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HTC Hero

Looking at the HTC site it looks like the Magic and Hero are nearly identical, save the camera and headphone socket
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/specification.html
now I'm just waiting to get my hands on that finalised Rosie firmware...

Lazzzara said:
Looking at the HTC site it looks like the Magic and Hero are nearly identical, save the camera and headphone socket
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/specification.html
now I'm just waiting to get my hands on that finalised Rosie firmware...
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but if u look at the vodafone-brandet htc magic
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/magic/specification.html
you will see there are 90mb of less RAM

oh good lord...
I hope this won't affect my HTC Sense experience too much

i was wondering if we get multi touch on our magic's now that hero has it? :/

It is android OS that is not allowing multi touch... AFAIK the Magic also has multi touch...

Apparently the magic and dream will get the new cool interface that hero has to offer and also flash will be available on magic in the not distant future

mac208x said:
they need t work on a better design, like seriously
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I actually think the Hero looks great! It stands a bit out, compared to others....and the vid's around looks good. Guess this will be my next HTC (a nice upgrade from my current Cruise)

The multitouch is only a software limit on the Magic. I've installed the Hero rom and the browser got the multitouch... with it's speed limit of course... flash also is there... don't know if Adobe will make this build available on its site so one can install it on other Magic roms...

mac208x said:
Just dont be surprised when u hear a question "Is that your banana sticking out of your pants?"
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/me pre-orders a hero in yellow..

Samsung i7500 / Galaxy

Anyone tempted? I'm thinking of getting one. From what I've read, better screen, better memory, better camera, standard headphone plug etc.

I am...just because of the amoled screen.

Better do some more reading on it. It comes with 128MB RAM (less than half of the Hero or Magic) and the same size screen (3.2" 320X480) as the Magic or Dream, just has AM-OLED.
Here are the specs.
Clinton

mytouch 3g has slightly more but it comes with a vanilla android os.

cfvasquez said:
mytouch 3g has slightly more but it comes with a vanilla android os.
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Rogers magic has over twice the ran and can be rooted. so sense UI no problem.
Clinton

ClintonH said:
Rogers magic has over twice the ran and can be rooted. so sense UI no problem.
Clinton
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comparing the rogers magic to the mytouch is lame.. anyone using the mytouch is gonna be on tmo & since the rogers wont get tmo's 3g its not in the same comparison..
edit: of course since the op didn't mention a mytouch it may be of comparison to them.. Also however there sig says htc magic which I believe means its the same as the rogers..

Sure tmobile could offer beefier fones, but they don't, but the fact that amoled is not being offered else where, I would get it just for that...

bastage said:
comparing the rogers magic to the mytouch is lame.. anyone using the mytouch is gonna be on tmo & since the rogers wont get tmo's 3g its not in the same comparison..
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Wasn't comparing the Magic to a MyTouch, I was comparing to the Galaxy that was asked about by the OP.
Sony's Android phone Xperia X3 will have AM-OLED, since there the guys that own it.
Clinton

ClintonH said:
Better do some more reading on it. It comes with 128MB RAM (less than half of the Hero or Magic) and the same size screen (3.2" 320X480) as the Magic or Dream, just has AM-OLED.
Here are the specs.
Clinton
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Well that's just annoying. Why would they do that. Does that imapct speed also, or just the amount of apps you can install?
Otherwise I may have to get the Hero, if I can find a black or charcoal one.

ClintonH said:
Wasn't comparing the Magic to a MyTouch, I was comparing to the Galaxy that was asked about by the OP.
Sony's Android phone Xperia X3 will have AM-OLED, since there the guys that own it.
Clinton
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you directly quoted text reguarding the mytouch not the galaxy..

kkhalil76 said:
Well that's just annoying. Why would they do that. Does that imapct speed also, or just the amount of apps you can install?
Otherwise I may have to get the Hero, if I can find a black or charcoal one.
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Nothing to do with installed/installing apps, it's the amount of memory the phone has to run apps and the OS (forget Sense or anything like it). Infact the Galaxy is supposed to have 7.5 GB of ROM according to the specs, tons of room to install. Just limited on how many you can run.
Clinton

Memory on Galaxy
Check out this video and check it at 9:00, it show memory of the device: gt-i7500

cfvasquez said:
Check out this video and check it at 9:00, it show memory of the device: gt-i7500
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That confirms it. Bugger all for system RAM.
Clinton

I'm getting one anyway, people that use it say it's fast and has no lag, plus the other benefits like the screen, earphone jack, flash, does it for me. Considered the Hero but seems to be too many complaints for my liking, gap at end of screen, bad reception etc.

