G1 Warranty - G1 General

At first I wasn't going to post this but decided to go ahead and share this. I know everyone knows about getting the warranty exchange through the insurance with T-Mobile. Well I dropped my phone this morning and it wouldn't come back on. I called T-Mobile up and was going to go through the insurance, but decided to call up some local T-Mobile stores and see what they could do. I called one store and asked if they had any G1's in stock and they said they did then told them I already talked to customer service and wanted to see if they could exchange out the phone due to me dropping it and it won't come on. They told me that was physical damage and that would have to go through there insurance. Then I called another store and told them the same thing except I said I woke up this morning and the phone wouldn't turn on. They told me to come in and they would change it out with a new one. So instead of going through the insurance and waiting a couple days I was able to get a new one an hour after I broke mine. I'm sorry but I love my phone to much to go a couple days without it even though I have another cell phone. So the point to all this is if you play dumb and you got a brick or just a broke phone you should be able to go to the store and exchange it out. I know it won't work if your not a T-Mo customer. But that was so much easier than having to wait then ship your old one back. And oh yea I've had it since Nov. so I wan't in any grace period. Time to reroot tonight.

I have a legitimate problem with my phone and a medical reason within the family that requires cell phones 24/7 (long story). At any rate, not only has every T-Mo store in town refused to do an exchange (citing policy), T-Mo customer service has been a real pain in the ass about the whole exchange.
No offense, but cheating the system like this is probably the reason that T-Mo instituted the mail exchange policy in the first place. It's acts like that makes it more difficult on people trying to do the right thing.
I don't think your advice is wise, I don't think it's something you should share around here. And I certainly don't think it's something to boast about.

First off I ain't boasting about it. I'm not cheating the system. I called up customer service first and told them my situation. And I asked them if I was able to call a local store and see if they could do it. She told me to give it a shot. I gave it a shot and it worked. Its an option to try and I shared it. So now quit your crying.

Then I called another store and told them the same thing except I said I woke up this morning and the phone wouldn't turn on.
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That's called lying.
That makes you a liar.
They told you it had to be done by insurance, but you cheated the system.
And if you didn't think it was wrong, why were you reluctant to post about it ?
I'll hold my morals over yours any day of the week.

Hey it's not lying. I just didn't disclose all the info. And plus when I called customer service the noted my account with it saying I dropped it. And guess what they had to pull my account up when I exchanged it. Go ahead and tell everyone in the brick thread that there morals are wrong to. Cause all those people that got bricks had to lie because warranty won't cover rooted phones with custom roms. Way to be the moral police your a stand up guy. Hopefully I'll be able to sleep tonight.

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blueheeler... your really arguing over a story... haha. ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS! People do things differently, so let the man tell his story, you dont agree with it, but you dont have to come at the guy like xda nominated you as the moral police lol.
If the issue is a moral issue, we are all guilty, every person who roots and roms their phones, werent supposed to, but we did, so if you look at it from your perspective your just as guilty as the next man.

You don't get it and probably never will.
It's your choice to be unethical. Fine.
Karma's a *****.

cire253 said:
blueheeler... your really arguing over a story... haha. ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS! People do things differently, so let the man tell his story, you dont agree with it, but you dont have to come at the guy like xda nominated you as the moral police lol.
If the issue is a moral issue, we are all guilty, every person who roots and roms their phones, werent supposed to, but we did, so if you look at it from your perspective your just as guilty as the next man.
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Thank you.

cire253 said:
blueheeler... your really arguing over a story... haha. ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS! People do things differently, so let the man tell his story, you dont agree with it, but you dont have to come at the guy like xda nominated you as the moral police lol.
If the issue is a moral issue, we are all guilty, every person who roots and roms their phones, werent supposed to, but we did, so if you look at it from your perspective your just as guilty as the next man.
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True enough.
Hadn't thought about that.
Apologies.

