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Hi All.
Just to keep things in perspective, can we use this thread from here on out to report successes and failures of all development or progress with regards to:
CID Unlocking
Free Sim Unlocking
ROMs cooked or official
...and any other developments relating to the project.
Once enough positive results have been posted, we can ask Midget_1990 or another moderator to move this thread to 'Upgrades', but for now, I think more people visit this forum, which will give our project some more exposure for ideas and most importantly....Donations!
To donate to the development of the Athena Project and know what where your money is going please read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311651
Please post ideas for the project here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311433
Let's keep this thread for technical matters. Thanks for your support and help.
Copied post to here...hope you don't mind hdubli.
hdubli said:
What is reqd is someone..or our Dear POF, make a or modify the bootloader which will make our devices Super CID and and will allow the unsigned Rom code to flash.Since the Chipsets of Hermes and Athena are same, so I hv tried lots of tools, was also on the verge of bricking my SPL, but could not make it Super CID yet.
I thought I shd share this, since topic is started.
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Please share any comments with regards to technical matters here. Cheers peeps.
cooked roms are going well
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cooked roms are going well
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nice cant wait my device has started acting up crashing so will wait till a cooked rom or too to play around
Boinger_66, Midget_1990, Antivirus - can you PM email addresses to add to the Athena Project mailing list please?
Midget_1990 is our first of 2 developers.
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Friends of Athena.....how corny! ROFL.
All, we're glad to announce that Midget_1990 has accepted our offer and will be the first of 2 developers who will be working on the Athena for the solutions outlined in previous posts/threads etc.
Please don't bombard with pressurized questions like 'when will it be ready' and so forth. He and another developer (not yet chosen one yet - what say you all?) will keep us updated directly, which means all contributors on the mailing list will know as soon as we do, but the rest of the forum will be informed ONLY when we have something concrete to share.
No one is going to be holding out on you because you didn't or couldn't contribute financially or otherwise, we just have an obligation to those of you who have done so. We're talking probably same or next day notification to the forum if/when we have any solution that can be applied by all owners of the Athena, regardless of which variant it is, but ultimately that is not up to me, but the developers as they may breakthrough's for one device before being able to test it on another.
Also, closer to the time of a finished ROM, we could do with some brave souls who will do some testing for the rest of us. I'll be doing it too, so you won't be alone.
If you're interested PM me, apphoen or amongst yourselves and decide who will do it and post the finished list back in this thread please, so we know in advance who is on-board.
Thanks for all your support guys and gals. We all appreciate this community spirit and effort.
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cooked roms are going well
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Midget_1990 can you please PM apphoen to include you in the mailing list. Thanks.
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Midget_1990 can you please PM apphoen to include you in the mailing list. Thanks.
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already have
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already have
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@All other contributors, please be patient apphoen is snoed under right now with his regular job, but will be sweeping this thread when he gets the time and will update the mailing list as soon as he can.
Don't fret if you have not heard anything yet via e-mail. That's why I'm keeping everyone informed until all is up and running.
Meanwhile the collection is going well and I am liaising with our mystery member to secure the devices. Just waiting on exact purchase prices and shipping costs etc.
Contributors Check your e-mails in about 5
So sorry about the long delay friends. Been inundated with PM's and the like.
Check your e-mails for a detailed update. Hope it got to?!?!
If you receive nothing within 15 minutes, I'll contact apphoen to see what I did wrong.
Don't worry I have a copy of it, so you'll definately get it today.
mackaby007
Developer Team complete...Welcome Jasjamming.
Friends...we're pleased to announce that we now have Mr BlackShadow Jasjamming on board.
We all know how beautiful his black ROMs are, don't we? So I won't spend any more time justifying this decision. I think I speak for everyone when I say 'Welcome aboard JJ we're glad to have ya.'
Now we have 2 excellent developers on our project, all we need now is more money to get the devices, so the party can begin.
