Got a X10 - XPERIA X10 General

Just got an X10, i've been using Legend for some days now (im in the business, as you might imagine)
The first thing that struck me: the keyboard... It doesn't register all key presses, compared to the Legend, it's really frustrating to writing on X10.
I've been happy with the speed on Legend, and thought that X10 would be even more blazing fast. But it isn't. Actually, its slower (!) I tried install Raging Thunder II on both phones, and it's running more smooth on the Legend.
X10 have way better hardware, but an older OS. Don't know how much this has to do with the fact that X10 seems slower than the Legend.
Would be interesting if the Desire ROM could be installed on X10
For now, I feel that HTC has done a way better job, customizing Android on a phone, and i'm gonna stick to Legend as my primary phone. But gonna use X10 for some weeks with twin simcard. Just want to test it properly

Try SmartKeyboardPro on X10. Must better that Standart Keyboard.
Try Asphalt 5 on X10 to see whats a good game
What compilation do you have? IE, your firmware.

Where did you get the X10? are you in the UK?

redesignni said:
Where did you get the X10? are you in the UK?
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Beautiful Norway

Is there anything you like about it.. at all?

MCoimbra said:
Try SmartKeyboardPro on X10. Must better that Standart Keyboard.
Try Asphalt 5 on X10 to see whats a good game
What compilation do you have? IE, your firmware.
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Beautiful Norway doesn't get to buy apps just yet. SmartKeyboardPro is paid right?

arxx said:
Beautiful Norway doesn't get to buy apps just yet. SmartKeyboardPro is paid right?
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Yes. I think there's a free version named SmartKeyboard (without pro). If not try to change from standart keyboard to Android Keyboard.
X10 keyboard has a good layout but doesnt register some key. I had the same problem you have.
Can you tell me your firmware version, pls? Just to compare

Muse.Invincible said:
Is there anything you like about it.. at all?
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Yeah
The screen is really nice. big and high res.
I don't mean, and try to be negative about X10. Guess I really was a bit surprised that i found Legend (low cost Android compared to X10) to be a better phone.. for now.. It might just be that Android 2.1 runs way better. I don't know.. But ok. i'll be fair. Going to update this post in a few days, gonna use them both for a few weeks

did you purchase it from an online store or did you get it from a business or something?

My delayed X10 arrives tommorow...
Ive also used the Legend since it came, and love it!!!
However, its the X10 I was looking forward too....
So, Ill give it the easter vacation to make a decition on what phone to keep...
Probabely both....

it comes with android 2.0 right? or is it 1.6?

it comes with 1,6. an 2.x update will come later this year(hopefully this year)

ukon said:
it comes with 1,6. an 2.x update will come later this year(hopefully this year)
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thats what I thought, but I ordered mine and they told me that its coming with 2.0. Everyone says it ships with 1.6, but he insisted that mine will ship with 2.0. I guess I'll have to wait and see. Arxx can you double check and see what yours is

anyone tried download dolphin browser from the market and multi touch working on dolphin browser

Yes, please. I really wish someone already has a X10 in hand, please test if multi-touch zooming works in Dolphin browser. I ordered mine, and mine is shipping on its way. I'm so worried about the negative multi-touch news came out today.

ivansee said:
Yes, please. I really wish someone already has a X10 in hand, please test if multi-touch zooming works in Dolphin browser. I ordered mine, and mine is shipping on its way. I'm so worried about the negative multi-touch news came out today.
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Multi-touch zoom will not work in Dolphin, or any other software. SE have confirmed that the X10 lacks any kind of hardware multi-touch support. No hardware, means no support. Period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6023963&postcount=43

ivansee said:
Yes, please. I really wish someone already has a X10 in hand, please test if multi-touch zooming works in Dolphin browser. I ordered mine, and mine is shipping on its way. I'm so worried about the negative multi-touch news came out today.
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Just tested, and now i can confirm that under Dolphin browser, there is no multi / dual touch . Hope with Android 2.x there will be at least dual touch...

waleed786 said:
thats what I thought, but I ordered mine and they told me that its coming with 2.0. Everyone says it ships with 1.6, but he insisted that mine will ship with 2.0. I guess I'll have to wait and see. Arxx can you double check and see what yours is
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Its 1.6 i'm afraid...

arxx said:
Its 1.6 i'm afraid...
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it will be 1.6 100% ! The 2.x update will be in Q3...

Now I've been sitting with my X10 for a couples of hours...
..and Im not really impressed. I do not like the keyboard, the device feels slow, timescape I know I will never use... Touchscreen feels to plastic-like..
The legend feels 10 times as good...
And dont get me started on exchange integration.. That part is just a joke...
It works kind of... But its just a mess....
And I who really was looking forward to this phone :/

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Getting Bored with HD. Any ideas ?