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Sprint stores

Hey, long time lurker, first time poster..I think...may have posted before, I forget..
The point?
Oh yeah where was I.
So I walk into my local sprint store(small kind, not a repair center) to get a case for my Hero. I strike up a conversation with the two guys working there after the show the only Hero case they have and how ghastly it looks. Sprint guy A see my phone and in pure phonefanboyism freaks out and it went a little like this:
Sprint Guy A "ZOMGZ you have froyo one that thing!!!!! how did you get that!!!!??"
Me "um, well it's CyanogenMod, custom firmware"
Sprint guy B "So you voided your warranty instead of buying an Evo?"
Me "no, and no?"
Sprint guy A "How would I go about doing this *pulls out his Hero*"
Sprint guy B "Yeah actually, I'm kinda interested in this"
Me "you guys seriously don't know how to do this?"
Both Sprint guys "no."
Long story short they let me use the computer there to install CM6.0 on both phones.
I'm worries me that sprint employees would know even the basics of at least being able to reflash a backup or even have heard of the Android SDK.
this stuff doesn't void your warranty anymore. sprint techs are idiots anyways.
jvanherwaarden said:
Hey, long time lurker, first time poster..I think...may have posted before, I forget..
The point?
Oh yeah where was I.
So I walk into my local sprint store(small kind, not a repair center) to get a case for my Hero. I strike up a conversation with the two guys working there after the show the only Hero case they have and how ghastly it looks. Sprint guy A see my phone and in pure phonefanboyism freaks out and it went a little like this:
Sprint Guy A "ZOMGZ you have froyo one that thing!!!!! how did you get that!!!!??"
Me "um, well it's CyanogenMod, custom firmware"
Sprint guy B "So you voided your warranty instead of buying an Evo?"
Me "no, and no?"
Sprint guy A "How would I go about doing this *pulls out his Hero*"
Sprint guy B "Yeah actually, I'm kinda interested in this"
Me "you guys seriously don't know how to do this?"
Both Sprint guys "no."
Long story short they let me use the computer there to install CM6.0 on both phones.
I'm worries me that sprint employees would know even the basics of at least being able to reflash a backup or even have heard of the Android SDK.
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So..you expected some super geeks to be working there ?
Seriously..that is like expecting one of BB high school kids to know anything about whatever department they happen to be walking through.
I've found the vast majority of folks don't have a clue about what can be done to these phones..so I wouldn't expect someone at a non-repair center to have much insight on how to do these things either..Most of the kids working at the stores know how to send a phone off to be repaired by someone else..and the rest ,how to give wrong information to the customer,course most phone stores are like this now-a-days anyhow..not only Sprint.
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fixxxer2008 said:
this stuff doesn't void your warranty anymore. sprint techs are idiots anyways.
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Definitely still does brother
I always amaze the sprint peeps when im up there.. kinda like going to best buy friday.. My wife needed a cheap laptop for nursing school.. they kept pushing those crappy netbooks..then the warranties.. then add virus this and that, etc.. Im like go so mad.. I told that lady.. hey we will take this crappy laptop thats on sale..she doesnt want a netbook.. and everything else u can keep... she got mad.. I was like she only needs the laptop.. dont need a stupid warranty nor your stupid geek squat!!!thats a waste of money... She was like well what will u do when i breaks.. I will ah u know fix it.lol
Same thing goes for sprint people in the store.. that dont know crap... the evo will do this and that. Im like true but why when my hero does everything i want it to!!! oh. your still on the old ass hero.lol etc.. some people I tell ya..
point is.. dont buy from stupid people,lol hahah ok sorry rant over.. meds have kicked in..
My understanding of the new law that was passed is..
Carriers can't withhold unlock codes for your devices. Hacking or disrrupting the software otherwise beyond the code will void the warranty. Which is why if you call up and ask for the MSL (i think, not sure what the name was for it) they will just give it to you.
Edit: After reading some posts, seems like it will void your warranty with HTC. otherwise sprint doesn't care.
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My understanding of the new law that was passed is..
Carriers can't withhold unlock codes for your devices. Hacking or disrrupting the software otherwise beyond the code will void the warranty. Which is why if you call up and ask for the MSL (i think, not sure what the name was for it) they will just give it to you.
Edit: After reading some posts, seems like it will void your warranty with HTC. otherwise sprint doesn't care.
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sprint doesn't give two ****s. 90% of the techs i know have rooted phones anyways.
DirtyShroomz said:
Definitely still does brother
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to my understanding it didn't anymore. if your right hopefully that will change.
fixxxer2008 said:
to my understanding it didn't anymore. if your right hopefully that will change.
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While Sprint doesn't care, it does still void warranty with Sprint. Root your phone we don't cover you. Just like a car, modify it and warranty is voided. It would be silly for a company to try and warranty each and every single home manufacture modification.... they would lose millions replacing phones
Dude, same thing happened when i went to my local sprint store. But i went in to complain about lack of official froyo. Pulled out my hero and did the same thing. [email protected] sprint store, lawlz
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Dude, same thing happened when i went to my local sprint store. But i went in to complain about lack of official froyo. Pulled out my hero and did the same thing. [email protected] sprint store, lawlz
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You went into a Sprint store to complain about lack of Froyo for the Hero? I woulda hated you're ass.
it all depends on what tech you get and what store you go to. ive had techs show me their custom roms before. most are tech geeks like us, they don't give a ****. now if i were to send my phone back to sprint i would run the RUU. and believe it or not sprint knows very well about xda and the good work that goes on here. **** htc should hire some of ours guys.
From what I've read about the recent library of congress ruling all that changed was it is no longer illegal to jailbreak our devices. It was previously a crime under the DMCA to jailbreak our phones, and your phone manufacturer/service provider could sue you for jail breaking or rooting. (A bunch of BS if you ask me!)
While it is now legal to root/jailbreak you might still be violating the warranty or your carriers terms of service. I've read that Sprint was cracking down on people that rooted and installed the wireless tethering app. (also more BS if i'm paying for wireless data, then let me F*ing use it!)
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im a sprint employee, luckily for me i do know this however what they teach you at these things solely based on what the guy above you that trained you knows...in most of these cases they dont know much away from what they read in the manuals...once in a while you get a savvy employee such as myself that knows more than what they teach you...if it wasnt for the fact that the guy running my center has been with sprint for 11 years and doesnt want a corporate job i think i would run that center but thats a different story involving politcs....long story short...it depends which store and who you speak to..
I didn't complain. I went in wanting to but the tech/sales guy I talked to wanted all the info about getting froyo on his hero. I hooked him up and pointed him to xda. He was scared he was going to brick his phone. I told him just follow the instructions and you'll be fine. Should go back up they and see how he did.
Sent from my Hero running cm6 9/6/ nightly build. Blackmod, circle battery. D3cadence uncapped # 11. Sprint can lick my balls. Thank darch and cyanogen for setting my hero free!
I concur w/ micavez07. I work at a sprint kiosk and some of the people I work with would look at you cross-eyed if you brought a hero in running live wallpaper. I personally use a hero running cm6 as my daily phone.
I almost started a new thread, but then decided my story wasn't quite funny enough to get it's own thread, so here it is:
Phone broke about a month ago. The screen's colors suddenly went all wacky. When I touched the screen it was even worse. Tried a few different resets, nothing worked. Finally took it in this morning to the local Sprint store. I pay for the TEP. They take my phone into the back room and a bit later a guy comes out and says that there is no water damage, so they can replace it for free. They say it'll take about a week before they get my new phone and that they'll call when it comes in. They then give me my phone back. I turn back on my phone and get in my car to go to work. Phone starts making that beeping sound that says it's coming in and out of service. Then it finally decides that I have no service and I get the circle with the bar slash through it. So i turn it on and off, take out the battery, even do a factory reset. Finally I call the Sprint store and ask them what they did to my phone. It ends up they disconnected my attena when they were checking to see about water damage. Now I get to go back to the store on my lunch. Pretty funny, right?
Actually, I'm not laughing.....should i try to get a credit or something for the inconvience?
Krojian said:
I almost started a new thread, but then decided my story wasn't quite funny enough to get it's own thread, so here it is:
Phone broke about a month ago. The screen's colors suddenly went all wacky. When I touched the screen it was even worse. Tried a few different resets, nothing worked. Finally took it in this morning to the local Sprint store. I pay for the TEP. They take my phone into the back room and a bit later a guy comes out and says that there is no water damage, so they can replace it for free. They say it'll take about a week before they get my new phone and that they'll call when it comes in. They then give me my phone back. I turn back on my phone and get in my car to go to work. Phone starts making that beeping sound that says it's coming in and out of service. Then it finally decides that I have no service and I get the circle with the bar slash through it. So i turn it on and off, take out the battery, even do a factory reset. Finally I call the Sprint store and ask them what they did to my phone. It ends up they disconnected my attena when they were checking to see about water damage. Now I get to go back to the store on my lunch. Pretty funny, right?
Actually, I'm not laughing.....should i try to get a credit or something for the inconvience?
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You have all the right to ask for a credit since THEY did it. Complain nicely buy also don't back down. They'll want to make you happy before you leave and lose business.
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man they wernt nice to me when they kicked me from there network lmao.... freakin basturds