I must stress that neither developer is doing this for monetary or device gain, but for the love it.
Midget_1990 was the only developer to actively take part in our forums and Jasjamming offered his help too as soon as he heard of our plight and offered his help FOC.
Having said that neither one of our developers would get very far without an Athena, so thanks to all the members that have contributed verbally/writing and of course our donators as this is what we are gunning for, 2 Athena's for our developers and some time for them to get acquainted with these devices, so I'll only say this one last time and won't mention it again.
Please don't pressure them, they will do what they can for us, but they need to work for a living too.
If we can gently remind any newcomers who may have missed these last few posts, then the community will be helping itself.
I has sent the e-mail to all the contributors via the mailing list, but obviously got something muddled up. It has more info on how things are developing.
Look out for an announcement from our webmaster boinger66 who has hosted and designed a beautiful website for further resources, info/downloads and hacks in the future, just for all variants of the Athena.
Nothing will be taken away from xda devs, only to complement it from the Athena development point of view, by having easily accessible info and software.
If anyone is not happy with where this is going, please say so. Don't forget it's non-profit and for the good of the Athena community.
Wow! Well done, looks like we've got some great people on our side now! I've been a member of this forum for some time now and every now and again people get together and someone organises something cool and community based like this. Jasjamming is the ultimate master chef- I used his Black ROMs on my Hermes and they were superb! Hopefully we can get somewhere with the CID unlock or Hard-SPL so that we can use customised ROMS!
Brilliant work so far guys!
Fin
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Wow! Well done, looks like we've got some great people on our side now! I've been a member of this forum for some time now and every now and again people get together and someone organises something cool and community based like this. Jasjamming is the ultimate master chef- I used his Black ROMs on my Hermes and they were superb! Hopefully we can get somewhere with the CID unlock or Hard-SPL so that we can use customised ROMS!
Brilliant work so far guys!
Fin
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I agree.
jasjammings black3 and 4 are ****ing fast, way faster than the other wm6 hermes Roms. i don't know how he did it and what his secret is but i can't wait for midget_1990 and jasjamming working on the athena.
thx for this project.
You're gonna hate me now...
After such a lovely announcement earlier, I have to sadly be the bearer of bad news....we've got to let Jasjamming go. I've PM'd and e-mailed him about this. Maybe he can cook up some seewt ROMs for us in the future. But right now after careful consideration I think it in the best interest of the development to prioritize our immediate needs rather than wants.
We have Midget_1990 as our chief ROM cooker and his experience/expertise in VGA ROM cooking cannot be ignored...our devices are also VGA ROM based, so having him on board is a necessary forgone conclusion.
I first approached Olipro last night, because he's **** hot on bootloader/low level stuff, just what we need to get our devices CID/SuperCID and Sim unlocked! I was impatient for his reply, and when I saw Jasjamming offering his help, I jumped at the chance fearing we wouldn't get another developer soon, but knowing that his specialty is also ROM cooking, but not VGA.
So...when Olipro got back to me with a positive 'I'm up for it', I couldn't say 'no' as he is exactly what this projects needs too. So he's now officially on-board. Welcome Olipro and sorry to announce your joining us under these circumstances.
I take full responsibility for the hasty decision, but I was just on a mission for the community and wanted any top developer out there without remembering what this project really needs.
We need the team we have now. Hope you're all still with me on this. Let me know if you disagree, but please remember...without CID unlock were screwed anyway as Jasjamming honestly admitted to me was not his forte.
So unless there are serious objections from the contributors, it's full steam ahead with our chief VGA ROM cooker and chief low level coder.
Sorry about the tacky titles.lol but you all know what I mean.
* Some nice member has donated 300 euros to the project. Many thanks to you from all of us.
Apphoen will e-mail us with a =n updated figure by tomorrow morning. There are a few niggling problems with the server, but rest assured we got some professionals on board that really makes our donations worthwhile.