Now that its been few weeks that i got my HD , im getting bored with it.
Although I used to have XDA and HTC devices in the past, Its really getting boring with HD.
Any cool ideas about making this device extraordinary ? I need new ideas !! thanks
Xeon said:
Now that its been few weeks that i got my HD , im getting bored with it.
Although I used to have XDA and HTC devices in the past, Its really getting boring with HD.
Any cool ideas about making this device extraordinary ? I need new ideas !! thanks
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sell it... to me... $100
or flash the latest ROMs and try fix all the bugs
that should be entertaining and a great service to the community
Give it to me and get a new phone?
Bit of a strange question. How extraordinary can phones be?
Maybe paint it pink, it would look extraordinary then! Do you like playing games? Get some new games for it.
It is not a gaming device u know, No D-pad or keys... So far im still using the stock ROM, no bugs for me.
Xeon said:
Now that its been few weeks that i got my HD , im getting bored with it.
Although I used to have XDA and HTC devices in the past, Its really getting boring with HD.
Any cool ideas about making this device extraordinary ? I need new ideas !! thanks
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Get a girlfriend...........or if you have one: spend a bit more time with her....(phones are usually easier to exchange than the latter.....)
michi123 said:
Get a girlfriend...........or if you have one: spend a bit more time with her....(phones are usually easier to exchange than the latter.....)
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Yaa I do , actually, I was thinking of getting the Touch PRO 2
Install G-Trigger and enjoy the added functionality
moullas said:
Install G-Trigger and enjoy the added functionality
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Nice one. Thats what Im talking about !
I use it to watch tv from my sateliet at home..so i stream my sat signal and watch everywere...and i can change channels...so not bored at all
sevensheaven said:
I use it to watch tv from my sateliet at home..so i stream my sat signal and watch everywere...and i can change channels...so not bored at all
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How do you do that ?!
sevensheaven said:
I use it to watch tv from my sateliet at home..so i stream my sat signal and watch everywere...and i can change channels...so not bored at all
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I hope it is not a Slingbox/slingplayer case. I would be very happy if there is an all-software solution which utilizes a TV card located on a desktop computer
vizier said:
I hope it is not a Slingbox/slingplayer case. I would be very happy if there is an all-software solution which utilizes a TV card located on a desktop computer
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You can use Orb (www.orb.com)
Get microsoft voice commander, and start having conversations with your phone... (to be fair the conversations are limited to asking it about signal strength, battery levels, date, time and upcoming appointments... but it's fun to see the reaction on peoples faces when you talk to your phone and your phone speaks back to you.
also being able to launch applications and mp3s by speaking is just cool.
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You can use Orb (www.orb.com)
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That seems quite interesting
Flash your phone with the latest Radio and Dutty's 2.3.
You will be amazed by the speed and added functionality.
Plus, you don't need to get a Touch Pro 2. Dutty's 2.3 utilizes almost the same manila.
Xeon said:
Now that its been few weeks that i got my HD , im getting bored with it.
Although I used to have XDA and HTC devices in the past, Its really getting boring with HD.
Any cool ideas about making this device extraordinary ? I need new ideas !! thanks
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Would you consider swapping with my silver Xperia X1?
Thanks
Invisible Sense said:
Would you consider swapping with my silver Xperia X1?
Thanks
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I am sorry I still prefer something newer than HD
buy an iphone..... only then can you appreciate the wonders and beauty of the HD....
i have both now and if i had to give up one ...the iphone will be the first to go!!
Xeon said:
How do you do that ?!
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Slingbox. Got mine a week or so ago and i'm loving it; definitely will keep you sticking to your HD with that huge screen.
Invisible Sense said:
Would you consider swapping with my silver Xperia X1?
Thanks
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ill swap you

I left X1 for HD. Enough is enough.