Bad ESN, now what?

So I found a person on Craigslist who had a Droid 2 for sale, good deal. So I met up with him, checked out the phone, everything looked good. I called Verizon before making the exchange for the phone and verified the ESN was clear. I get home and try to activate the phone and can't. I called Verizon back and this time I'm being told the phone is still allocated to an account but not active, probably someone who didn't pay a bill would be my guess. It's still early and I haven't tried contacting the person I purchased it from, but providing that falls through what are my options? Or are there any?
I've had verizon for almost 12 years now, can't say I've had the best experience but this just takes the prize. First guy says yes, second person says no, I'm probably out money. ><
Be careful. It could either be stolen or his and he could be filing a claim that the phone was stolen so document everything from the transaction to ensure you don't end up in the wrong. I'm not sure if anything can be done if you have a linked but not active ESN.
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Be careful. It could either be stolen or his and he could be filing a claim that the phone was stolen so document everything from the transaction to ensure you don't end up in the wrong. I'm not sure if anything can be done if you have a linked but not active ESN.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App
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Yea I kinda figure that I'm out some cash and got a nifty paperweight now. I'm calling VZW to raise hell since one person told me it was clean, and the other told me the truth about it. Nothing will probably come of it, but at least I get to ***** at them for it. I did manage to get the guy I bought it from to tell me earlier today that it was on his wifes account and that she needed the money from getting rid of the phone to buy another and have it activated. Of course he hasn't returned any of my follow up calls asking when this is going to happen. Unfortunately this isn't someone I know, but do feel like giving him the ass beating of his lifetime.
Oh well, I should have tried to activate it myself on the spot so I guess you live you learn.
By the way, I've got this new thing called an Android Paperweight that runs OS 2.2 if you're interested in buying it let me know (j/k)
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Yea I kinda figure that I'm out some cash and got a nifty paperweight now. I'm calling VZW to raise hell since one person told me it was clean, and the other told me the truth about it. Nothing will probably come of it, but at least I get to ***** at them for it. I did manage to get the guy I bought it from to tell me earlier today that it was on his wifes account and that she needed the money from getting rid of the phone to buy another and have it activated. Of course he hasn't returned any of my follow up calls asking when this is going to happen. Unfortunately this isn't someone I know, but do feel like giving him the ass beating of his lifetime.
Oh well, I should have tried to activate it myself on the spot so I guess you live you learn.
By the way, I've got this new thing called an Android Paperweight that runs OS 2.2 if you're interested in buying it let me know (j/k)
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Honestly, if it ends up being a bad ESN and you aren't ever able to activate it you could probably sell it to a developer to recuperate some of the cost. You probably wont get it all but I'm sure you could get a nice chunk back.
kwheel596 said:
Honestly, if it ends up being a bad ESN and you aren't ever able to activate it you could probably sell it to a developer to recuperate some of the cost. You probably wont get it all but I'm sure you could get a nice chunk back.
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I wouldn't even know where to start, but good suggestion, thanks.
I called VZW a few minutes ago to complain and found out that the person I spoke with last night didn't log anything in our account indicating a call and regarding what. The person I spoke with earlier today did. I just wish everyone knew how to do their job properly to make sure everyone in my situation ends up with the best possible results, and not out some money that could be used elsewhere.
So if life I guess
How much does it take to buy the phone..... paper weight
rdking said:
How much does it take to buy the phone..... paper weight
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At risk of being ridiculed over what I paid for the said item I'll take offers via PM For the time being I'm still holding out on the dream it will one day soon be functional.
put it on ebay you can still get a couple hundred bucks out of a droid 2 with a bad esn
Good luck man, I hope it will be activated soon!
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First things first, never buy a CL phone unless you activate it on the SPOT. Regardless if the 'account is late on payment' or whatever that doesn't mean they can blacklist the phone from activating on the network.
If it is a insurance claim phone it can never be used and you are SOL, but if it's stolen I'd call Verizon again and have them contact whoever owns that phone to call you. You seem like an intelligent person, not some kid posting on here, and having VZW for 12 years confirms that. Do the right thing and contact the owner should it be stolen. Maybe work something out?
You could always use it with a different carrier or sell it to someone who wants to use it on a different carrier..
They flash over to cricket easily, probly to sprint or u.s. cellular also
Doesnt matter what the esn says in verizons system when going somewhere else
If you complain enough they will *SOMETIMES* allow you to swap it for a replacement with a clean ESN, though not always. You could also try going into a store and telling them you got ripped off and seeing if they have a carrier return laying that they might be willing to replace your bad one with, Verizon themselves doesn't care about blacklisted ESN's once they have them, they just simply remove it from the blacklist and sell it off
Streak 7 bad ESN
May be an stupid coment, but just by curiosity: when you change the ROM for some custom ROM , the STK7 is not by default unlocked?.
Mr. Cell Phone Unlocker
If you are willing to pay $75, I stumbled across this site that will do it.
Reputable company, but I make no guarantees of their effectiveness. Never tried it either.
Might be worth a shot
http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/V2/products.php?product=Verizon_ESN

3rd Replacement = Damaged Again... What Gives?!

