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poor wifi reception is a known issue right?

Just wondering, I've heard mumbles here and there that wifi on the 8525 is quite poor. The reason I want to make sure is because I recently updated my ROM and stuff from the factory installed cingular ones to the newest ATT ones offered on HTC's site. For the short time that I had the factory ROM, i could get a fairly good signal, but now that i have the newest rom and radio and all that, I can barely get a good signal practically anywhere. I'm one floor, directly above the router and I can get a 'very good' signal with my computer and my other pda, but i can hardly get one bar with my 8525. is the wifi really THIS bad? i have the settings set to best performance and i've tried nearly everything on this forum.

evilelf2407 said:
Just wondering, I've heard mumbles here and there that wifi on the 8525 is quite poor. The reason I want to make sure is because I recently updated my ROM and stuff from the factory installed cingular ones to the newest ATT ones offered on HTC's site. For the short time that I had the factory ROM, i could get a fairly good signal, but now that i have the newest rom and radio and all that, I can barely get a good signal practically anywhere. I'm one floor, directly above the router and I can get a 'very good' signal with my computer and my other pda, but i can hardly get one bar with my 8525. is the wifi really THIS bad? i have the settings set to best performance and i've tried nearly everything on this forum.
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This has been dealt with before - generally the range is 10 to 15 metres with perhaps 1 to 2 interior walls between. Beyond that is very dodgy.
Mike

if i went back to the original radio do you think that would make it work better again? if so, how would i do that?

Fido/Rogers Subcribers: Which Radio are you using?

I haven't experienced any problems with 1.40, 1.41 or 1.43
But I was just wondering which do you all prefer?
Please state subscriber.

ChiGGz said:
I haven't experienced any problems with 1.40, 1.41 or 1.43
But I was just wondering which do you all prefer?
Please state subscriber.
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The official Rogers radio version is 1.42.00.00 (i.e. this is what is on the TyTN's that they are now selling). I am using 1.40.30.00 and it is working well for me. Did not bother trying 1.43.00.00 since many North American users appeared to be having problems with it, leading me to believe that it has been tweaked for European users.
John

johnburn said:
The official Rogers radio version is 1.42.00.00 (i.e. this is what is on the TyTN's that they are now selling). I am using 1.40.30.00 and it is working well for me. Did not bother trying 1.43.00.00 since many North American users appeared to be having problems with it, leading me to believe that it has been tweaked for European users.
John
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I'm using 1.41.00.10 with no problems, though I am using it voice only (no data -- Rogers can go screw themselves with their ridiculous prices /rant off).
Are the majority of problems people having with different radios more on the voice or data side of things, or is that somewhat irrelevant?

I'm using 1.41 on Rogers. I don't use 3G often, mostly just EDGE and voice. Battery only gets me through a day, but besides that, I don't have any voice quality\dropped call issues, data is stable and fast, all is good.

dtx said:
I'm using 1.41 on Rogers. I don't use 3G often, mostly just EDGE and voice. Battery only gets me through a day, but besides that, I don't have any voice quality\dropped call issues, data is stable and fast, all is good.
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I have had 1.43.00.00 since it was released, no issue's nor have I had any issues with 1.41 or 1.40.
Rogers doesn't seam to have the issues that some of the UK and US systems are having. My guess is that there are fewer providers in Canada and less radio traffic to compete with and more concentrated towers for many areas.

messaging not working now
had sucesssfully upgraded to latest rom by black shodow, with radio 1.43, now messaging is not working, is it bec of radio.

Could somebody kindly point me to the right direction regarding any Roger's roms? I've done a search but came up with nothing

I'm using 1.47 on Rogers w/BBConnect WM5. All seems good. However, my area doesn't have 3G so I don't know how it performs in that aspect.

not worth a change, really
I had original 1.42 for a while. it worked great- got 3g in toronto (even had it in Barrie for a day during testing.)
wifi was good, and battery life was as good as expected.
I'm currently running 1.47, and I don't really notice that much of a difference. 3g seems faster, and WiFi definitely is, but I also flashed a new Rom and updated the wifi drivers too. MMS also works, but to be fair, I never tried it before.
In all, not a huge difference.
Be sure to use Lurch's cab file for setting the Rogers APN/MMS setup info- it's flawless.

ChiGGz said:
I haven't experienced any problems with 1.40, 1.41 or 1.43
But I was just wondering which do you all prefer?
Please state subscriber.
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I'm using 1.41.00.10 on Rogers network.
I use voice and data (BB Connect + VPN).
No problems.

1.43 on all 5 of our Hermes phones since it's release and had no problems in Toronto.
We use them heavily with Data and since we're in TO we get 3G signals in most places - and I'm very impressed with battery life.
I have experienced problems with 1.46 and 1.47 not being able to receive calls while the device is active, but only a handful of others on this forum have reported the same problems, so maybe I just got 5 bad in a row.

using 1.41 in Montreal (voice only, we know how much data cost in Canada), good reception, battery last long.

