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Hello,
Is it possible to root the HTC Dream from rogers yet? I just purchased one yesterday and I am not sure if the procedure is the same as for the T-Mobile G1.
Thanks
I too would like more information on this. Thanks in advance.
Dream...
I believe the Dream and the G1 are actually the same devices. So what you can do to one, should also apply to the other.
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
I wouldn't use the DREAIMG.NBH rooting procedure on the Rogers Dream. If I recall correctly, it includes a radio image (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, you wouldn't want to try to flash the radio from the G1 to your Rogers version that uses different frequencies.
I would venture a guess that the method Haykuro used to root the Sapphire would work, and should be safe to try even if it doesn't. Go here:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
I got that from a post in the Sapphire forum here on XDA Developers.
The key is to flash the recovery image with the rooted recovery image. I don't know what difference there may be between the magic and dream recovery images - you may want to grab the modified recovery image specifically for the dream and use it instead of the one on the wiki page.
Wish I had a Rogers Dream so I could try it. If any of you with this handset try it, post the result here!
silverchris said:
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
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I'm wondering this too. I'm not new to flashing devices etc but THIS is all new to me lol ... I found more info on This page that also explains about the radio however, I'm not sure what all applies or how things change with the Rogers phone. The more I read the more confused I get. One site said follow the link above and you wont have any problems, another said dont follow the site in order but do the radio first then flash the SPL.
Can someone please confirm the steps required to root the Rogers phone and then flash haykuro's ROgers ROM please? I just dont want to brick my device if at all possible (not that anyone really wants to brick their phones).
THanks guys!!
I am going to see if I can boot any of the recovery images without flashing them. I read in a thread thats possible....
None of the recovery images I've tried will boot on my device, Haykuro told me he's working on a solution with dream_kill to root this device.
So it can't be rooted yet?
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
evilpig said:
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
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ya we must be patient.
i don't do that so well
the waiting game
I will be waiting as well. Though as soon as the US rooting procedure failed for me, I felt like Rogers had just bent me over and shoved a big rusty sand covered......you get the idea. Was it not enough to put Rogers logos all over the phone, but you had to take away our rooting ability's as well? How sad. But I like the phone too much to take it back Oh well, wait and hope for the best
All you guys (and girls) working on this, you totally rock!
Well, guess we're all in the same boat. I have been reading some of the other threads though, seems like maxawesome, has the Rogers Dream version, and had success rooting and flashing a few days ago, maybe he could share? Looks as though he is the first and possibly only to get root so far for rogers. I tried sending a pm to him, but not sure it went through. You should try, he has some posts in the "rogers rom" thread, just doesn't indicate which SPL version he ended up using.
I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Lets just hope we get to rooting our phones soon!
Just a suggestion: Perhaps you Canadians can try the goldcard method used for non-US/UK Dreams described in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that the updated SPL may cause bricking when the older radio is used. Please disregard this post!
Wasn't it just the haykuro modified spl that caused bricking? Of course, there is more to the radio on this device, even if it doesn't brick it, may result in a non-functional radio (until the correct radio is put back).
Work in progress
I see haykuro is working on it here
More waiting and searching.
Any other updates on where haykuro (or anyone else working on this) is at?
i think haykuro is looking for a device but its still hard to find in USA.
hrmmm ... wonder if we can put a call out and some extremely generous Canadian can send one to him ... seriously if I had a way to get my hand on another one without having to fork out $700 I'd totally contribute a phone
This post for anyone who knows how to root the new updated Rogers HTC Magic with the new:
32A
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
Please post any comments or suggestions if they are applicable.
Thank you.
Rogers HTC Magic (32A)
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
I'm in the same boat. Updated my phone with the Rogers updater, and 1.76.0010 seems to be a perfected SPL. I'm going to attempt the gold card method once I get the necessary hardware this weekend. I'm just concerned I might brick my phone, since all the gold card tutorials are pretty old...
+1
Any results?
Diddo, same problem. Tried the "One Click Root", no joy.
I thought that the data connection issue was b/c of the new radio so I foolishly listened to Rogers. Last time I make that mistake.
I am also in dire ned of a method to root this, or even reverse Rogers....
Maybe try the full version of the Relenless Rooter plus (the one for perfected SPL) software? It seems that 1.76.0010 is a perfect SPL.
Thankfully, I read all over the web and decided not to use the security patch that Rogers suggested and did not update. I kept the 1.33.0009 SPL and was able to use the normal Relenless Rooter software. Don't know it the full software will work for the 1.76.0010 SPL but why don't give it a try.
i'm pretty sure it has already been tried, and doesn't work
i too, am in the same boat
rogers kind of bullied us into this update, and i feel really stupid for falling for it.
i hope someone is working on a fix, tho i am yet to read one post saying that someone is.