So, my launch day EVO started collecting dust under the screen on the top left corner and I took it to a local Sprint store to get it repaired. They put a screen that was all scratched and dented on the sides on and assumed I would be satisfied with it. Wrong!
After forcing them to put my old one back (apparently they didn't have any other in store), I called Sprint and got them to send me a replacement phone.
Phone came in and I noticed heavy scratches on the camera and the kickstand was completely loose (would open up by itself). Got them to send me another replacement...
Phone arrived last week with the bottom of the glass completely loose. I could lift it with my nail. Called and after *****ing for hours, I got them to send me yet another replacement...
Phone came in with exactly the same symptom. What's going on? I don't know what else to do from here on out. I know it is technically not Sprint's fault, but this is getting ridiculous. I thought my experiences with the Palm Pre were bad... that was nothing.
Now I know they most likely will not send me yet another phone unless I take it to a store. That's going to be another 5-hour ordeal. Is there any way I can get a new device or a fully-functional refurb? I tried retentions and they said there was nothing they could do. =/
akarol said:
So, my launch day EVO started collecting dust under the screen on the top left corner and I took it to a local Sprint store to get it repaired. They put a screen that was all scratched and dented on the sides on and assumed I would be satisfied with it. Wrong!
After forcing them to put my old one back (apparently they didn't have any other in store), I called Sprint and got them to send me a replacement phone.
Phone came in and I noticed heavy scratches on the camera and the kickstand was completely loose (would open up by itself). Got them to send me another replacement...
Phone arrived last week with the bottom of the glass completely loose. I could lift it with my nail. Called and after *****ing for hours, I got them to send me yet another replacement...
Phone came in with exactly the same symptom. What's going on? I don't know what else to do from here on out. I know it is technically not Sprint's fault, but this is getting ridiculous. I thought my experiences with the Palm Pre were bad... that was nothing.
Now I know they most likely will not send me yet another phone unless I take it to a store. That's going to be another 5-hour ordeal. Is there any way I can get a new device or a fully-functional refurb? I tried retentions and they said there was nothing they could do. =/
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The only way is with the Asurion process.
If you call *2 and explain the situation they may refund all, most likely part, of the $100 deductible.
I suggest it though.
mattykinsx said:
The only way is with the Asurion process.
If you call *2 and explain the situation they may refund all, most likely part, of the $100 deductible.
I suggest it though.
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I thought Asurion sends out refurbs sometimes though?
ffolkes said:
I thought Asurion sends out refurbs sometimes though?
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I've only received brand new replacements.
I've never heard of them sending out refurbs.
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I've only received brand new replacements.
I've never heard of them sending out refurbs.
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That might not be a bad idea after all.
UPDATE: I just spoke to what appeared to be a thug on the other end of the line at Sprint's Tech Support. A nice thug at that. After decrypting our conversation through his strong ebonics, I understood that he created an eTicket (which I received online already) and told me to present it to the store clerk where I will be handed a brand new device. Is this possible? On the ticket it states:
Description of Issue:
Battery Damaged/Swollen/Cracked
Battery Won't Charge
Which is nothing related to my issues and will be apparent when they see it. I sounded skeptical but he assured me that it would work. For me to bring all my stuff (box if I have it, cables, manuals, etc) because I will be handed a brand new one when I get there. I'm still skeptical but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Anyone experience something similar?
Also, he told me I can go to an affiliate store for this (doesn't have to be corporate). Should I even bother? I feel they're less prone to handing me a new device.
I really hope it works out as I don't want to go through the hassle of unrooting and erasing my phone to see that nothing happened.
Finally, will a corporate store have newer phones than affiliated stores or vice versa? If I'm getting something new, I want it to be brand spankin' knew to make sure they worked out all the kinks.
Thanks again!
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That might not be a bad idea after all.
UPDATE: I just spoke to what appeared to be a thug on the other end of the line at Sprint's Tech Support. A nice thug at that. After decrypting our conversation through his strong ebonics, I understood that he created an eTicket (which I received online already) and told me to present it to the store clerk where I will be handed a brand new device. Is this possible? On the ticket it states:
Description of Issue:
Battery Damaged/Swollen/Cracked
Battery Won't Charge
Which is nothing related to my issues and will be apparent when they see it. I sounded skeptical but he assured me that it would work. For me to bring all my stuff (box if I have it, cables, manuals, etc) because I will be handed a brand new one when I get there. I'm still skeptical but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Anyone experience something similar?
Also, he told me I can go to an affiliate store for this (doesn't have to be corporate). Should I even bother? I feel they're less prone to handing me a new device.
I really hope it works out as I don't want to go through the hassle of unrooting and erasing my phone to see that nothing happened.
Finally, will a corporate store have newer phones than affiliated stores or vice versa? If I'm getting something new, I want it to be brand spankin' knew to make sure they worked out all the kinks.
Thanks again!
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That's about the setchiest thing I've ever read lol
mattykinsx said:
I've only received brand new replacements.
I've never heard of them sending out refurbs.
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All depends on stock. They will most certainly send out Refurbs. But they send new too.
Dust under screen doesn't sound so bad now, does it.
mswlogo said:
Dust under screen doesn't sound so bad now, does it.
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Dust under the screen means that the screen is coming apart.
Eventually that will lead to touchscreen failure or something of the kind.
Getting that fixed is more preventative.
Plus, you pay $200 + for a device, you don't deserve to have a sub-standard device.
OT: what exactly made the guy a thug?
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OT: what exactly made the guy a thug?
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The numerous dawgs, yos, and the holla at the end?!
