Problem with clock (DST?) - Touch HD General

Since I bought my HD a couple of weeks ago each time I sync it with my PC the time goes back an hour. I'm in GMT, so I'm guessing it's to do with daylight saving time, but there's no option to change it.
For now I've just disabled autoupdate, but obviously it would be better if it would update, and even with this the time stamp on texts I recieve are an hour behind.
Only thing I've thought of is changing to GMT+1, haven't tried this yet for some reason, guess I'll do that now
Anyone had this problem/know how to fix it? Cheers

I had a similar problem. After deactivation of the time synch in the phone settings it was solved.

mirandolo said:
I had a similar problem. After deactivation of the time synch in the phone settings it was solved.
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As I said I've done that, but the time stamps on texts are still an hour behind, and obviously it would be better if it actually would update rather then having to scrub round it.

Tyrrell9 said:
Since I bought my HD a couple of weeks ago each time I sync it with my PC the time goes back an hour. I'm in GMT, so I'm guessing it's to do with daylight saving time, but there's no option to change it.
For now I've just disabled autoupdate, but obviously it would be better if it would update, and even with this the time stamp on texts I recieve are an hour behind.
Only thing I've thought of is changing to GMT+1, haven't tried this yet for some reason, guess I'll do that now
Anyone had this problem/know how to fix it? Cheers
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Just to Clarify your PC is set to GMT ?
My PC and Phone are set to the identical timezone (london NOT GMT)
and I don't seem to have your problem

garyjmobey said:
Just to Clarify your PC is set to GMT ?
My PC and Phone are set to the identical timezone (london NOT GMT)
and I don't seem to have your problem
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Yes, set to GMT Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Kind of assumed there should be a DST setting on the phone, take it it's not meant to be there?

Tyrrell9 said:
Yes, set to GMT Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Kind of assumed there should be a DST setting on the phone, take it it's not meant to be there?
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my hd set to GMT Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
and my laptop too (but with dst ticked)
I've just done an active sync, forced tf3d to relaunch and my time is still ok
Wierd....

Edit: Scrap that, it's an hour behind again any more suggestions?
Cheers for the help guys

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Spontaneous Time Zone Changes

I can't seem to reason why the device spontaneously changes from my time zone (EST) to the Atlantic Time Zone. All settings have been checked on both the computer the 8525 is synced with and the device itself. Any suggestions?
clarksdv2 said:
I can't seem to reason why the device spontaneously changes from my time zone (EST) to the Atlantic Time Zone. All settings have been checked on both the computer the 8525 is synced with and the device itself. Any suggestions?
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Have you seen these?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284882&highlight=time+zone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282856&highlight=time+zone
Mike
Thanks though I did check previous threads
The advice was good however I don't have an option in my clock settings to disable the automatic time update. This AST from EST change also occurs when I reset the device. Do I have another recourse to force the device to remain in current settings?
clarksdv2 said:
The advice was good however I don't have an option in my clock settings to disable the automatic time update. This AST from EST change also occurs when I reset the device. Do I have another recourse to force the device to remain in current settings?
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This is more of a bump than anything else but I'll ask the following question (not because I know an answer but someone else might):
When you say time changes spontaneously I presume you mean - not only when on Active Sync i.e. that the time is coming from your network??
Mike
Clarification
Clarification two events cause the time zone shift from EST to AST:
1. Consistently with activesync, but not 100% of the time. The time zone will shift only sliding to AST, so 7am EST becomes 8am AST.
2. On soft reset the time value remains the same and time zone shifts, so 7am EST becomes 7am AST.
I don't think this is a provider time update issue rather a software issue.
Moving it to the head of line
Thanks for any help.
I can one up your problem with my 8525. At least daily, my phone spontaneously changes forward 3 hours. But the time zone remains at EST. I don't have to use activesync or anything, it will just change when it feels like it. Occasionally, it backs up 1 hour but it always does one or the other. This has been happening since I got it in Nov 2006. Of course cingular offers no help at all but to say it's a daylight savings time problem. Incidentally my smartphone before this (audiovox smt5600) did the same thing, and occassionally changed the current date to my sister's birthday 2 years before current year---and NO, I didn't forget her birthday! Any ideas at all???