ClintonH said:
Better do some more reading on it. It comes with 128MB RAM (less than half of the Hero or Magic) and the same size screen (3.2" 320X480) as the Magic or Dream, just has AM-OLED.
Here are the specs.
Clinton
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Actually Magic have 192MB RAM but when initializes radio and other ****z remains only 96MB for the system. Rogers have 192 and i7500 have 128MB

mitac112 said:
Actually Magic have 192MB RAM but when initializes radio and other ****z remains only 96MB for the system. Rogers have 192 and i7500 have 128MB
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Wrong, Rogers Magic comes with 288mb of RAM and 512 of ROM (Same specs as the Hero minus the Camera). Quite a bit of difference between it and the 32b boards your refering to, and absolutely kills the Galaxy's RAM. Here are the specs if you care to be informed.
Clinton

ClintonH said:
Wrong, Rogers Magic comes with 288mb of RAM and 512 of ROM (Same specs as the Hero minus the Camera). Quite a bit of difference between it and the 32b boards your refering to, and absolutely kills the Galaxy's RAM. Here are the specs if you care to be informed.
Clinton
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You have 288 RAM but kernel see ~192 because of the radio and other stuff memory requirements. You have no access to full 288MB.
I think I repeating myself

mitac112 said:
You have 288 RAM but kernel see ~192 because of the radio and other stuff memory requirements. You have no access to full 288MB.
I think I repeating myself
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If that is truly the case image what the Galaxy or your 32b Magic sees.
Clinton

ClintonH said:
If that is truly the case image what the Galaxy or your 32b Magic sees.
Clinton
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My Magic (32B) sees 96 and I think that Galaxy should have 128 free after initialization, because if it use ~100 for radio like HTC there will be no available RAM at all. Maybe Galaxy have separate memory for Radio I don't know

mitac112 said:
My Magic (32B) sees 96 and I think that Galaxy should have 128 free after initialization, because if it use ~100 for radio like HTC there will be no available RAM at all. Maybe Galaxy have separate memory for Radio I don't know
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Sure.
Clinton

32A or 32B - is it worth a difference of 100€/140$ ???

Hello!
A.t.m. I'm planing to replace my beloved "herald" with a "magic", as it's - in my opinion - the perfect device to suit my mobile-needs!
Unfortunately i'm living in germany and therefore the only "easy-way"-available devices are the "32b"-ones, which (with some patience) are available with an castrated 192 RAM for about 220€/315$ and an (again in my opinion) annoying vodafone-branding (anyhow i could live with that).
After hours of research in international markets, i found some 32A-offers, but as a conclusion it seems as - besides a long waiting-time because of the shipping - i have to anticipate with an amount of approximately 320€/460$.
Now i really would like to know your opinions, if the 288MB RAM is worth the 100€ ? Especially regarding comfortability, usabilty and especially future "XDA-Developers"-"Custom"-ROMs-Developement?
Thanks a lot in advance for any thought and any advice that might help me out of my misery!
Regards
Makula
P.S. The "Hero" is no option, as i hate the "bend" ;-)

I bought a brand new HTC magic 32A for 235€(960PLN) here in Poland and payed 13$ for unlocking it. So, find a way how to buy a phone in Poland and it will be much cheaper.

Nice idea! any advice where to look?
Thanks in advance!