Nobody answered my questions, is it possible that this is legit and I'll be getting a new replacement tomorrow? Why wouldn't get give me some crap someone returned recently?
akarol said:
The numerous dawgs, yos, and the holla at the end?!
Nobody answered my questions, is it possible that this is legit and I'll be getting a new replacement tomorrow? Why wouldn't get give me some crap someone returned recently?
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Lol.
He must have been from the dirty south. I've called a lot of times and have gotten funny characters.
What he told you is BS. Why would a. authorized retailer such as Best Buy take a new phone out of their inventory and give it to you?
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I see... you must not be from an urban area or around a young people much. Thug implies criminal. Speaking ebonics does not. Some people might take offense to that characterization fyi.
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I see... you must not be from an urban area or around a young people much. Thug implies criminal. Speaking ebonics does not. Some people might take offense to that characterization fyi.
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OP. Just edit your post to ''ghetto''.
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I see... you must not be from an urban area or around a young people much. Thug implies criminal. Speaking ebonics does not. Some people might take offense to that characterization fyi.
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Well, apparently he might just be a criminal according to the sketchiness of this situation and his alleged connections with stores. I guess the term would apply then.
I don't see thug as being derogative anyways. Have you not watched TV much? It's everywhere.
Anyways, if I give someone that works for Sprint and has access to their system my eTicket number, do you think they might be able to explain what it means and how it would be handled at their store?!
OP: I understood, and I LOL'd
Taking offense at ignorance just confirms it....
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Welcome to the world of refurbs.
Call customer service, ask to talk to Account Services. Tell them you will cancel your account if you dont get a brand new replacement. Tell them you are tired ot dealing with crappy refurbs, and dont have the time to keep going back to the store.
Go to a sprint store, tell them there's a ticket in the system. Before you do call sprint back an have them code the ticket correctly. When you go to the store don't tell them what the issue is, just say there's a ticket and have them pull it up. Once they do that the store is subject to a survey, they won't want you to give them a bad survey so they will fully fix or give you a fully functioning device.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Go to a sprint store, tell them there's a ticket in the system. Before you do call sprint back an have them code the ticket correctly. When you go to the store don't tell them what the issue is, just say there's a ticket and have them pull it up. Once they do that the store is subject to a survey, they won't want you to give them a bad survey so they will fully fix or give you a fully functioning device.
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Or so I thought... I called a rep from the store a bit ago and explained to them the situation. Basically, they told me that I would still have to wait for them to attempt a repair and if not possible, they would send me a refurbished device.
What's the f'ing point of having this eTicket in the first place? I could go there without anything and they would proceed in the same manner. This is really getting annoying... The local store is always extremely busy and getting out of there with 3 hours is unrealistic. I'm tired of wasting time dealing with this simple fix.
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Or so I thought... I called a rep from the store a bit ago and explained to them the situation. Basically, they told me that I would still have to wait for them to attempt a repair and if not possible, they would send me a refurbished device.
What's the f'ing point of having this eTicket in the first place? I could go there without anything and they would proceed in the same manner. This is really getting annoying... The local store is always extremely busy and getting out of there with 3 hours is unrealistic. I'm tired of wasting time dealing with this simple fix.
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The eTicket tells everybody how many times the phone has been checked or submitted to be checked so when customers call and say "I've had this phone replaced 3 times!!!" Sprint can say "No you haven't". They will ALWAYS have to look at/troubleshoot the phone before any exchanges are made.
I've had mine replaced twice and was able to get a new phone. But Jesus Christ was it difficult. They will only give you a brand new phone if the store agrees to it (they have to be reimbursed by Sprint) or if Sprint themselves, agree which is usually a special case.
Here's what you do:
Call up Sprint customer service, explain to them the situation. Don't expect it to go anywhere. Just keep escalating the issue. After you get as high as you can go, call Sprint's Executive Hotline Number: 703-433-4401
Tell them the same thing. 99% chance they will tell you that they can't just give you a brand new Evo. Ask them for a case number and then write it down somewhere. Then, email [email protected] telling them what's going on, and be sure to include your number, account PIN, and the case number (if you have one). This is Dan Hesse's email addresses. He reads the emails, but they are mostly answered by his secretaries. They will call you back on a weekday probably during the same week. You'll get a call from "_________, from the Office of Dan Hesse". Explain to them the situation and be sure to detail your frustration with getting the issue solved and how this is not how a company should handle things.
Also, one of them women that called me back said that refurbished doesn't necessarily mean that the phone is opened up, gutted, and the parts are replaced with working ones. She said that some of the phones are just those that are returned because of the 30 day guarantee and then just put back on shelves. She also said that the only things that are fixed are the things that are written down by the repair specialist in the store, which is stupid because they only write down 1 problem even if there are multiple issues with the phone. Obviously, there is an issue with quality control.
It will take a while, but this is what I went through, and they were able to work with the store near my house to give me a brand new Evo, in exchange for the store getting 2 refurbished phones from Sprint. It's a white 0004 with no issues at all. They will probably tell you that you need to take the phone to a repair center again to have it looked at (the one you have on you), but tell them you've spent way too much time on this issue and you just want it fixed ASAP. If you have a preferred store, let them know which one it is.
PS: Ask for a new white one. Because the white ones were initially only offered at Best Buy, so the ones that are in the Sprint stores now are mostly 0004s, and they have no issues.
Hope this helps,
Frederick