Even after Sync : Computer clock is 1:00 but Phone clock is 2:00 !!! Why ?

everytime i sync my phone with pc , clock goes 1 hour passed of my pc's clock
computer clock : 1:00 --> Phone clock : 2:00
i had seen some thread about this problem but i hadnt this problem so i didnt read them ...
what should i do ?!
manuelcalavera said:
everytime i sync my phone with pc , clock goes 1 hour passed of my pc's clock
computer clock : 1:00 --> Phone clock : 2:00
i had seen some thread about this problem but i hadnt this problem so i didnt read them ...
what should i do ?!
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Did you run the DST patch for your PC as well as your PPC? Not sure if that is the issue, but it's worth a try. Also, is your time zone set correctly?
i dont know what is DST and yes time zone is ok , but i had not this problem , im using it about 1 year , i just changed my rom and this problem occured !
so if there is a patch , it could be useful
hmmm regional settings?
manuelcalavera said:
i dont know what is DST and yes time zone is ok , but i had not this problem , im using it about 1 year , i just changed my rom and this problem occured !
so if there is a patch , it could be useful
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Rubacava may not have 'Day-light Saving Time' (DST), but in the US, it has just been introduce this year, where you have 1 hour (earlier) difference. From what it seems, your PC is using DST and your phone is not. The patch may have been automatically installed during WinXP auto-update / ActiveSync update, hence you are not aware of it. As for the PPC, you need to DIY.
hanmin said:
Rubacava may not have 'Day-light Saving Time' (DST), but in the US, it has just been introduce this year, where you have 1 hour (earlier) difference. From what it seems, your PC is using DST and your phone is not. The patch may have been automatically installed during WinXP auto-update / ActiveSync update, hence you are not aware of it. As for the PPC, you need to DIY.
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exactly , cuz these times my pc got some serious updates :s !
so whats DIY ?
what should i do exactly ?
The DST patch shouldn't matter right now whether he/she has it or not. The only thing it did was change when daylight savings time started since it started a few weeks earlier this year than it has in the past. Since even on the old DST schedule we would still be in DST right now it shouldn't make any difference. I'm thinking that you just don't have your settings set right in your regional settings, you seem to have it set to whatever time zone it is that would be an hour ahead of your regular time.
I agree with xeno1. My HTC 8125 also goes 1 ahead ahead of my PC. Regional settings, GMT time OK, Disabled DST box, etc. I even had the check PC time" enabled in AS. The easiest "solution" is to set your PPC one ahead. i.e. I am in Puerto Rico, which is -4 GMT or also knows as AST. I set the PPC to -5 GMT and everything OK now. Sloppy, yes, but effective.
Anybody come up with a better "solution' please advise.

Touch HD Activesync Timezone bug?