Not to be mean or rude or a troll, but there were several warnings against updating with the official RUU.
In fact the "Rogers Mandatory Update Thread" many people mentioned many times to just wait till it was rooted then flash the rooted ROM.
But some people had to be hasty...
Taknarosh said:
Not to be mean or rude or a troll, but there were several warnings against updating with the official RUU.
In fact the "Rogers Mandatory Update Thread" many people mentioned many times to just wait till it was rooted then flash the rooted ROM.
But some people had to be hasty...
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Complicated procedure? You are mixing up two methods that made it possible to keep root. For cursor, all u needed to do was flash spl and radio, then his Rom, that's it. There is another method that allows u to keep original radio and. Spl, this one uses a script after applying a new rom. Just giving the facts, I do feel sorry for those that jumped the gun though, i was really close myself
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Yes and no. What do you expect when Rogers cut off your data if you don't update. If you went to Android forums or here, you'll find what kind of saga people with rooted phones went in order to obtain data back.
So, at that time, people with the original cupcake had three choices: Root the phone and go through curse droid's complicated process to get his rom, root and find another Rom + patch so as to trick Rogers into believing that the phone has been updated, or just go ahead and flash the official rom (and then hope someone can root it).
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Rogers cut off my data. I rooted phone and applied CursorSense ROM and now i'm good.
I would be happy to help any Roger customers who want to apply this ROM. The steps are pretty straight forward as long as you have some computer knowledge.
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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That's the reason for this thread. The update includes a new radio and no developer have found a way around it. Maybe the main developers (aka chefs) have moved on to newer and more exciting devices, like the Nexus One.
Who knows, maybe you guys can band together and pay a developer to do this?
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That's the reason for this thread. The update includes a new radio and no developer have found a way around it. Maybe the main developers (aka chefs) have moved on to newer and more exciting devices, like the Nexus One.
Who knows, maybe you guys can band together and pay a developer to do this?
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It's the SPL that's perfected. Not the radio. And most devs for the 32A are still here. It's mostly G1/Dream devs namely Cyanogen who have moved on to the Nexus One.
Amon_RA is still giving updates to the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic and Hero.
crystalbellaboo said:
how do you root your phone after it has been updated? or how do you undo the update to root it? any help would be appreciated
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I didn't update my phone. I didn't realise that this was a problem. Sorry to get your hopes up.
Taknarosh said:
It's the SPL that's perfected. Not the radio. And most devs for the 32A are still here. It's mostly G1/Dream devs namely Cyanogen who have moved on to the Nexus One.
Amon_RA is still giving updates to the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic and Hero.
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You are right about the SPL. I meant that too. I mixed Radio and SPL because Rogers is scanning for the new radio even for those who have root, as the developers page show.
Anyway, best of luck to those who upgraded and got the perfected SPL. Maybe someone can ask a favor from one of the developers?
Some help with rooting the 32A magic from rogers
Already asked for help via PM, no dice. I suspect that after the update the devs are inundated with requests. I'm happy to pay for someone to figure this out, but don't really know who to approach. Anyone?
So still no luck on anyone rooting this update... This is taking a lot longer then I thought it would. I only did the update because I was sure someone would be willing to jump right on and root this new SPL but no dice.
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So still no luck on anyone rooting this update... This is taking a lot longer then I thought it would. I only did the update because I was sure someone would be willing to jump right on and root this new SPL but no dice.
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I know what you mean... hopefully someone comes through for us.
novadoc said:
I know what you mean... hopefully someone comes through for us.
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If we dont get root within the month then I'm calling Rogers and complaining to them about random misc stuff that I'll make up about the phone to get rid of it and get a new(better) phone.
I just updated to the newest Froyo RUU ROM from HTC... Am I right that now I cant root my Device and I have to wait?
thanks
i think you have to wait for root now
Oh dear GOD! Another topic????????????
.... Oh my god.
i have warned abute this since start.
unfortunately people dont see those warnings.
i say it agin, and someone should make a sticky topic abute this. DONT flash ruu after you have rooted your phone. Use safe released that have removed recovery, hboot +- radio and other unnessesary stuff that may be protected by HTC.
this isent the first or the last topic we will see with this problem.
A sticky warning is recomended...
danne_jo said:
i have warned abute this since start.
unfortunately people dont see those warnings.
i say it agin, and someone should make a sticky topic abute this. DONT flash ruu after you have rooted your phone. Use safe released that have removed recovery, hboot +- radio and other unnessesary stuff that may be protected by HTC.
this isent the first or the last topic we will see with this problem.
A sticky warning is recomended...