We all say the DARNEDEST things...

After some of the posts in this thread I thought I would add some rules:
1) No name calling
2) No racial slur's (the society we live in places heavy weight on these)
3) Keep it clean and have fun
I am actively watching this thread. I will update rules as needed for this thread.
I did change the title so that way everyone feels they can post here. So please sprint reps and customers feel free to post your funny stories.
I thought it would be kinda fun and funny at the same time to start a thread about some the funny stuff sprint reps tell us. Feel free to post any funny story you have about you experience with sprint. I am not doing this to be mean just had the idea after my experience with a sprint rep today. Think of it as the TV show "KIDS SAY THE DARNEDEST THINGS"
So here is mine:
Today I had to go to the sprint story to exchange mine and my wife's epic and while there the sprint rep said, "I think its stupid to update your phone. I think whatever OS was on the phone when you bought it is what you should run on it." I replied "well that would be like running windows 98 on a computer that can run windows 7." He replied "Well you have to pay for that update. If someone is going to update their phone then they should have to pay for it." So I replied "fine then running 2.1 would be like running windows 7 without any service packs or updates to it to fix known bugs and problems. It all comes down to customer service and providing the best software and product you can." After that he just started stammering and walked away. He didn't come over to me the rest of the hour I was in the store. He just occasionally glared at me. It was hilarious.
Please have fun it would be fun I think to compile our stories in one place instead of spread all over the place.
I think the oil that came in your car when you bought it is the same oil you should use for the life of your car.
mykie242 said:
I think the oil that came in your car when you bought it is the same oil you should use for the life of your car.
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hilarious....
My experience was when i first got my epic it came with dg27 on it and di18 was the newest software. I went back in the next day and he was there and I asked him why my phone wont update itself from dg27 to di18. He said that I was on the newest software release and I told him to get his phone out and check. he did and he was on di18. So then he grabbed my phone and said this is how you do it. He went into updates and.clicked on update prl and handed the phone back to.me and said, "here you go sir all done". I said you have to be joking right? He honestly had no clue what he was doing. He has no business working there.
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MedicStuder and Musclehead- both hilarious stories. I had a similar experience while speaking with a Sprint customer service rep on the phone. These people really have no idea what they are talking about or what they are doing. I would be supremely frustrated with my phone if it weren't for XDA
I had an occasion where I was trying to get a replacement for my touch pro 1. I called up sprint proclaiming that it was getting hotter than a skillet on the side of my face and that the battery felt smoldering. Well the lady said there wasn't a whole lot she could do but they were required to have me visit a repair store.
So I go to a store that does repairs to be greeted by a technician and told him my story. He says "it doesn't feel hot to me" as soon as I hand him my phone. He turned to walk to the back and dropped my phone cracking the screen lol. So the manager comes over saying we can fix that don't worry. I said that wasnt what I was there for and explained. He ends up giving me a brand new touch pro 2 in the box.
Well when I get home there's a package on my doorstep so I'm like wtf is this. I open it up to see another touch pro 2. The rep on the phone sent one even though she told me to go to the repair store lol
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Well when I get home there's a package on my doorstep so I'm like wtf is this. I open it up to see another touch pro 2. The rep on the phone sent one even though she told me to go to the repair store lol
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Bahahaa ebayyy
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nadcicle said:
I had an occasion where I was trying to get a replacement for my touch pro 1. I called up sprint proclaiming that it was getting hotter than a skillet on the side of my face and that the battery felt smoldering. Well the lady said there wasn't a whole lot she could do but they were required to have me visit a repair store.
So I go to a store that does repairs to be greeted by a technician and told him my story. He says "it doesn't feel hot to me" as soon as I hand him my phone. He turned to walk to the back and dropped my phone cracking the screen lol. So the manager comes over saying we can fix that don't worry. I said that wasnt what I was there for and explained. He ends up giving me a brand new touch pro 2 in the box.
Well when I get home there's a package on my doorstep so I'm like wtf is this. I open it up to see another touch pro 2. The rep on the phone sent one even though she told me to go to the repair store lol
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This isn't the first time I've heard of something similar to this. I had a friend that was in the process of moving when they ordered a new phone. They had given them the new address and they double checked everything and the phone was shipped. Well when it didn't show up when it was supposed to they ended up sending a second phone. That one showed up and then when she got back into town the next day there was also a phone waiting for her there. She tried to get info so she could ship the second phone back but it seemed like a hassle for Sprint so she ended up keeping both of them.
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My experience was when i first got my epic it came with dg27 on it and di18 was the newest software. I went back in the next day and he was there and I asked him why my phone wont update itself from dg27 to di18. He said that I was on the newest software release and I told him to get his phone out and check. he did and he was on di18. So then he grabbed my phone and said this is how you do it. He went into updates and.clicked on update prl and handed the phone back to.me and said, "here you go sir all done". I said you have to be joking right? He honestly had no clue what he was doing. He has no business working there.
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I'm not gonna lie, I normally do this when people come into the store raising their voice demanding the world trying to make the rest of my reps feel inferior. Sadly, this actually works with 90% of the customers I deal with. Just proving that having a smart phone does not make for a smart person.
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I'm not gonna lie, I normally do this when people come into the store raising their voice demanding the world trying to make the rest of my reps feel inferior. Sadly, this actually works with 90% of the customers I deal with. Just proving that having a smart phone does not make for a smart person.
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True true. Just fyi I was calm and cooperative during my experience. I find its not worth raising my blood pressure over a phone.
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Went to a retail store yesterday. I got asked if o need help. I said no but my gf epic got the ota 2.2 update and now her camera is broken. He said that im the 6th person that mentioned this. I asked when its going to get patched up. He said, I dont think they will but just do a hard reset to fix it. I just smiled and left.
Yeah I was calm to till he updated my prl. Lol
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I went into a sprint corp. store and asked a rep. "can I haz my gingerburgrz for me epic?", he replied "I just do sales and returns now".
/end story
Just before coming to android I had a blackberry tour and was having terrible reception issues with it, after talking to several reps I got transfered to another and the first thing out of her mouth was "cell phones are not intended for use in houses and cars and if I wanted perfect reception just step outside and use my phone!" Lol, in the end it ended up being issues with the towers in our area.
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When I noticed my htc hero was getting dust under the screen and it got unbearable enough to take it back, one sprint rep looked at it and agreed to give me a new one, then showed his coworker who then examined it and told me that those were dead pixels, not dust, and that all phones get them and to avoid getting them I should charge my phone with it powered down... needless to say I was speechless. He was extremely rude as well as dumb.
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When I noticed my htc hero was getting dust under the screen and it got unbearable enough to take it back, one sprint rep looked at it and agreed to give me a new one, then showed his coworker who then examined it and told me that those were dead pixels, not dust, and that all phones get them and to avoid getting them I should charge my phone with it powered down... needless to say I was speechless. He was extremely rude as well as dumb.
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omg! thats too much! guess we need to check the dunce hats at the door when we get there.
my wife's intercept received the OTA (froyo) and it broke her data.. causing lockups similar to the moment's plague..
(we did NOT have TEP.. still don't).. i called CS told them that i went into stock recovery and did a factory restore and it still isn't working properly, he handed me off to level 2 tech support. THAT guy proceeded to argue with me that my problem was with Samsung and not with Sprint. "After all, your warranty is from Samsung so you need to take it up with them".. i tell him that it was Sprint's update that broke the damn phone and that Sprint needs to fix it. He still stands by his "take it up with Samsung" spiel so i ask him "If I go purchase a brand new Ford at a Ford dealership and need an engine replaced under warranty, do you suggest that I drive my car to the factory in Detroit or take it back to the dealership ?" after some stammering he told me to take it to the local repair center but they would charge me $35 for the repair. I tell him that's unacceptable and he agrees to credit my account for the $35. I STILL tell him that it's not right and that i shouldn't have to pay anything to fix something that their software update broke and by this time, i'm fuming pissed and request to speak with HIS supervisor.. This guy asks what's going on (after almost 2 hrs on the phone so far) I tell him the whole story and he agrees to put the equipment protection on our account for 30 days, credit our account the cost of the equipment protection (so it's free) and tells me this way, I won't have to pay at the repair center. Then he says "You know that you'll have to go through 3 defective phones to get a different phone right ?" (I already knew this but played dumb)..
Then after a week and a half of playing 'return the bad phone' we finally got my wife the transform LMFAO
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omg! thats too much! guess we need to check the dunce hats at the door when we get there.
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Omg! is right. How come we can all understand how things work and or should work but the people selling the items don't? (Scratches head). I knew this thread would be a fun one but wow just wow...lol
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lol
Hell, Samsung is just as bad. I called them last night about adding memory to my laptop and he told me sir the laptop you have is at its max with 4gb of ram and i knew that my laptop could be upgraded to 8gb. Where do SPRINT and SAMSUNG find these people? My 6 year old son know more about the stuff they sell than these jerk off CS rep's...
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Omg! is right. How come we can all understand how things work and or should work but the people selling the items don't? (Scratches head). I knew this thread would be a fun one but wow just wow...lol
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Not every Sprint Rep is dumb.
I work at Sprint >_>