Bad news. Our mystery member has not yet come through with the info we need to purchase an Athena. So as a contingency plan we have to donate more, but I think we almost have enough for the first device even at the dear prices they currently are.
I'll talk to Inkino tomorrow in Tottenham court Road and see if they can do anything for us as we want 2, but don't hold your breath...business is business.
Last but not least for tonight (I'm ending my 11 hour shift now)...I'll recap on who one might need to talk to, even as non benefactors as you're still beneficiaries.
Questions or help offered about:
Website development - PM boinger66 [Webmaster]
Coordination - PM Itxda or myself
Accounts - PM apphoen
Development on Athena - Midget_1990 & Olipro
or PM amongst yourselves and tell us what you want. We're not separate from you, just members like you gunning for the common goal of fully unlocking our devices so we can flash the WM6 ROMs of our choice.
That was yet another long post. Sorry peeps, but the contributors deserve the right to know where their money is going and the rest of you is us anyway, so you will be kept in the loop...just not as soon.
mackaby007 said:
* Some nice member has donated 300 euros to the project. Many thanks to you from all of us.
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holy sh*t! who?!?
good call btw, a hard one, but you made the right decision.
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If anyone is not happy with where this is going, please say so. Don't forget it's non-profit and for the good of the Athena community.
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Hopefully we're also free to say that we are VERY HAPPY with where this is going! Thanks to everyone who has the time, passion, and/or expertise to make this happen.
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Bad news. Our mystery member has not yet come through with the info we need to purchase an Athena. So as a contingency plan we have to donate more, but I think we almost have enough for the first device even at the dear prices they currently are.
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would it be cheaper if brought on a contract?
£119 on FlexT Web 'n' Walk 35 in store. If someone needed a contract coincidentally. But then if they nuke the phone, they have to go through T-Mobile to get another one...
They may be cheaper now as the web prices are reducing.
Yup - I also think it was a good call on the dev front - ROMs won't be any good if we can't get them onto the device in the first place... and while I like IMEI-Check, I can't see the point of organizing a mass-shipment of devices their way.
Having said that, I for one am willing to do another round of funding once we get started to get another dev on board... but we might even have to do that anyway to get another machine if we don't get a break on the price...
Al is not lost....
All is not lost yet my friends. Our mystery member and some of us have been in discussion and it looks like we might be getting the first device some time next week, but we'll keep you informed when it's concrete.
OK friends, before you start asking about exact times, I don't know and neither does Midget.
ltxda and myself have been in touch with the rest of the team and our ROM developer Midget.
We could have had a 90% complete ROM uploaded sometime tonight, just to see the extent of the ROM under development, but we advised against this as after all the wait we believe our donators in particular and the rest of the Athena community would rather have a 100% complete ROM worth flashing over our existing ones.
So there it is people. Saturday some time unspecified, we get our first completed cooked ROM form Midget. Don't expect it to be the final ROM though, as some will undoubtedly find something that needs tweaking or added to the base ROM, but given the time Midget has spent on it thus far, we can hope for a pretty stable and fast ROM as I know he spent a lot of time twaeking it.
Happy flashing this weekend.
Any chance of a manifest?
copperwave said:
Any chance of a manifest?
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Probably not, as it's so close to release, but no doubt one will be put together after the initial ROM reaches Final ROM status.
anxiously waiting
I cant wait anxiously waiting
Call it the "Disadvantaged" Rom !!!!!!!
Then we know it is for us peeps who didnt get the official update
Irrespective of the name I cant wait though, better start charging the batteries and take out the memory card so long ....
This actually give us enough time to do backups as well !
Thanks Cant wait
what about the ext-rom? is the problem fixed? is it unhide & unlock? is ther a way to be?
Special tnx Midget! Can't w8 longer.
Cheers, Hirad
today is saturday and still no rom!
yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!
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yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!
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C'mon, tiger! Get your claws back in!
My Bad...Sorry next Saturday 1st September.