Dear buddies,
i will miss this section of the forums.. you folks have been a blast..
enough is enough. i am moving on to touch HD.
take care
hum.... ok? we wish You all the best. bye bye.
bye bye and welcome back soon , i know many who switched from the Touch HD to the Xperia lol.
Regards,
cHarOn
You're definitely gonna miss out on a lot! Good luck anyways...
What is the reason of your switch ?
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What is the reason of your switch ?
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I think HTC gives better support to Touch HD
although, SE is busy with X1 update(s), it just takes some time.
Also I think there are more Custom roms (cookers) for HTC Touch HD than SE X1
But anyway, wish u luck than
As a SE fan, I am used to wait a lot between all updates... They just want to be sure everything is ok when they release it.
But I can understand your choice, I had the same idea, not because I hate my X1, I just love it, but just to try the Touch HD. Then I could switch back to the X1 if preferred.
Yeah
SE isn't bad at all, but HTC has a lot more experience with WinMo than SE.
Also, SE focusses more on casual mobile users and HTC has more Pro users who knows how to use WinMo.
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What is the reason of your switch ?
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i think leobox had plenty of problem with his X1. Notably on his keyboard, which got very unresponsive. i hope im right here....im sorry if im wrong
anyway the keyboard problem DOES bugging me too...it made me think about Touch HD now...although i might stick around and wait for Touchpro 2...
yes crazy keyboard camera button.. half hearted SE support.. sigh
i went to HTC website .. they even have hot fix for problems between big updates.. seems like good committment...
so far, i loveee the big screen BEST!
but i really miss u all.. think i will pop by here too
I'd rather have something I can spend time on fixing like my PC, but that's just crazy me
Have fun at your new home :d
darn
i am new to winmo, actually the xperia is my first winmo owned device after going tru SE Uiq handsets, played with a few other htc devices, but there is just something about the x1 thats different, i know you will be back lol, its like leaving your BMW home to drive and show off in a Suzuki Swift.
i updated my rom via seus and so far i have never experienced and crashes or hangs, im loving this baby
typed from xperia

Which Xperia is more interesting?

So it seems to be there will be two upcoming Xperia phones. The Xperia X2 and the Xperia Rachael... so which Xperia are u interested in most?
X2, I don't care about android yet, if I ever will.
Hannigan174 said:
X2, I don't care about android yet, if I ever will.
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Seconded. The keyboard is nice too. Android looks promising at the moment, but that's it.
Thirded on that one.
Hardware Keyboard is essential, I can never type fast with a touch keyboard.
the customized Android UI does look very nice on the X3/X5, but the X2 is definitely my winner!
gundamboy said:
Thirded on that one.
Hardware Keyboard is essential, I can never type fast with a touch keyboard.
the customized Android UI does look very nice on the X3/X5, but the X2 is definitely my winner!
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Yeah, although Android UI on SE visualization looks so cool
and leaked specs are great.
But indeed nothing is so complete and productive as WM ATM.
So my choice is X2.
i prefer the racheal,
it looks so sleek and expensive, would love to give android a try. However the lack of hardware keyboard is a killer.
I would need to hold them both first before making a decision, but i think if i did ill run away with them both.
Shame on the shop that puts two xperias in my hand
Sold my X1 and I will def. be getting the Rachael. Does the X2 have the same h/w specs as the X1 besides the camera?
jhendra said:
Sold my X1 and I will def. be getting the Rachael. Does the X2 have the same h/w specs as the X1 besides the camera?
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Not confirmed really by anyone.
Rachael specs from rumours seem great.
Rachael, I'm really interested in Android as an OS. I don't have any interest in WM anymore.
Rachel for me. Can't wait for it. I have been using Windows Mobile for a long time, need a change. I think Android will be very good once it hits 2.0.
If the Rachel had a hardware keyboard i would definately go with it, but i really like the keyboard on the X1 and it is the main feature that first got me interested in it. Also does Android offer sync with e-mail based on MS Outlook?
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If the Rachel had a hardware keyboard i would definately go with it, but i really like the keyboard on the X1 and it is the main feature that first got me interested in it. Also does Android offer sync with e-mail based on MS Outlook?
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Probably not as well as many other features.
I wonder if Android will require a daily hard reset, like my X1?
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I wonder if Android will require a daily hard reset, like my X1?
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i think certain softwares contribute to this hard reset issue, i dont experience this hard reset thing unless i install an application thinking it will work then it freeze other than that my machine is ok meaning no need to reboot
for me the android looks interesting, but i will wait til something come along looking sexier than the x1...btw its good to see orelsi with a change of heart about the leaked x2 lol...i still think its ugly and i wont be getting it, even if its free
i would buy another x1 before i buy the x2, i hardly use my cam and i dont need an accelerometer anyway
perhaps just bad luck?
I never have to hard reset my X1.
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.btw its good to see orelsi with a change of heart about the leaked x2 lol...i still think its ugly and i wont be getting it, even if its free
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LOL !!!!!111ONE11!!!
I was only responding to the OP. I still think it is ugly as ****, but it is way more interesting than that "Rachael" thing.
orelsi said:
LOL !!!!!111ONE11!!!
I was only responding to the OP. I still think it is ugly as ****, but it is way more interesting than that "Rachael" thing.
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I'll never agree on that one.
x2 looks very good.
I don't think I'm going for either phone unfortunately.
Rachael lacks the keyboard.
X2's keyboard not satisfactory enough, and the screen is indeed 3.2 inches which is not big enough for my tastes.
doministry said:
I'll never agree on that one.
x2 looks very good.
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Wut?
orelsi said:
Wut?
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Personall I think the X1 keyboard is the most beautiful keyboard of all phones. However, the X2's front face is ****ing beautiful when you hide the ugly keyboard.