Sprint Repair store (Very Troubling)

I just want to get a bead on what is going on here.
I was window Shopping in the Sprint store this morning & a guy had an OG EVO with a faulty charge port.
Before I go on, note the following:
1.I'm not sure of what insurance plan he had (it could be either TEP+Asu, or just Asurion) so this is where I need your help in clarification. But he definitely has insurance.
2. This particular Sprint Store has the Repair Center.
3. I didn't see a repair tech chime in on the conversation. (Odd as usually the repair techs themselves tell you what can or can't be done. Duties & Policies change so you never know here.)
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He explained this issue to the floor reps & the floor rep told him that they would have to refer him to Asurion ($100+) & get the phone repaired or possibly replaced that way as he claimed it was physical damage.
This customer was no newb (assuming, sounded like he had a clue & a goal anyway) to how this works & explained that he knew this was a common issue as at least two people he knew of, had that same issue with the charge port failing. He did not mention their experience on getting this issue resolved. He called it a defect & it wasn't from him abusing or dropping the phone, which he happily showed in great condition. (I agreed, silently).
They talked back & forth- in small circles getting to this:
The Floor Rep (who sounded very sure of this) said there was nothing this Sprint store could do, they couldn't fix or get him a new/refurb phone because it was technically still considered physical damage.
This went back & forth for about 10 more minutes & the customer was pissed. (Didn't curse or get childish) but he was disgusted that we would have to pay $100 for a manufacturer defect & that the Sprint "repair" center couldn't help him.
He rode on this wave of anger & promptly asked to cancel his service with Sprint. The floor rep easily complied to start the process. (Me thinking: WTF Idiot rep, get the manager!) I face-palmed after that & I left while they were going over the termination.
Now my question/s:
Was the rep right about what they couldn't do for that time of damage/defect? Was this the result because the customer lacking the TEP portion of his insurance?
Are some repair centers more capable than others for this type of damage?
Has some portions of coverage been removed recently aside from the "rarely charged for" $35 screen repairs?
Question for Sprint employees/ former employees: What options can you use to deter a customer from leaving in a situation like that? I feel the rep could've at least put up an inch of a fight to assist in a situation like that or request aid from a manager.
Excuse any spelling or editing errors.
I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that the sprint rep just wanted to show him who the boss was. I've never had any problems with the tech stores here repairing anything from broken screens to broken power buttons. Unless you bring your phone in two pieces or has been physically damaged they should warranty it out.
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The rep, IMHO, was incorrect for arguing with the customer over what was physical or man. defect. Being a Sprint TC, we are usually asked to go out and inspect the device, open it up and see whether the soldering points are intact or not. you can spot the difference rather quickly when it comes to defect or physical. The rep should have either gotten a TC involved or better yet a manager involved immediately. Most customers, and i mean that with all due respect to both parties, would much rather hear the reasoning from someone who is supposed to know what they are talking about. for some reason customers that i talk to seem to leave in a happier mood after speaking with me over the issue. I have had to step in during a heated discussion between a rep and a customer over issues like this, and I'm not even a lead, just a simple TC. Personally, I think it tends to sound a little more official from the person hired to actually WORK on the devices rather than hear from someone who simply sells it. We spend more time on our job opening them open and inspecting them, just like the reps spend their time selling customers on the device. just my opinion, I'm not looking to start a feud by any means
your response sounds more like a regular store experience for me..
Hypeo said:
I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that the sprint rep just wanted to show him who the boss was. I've never had any problems with the tech stores here repairing anything from broken screens to broken power buttons. Unless you bring your phone in two pieces or has been physically damaged they should warranty it out.
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Yeah same here, I never had an experience like that. But it's been since the HTC Hero (2 years ago) that I've flexed my TEP. At this very store.
And then the sight of this floor rep allowing a current subscriber to leave without any counter-action. (IMHO: is worse than some random would be customer leaving). You don't have to be in retentions to save a subscriber.
I always have the golden rule of try trice (with different reps/stores) before deeming a crap policy as fact. But this guy was understandably baffled at how useless his experience was that led up to him cancelling.
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The rep should have either gotten a TC involved or better yet a manager involved immediately. Most customers, and i mean that with all due respect to both parties, would much rather hear the reasoning from someone who is supposed to know what they are talking about.
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Exactly. When he 1st came in explaining his visit, I thought he would log & direct him a TC.
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The rep, IMHO, was incorrect for arguing with the customer over what was physical or man. defect. Being a Sprint TC, we are usually asked to go out and inspect the device, open it up and see whether the soldering points are intact or not. you can spot the difference rather quickly when it comes to defect or physical. The rep should have either gotten a TC involved or better yet a manager involved immediately. Most customers, and i mean that with all due respect to both parties, would much rather hear the reasoning from someone who is supposed to know what they are talking about. for some reason customers that i talk to seem to leave in a happier mood after speaking with me over the issue. I have had to step in during a heated discussion between a rep and a customer over issues like this, and I'm not even a lead, just a simple TC. Personally, I think it tends to sound a little more official from the person hired to actually WORK on the devices rather than hear from someone who simply sells it. We spend more time on our job opening them open and inspecting them, just like the reps spend their time selling customers on the device. just my opinion, I'm not looking to start a feud by any means
