touchflo-manilla-sense are all the same thing, just different versions as you can see via the screenshots on many of the threads around here.
I wish you happiness in your flashing,
Josh

joshkoss said:
Well, first off. i moved you over to the software area since the section you posted in was rom develoupment.. this answer is more simple and can be found just by searching..
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Ah yes...that probably would have improved my luck when searching. Doh! Thank you for moving the thread to the correct location and giving me the quick and dirty explination.

Tofferbear said:
Ah yes...that probably would have improved my luck when searching. Doh! Thank you for moving the thread to the correct location and giving me the quick and dirty explination.
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yea sorry, it was a bit dirty. .. basically try flashin.. it's great..
Peace,
Josh

joshkoss said:
yea sorry, it was a bit dirty. .. basically try flashin.. it's great..
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Oh yeah, I've been flashing my Fuze for some time now...just waiting for the Hard SPL folks to help me...it won't install for some silly reason and I got a trouble ticket in with them to get it figured out. hehehe.
Can you suggest anyone's ROM in specific? I've been using NATF's ROMs on my Fuze and loved them...but he's working on CDMA stuff currently so I guess I need to peruse someone elses efforts for the TP2. hehehe.
Oh yeah...another thing I've been having trouble finding info on is what the difference is between EnergyROM's Leo and Photon ROM's...I think I've read through the entire thread's of both posts and it's never mentioned. hehehe.

Tofferbear said:
Can you suggest anyone's ROM in specific?
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and now after I look at your sig I guess I could just try the ROM you made first.

Rom is all personal preference. It all depends on what you want to your phone for and your personal taste. It takes a lot of flashing to find the right cook for you.
My personal choice is Josh in here for TP2, been using his ROMs from Hermes days...

joshkoss said:
... and touchflo-manilla-sense are all the same thing, just different versions
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So (he said, scratching his head) does this mean that TF3d 2.1.x == Manila 2.1.x == Sense 2.1.x? Or are the versions more subtle than that, such that (for example, not designed to reflect reality) 2.1.189 == TF3D; 2.1.190 == Manila; 2.1.191 == Sense?

Tofferbear said:
I "think" Manila is a codeword for the Touch Flo app, but I wasn't sure...any help would be appriciated.
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Manila, TouchFLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.

ahhh, the light goes on, thank you.

Tofferbear said:
Oh yeah, I've been flashing my Fuze for some time now...just waiting for the Hard SPL folks to help me...it won't install for some silly reason and I got a trouble ticket in with them to get it figured out. hehehe.
Can you suggest anyone's ROM in specific? I've been using NATF's ROMs on my Fuze and loved them...but he's working on CDMA stuff currently so I guess I need to peruse someone elses efforts for the TP2. hehehe.
Oh yeah...another thing I've been having trouble finding info on is what the difference is between EnergyROM's Leo and Photon ROM's...I think I've read through the entire thread's of both posts and it's never mentioned. hehehe.
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LEO is the Manila2.5 flavor of the rom from the HD2
PHOTON is the Manila2.1 flavor which now has the weather clock from Manila2.5, This version also come in a Chrome/Titanium only version.

brycestejskal said:
LEO is the Manila2.5 flavor of the rom from the HD2
PHOTON is the Manila2.1 flavor which now has the weather clock from Manila2.5, This version also come in a Chrome/Titanium only version.
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Thanks...I didn't know that. Someone on the Photon thread also mentioned that the Leo doesn't use the slide out keyboard either...makes sense if it's for the HD2.

Shasarak said:
Manila, TouchFLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
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Wow...you need to write that up for a sticky post or something...that's the most definative answer I've ever seen about it. Thx!

Shasarak said:
Manila, TouchFLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
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I second that comment
Cheers for a Great Explanation The best I read so far
This should be put in all the HTC users manuals from now on.
Thanks

It is ABOUT TIME someone wrote this!
Shasarak said:
Manila, Touch FLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
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Yes, everyone could glean this info after days/weeks reading ROM Development forums, but thats not the point. When you come in a room in the middle of a complex discussion, it's really nice when someone stops the group and catches you up. By reading and making inferences, I have HTC's code-names mostly straight in my mind, but a post like this, (or one just like it) as part of the 1st page of EVERY HTC DEVICE'S ROM Development Page would help a lot of people. A side effect would be a reduction in the amount of stupid questions.
Yes, HTC likes to try and keep things fresh, by putting a new name, a new spin and a new face on basically the same concepts they have been pedaling since TouchFlo was introduced.
Heck, I work at IBM: Netfinity, eServer, X-Series, System X - whats different? Nothing. Whats in a name? A lot. Its how you make whats old new again!
Even works in reverse. Microsoft said when introducing Windows 95:
No more General Protection Faults (GPFs)! That was true. They just started calling them "Illegal Operations" (remember those?)

i try to search ALOT before asking questions on this forum...if you don't, the super geeks will strike...!!!
most here are friendly and courteous...i just ask all to remember that not everyone on these boards are tech freaks & non-searchers (if that is a word)...
i have used this site for a few years and have yet to flash a device...that may be about to change...

Go for it! Flashing has a LOT to offer
da9th_one said:
i try to search ALOT before asking questions on this forum...if you don't, the super geeks will strike...!!!
most here are friendly and courteous...i just ask all to remember that not everyone on these boards are tech freaks & non-searchers (if that is a word)...
i have used this site for a few years and have yet to flash a device...that may be about to change...
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My experience with flashing has been good, if sometimes a bit frustrating. The cooks are very willing to accomodate ideas, fix things and generally give you what you want and need. However, most are always in the hunt for "the next great thing" (which we all are, in way) and that hunt sometimes causes things to get left behind.
Tell you what, I realized just the other day that if I am ever going to get my device to exactly where I want it (which changes for me too, from time to time) I am going to have to start cooking. Yes, I will have to learn a lot more and mistakes are iminent (as long as I don't brick my Touch Pro2 in the process) But my desires are not alltruistic. I just want things the way I want them LOL.