Sorry friends I made a mistake. I got in touch with Midget today to check on the progress, to find he's still away from a PC until early next week when he could upload the 90% ROM we told him to hold off from as Saturday would be the day for the Complete 100% ROM.
Stupid me assumed it was this Saturday. I re-checked my txt messages from Midget and indeed he did say 'back early next week and can upload 90% ROM then and complete ROM by Saturday'.
Sorry all, my excitement must have got the better of me.
cool man it's ok we can wait!
Anyway currently for the cooked ROM what's the advantages/disavantages or any items included/excluded? New to this kinda stuff just hope my questions do not seem dumb.
hey guys! cool down! i'm really sorry for that kinda posting! 2 proud of myself... u know? sorry now i really apreciate this situation and this hard working from both of our heroes(Oli & Midget)! and mackaby007 it's not your fault we are all excited to see the first cooked rom for our devices! have nothing to add on this! 2 sorry man.
Cheers, Hirad
what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?
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what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?
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More like bricks & toast, if you don't know what you're doing!
I think we all just need to calm down and wait patiently for the ROM. Midget did wonders on the Universal, and now we will get the same great ROM style on the Athena - so we wait....
It's not as if we dont have an interim WM6 we cant use? If you're really desperate then bung on the one that's been available for a few months and then do it again when Midget's is ready - otherwise just stop bugging the poor guy!!
Let's prepare for the forthcoming ROMs.
Hi all. I don't know all the details, but I know this much;
Midget has been working on the Dopod u1000 version ROM, but has changed to be a default European ROM (last I spoke to him) and has made optimized it for speed and reliability, getting rid of unnecessary ****e etc.
He was already very close to completion a few weeks back before his PC died on him. So he had to put most of the ROM back together from memory alone, plus the usual setbacks of life.
Expect a new thread for the new 'Cooked ROM' when it arrives. It will be tweaked with some apps included that should be standard in all ROMs.
For those who are new to ROMs and cooked ROMs, look at it like a software container for the Operating system and specially chosen 3rd party apps etc. Once you flash any ROM with a different one, you completely loose all your previous data, except what you have on the MicroDrive (MD).
Now is a good time to get all your favourite .cab files and exe's (for which you need to use Active sync to install them) ready, as you can't use back-ups from apps like Spb Backup or sprite, to restore your old backups onto a new ROM. Well you can, but you'll have lots of corrupted software and may be putting back what was thoughtfully removed from the cooked ROM.
So a cooked ROM is something made up by an individual to replace the default ROM you get from the seller/manufacturer of the device (all THEIR customized crap).
A base ROM is like the absolute essential parts only, i.e. the WM6 ROM and those apps needed to retain the original functionality of the device as when you bought it....like a stripped down version. Then the developer adds what he thinks will make a fast and stable ROM. In this instance the developer Midget_1990 is doing this for the Athena Project, which was formed and funded by many members of Xda developers and some others from other forums and parts of the world, as this is not the common device for most PPC owners to have and we needed help in getting it unlocked (SIM free and capable of having any HTC Athena ROM being flashed to it, without bricking it).
Olipro (Developer 1 and top notch low-level programmer) has already fulfilled his obligation to the project, by developing and releasing the unlocking tools for the Athena and also made our devices virtually unbrickable due to his clever method of Hard SPL patching the Athena. Thanks Olipro.
Midget_1990 (Dev 2, VGA ROM Cooker) is to use his specialist knowledge of the VGA Universal (he's made some great ROMs!) to make an VGA WM6 based cooked ROM which will enhance and improve the basic functionality of the box-standard WM5 Athenas we originally bought. This is somewhat more time consuming, especially as 'WE' the project contributors and community here, have rather varied requests in what we would like to have in this first ROM. So finding the balance of what works best and doing the actual work and in some cases conversions (i.e. TrueVGA compatibility) is what Midget is up against.