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I agree with you, as a customer it does sound more official to hear the response from the person who is paid to actually work on the devices. A lot of people view salespeople as just that, salespeople. Someone to sell you something that you probably don't want or need, not someone to fix something that you have already bought and need repaired.
However, from a customer's point of view, he also may be arguing over the fact that it is for things like this in which he bought the insurance to begin with. If I'm spending $8 per month for God knows how long, the last thing I want to hear is "No, we won't repair your phone." In that case, Sprint could really do a better job of educating its customers as to what the insurance really covers. Most people view it as the equivalent of the add-on service plan that you can get at Best Buy or everywhere else, which basically will get your device fixed or replaced (or some money back) if your device fails after the manufacturer's warranty runs out. Apparently that isn't the case with TEP, however that's not how the salespeople sell it. I was in a Sprint store last month with my Dad upgrading his phone, and the sales rep offered it to us by saying "If anything goes wrong with your phone, bring it in and we'll repair it."
He had to backpedal when I started asking him questions about fixing water damage and extreme gross physical neglect...
BigJohn
Same exact thing happened to me. I called Sprint and still no luck. I eventually had a screen problem and the store replaced the phone for me.
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I think that is a prime example of ignorance and lack of care for customers. I have been to many crappy sprint stores who have done similar things. Fortunately I have found a sprint store in my neighborhood who treats their customers with respect and are mostly knowledgeable. Tbh that customer should have escalated it to talk to the manager or just go to another sprint store.
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The repair stores are filled with 1 good person to fix phones and 5 idiots. They all depend on 1 tech to actually fix things, and when they can't, the only solution to their problem is.. uh.. Ill have to have u call Asurion. Idiotttts.
This is exactly why the reps in my store immediately hand off any problem phones to a tech. They ask qualifying questions but never argue with the customer. It's up to the tech to determine what's wrong with the phone, and if necessary, "argue" with the customer.
I always explain TEP with a car analogy. You pay an insurance premium on your car in order to carry coverage. If you wreck your car, you pay a deductible and have it fixed.
Evo charging port is a very sensitive issue. I've had some that are obvious physical damage yet the customer still argues and calls me a liar.
So what does TEP actually cover?
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So what does TEP actually cover?
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Ability to get upgrades every 1 year instead of every 2 years. That's about it.
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I find that going to an authorized retailer with a repair center works better, I went to a sprint store and they wanted me too buy this or that, battery, etc... Went to a reseller and they replaced my uninsured phone for $35, under faulty USB charger. Also try to go on days they aren't slammed with customers so they can give you the proper attention..
mbaseball3 said:
Ability to get upgrades every 1 year instead of every 2 years. That's about it.
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Seriously?
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Seriously?
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Lol, yeah! I envy everyone else here with their success stories. Sprint stores do chit here for their customers! I'm on a 6 line business plan and they say sorry can't help you any time I walk in to a repair center. We been with sprint since a little before Nextel merger; how ever many years ago that was. I have yet to get a phone properly taken care of even with our insurance. I feel that when they see that there is an issue in device and that they should fix, they just point me to asurion. They never help. Feed us excuse after excuse. Anyone in the orange county area of California have good repair center experiences? Won't be surprised if all responses are No!
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mbaseball3 said:
Ability to get upgrades every 1 year instead of every 2 years. That's about it.
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Umm, absolutely not.
Hmmm
I've had my share of issues with the Sprint store where I live. Almost from the time I got the phone I was having issues with it and all they were willing to was a factory reset. They actually let me sit in the store for over an hour (with my two year old son) the last time I went. After we were both tired of sitting I got up and asked the tech about it. He told me "Oh yeah, well the screen is locked and I couldn't get into it" I was floored and pissed off. Someone could have asked me considering I told them I would wait. After that I decided it was time for me to figure it all out on my own.
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I've had my share of issues with the Sprint store where I live. Almost from the time I got the phone I was having issues with it and all they were willing to was a factory reset. They actually let me sit in the store for over an hour (with my two year old son) the last time I went. After we were both tired of sitting I got up and asked the tech about it. He told me "Oh yeah, well the screen is locked and I couldn't get into it" I was floored and pissed off. Someone could have asked me considering I told them I would wait. After that I decided it was time for me to figure it all out on my own.
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Wow
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mskeys2xx3 said:
I've had my share of issues with the Sprint store where I live. Almost from the time I got the phone I was having issues with it and all they were willing to was a factory reset. They actually let me sit in the store for over an hour (with my two year old son) the last time I went. After we were both tired of sitting I got up and asked the tech about it. He told me "Oh yeah, well the screen is locked and I couldn't get into it" I was floored and pissed off. Someone could have asked me considering I told them I would wait. After that I decided it was time for me to figure it all out on my own.
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We have data preservation sheets for that, which all customers are required to sign. It includes a place to draw your pattern lock or write down any other codes.
Well it would have been nice if someone had asked/told me that when they took my phone. I like just stop talking and give me my phone back before I am unable to control this urge to punch you in the face.

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