Yes if you want to put different Hero type Roms, I am disliking that I dont have the extra 100 of ram, too many issues with trying to put Hero Roms on my phone,

It isn't needed anymore since we have compcache & swap.
Also Hero ROMs are terribly fast now on 32B too.
And 32B is so much cheaper..
I wouldn't buy 32A because there are too many bugs with screen blurring for example..
32B is perfect!

maxisma said:
It isn't needed anymore since we have compcache & swap.
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Very buggy unless setup correct with the correct card. Also trashes your sd card.
maxisma said:
I wouldn't buy 32A because there are too many bugs with screen blurring for example..
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What? I've never had a blurry screen, the 32B has that issue but I don't think the 32A has. These
are all 32B phones.
If I had the extra $$ I would buy the 32A, you simply can't add RAM. You'll hate it if your always wondering if it would have run smoother, faster and better with it though. JMO.
Clinton

ClintonH said:
Very buggy unless setup correct with the correct card. Also trashes your sd card.
What? I've never had a blurry screen, the 32B has that issue but I don't think the 32A has. These
are all 32B phones.
If I had the extra $$ I would buy the 32A, you simply can't add RAM. You'll hate it if your always wondering if it would have run smoother, faster and better with it though. JMO.
Clinton
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It isn't buggy. It also doesn't trash your sdcard. It kills some blocks after a long time, so you'll see a difference in the card size after a long time, i promise, long time.
And "these" phones are MyTouch3Gs, and they're a bit different from the other 32Bs.
And really, you don't need 288 MB RAM for a phone. 192 MB are enough, I promise that.
The dream has only 192 MB RAM too, and if the ROM wasn't made in 5 minutes, it runs really fast.
I'm building my own ROMs, so you see I have some experience.
Yes, if you really want to run Hero as everyday-system, you can buy a 32A.
But personally I find the Hero UI is unefficient, slow (even on the HTC Hero) and doesn't look nice.
I think the hype arround the Hero is what it is - Hype - not more.
All the "oh-so-nice" features of the Hero can be installed from the market.
HTC Peep (btw the slowest Twitter client I ever saw, updating tweets takes 1:30 mins) - Twidroid (very fast)
Facebook - Bloo (I think that's the name)
Flickr - Just use the browser
Additionally I don't like the Hero Browser.
Flash? This version shows you annoying ads, not more. Oh I forgot - it shows YOUTUBE, woow.
Full Screen Browsing? I want to see my status bar
Optical Bookmarks? Slow and only 2 bookmarks are fitting on the screen. I have to scroll much.

maxisma said:
It isn't buggy. It also doesn't trash your sdcard. It kills some blocks after a long time, so you'll see a difference in the card size after a long time, i promise, long time.
And "these" phones are MyTouch3Gs, and they're a bit different from the other 32Bs.
And really, you don't need 288 MB RAM for a phone. 192 MB are enough, I promise that.
The dream has only 192 MB RAM too, and if the ROM wasn't made in 5 minutes, it runs really fast.
I'm building my own ROMs, so you see I have some experience.
Yes, if you really want to run Hero as everyday-system, you can buy a 32A.
But personally I find the Hero UI is unefficient, slow (even on the HTC Hero) and doesn't look nice.
I think the hype arround the Hero is what it is - Hype - not more.
All the "oh-so-nice" features of the Hero can be installed from the market.
HTC Peep (btw the slowest Twitter client I ever saw, updating tweets takes 1:30 mins) - Twidroid (very fast)
Facebook - Bloo (I think that's the name)
Flickr - Just use the browser
Additionally I don't like the Hero Browser.
Flash? This version shows you annoying ads, not more. Oh I forgot - it shows YOUTUBE, woow.
Full Screen Browsing? I want to see my status bar
Optical Bookmarks? Slow and only 2 bookmarks are fitting on the screen. I have to scroll much.
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Because:
Flash +1
Multitouch +1
People +1
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The rest agree.. -1