I am using 1.47 after usimg 1.43. anyone else think it eays the battery a lot quicker?.
Matt

I am in the GTA and have been using 1.43 since it was released with no issues with voice or data. I was going to switch to 1.47 until I read Aoshi_'s post....now I am debating it... .

SoftBank X01HT
I am using original Radio ROM (1.16.00.00) still did not flashed it...i just received the handset yesterday. So my question is: Why i can't get EDGE? I get only GPRS (since there is no 3G HSDPA here) I know we got EDGE coverage here and the specifications of the phone says EDGE class 10, Please would you tell me if i am not using the good radio version?
Answer: not sure, maybe it's from the ROM and it do not displays "E" even on EDGE network. Speed test proof: On Rogers GPRS/EDGE : 100 kilobits/sec (It's EDGE even indicates "G")

1.51.00.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323957
*Fido/Roger
**so far been using 2 days
Battery seems to drain quick compared to 1.38. Very notible once using GPRS/Edge/HSPDA [gprs data seems quicker]
Signal strength is odd. Cell phone shows full strength Tytn shows 2 bars.
- Tytn shows no signal (cell phone shows full) yet when I make a call it is ok
Dropped calls: 2 (in a good area for reception)

1.51.00.10
o Battery life is short
o Missed calls
o gprs - no issues - seemed quick
Swapped to 1.43.00.00
o Battery life about the same as 1.38.00.00
o No missed calls yet - no signal drops
o GPRS seems frozen at times - required to turn off/flightmode and reactivate.

GSM Signal weak in Prophet after update. Pls help.....

I had purchased a second hand o2 xda neo. It had wm 5 on it . I updates it with wm 6.1 roms available here.I find that the gsm reception is very poor inside my home.I dont know whether this happened after the update. In my office it is quite good. Even when I am outside i have no problem. Only in my home the signal is very weak. can this be corrected by some registry tweaks or some software. or is it a hardware problem. and if so can i get it repaired. pls help...

what rom are you using and what radio was recommended for use with it. Sounds like a radio issue to me but plz tell me rom and radio. you can experiment using different radios found on the wiki to see whatworks best.
you can flash different radios without loosing data on the device.

I have tried with 2.19, 2.47, 2.69 roms. but no effect. I am trying today 2.07 let me see if that helps. Does IPL/SPL effect the singnal strength?

mmm it might be just one of those things, in that there is interferance within your house (my house is made from granite so reception is very poor), if recpetion is good elsewhere it is unlikely to be radio.
Is there 3G network there? The quality of service on 3G can be unpredictable at best of times.
Signal is not effected by IPL/SPL to my knowledge.

The results of 2.07.20 radio rom. It shows good signal but i feel that it does not update it when the signal is poor. In my office signal is good. So it showed full strength. I went home. There too it showed full strength. when i did soft rest to clear my doubt the signal was poor as in previous roms. Do you think that the antenna has some problem. Can it be replaced. i find an opening above the mirror( near the camers lens) for car antenna. Can this help? if so how?. 3G network is not available in my country(INDIA)

hey,
i think u might have to accept that the signal is just crap in your house... a bummer i know, but if youve tried various radios and signal is good elsewhere, it cant be the internal ariel.
have u tried flashing another rom, more recent build?
Not sure it will help but you never know... at the end of the day, signal is never constant in any one place.

But friend. The signal is good in other phones. If the signal is crap then it should affect other phones too.

I should have also said that the signal is never constant betwenn too phones in the same place. It depends on antenna hardware and the location of it, like signal is reduced whislt making a call if you place your hand and fingers in the wrong place.
I think it unlikely that is a hardware issue if your signal is fine in other areas. Sorry my friend i dont know what else to suggest having tried radios and roms.
The prophet is getting a little long in the tooth now, so be time for an update?

Problems with Radio Reception

hey,
i've changed my network provider a few days ago. before the change and also now i'm using the Duttys Topaz WM6.5 Leo R0 WWE rom.
since i've changed the provider, i have problems with my radio reception. when i'm inside a building i mostly do not have any radio reception at all.
i've also tried another radio version and at the moment i've installed the original htc rom. still the situation is unimproved.
do you know why?
thanks for ur answers!

If you have changed provider...and your phone is the same, suddenly your network reception falls down.... then it's obvious what is causing the problem I suppose. Your operator doesn't have a proper coverage.

Yup, It's almost certainly your network
You've done all that you can to diagnose the issue you have; Essentially, you've got poor coverage compared to your old provider.
I'd contact them soon (today, if possible) and make them aware of the situation. If you're not happy, you can either spend money on a range extender (you may not be able to install these in your workplace), or change provider back. Call them sooner rather than later, though. They may have a small time period (in the UK called a "Cooling Off" period) before contracts become binding, allowing you to test services and make up your mind before you're tied in to the contract.