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Yeah. And a sticky warning once Froyo can be rooted.
danne_jo said:
i have warned abute this since start.
unfortunately people dont see those warnings.
i say it agin, and someone should make a sticky topic abute this. DONT flash ruu after you have rooted your phone. Use safe released that have removed recovery, hboot +- radio and other unnessesary stuff that may be protected by HTC.
this isent the first or the last topic we will see with this problem.
A sticky warning is recomended...
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I second that ... where is forum mod... we have been warning about this since soo long.. i even made a thread about this.. why isn't this info sticky..
Third this
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Done a warning
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I fourth this!
Sent with love from f0xy while mobile!
I "five" this! We should make a sticky on carelessness!
If everyone would read the basics, there would be aprox.50 posts instead of 1000 or so...
Turkey's guide should be renamed so people would know it covers all the basics regarding Android OS and the rest.
Fortunately I decided to take a look at it before posting more of the same questions. And yet I knew how to root, that's what it's titled anyway...
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Looks like Froyo for 1.2 & Fender users is on it's way! As posted on the T-Mobile forums.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-3G/Ladies-and-Gentlemen-Froyo/m-p/505229/highlight/true#M63410
budney said:
Looks like Froyo for 1.2 & Fender users is on it's way! As posted on the T-Mobile forums.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-3G/Ladies-and-Gentlemen-Froyo/m-p/505229/highlight/true#M63410
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Nice find! I'll sticky this for a couple weeks and we'll see where it goes from here.
Yes, hopefully we will get a proper version of the 2708 Radio for the 1.2
Cool, I'll be unrooting the wife's phone for this.
O.T.A. for My Touch 3g Fender/1.2
Okay this thread is for the My Touch 1.2/Fender OTA to be released 1/12/11. If you have any insight as to what we need to do to "catch" this update please post here. I know a lot of people are going to say the Magic OTA has already been released but this is a different phone that was not included in the first update and I'm sure the Magic forum Moderator knows this better than most. Does anyone know for sure if we can just be on the stock Fender ROM with root and still receive the OTA? Any information regarding this topic is welcome please post for the rest of us!
JeffakaJeff and I have custom build of this update for people who want root and the update go here.
fender/1.2 i the same as 32A?
Fender 32a
tass0s said:
fender/1.2 i the same as 32A?
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They are not the same the Fender/1.2 is a 32a but they use the EBI0 kernel like the 32b Dream. From what I have seen the 32a Magic use the EBI1 kernel (correct?).
Edubyah said:
They are not the same the Fender/1.2 is a 32a but they use the EB0 kernel like the 32b Dream. From what I have seen the 32a Magic use the EB1 kernel (correct?).
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yes its eb1
Edubyah said:
Okay this thread is for the My Touch 1.2/Fender OTA to be released 1/12/11. If you have any insight as to what we need to do to "catch" this update please post here. I know a lot of people are going to say the Magic OTA has already been released but this is a different phone that was not included in the first update and I'm sure the Magic forum Moderator knows this better than most. Does anyone know for sure if we can just be on the stock Fender ROM with root and still receive the OTA? Any information regarding this topic is welcome please post for the rest of us!
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fender/1.2 i the same as 32A?
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Edubyah said:
They are not the same the Fender/1.2 is a 32a but they use the EB0 kernel like the 32b Dream. From what I have seen the 32a Magic use the EB1 kernel (correct?).
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yes its eb1
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You guys must have issues reading and searching. Not only has this been discussed... but I started an entire new thread just for this phone. And because I knew that would not be enough... I started a WHOLE new thread dedicated to the update just for this phone. Hell, I even made them stickies! Yet... here we are.
I merged your thread in with the appropriate topic already in discussion.
Un-rooting
DonJuan692006 said:
Cool, I'll be unrooting the wife's phone for this.
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Does anyone know for sure that's necessary? I've heard that being on Binary's deodexed fender with root would suffice to receive the update. Anybody know for sure?
I know nobody want's to talk about it but that damn keyboard is the only reason I'm doing this to begin with.
Something else look at the tags this thread won't show up in a search NO TAGS!!!
Logcat to get update links
Edubyah said:
If you have any insight as to what we need to do to "catch" this update please post here.
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Use logcat (search this forum) to capture the download link(s).
Expecting three separate zip files we collectively need links for. First should be new hboot/radio package. Second will be the ROM package for each device (one for for 1.2 and one for Fender.)
Edit: No more than two files, we already have hboot and a radio update (if any) would be packaged with the ROM itself. - K
Now what I want to know is will this keep my phone from rebooting when I get a Gmail or SMS notification while using Google Nav and Pandora radio at the same time?
Kind Regards,
Kevin
kpetrie77 said:
Use logcat (search this forum) to capture the download link(s).