maxisma said:
It isn't buggy. It also doesn't trash your sdcard. It kills some blocks after a long time, so you'll see a difference in the card size after a long time, i promise, long time.
And "these" phones are MyTouch3Gs, and they're a bit different from the other 32Bs.
And really, you don't need 288 MB RAM for a phone. 192 MB are enough, I promise that.
The dream has only 192 MB RAM too, and if the ROM wasn't made in 5 minutes, it runs really fast.
I'm building my own ROMs, so you see I have some experience.
Yes, if you really want to run Hero as everyday-system, you can buy a 32A.
But personally I find the Hero UI is unefficient, slow (even on the HTC Hero) and doesn't look nice.
I think the hype arround the Hero is what it is - Hype - not more.
All the "oh-so-nice" features of the Hero can be installed from the market.
HTC Peep (btw the slowest Twitter client I ever saw, updating tweets takes 1:30 mins) - Twidroid (very fast)
Facebook - Bloo (I think that's the name)
Flickr - Just use the browser
Additionally I don't like the Hero Browser.
Flash? This version shows you annoying ads, not more. Oh I forgot - it shows YOUTUBE, woow.
Full Screen Browsing? I want to see my status bar
Optical Bookmarks? Slow and only 2 bookmarks are fitting on the screen. I have to scroll much.
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Sounds like you have hero issues. I can't help you with the opinion on the apps you mentio, I don't use them. I do like the bookmarkes widget , I can see 4 at a time. I also really like other parts of the Rom, but that's not what this thread is about.
I would still buy the 32a. It's not am upgrade after if you don't like the 32b your stuck selling or living with it. I'd rather have the extra and not ever use it than need/want it and not have it. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
Clinton

baggus said:
I bought a brand new HTC magic 32A for 235€(960PLN) here in Poland and payed 13$ for unlocking it. So, find a way how to buy a phone in Poland and it will be much cheaper.
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Wow! In Italy they are both sold at 450€!

yelo3 said:
Wow! In Italy they are both sold at 450€!
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I bought mine brand new turned on only for 2 minutes for 899 PLN it's 32a 288mb of ram version :>

ClintonH said:
Sounds like you have hero issues. I can't help you with the opinion on the apps you mentio, I don't use them. I do like the bookmarkes widget , I can see 4 at a time. I also really like other parts of the Rom, but that's not what this thread is about.
I would still buy the 32a. It's not am upgrade after if you don't like the 32b your stuck selling or living with it. I'd rather have the extra and not ever use it than need/want it and not have it. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
Clinton
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Yeah, in the Bookmarks Widget you get 4.
BTW the Widget can be replaced by a live folder you can find on the market..
This is what this thread should be about ;-)
The 32B is so much cheaper ;-)

Makula said:
Nice idea! any advice where to look?
Thanks in advance!
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Look here: http://allegro.pl/item730320841_htc_magic_nowy_prosto_od_orange.html(use google-translate). 950zl=231euro. It won't be easy thought since hardly anybody uses ebay and paypal in Poland(allegro.pl was launched before ebay.pl).

baggus said:
I bought a brand new HTC magic 32A for 235€(960PLN) here in Poland and payed 13$ for unlocking it. So, find a way how to buy a phone in Poland and it will be much cheaper.
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what site did you have it unlocked with? thanks!

maxisma said:
And really, you don't need 288 MB RAM for a phone. 192 MB are enough, I promise that.
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"You only need 640kb of memory" - Bill Gates

I have 32A and have zero problems. Matter of fact, it's alot easier to root and get ROMS on IMO. I also have the hero ROM and it was abit slow at first but after I overclocked with the overclock widget on the app store it was night and day. I love the phone now. I think I have had maybe 1 crash in over 2 months with the hero ROM I have installed. And to me, the flash web browser is the best I've seen. You get more of a desktop feel when surfing the web. Plus if you don't like it, I beleive you can turn off the flash.

shoktong said:
what site did you have it unlocked with? thanks!
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190328855196

Got a X10

Just got an X10, i've been using Legend for some days now (im in the business, as you might imagine)
The first thing that struck me: the keyboard... It doesn't register all key presses, compared to the Legend, it's really frustrating to writing on X10.
I've been happy with the speed on Legend, and thought that X10 would be even more blazing fast. But it isn't. Actually, its slower (!) I tried install Raging Thunder II on both phones, and it's running more smooth on the Legend.
X10 have way better hardware, but an older OS. Don't know how much this has to do with the fact that X10 seems slower than the Legend.
Would be interesting if the Desire ROM could be installed on X10
For now, I feel that HTC has done a way better job, customizing Android on a phone, and i'm gonna stick to Legend as my primary phone. But gonna use X10 for some weeks with twin simcard. Just want to test it properly

Try SmartKeyboardPro on X10. Must better that Standart Keyboard.
Try Asphalt 5 on X10 to see whats a good game
What compilation do you have? IE, your firmware.