Fedex_cain said:
hey,
i've changed my network provider a few days ago. before the change and also now i'm using the Duttys Topaz WM6.5 Leo R0 WWE rom.
since i've changed the provider, i have problems with my radio reception. when i'm inside a building i mostly do not have any radio reception at all.
i've also tried another radio version and at the moment i've installed the original htc rom. still the situation is unimproved.
do you know why?
thanks for ur answers!
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Did you test in the same building with other phones? Unfortunately, it seems that the diamond 2 don't receive in areas with low signal ...

luigug said:
Did you test in the same building with other phones? Unfortunately, it seems that the diamond 2 don't receive in areas with low signal ...
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yes I did. my friends, who have the same provider, have a really high reception whereas I have none. so it can't be the coverage of the provider..
I don't know what to do :/

If it is not due to the hardware, HTC could solve the problem with a forthcoming version of radio or Rom.
I hope that this solution will be implemented with the next official ROM WM 6.5!

Hi
If others have good reception and yours is none with the same providers something is wrong somewhere,the HTC Touch Diamond 2 isn't that bad for reception, I've found quite good in very marginal areas.
You need to check your phone isn't set to just 3G, but Auto. It might be you have no 3G coverage but your phone is set not to switch to 2G which other phones you are comparing against are using.
To check this go to settings and click the Communications option, scroll down to Band and then make sure the settings are Auto and Auto. Has that helped.
Regards
Phil

Radio Problems ?

Hi,
I have my legend from 3 week s now, and very pleased with it... I has a Hero before and happy to play now with Android 2.1... However... I'm a little bit disapointed with the quality of my network signal nd some other bug that I hadn't on my hero...
Problems...
Wifi signal and Network GSM signal often bad or lower quality than previously... Is that normal and know for future dev...
Browser often doesn't load the Internet page when signal is not good and stop working or show the error loading message, and even if my signal is ok...
So basically my radio version is...
47.26.35.04U_7.05.35.26L
2.6.29-9a3026a7
Build 1.23.405.1 CL139791
Can you help me, is a new rom or radio planned for soon...
thx
Buzz

Buzz
did you compare the performance of your Legend with another phone?
my Legend is underperforming compare to my HTC Cruise, but I'm using H3G here in Italy, running only on 3G network.
Sent from my HTC Legend using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

No i do not compare I juste have problem qith signal quality at all... And yes compared to my hero, it is worst...

Same here, bad WiFi or Edge/3G performance compared with my iPhone 3GS or some other phones I've tested (at the exact same location).
Sent from my HTC Legend using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

I haven't tested my Legend side-by-side with other phones, but I have an overall feeling that my old HTC Magic was more stable wrt GSM/3G networking.
The main problem for me is that quite often Legend cannot keep connections/phone calls alive when switching between EDGE and 3G networks. I've never had such problems with Magic (on the same operator, Swisscom in my case).
I'm not sure if this happens because of weaker reception, a bug in the Legend's radio, or some sort of incompatibility with my operator's network. (The old Magic was Swisscom-branded, so maybe it was tweaked for Swisscom in some way).

same here
I can confirm radio is generally weak with Legend. It loses GSM/3G connection completely in places where my previous phones (HTC Snap & Magic) were showing weak signal but were still holding connection. Same goes with Wi Fi unfortunately. My conclusion: Legend's radio is weaker compared to other phones. Don't get me wrong - you may never experience any problems if GSM/3G/Wi Fi signal is strong in your areas of inhabbitance. But in my case (work phone - so got to be reachable 24/7) it looks like Legend has Failed.

I've had a magic, hero and nexus one before the legend, and for me the legend seems weaker than hero/magic (which are the same in my experience) but MUCH better than the nexs one.#
Overall the legend has been ok though, the only annoying thing I've experienced is when I go into a no signal area (e.g. underground) and come back, it sometimes doesn't pick up a signal again and stays on no network until I switch off and on. Annoying if it's in your pocket and you've not noticed for a while...

Bad Wifi
I've had the Legend for 2 days now and I'm experiencing severe problems with radio.
Specifically wifi:
* Signal on Legend is VERY low compared to Hero
* I'm also loosing connection all the time, where my Hero was extremely stable
* Problem is worse when I'm using my laptop's wifi at the same time
- When laptop is turned off, wifi is somewhat stable on the Legend, when I'm surfing the web on my laptop AND using wifi on the Legend, I seem to have problems with both. I loose connection on the Legend and wifi on laptop is very slow. When Legend wifi is off, I have no problem whatsoever.
* I sometimes have problems accessing Market, Browser and other apps that require net access.
* Switching between wifi and 3G/Edge seems slow and doesn't always work
I AM comparing the Hero and Legend at the same time. I have no problem with Hero and Laptop running at the same time, only Legend and laptop!
Edit: I now about "early adopter syndrome" where they release something before it's finished. BUT this really isn't a new product in that respect, it's supposed to be an improvement. I did not get the Legend for this hassle. If it persists and nothing is gained from my email to HTC, I'm returning it as a defect product.