Froyo overall impressions

I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
crap
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I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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test test test
Yeah I wouldnt mind hearing from someone that came from say CM5 to the latest stock Froyo. Is it better? Is it worth flashing now seeing as how CM6 is about a week or so away?
I would try it now myself, but I can't give up the dumb little things. (such as trackball wake)
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo. I was surprised that the final Froyo release seemed faster and smoother than FRF83. The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT. I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
Super. Wonderful. Amazing. Thank you Google and anyone else on the OHA that contributed to this.
It's great. I love it. I love it even more when someone hands me a HTC Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile on it... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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Look at my sig pic, WM is all I ever used for years. I dabbled with android with emulators on my Fuze, then finally made the jump when the N1 was released. After using it for 1 day, I was emotional.
I really can't think of one single thing I miss with WM...
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The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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The JIT actually wouldn't have any impact on loading times. The standard interpreted code is always run initially. It's only once the app starts running that the JIT is able to locate frequently accessed blocks of code that would benefit from compiling to native code.
irishrally said:
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo ...
... I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
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I too have used CyanogenMod since I had my G1. I DID play with, and greatly enjoy the Froyo ROM when it was released by PaulObrien.
But I did miss some of Cyanogens special additions, so I went back to it a few weeks ago.
Now with the latest Froyo out, I may change over - AGAIN!
clickwir said:
... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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hahaha, funny you mentioned that.
A co-worker of mine approached me, and said he bought this Androidâ„¢ phone from a friend. He heard that I know about Android, rooting, apps, etc. so he had some questions for me. He hands me the phone, and I was thrilled to hold this LARGE HTC DEVICE in my hand. I haven't held an EVO, yet, so imagine my joy!!! My first time ya know so I was honored.
It was branded T-MOBILE though ... hhmm, this can't be right!!! It should say Sprint!!!
After seeing the homescreen and tapping/flicking/swiping for all of 1.0 seconds, I handed it back to him and told him he has a Windows Mobile device - NOT ANDROID, and boy oh boy, was he pissed!!!! LMAO
Poor guy!
"If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it."
I let him play with my Nexus for a few minutes. He offered to buy it from me for $450 .... nuh uh homeboy! This is my baby!

Android 2.1 running on x10, (VIDEO)

I dont know if this has been covered yet but i thought you guys would be interested in this information
www youtube com /watch?v=2z-9XgbehQ4
the video shows an X10 running android 2.1, its not clear as to wether its rooted or not but its definately running it
(cant post links, so u have to edit the link before pasting it into your browser )
Pretty nifty! Took forever to boot, hey? Besides the boot logo the fw didnt look SE whored out. Perhaps it is root? Or maybe an early se build?
This video was posted today in youtube.lets hope the guy tell us how he did it
that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
the first logo looks like an Arrow sign , may be downloading something to the phone or something else that is why it took that long
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I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
yeah great no multitouch we get it, does anyone have ANY idea how this was done?
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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And Synaptics has stated several times to me <<just wait and see>>. I believe in multitouch, IMHO it's only a patent problem
For the record Synaptics managed to soft enable multi touch gestures on there standard trackpad panels, its more than possible to enable it with a little bit of fancy work (eg registering each touch seperatly at high speed and then relaying it as a single multi touch gesture to the OS). Multitouch is what everyone is obsessing over today then eh? weather its possible or not is no one else at all at interested in who even did this let alone how?! Peace and love.
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that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
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ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
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ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
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except the fact that its a stock android build and theres no SE UXP stuff?
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it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
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10chars.
If its fake i say we get a hold of his email and email him in bulk stating how much of a **** he is, i however dont think its fake, if it was you would expect much more input/response latency than we are seeing, it looks native, and if he where to fake it he would have used 2.2......
Yes, but if you run it in emulator and access it via wifi in local network, the responses also can be quite good.. And as far as I know, hacking the bootloader is really not easy, and honestly - if I'd done it, at first I would write some informations about what I've done.. And not just some "nothing saying" video on youtube..
yeah i think its a little bit conspicuous but.. im not looking for reasons that its fake, lets just take it at face value for the moment. i still am of the view that remote connection isn't as fast as navigation in that video, im going to test this out tonight.
do vanilla 2.1 have a blue status bar like in our 1.6 X10 ? if not it maybe an early SE 2.1 build that they promised because i clearly see a blue status bar and as you guys mentioned the boot-loader is hard to crack
not sure about that ive heard the phone can have multitouch
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its blocked
skylinegtrvspec said:
its blocked
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Can you please give your delusions a rest? I mean... I respect that you wanna give yourself false hope, but please don't give disappointments to the community around you.
It's a fact that it's been officially announced that the hardware doesn't have the capapilities.
I can introduce you a good search engine called 'Google', and to can visit the official Sony Ericsson blogs for the facts.
Sigh...

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