Where did you get the X10? are you in the UK?

redesignni said:
Where did you get the X10? are you in the UK?
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Beautiful Norway

Is there anything you like about it.. at all?

MCoimbra said:
Try SmartKeyboardPro on X10. Must better that Standart Keyboard.
Try Asphalt 5 on X10 to see whats a good game
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Beautiful Norway doesn't get to buy apps just yet. SmartKeyboardPro is paid right?

arxx said:
Beautiful Norway doesn't get to buy apps just yet. SmartKeyboardPro is paid right?
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Yes. I think there's a free version named SmartKeyboard (without pro). If not try to change from standart keyboard to Android Keyboard.
X10 keyboard has a good layout but doesnt register some key. I had the same problem you have.
Can you tell me your firmware version, pls? Just to compare

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Is there anything you like about it.. at all?
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Yeah
The screen is really nice. big and high res.
I don't mean, and try to be negative about X10. Guess I really was a bit surprised that i found Legend (low cost Android compared to X10) to be a better phone.. for now.. It might just be that Android 2.1 runs way better. I don't know.. But ok. i'll be fair. Going to update this post in a few days, gonna use them both for a few weeks

did you purchase it from an online store or did you get it from a business or something?

My delayed X10 arrives tommorow...
Ive also used the Legend since it came, and love it!!!
However, its the X10 I was looking forward too....
So, Ill give it the easter vacation to make a decition on what phone to keep...
Probabely both....

it comes with android 2.0 right? or is it 1.6?

it comes with 1,6. an 2.x update will come later this year(hopefully this year)

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it comes with 1,6. an 2.x update will come later this year(hopefully this year)
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thats what I thought, but I ordered mine and they told me that its coming with 2.0. Everyone says it ships with 1.6, but he insisted that mine will ship with 2.0. I guess I'll have to wait and see. Arxx can you double check and see what yours is

anyone tried download dolphin browser from the market and multi touch working on dolphin browser

Yes, please. I really wish someone already has a X10 in hand, please test if multi-touch zooming works in Dolphin browser. I ordered mine, and mine is shipping on its way. I'm so worried about the negative multi-touch news came out today.

ivansee said:
Yes, please. I really wish someone already has a X10 in hand, please test if multi-touch zooming works in Dolphin browser. I ordered mine, and mine is shipping on its way. I'm so worried about the negative multi-touch news came out today.
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Multi-touch zoom will not work in Dolphin, or any other software. SE have confirmed that the X10 lacks any kind of hardware multi-touch support. No hardware, means no support. Period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6023963&postcount=43

ivansee said:
Yes, please. I really wish someone already has a X10 in hand, please test if multi-touch zooming works in Dolphin browser. I ordered mine, and mine is shipping on its way. I'm so worried about the negative multi-touch news came out today.
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Just tested, and now i can confirm that under Dolphin browser, there is no multi / dual touch . Hope with Android 2.x there will be at least dual touch...

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thats what I thought, but I ordered mine and they told me that its coming with 2.0. Everyone says it ships with 1.6, but he insisted that mine will ship with 2.0. I guess I'll have to wait and see. Arxx can you double check and see what yours is
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Its 1.6 i'm afraid...

arxx said:
Its 1.6 i'm afraid...
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it will be 1.6 100% ! The 2.x update will be in Q3...

Now I've been sitting with my X10 for a couples of hours...
..and Im not really impressed. I do not like the keyboard, the device feels slow, timescape I know I will never use... Touchscreen feels to plastic-like..
The legend feels 10 times as good...
And dont get me started on exchange integration.. That part is just a joke...
It works kind of... But its just a mess....
And I who really was looking forward to this phone :/

HTC Gratia Froyo sense ROM? anyone?