As an incentive both developers were given an Athena each for themselves with an understanding between them and the contributors, that this 2 fold objective could be realized.
We're more than half way there with Olipro's Athena Unlocker and we'll soon have completed our objectives once Midget has released the first Cooked ROM...soon amigos.
So....let's be patient just a little longer and continue to play nice, after all, we will still need Midget to support this or future ROMs for the Athena if it still needs tweaking or amending e.g. Athena Project ROM v0.1 or 1.0, if you follow my drift.
Also it was clearly stated that the devs not be hassled or pressured by anyone, but that has already happened...let's hope no more.
Don't get me wrong friends, if any one is unduly rude or derogative towards you, you have every right to retaliate...only it's not in any ones best interest to argue on these types of forums.
Word to the wise; when this or any other developer releases a ROM in the future, we'd do well to read up well, before asking questions that may have been asked dozens of times before and try to point out what does not work with the ROM and why, if you know, or positive suggestions and feedback.
This is my last long post regarding this project. LoL yeah, thank God!! everyone cheers. ROFL. Seriously though, it's been a bit of a struggle but mostly rewarding and made some really cool new buddies on this forum.
Thanks to all of you in the Athena community and beyond, but most of all a big thanks should go to the financial contributors, without whom this project may never have taken off as soon as it did or even at all.
No more to say.
See you around in the forums.
P.S. If you have something negative to say, please PM who you are not happy with and let's keep this forum as a civilized developers forum for all interested parties.
And one more thing, if I may humbly ask all non-new members or visitors to NOT abuse newbies as they are by no means fools just because they are new to this and deserve our respect.
As others have mentioned before, if someone posts a stupid question or something that has been asked a thousand times, simply point them to the wiki or give them the right keywords to put in the search engine as the wiki is still under development.
Peace & Unity
well said. you should be a moderator mate.
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well said. you should be a moderator mate.
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agreed.
wOw mackaby007! TrueVGA compatibility??? is it possible? i can't w8 for! i really suggest high rank admins to make u and some others the admins of athena! hope to see u soon! (not u mackaby007! i'm with our little nutty,sweet, cooked ROM!!!)
Mackaby007 -> Very well said. Thank you.
Hey everyone,
I wanted to taket the time and say a quick thank you to everyone that has taken time out of thier schedules to try cook roms, tweak registries, and build cabs to share with the community. Being a college student I can tell you that there are numerous times that I wanted to throw my device out of the window due to issues that I did not understand. I have always been fairly tech savy but I am new to the PPC WM world. I have always been able to visit this site for help, and to find whatever else I needed to unlock the full potential of my device. Even though I cannot donate to everone, I just wanted to let you know that your hours of hardword and frustration are very much appreciated by myself, all of the other members, and the thousands of un-named that visit the site on a day to day visit. Just remember this when you feel that you are not getting the recognization that you deserve. There are thousands of people out there that you help on a day to day basis. Keep up the good work and always remember that you are appreciated.
P.S. I was not sure wher eto post this but feel free to move it to whatever forum you feel would best suite it's needs.
I wish to do the same, just can't find enough word to show my appreciation. That is why I'm going to say one simple and huge: THANK YOU!
I too would like to thank all of the developers here. I can tell you I was about to buy a new phone when I happened across this site and brought my Blue angel into 2008 with all the wonderful ROMs and software found here. Thank you all no matter how big or small your contribution has been it has been appreciated. As I am not a coder all I can offer is support, which I try to do as regularly as possible here. To everyone keep up the great work.
I too would have to add to this. If it wasn't for this site and its hard working developers I wouldn't realize the full potential of my cell-y.
The only way I can contribute to this site is by donating to these talented and hard working developers so that they may continue to create some of the most usable/innovative programs only to ask for donations in return.
Much Appreciated to all....
Huge THANK YOU to all the cookers and developers indeed!
Without this site and all the people here my life would be shallow and meaningless misery...Well, not exactly, but thank you anyway!
Thank you!
Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye
HELLO i agree with you..
It's a good idea, but I'm not sure you'll find a quick reply.
The main trouble with the Touch Cruise is it's limited implementation globally. With the only US supporters having to import it, and the high price pretty much everywhere, I've noticed the general Polaris "community" isn't nearly as positive or helpful as the Kaiser thread community is. That doesn't mean EVERYONE is a jerk, but it's frustrating to have come from a device and forum where there were tons of people with a positive attitude, all sharing ideas. Here, it seems like most people just ***** about the device they bought, with only a few people (most in the upgrading forum) looking to make the most of it and improve it.
I've been waiting for someone to release a Diamond rom that would work on the Touch Cruise, simply because I like the analog clock look. But I don't have any real interest to force Office 2007 on myself, as I've used the app and don't see any real improvements over Office 2003. But this post isn't about which version of MS software is best.
Anyway... here's hoping the gurus of this forum stay upbeat, keep up the good work, and someone can "port" the Diamond VGA driver to the qVGA device. On the surface, it seems like a simple idea. But you have to wonder if the video chipset in the Polaris just isn't all that without more horsepower behind it, and maybe a better screen. Maybe that's why the Diamond is the new king of the pile. I'd love to upgrade to it, but just having bought my Polaris in Feb. or so, it will be a LONG time before I can justify ANOTHER new device.
Anyway, my compliments to the masters for all they do, and best wishes to those with a pretty cool phone!
My request is only trying to make an unique post in which all the coders can list their ROMS with the list of apps inlcuded and positive and negavite facts.
So when a new owner of the device came here can choose without loosing his mind in looking for informations in thousands of post.
That's all here....
Bye
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Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye
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its a good idea. but comparing various roms is a full time job and i'm afraid not many people have that kind of time.
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373233 has been around for a while with a list of Roms, I think thats the best you are going to get, it's just updated when it can be as far as I can tell but its came in usefull for me. Not sure if you missed it but it's been on the first page for a while. Unless I've missed the point and it's something else you are after?
The polaris is a good device and I've found help and support on these forums but its still quite new. I upgraded from the XDA Orbit and thats only been out just over a year I think, a lot of people bought in to 18 month contracts and so wont be upgrading for a while. I'd just bare with it and if you are unsure of anything, just ask.
My favourite ROM at the moment is Bepe's just because it's win 6.1, fast an clean then I've modified it to the standard I want by adding apps and tweaks. I've tried other roms but they are all at such early stages of development that a lot of them aren't really practical for day to day use as they can be very flakey. This won't last forever though.
Hey everybody,
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Any feedback is much appreciated, and comments, bad or good are welcomed!
Please check it out...
I will be updating more regularly from now on (Not many updates over last few days since now a huge amount of progress has been made!!!)
I am going to bring back the 'best build' section asap (had a number of requests via email) I'm just contemplating where about to put it
Enjoy,
Rob
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lookin good , a lot easier to understand
Very nice. Easy to understand too.
This will be allot of help to allot of people
Great site, at the rate that Android porting is progressing it's a easy way to keep up
Very nice....he have future...if stay simples, intuitive and have good stuff.
Very nice, simple, intuitive layout. If the information on there stays updated the devs should have no problem addressing each and every problem!
i love the site BUT if you update it ASAP info arrives...i will be first on it
Your site looks good, if you are able to keep up with the updates I'll be all over it!
Looks good....
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Wow, great site! Really helps to find everything in one spot, and with a really nice layout, updates and info on the builds.
Thanks!
Good job ! I think your site is very simple and straight to the point. I just hope you can keep it updated with the latest news !
I am now the new owner of this website and its for sale!
I offer $10
wtf is going on here???
lmfao
umm...wth is this? cant advertise other sites from xda lol, I guess I am the only one to find this distasteful lol?
First and final warning for spamming the boards here at xda.
closed and moved to general along with the two other threads he's opened on his site.