Can someone expert here give us more info about this and future dev or problem source ? As for me Even if I like the legend I can not understand how they can launch a device giving lower result that it's previous version : the htc hero... ???

Sooooo, Hero radio is ok and get's good signal strength........Hero is made of plastic. Legend radio is weak, drops connection a lot....Legend is made of aluminum. Is it possible that we will never get good reception on the Legend, that it's not a bug, but a weakness with the metal used. Like The first iPhone......and why they are doing glass/ceramic back in the 4G iPhone....
Just asking...I have the Legend as well if you think I'm dissing the Legend here.

nexus one is plastic and from my experience has considerably worse signal strength

The problem for me is more on the wifi reception even if signal is 3/4 I experience a lot of time error in the internet browser, and it become unusefull...
I juste ahad a reply from the HTC support and SO PLEASE SEND THEM A REQUEST IF YOU EXPERIENCE THE SAME PROBLEM as they told me not too much people 've reported actually this problem so they can not sent the development to the dev team...
"New Response
Dear Thank you for your enquiry about htc legend. We regret but as far as we are concern there is not known issue on htc legend regarding the radio and wifi. Once we have a big number of customers with a similar case then we will report this issue to our developers in order to create an update, but currently we do not have enough of examples. If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you. Best regards, Ivona HTC customer support team HTC Corp. Global Service Division http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
"

i have not had any reception issues with my legend. however the fm radio is terrible lol

noobdeagle said:
i have not had any reception issues with my legend. however the fm radio is terrible lol
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FM Radio depends on your headphones/earphones since it uses that wire as an antenna.
I don't have anything to compare against, though I am pretty disappointed with the wifi reception... Does it use the ring around the camera lens as the antenna?

Has anyone tried WiFi Fixer?

I've been told that the Legend has trouble with Dlink routers. I have a Dlink 825 and my Hero had no trouble with this router. But with the Legend, I'm experiencing dropped signals and interference with my Laptop connection when the Legend is connected as well. My friend then replaced the same router with a Zyxel one and has full coverage.

Im having the same issues..even when i have strong wifi signal, it often cannot connect to anything and I have to turn wifi off and on. (netgear router)
I also have issues with 3G, the signal is all over the place...when other phones have a good signal, sometimes when i come from standby the signal is gone completely (showing a 'x' on the signal bar), this is in the middle of the city with strong signal from all other phones!
I have turned off 3G and using only GSM and have not had problems since.

stanace said:
FM Radio depends on your headphones/earphones since it uses that wire as an antenna.
I don't have anything to compare against, though I am pretty disappointed with the wifi reception... Does it use the ring around the camera lens as the antenna?
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well compared to my cowon S9 radio which is perfect the legend is useless. yes i know that its related to the headphones but if a pair of Q-Jays isnt good enough than i dont know what is
as for the internal recievers i have started to have a problem with the mobile data connection. even in a strong location it just doesnt recieve im betting its a software issue tho cause it reads full strength and still does it sometimes a reset of the phone makes it work again but it will randomly cut off after its been on for a while

No problems with wi-fi here (whereas my TP2 sometimes struggles to initially connect) but the GSM radio performance is below what my TP2 gets in the same location. GPRS is possible however. Don't have 3G signal here.
Not sure whether this indicates a big problem as have only had Legend for 1 day but have seen "emergency calls only" quite a few times It kinda comes and goes.
Having said that, the TP2 was a bit flakey here (all mobile network signals aren't great here at home) until the 4.xx.xx.91 radio ROM upgrade, now it's better. (started on 3.something, whatever Voda initially released the 6.1 TP2 with ... I forget tbh)
Hopefully we will see a radio upgrade.

paradoxni said:
Im having the same issues..even when i have strong wifi signal, it often cannot connect to anything and I have to turn wifi off and on. (netgear router)
I also have issues with 3G, the signal is all over the place...when other phones have a good signal, sometimes when i come from standby the signal is gone completely (showing a 'x' on the signal bar), this is in the middle of the city with strong signal from all other phones!
I have turned off 3G and using only GSM and have not had problems since.
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I have exactly the same problem on both wifi and 3G, it deconnect even if signal is ok... and I Have to turn it off and turn it on... Can a specialist confirm this and tell me if the problem come from our phone, the radio firmware or the mattalic case of the legend ???
THX