Hey guys I just found out about this european version of the htc aria coming soon and running froyo sooo I guess we can get a port over to the slide when a leaked rom is found... right? check it out is suposed to come out in november but the leaks always come out sooner xD so maybe we will finally see a froyo sense rom for the slide by next month or christmas

etu_aty said:
Hey guys I just found out about this european version of the htc aria coming soon and running froyo sooo I guess we can get a port over to the slide when a leaked rom is found... right? check it out is suposed to come out in november but the leaks always come out sooner xD so maybe we will finally see a froyo sense rom for the slide by next month or christmas
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this just might work

From looking over the specs it would have similar issue as the myTouch HD ROM, only in the other direction... it has a lower resolution than we do.

RavenWulf said:
From looking over the specs it would have similar issue as the myTouch HD ROM, only in the other direction... it has a lower resolution than we do.
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it wouldnt, it has the same processor and the same resolution... whats smaller is the screen size xD
i think it would be an "easy" port... but im not a dev so idk...

etu_aty said:
it wouldnt, it has the same processor and the same resolution... whats smaller is the screen size xD
i think it would be an "easy" port... but im not a dev so idk...
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Yeah I was suffering from a momentary case of cranial flatulance on the resolution. For some reason I saw 320x480 and was thinking QVGA not HVGA. So yeah in theory other than adding the coding for the hard keyboard it "should" be fairly easy. Maybe Ace or Miquel could take a peak and let us rookies know. I can flash like a champ and help out with some minor issues/questions but am mostly code-tarded

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Yeah I was suffering from a momentary case of cranial flatulance on the resolution. For some reason I saw 320x480 and was thinking QVGA not HVGA. So yeah in theory other than adding the coding for the hard keyboard it "should" be fairly easy. Maybe Ace or Miquel could take a peak and let us rookies know. I can flash like a champ and help out with some minor issues/questions but am mostly code-tarded
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haha same here... guess we have to wait for the leak or a dump to come around and then try to get it working on the slide

This rom would be portable, I never heard of that phone, but I'll look it up for some info... Kb support can be done, has been done 100's times on G1+sense roms.

Well, this probably means that an official Froyo release for the Aria is close too. One thing that kind of concerns me is that I have seen more than one web site state that the Gratia will not run the "new Sense UI". I am still within the 30 day return window on my Aria, I got it because a) I did not want to be like 90% of the people around me with a iPhone 3GS or 4 b) it is small, I absolutely despite the size of the Galaxy S. However, if this is already incapable of running today's OS I will likely return it and grudgingly get an iPhone 4. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T on account of my wife and daughter being iPhone drones.

I wouldn't worry too much about it not running the new Sense. a) You haven't used it, so you don't even know if you'll like the changes. b) A ROM is sure to surface. c) I didn't think I'd like a ROM without sense, but now find myself really liking the vanilla Android experience.
So if you like the phone, I wouldn't return it based on what it's officially not getting. The wonderful thing is that there are options.

I did it. Still has some bugs though, but I'm loving it GratiousSlide in the dev section.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Gratia rom
Hi
Does anybody know how to make gratia rom to read sd card?

etu_aty said:
Hey guys I just found out about this european version of the htc aria coming soon and running froyo sooo I guess we can get a port over to the slide when a leaked rom is found... right? check it out is suposed to come out in november but the leaks always come out sooner xD so maybe we will finally see a froyo sense rom for the slide by next month or christmas
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Has anyone ever been able to find a Froyo dump of that HTC Gratia ? I'm looking for it, but I can't find anything even here on XDA :-(.
EDIT: I should have searched better. LOL. Just found some traces of a rom based off a Gratia stock rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819715. Thx.

There are plenty...
Here is one that is the latest Asian Gratia froyo leak one I could find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062149&highlight=football but still running FRF91 2.2.1
Here is one that has FRG83G (2.2.2) but it is AT&T branded and you will have to change a few lines in the .xml files to enabled "unknown apps" install. http://dl3.htc.com/application/sync/htc_sync_3.0.5617_us.exe