Hi,
I've just bought a new Touch HD. Yesterday I synced with my work PC and all went well. I then took it hone and created a partnership there too. The idea is that all 3 should keep the same data. After a lengthy wait the sync completed (I haven't checked how successfully), however I've noticed an debilitating issue. When I connect to activesync (including work) the time on the THD is set 1 hour forward. We are not in a DST zone (Brisbane +10:00) and I can't find any settings to allow me to manually turn it on or off if I wanted to. The problem is that when my calendar items are synced they are also 'converted' to the new times which are 1 hour forward. Very frustrating and annoying.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jason
Same happens to me (GMT+1) but without a pattern: only now and then. And obviously, the calendar is screwed up: bithdays (that are whole day appointments) are spread across two days. Tried disabling the auto DST, but no joy: now and then it still happens
The problem seems to be in the firmware itself. Hacking the registry only works until the next power-off/soft reset.
Need somebody to cook the switch out of the ROM.
I'm in your same boat buddy. Set your timezone as Vladivostok. It's the same time as Brisbane and it seems to have no bugs with its lack of DST.
In Active Sync try disabling the "Sync Time when connected" option.
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Does my TimeSyncTZ App Help? (Link in Sig)
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Have you tried some of the steps in this Link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/daylight-savings-update.mspx
Thanks
Dave
Thanks for the tips, Dave: cool app, TimeSyncTZ. Only thing i notice, it cannot send time query via ActiveSync connection, only wifi or phone. Or i miss something?
About the bug, i'm not the best one to test, since as said it happens only every now and then. We'll see
bbonzz said:
Thanks for the tips, Dave: cool app, TimeSyncTZ. Only thing i notice, it cannot send time query via ActiveSync connection, only wifi or phone. Or i miss something?
About the bug, i'm not the best one to test, since as said it happens only every now and then. We'll see
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I'll try and look into the AS bug for you. I'm having connection issues with another guy and that is my main focus at the moment.
Dave
Thanks Dave; anyway not a big problem: when i want to sync time, i can simply use wifi (with "about the bug" i meant the appointments shift one, not the TimeSync AS problem)
bbonzz said:
Thanks Dave; anyway not a big problem: when i want to sync time, i can simply use wifi (with "about the bug" i meant the appointments shift one, not the TimeSync AS problem)
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Thats Ok, so long as you know I meant I'm looking at the bug with my connection code, not with the Windows Time Zone problem
Dave
I have the same issue - but changing the timezone to Vladivodstok (GMT+10) does correct the time on the phone, and the appointments (-1 hour) as well. When you update the timezone, the time and appointments are instantly corrected, so this must mean there is a 'bug' in the timezone definition for Brisbane (GMT+10). I have emailed HTC about this.
Thanks fredskis!
Cheers,
Walter
this bug happens with every timezone. Im afraid htc can not help. This is a problem between AS and MSoutlook when you sync with more that 1PC SINCE YEARS !!! If this happens on your Pc I give you a good advice: dont waste time to try the solutions offered by MS (delete pim in Outlook, ect.) . You will have no permanent succsess. So sync apointments only with 1 Pc and you can trust that the displayed apointments are correct and not messed up.
Same Problem !
Just purchased HTC Touch HD - Same problem encountered. arrrr ! I'm in Brisbane too. I have downloaded TZedit.exe from Microsoft. I intend editing the Vladivostic zone on the P.C. and try that. I'm convinced the problem is with the HTC time zone handleing, though, not the P.C. This HD is replacing a Jas Jam (Also HTC) and it didn't exhibit the problem. The problem can be identified by the going to "Visiting City" in the Clock tab. If you set Home as "Brisbane" and visiting as "Sydney" and then change the time in Brisbane, you'll notice the Sydney time (dim) EXACTLY tracks the Brisbane time. This should not happen. There should be a tracking difference of one hour. The Jas Jam worked perfectly in this way. I'm not holding my breath on HTC to involve themselves with this. What we need is a TZedit program for a PDA, or at least for a HTC Touch HD.
Same Problem but slightly different
Hi - I don't know what else to do - have spent hours of searching and reading support forums etc and cannot find any answers to this one.
My *NEW* HTC Touch HD (Telstra 8285 Model) has an even bigger problem..
I am only able to set the Home time zone as "Sydney"
I can change this to whatever city I like - even Brisbane - however after each "Soft" reboot it reverts back to "Sydney"
Is this an issue with HTC or with Telstra or with Windows OS.
Have tried all three and each blame each others software/hardware for the fault.
Anyone out there that can help me move from "Sydney" back to my hometown of "Brisbane" - it is there to view so I can only asume it should work.
Thank you in advance.
Time zone changing
I live in Belgium Time zone set to Paris, Madrid GMT + 1.
Every so often for no reason that I can detect the time zone changes to Windhoek, I've tried multiple active sync's with 2 machines, soft-resets but can't make it happen, but then suddenly without doing anything special the timezone will change. Does anybody have any ideas about this?