Let me just add my thanks to the finest set of very few words that truly made a difference.

Several people have been very kind about post #9 in this thread. I don't know that it really deserves all this positive attention, but it is appreciated, and you are all welcome.

I currently have a AT&T Tilt 2...

with the Touchflo 2.1. I hate the calendar (month and day only) and want to know if there is a 2.5 download for the Tilt 2? I have seen others but they are for non-Tilt phones (Leo and Topaz). Also, I have Pocket Informant from a previous Tilt (TyTn II) and would prefer to use that for my calendar and contacts. Can I make these the default or am I stuck with the Touchflo versions?

I contacted HTC this morning...
and 2.5 is not compatible with the Tilt 2. Also they cannot/will not assist on changing the default calendar/contacts to a 3rd party application such as Pocket Informant.
Does anyone here have any advice and another course of action?

Have a look around the Rhodium ROM development forum. You CAN upgrade to Manila 2.5 (though the landscape version is still a bit buggy) and it will invalidate your warranty...

I have looked but not sure
what I'm looking for. I have searched Manilla 2.5 and Touchflo 2.5 but cannot get any hits on these queries.

StoneyBK said:
what I'm looking for. I have searched Manilla 2.5 and Touchflo 2.5 but cannot get any hits on these queries.
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TouchFlo 2.5

Ok, but this is for the Diamond
Will is work on the Tilt 2? There was another Touchflo 2.5 developed by someone called "udk" but it was designed for the Leo and Topaz stating it will not work on the Tilt 2.
I realize I'm asking a lot of questions but I'm a relative noob and don't want to screw up my phone.
I see all these different versions (blackstone, leo, topaz) and have no idea if they are phones or operating systems, however I DO the difference between a Fuze, Pure Tilt 2 and Touch Pro 2.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476
this is the main thread for manila 2.5, some people have tried to use it on the tilt 2, and there are a few glitches, but nothing show stopping

Thanks, I'll give it a look
when I get home as I'm on my work pc and cannot sync with it.

just to make sure that it is clear,
Manila 2.5 = touchFlo 2.5 (it is better known as Sense 2.5)
Manila 2.1 = touchFlo 2.1 (it is better known as Sense 2.1)
so if you saw Sense 2.1 know its Manila 2.1 & touchFlo 2.1 .. just different faces for the same coin ...

dazultra2000 said:
Have a look around the Rhodium ROM development forum. You CAN upgrade to Manila 2.5 (though the landscape version is still a bit buggy) and it will invalidate your warranty...
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It will not invalidate your warranty! As long as you flash back and remove hardspl, you will still be able to get the unit fixed under warranty. It is the same with computers with upgrades and OS changes. Bring it back to factory and there will not be any issue.

StoneyBK said:
Will is work on the Tilt 2? There was another Touchflo 2.5 developed by someone called "udk" but it was designed for the Leo and Topaz stating it will not work on the Tilt 2.
I realize I'm asking a lot of questions but I'm a relative noob and don't want to screw up my phone.
I see all these different versions (blackstone, leo, topaz) and have no idea if they are phones or operating systems, however I DO the difference between a Fuze, Pure Tilt 2 and Touch Pro 2.
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The info on Blackstone, Leo, Topaz etc. is all here on this very site. Look in the Wiki, or Device database and you will see that the names refer to the different phones. The only ROMs you should be using are for Rhodium (HTC's internal development name), AT&T Tilt2 and Touch Pro2. Also be aware that there are CDMA versions of the Touch Pro2. Flash a non GSM version to your phone and you may brick it. If you have a Telus, Sprint or other CDMA version of the TP2, you can flash a GSM ROM to it, but you have to have a sim card to use it. You cannot flash a GSM phone to a CDMA as there is no built in hardware.

KPoon said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476
this is the main thread for manila 2.5, some people have tried to use it on the tilt 2, and there are a few glitches, but nothing show stopping
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The recent T-Mobile ROM that had been leaked has landscape built in by HTC. The link you gave is no longer needed as most cooks are using the T-Mobile leaked 2.5 sense version.

[Q] Xend Touch Flo s/w help for HTC elf 100

Hi all forum members,
I found this s/w XEND Touch Flo which actually changes the touch flo theme to a red color is exiting to see as am bored with the regular pre installed blue color.
I have HTC Touch P3452 (Elf 100) and am not able to install this.
Can anyone give me a link to download the correct file and the steps to be followed to install it in my elf.
Looking forward to hear from all of you.
I hope the developers can answer this to the best.
Also is there any other way or s/w which can be used in my elf to change the look and feel of my touch flow - I guess my touch flo is a 2D version and my elf has WM 6.1 with Qvga........

Joyjeet, our devices are 3 years old (dinosaurs in terms of smartphones) and touchflo has been removed from all cooked roms because of inefficiency and appetite for ram. All this to tell you there are very few ppl who actually know about touchflo

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Joyjeet, our devices are 3 years old (dinosaurs in terms of smartphones) and touchflo has been removed from all cooked roms because of inefficiency and appetite for ram. All this to tell you there are very few ppl who actually know about touchflo
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Tito - your information is nice but am not getting the answer to my question.
I want to know few things
First is how to use this xend red touch flo theme in my elf 100.
I want to know of how to upgrade my WM 6.1 to WM 6.5
I want to use the 3D version of touch flo or atleast a way to change the boring looking blue theme of touch flo present in my elf 100
I need changes

Hi
I can only answer to your 2nd question that is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540, imho these are the best ones. Read the faq and post your device info 1st.