Expecting three separate zip files we collectively need links for. First should be new hboot/radio package. Second will be the ROM package for each device (one for for 1.2 and one for Fender.)
Now what I want to know is will this keep my phone from rebooting when I get a Gmail or SMS notification while using Google Nav and Pandora radio at the same time?
Kind Regards,
Kevin
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So being hooked to ADB running DDMS will give you the links?
I unrooted the wifes phone to make sure it catches the update. I'll be sticking with CM 6.1. I'm going to have her not do the updates when she gets prompted so I can pull the links. I don't imagine we'll see an SPL update, but I'm thinking we might get the new radio. We'll see, unless its in that announcement from T-Mobile already.
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DonJuan692006 said:
I unrooted the wifes phone to make sure it catches the update. I'll be sticking with CM 6.1. I'm going to have her not do the updates when she gets prompted so I can pull the links. I don't imagine we'll see an SPL update, but I'm thinking we might get the new radio. We'll see, unless its in that announcement from T-Mobile already.
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I'm going to try the stock Fender w/root. A while back I un-rooted and re-rooted but with the UniversalAndroot this time, so I should show up as stock if I am on 1.6 and my build.prop is right. Anybody know of an app that would store logcat on sdcard?
DonJuan692006 said:
I unrooted the wifes phone to make sure it catches the update. I'll be sticking with CM 6.1. I'm going to have her not do the updates when she gets prompted so I can pull the links. I don't imagine we'll see an SPL update, but I'm thinking we might get the new radio. We'll see, unless its in that announcement from T-Mobile already.
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I'm going to try the stock Fender w/root. A while back I un-rooted and re-rooted but with the UniversalAndroot this time, so I should show up as stock if I am on 1.6 and my build.prop is right. Anybody know of an app that would store logcat on sdcard?
I found a nice one in the market and the best thing about is after testing the logcat won't start when I start the app it will have information from long before the app starting point so this should work nicely.- See the update message start the logcat and it should go back far enough to include when the message was sent and any temporary cache download links (lets hope) This should get me the first one till I get home and hook to my computer-will running the ddms during the update process get any subsequent links?
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Does anyone know for sure that's necessary? I've heard that being on Binary's deodexed fender with root would suffice to receive the update. Anybody know for sure?
I know nobody want's to talk about it but that damn keyboard is the only reason I'm doing this to begin with.
Something else look at the tags this thread won't show up in a search NO TAGS!!!
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I'll add some tags in a few minutes.
If you are just using the stock just for the Swype keyboard you can look into SlideIT. Can't remember how much it costs but it's pretty much the same thing. Really. Some may even argue that it's better.
Regarding the update for the rooted stock roms... you should be able to get the update still. My theory is that the rom, spl and radio would be the only thing to get the update. Rom (stock), SPL, (1.33.0013), radio (2.22.23.02) possibly kernel. If any of these are different then you may not get the update. Another theory of mine is that it may require a certain build.prop file. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure that I used the same build.prop file in my rooted stock rom. So either way I don't see why you wouldn't still get the update.
Looks like I need to find a flashable 2.23.XX radio I switched to the 2708 radio when it came out.
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Looks like I need to find a flashable 2.23.XX radio I switched to the 2708 radio when it came out.
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And I bet that you didn't notice any difference, did you?
Anything to read a logcat will work. Download links should look something like below:
I/SystemUpdateService( 358): starting download of http://android.clients.google.com/packages/ota/tmobile_opal/package-name-here.zip
Just so I don't get a reply about this link not working... Again, just an example of what you are looking for.
Kind Regards,
Kevin
kpetrie77 said:
Anything to read a logcat will work. Download links should look something like below:
I/SystemUpdateService( 358): starting download of http://android.clients.google.com/packages/ota/tmobile_opal/package-name-here.zip
Just so I don't get a reply about this link not working... Again, just an example of what you are looking for.
Kind Regards,
Kevin
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Hey i dunno wat da problm is but dat link isnt workn 4 me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Just kidding. Only giving you an example of what I have to go through on a daily basis.)
the sprint ginger bread ota come's with a new hboot if no one has seen it.
so i'm posting it here EVO_HBoot_2.16.0001 - Not downgradeable - Latest
sorry if it's in the wrong place but i'm new here and i can't post it in the dev forum sorry.
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the sprint ginger bread ota come's with a new hboot if no one has seen it.
so i'm posting it here EVO_HBoot_2.16.0001 - Not downgradeable - Latest
sorry if it's in the wrong place but i'm new here and i can't post it in the dev forum sorry.
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This has been posted many, many times.
It is downgradable if phone is still set at S-OFF from a previous root.