Phone keeps changing time zones

Hi all, my TMOUS HD2 randomly changes time zones from EST to PST at least 2-3 times a week on its own when I have "my location" picked as a time. Anyone else have this problem? I flashed to the new T-mo ROM about 3 months ago...Tj
My device and a friend's device is having the same issue. This is irrelevant to the ROM as I am running a Artemis after the 3.14 and my friend is on 1.48
mine just recently started doing that..keeps putting me in the GMT -5 (Indiana) time zone instead of the -4 (Atlantic) I've had to change it like 3 times in one day. Never had a problem with this b4. Wonder if it has anything to do with the ThrottleLauncher WP7 theme i installed on it the other night..because that time setting seems to be changing to.
my uk hd2 keeps doing this over the last week or so, randomly jumping ahead timezones. it's persisted accross multiple energy roms and a stock rom.
weird
TrekkerJmm said:
Hi all, my TMOUS HD2 randomly changes time zones from EST to PST at least 2-3 times a week on its own when I have "my location" picked as a time. Anyone else have this problem? I flashed to the new T-mo ROM about 3 months ago...Tj
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my HD2 was doing this but only when i would go home to visit in Richmond TX. When i would update weather manually it would switch to eastern time zone. I think this is because the phone thinks I am in Richmond VA so it switches to Eastern time. I havent found a viable fix for this but its not really an issue.
IS there a chance you are using your phone in a city or town that has a common name in another state? this might be the reason. While riding my motorcycle a while back i stopped in London Arkansas and my phone thought I was in London UK.
fusion06 said:
mine just recently started doing that..keeps putting me in the GMT -5 (Indiana) time zone instead of the -4 (Atlantic) I've had to change it like 3 times in one day. Never had a problem with this b4. Wonder if it has anything to do with the ThrottleLauncher WP7 theme i installed on it the other night..because that time setting seems to be changing to.
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same Indiana time zone default issue. I HAVE THE LATEST 3.14 original ROM with c00kie's home tab.
Same here with the original ROM installed. I live in GMT+1 timezone and it sets my time one hour ahead at least 5x a day. Pretty annoying.
Hmmm... wondering if this issue has no fix, or if its not wide spread enough... It DEF has something to do with CUSTOM roms, because both me and my wifes HD2 worked like champs for a month straight out of the box, with location services and the whole nine with out ANY problems, I flashed ChuckyROM and here it is... No matter how many times i change the timezone, no matter how many soft resets, no matter how many ROMS flashed, the time keeps jumping... sometimes one hour, sometimes 2, it onlys corrects when i DISABLE all time syncs and locations... WHICH SUCKS and shouldn't be the fix... ANY HELP would be appreciated , THANKS IN ADVANCE
Hi folks!
Pls. check & use this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9378641&postcount=1
It should fix all time zone issuse... Just give me a feedback!
Regards,
MrT69
That happened to me a long time ago. And I remember I fixed it either by checking/unchecking something on the Windows Mobile Device Center (or ActiveSync), something in the sort of NOT synchronizing Outlook items (no problem with me because I never use that anyway; I use MyPhone instead).
think i have a fix
disable the option in settings - menu - all settings - personal - phone - gsm/umys services - time synch
you can leave the option in settings - data services - internet time sync enabled.
not sure why its changed, i have stock everything....
chris
I know the problem
Hello,
I know this problem.
And I think I know the reason for this "acting out".
It started for my HD2 at the day of the
DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME change.
I believe the makers of that phone forgot to install
a daylight savings option.
It would be great, if someone could make a clock that will do that,
or that will verify the time with a different time service,
taking into account daylight savings time (winter/summertime).
Tom
kingcoyle said:
It DEF has something to do with CUSTOM roms
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Nope. Its a problem for org ROMs also. It probably has somting to do with the Internet-provider or the providers of weather-app etc.
In my case the "my lokation" in the weather-app is showing wrong place. This error appeared at the same time as the clock-problem.

[Q] time keep changing to incorect hours

HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
alexandros0124 said:
HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
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I had the same problem, I went to France the past 2 days and every now and then the time on my phone changed, even when the option to auto sync time is set to false. I Live in Belgium so France is still the same GMT +1.
Try upgrading to the newest stock ROM. I saw you still run 1.07.x, but there is already a version 1.36.x.
It's not the ROM. Mine has been doing it ever since we went to daylight saving in the UK. Jumping forward an hour every day or so.
tryied to upgrade but i got the error 294 invalid vender
anyway i opened a case with HTC
but i thing my problem is due to daylight saving
but not so sure because at the same time i was in Greece wich is also diferent time zone
Read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824707
Does anyone know if a hard reset fixes the problem?
Maybe, but also check the values of:
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
and
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\NetworkTimeSync
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Maybe, but also check the values of:
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
and
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\NetworkTimeSync
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Is that the same as enabling/disabling the automatic time in the phone options?
BTW what value should be in those entries? Thanks
Try to set both of them to "0", soft reset, set the correct time and time zone through settings and check if the problem still exists.
Doesn't work. As soon as I activate the automatic time, it increases 1 hour
The automatic hour must be deactivated.
alexandros0124 said:
HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
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This is the process to de-activate auto time update.
Go to:
Settings> Menu> All Settings> Personal> Phone> (search for) GSM/UMTS Services> Time Synchronization (second last option in list)> get settings. Un-check "automatic change time zone..."> Done
now the time will not update automatically.
That's in post #6.
fighter7139 said:
The automatic hour must be deactivated.
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I knew that, that's how I solved it long time ago, but what I'm trying to do is to make the automatic time work again, since I find it quite useful
Useful of what?
When traveling for example. Thanks for the tip anyway
i followed the instructions from NitroNitrous old thread where you disable the updates.
(very well hidden settings).
Settings/Menu/All Settings\Personal\Phone\GSM/UMTS Services and then scroll down and you'll see "Time Synchronization". Tap there and then "Get Settings".
thanks NitroNitrous
I have aslo an open case with HTC as soon i will get update i willl pass over
One other guess is that the provider has incorect setting. could be that the case ?
alexandros0124 said:
...One other guess is that the provider has incorect setting. could be that the case ?
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I thought about that, since it happened when they changed the time for the daylight saving thing, but it's hard to believe that many providers in different parts of the world have made the same mistake
nah! it's clearly a bug, something like network is sending the correct hour but the phone is applying by always adding daylight time saving again...
NitroNitrous said:
When traveling for example. Thanks for the tip anyway
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That's why there are two choices for time zone, under "Clock & Alarms".

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