Spontaneous Time Zone Changes - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I can't seem to reason why the device spontaneously changes from my time zone (EST) to the Atlantic Time Zone. All settings have been checked on both the computer the 8525 is synced with and the device itself. Any suggestions?

clarksdv2 said:
I can't seem to reason why the device spontaneously changes from my time zone (EST) to the Atlantic Time Zone. All settings have been checked on both the computer the 8525 is synced with and the device itself. Any suggestions?
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Have you seen these?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284882&highlight=time+zone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282856&highlight=time+zone
Mike

Thanks though I did check previous threads
The advice was good however I don't have an option in my clock settings to disable the automatic time update. This AST from EST change also occurs when I reset the device. Do I have another recourse to force the device to remain in current settings?

clarksdv2 said:
The advice was good however I don't have an option in my clock settings to disable the automatic time update. This AST from EST change also occurs when I reset the device. Do I have another recourse to force the device to remain in current settings?
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This is more of a bump than anything else but I'll ask the following question (not because I know an answer but someone else might):
When you say time changes spontaneously I presume you mean - not only when on Active Sync i.e. that the time is coming from your network??
Mike

Clarification
Clarification two events cause the time zone shift from EST to AST:
1. Consistently with activesync, but not 100% of the time. The time zone will shift only sliding to AST, so 7am EST becomes 8am AST.
2. On soft reset the time value remains the same and time zone shifts, so 7am EST becomes 7am AST.
I don't think this is a provider time update issue rather a software issue.

Moving it to the head of line
Thanks for any help.

I can one up your problem with my 8525. At least daily, my phone spontaneously changes forward 3 hours. But the time zone remains at EST. I don't have to use activesync or anything, it will just change when it feels like it. Occasionally, it backs up 1 hour but it always does one or the other. This has been happening since I got it in Nov 2006. Of course cingular offers no help at all but to say it's a daylight savings time problem. Incidentally my smartphone before this (audiovox smt5600) did the same thing, and occassionally changed the current date to my sister's birthday 2 years before current year---and NO, I didn't forget her birthday! Any ideas at all???

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8525 Time changing when connected to Computer

This does not always happen when I connect my 8525 but it seems to jump 15 and a half hours into the future. this is really a pain in the butt and seems to have only statrted happening since I landed in Canada in an Eastern time zone. ( normally reside in Texas cst time )
Has any experienced this? I have SBP plus loaded running weather and time right now. Only other program is World Mate Pro. Nothing else on the device.
Hi,
I'm in Aus and have an imate JasJam and some of us over here were having the same troubles.
What we found was the time was being updated automatically over the phone network to be in sync with the providers time, but it also looks at the time zone. In Victoria, Aus, I kept having a problem with my clock being an hour out, and it ended up being that the network was sending the wrong time zone information.
To fix this, we opened up the phone dialer and selcted menu, options.If you scroll to the right you'll see the tab time zones, and uncheck the "Automatic change time zone and clock"
Then change your timezone back to what you want and set the time to what it needs to be, soft reset and hopefully everything will be ok.
Brad
I did what you said and reset my time back to my home city in cst. Since I am still in an est time zone when I turned the phone back on it automatically went to the est time zone to the correct time and did not jump to 15 hours into the future. I am ok with this since the phone has never moved to the correct time zone based on the network before which I like. As long as it does not do the crazy 15 hour jump I am ok. I will hook it up to sync a few times today and see what happens.
did you try to untick the synchronize time of device with pc or something in the options under tools tab of microsoft active sync?
Time Sync Issue Here - Help
I'm having a similar problem. Sometimes when connected to sync computer the timezone changes from EST to AST, but I have no settings on either device to cause this.
Help!!! Time Out of Sync
I have an HTC branded version of the TyTn. Every time I plug it in and try to sync the time goes 1 hour back and my future appointments move. I tried looking for the "time zones" tab previously reffered to and apparently my phone doesnt have such a tab. Any sugestions?

Touch HD Activesync Timezone bug?

Hi,
I've just bought a new Touch HD. Yesterday I synced with my work PC and all went well. I then took it hone and created a partnership there too. The idea is that all 3 should keep the same data. After a lengthy wait the sync completed (I haven't checked how successfully), however I've noticed an debilitating issue. When I connect to activesync (including work) the time on the THD is set 1 hour forward. We are not in a DST zone (Brisbane +10:00) and I can't find any settings to allow me to manually turn it on or off if I wanted to. The problem is that when my calendar items are synced they are also 'converted' to the new times which are 1 hour forward. Very frustrating and annoying.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jason
Same happens to me (GMT+1) but without a pattern: only now and then. And obviously, the calendar is screwed up: bithdays (that are whole day appointments) are spread across two days. Tried disabling the auto DST, but no joy: now and then it still happens
The problem seems to be in the firmware itself. Hacking the registry only works until the next power-off/soft reset.
Need somebody to cook the switch out of the ROM.
I'm in your same boat buddy. Set your timezone as Vladivostok. It's the same time as Brisbane and it seems to have no bugs with its lack of DST.
In Active Sync try disabling the "Sync Time when connected" option.
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Does my TimeSyncTZ App Help? (Link in Sig)
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Have you tried some of the steps in this Link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/daylight-savings-update.mspx
Thanks
Dave
Thanks for the tips, Dave: cool app, TimeSyncTZ. Only thing i notice, it cannot send time query via ActiveSync connection, only wifi or phone. Or i miss something?
About the bug, i'm not the best one to test, since as said it happens only every now and then. We'll see
bbonzz said:
Thanks for the tips, Dave: cool app, TimeSyncTZ. Only thing i notice, it cannot send time query via ActiveSync connection, only wifi or phone. Or i miss something?
About the bug, i'm not the best one to test, since as said it happens only every now and then. We'll see
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I'll try and look into the AS bug for you. I'm having connection issues with another guy and that is my main focus at the moment.
Dave
Thanks Dave; anyway not a big problem: when i want to sync time, i can simply use wifi (with "about the bug" i meant the appointments shift one, not the TimeSync AS problem)
bbonzz said:
Thanks Dave; anyway not a big problem: when i want to sync time, i can simply use wifi (with "about the bug" i meant the appointments shift one, not the TimeSync AS problem)
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Thats Ok, so long as you know I meant I'm looking at the bug with my connection code, not with the Windows Time Zone problem
Dave
I have the same issue - but changing the timezone to Vladivodstok (GMT+10) does correct the time on the phone, and the appointments (-1 hour) as well. When you update the timezone, the time and appointments are instantly corrected, so this must mean there is a 'bug' in the timezone definition for Brisbane (GMT+10). I have emailed HTC about this.
Thanks fredskis!
Cheers,
Walter
this bug happens with every timezone. Im afraid htc can not help. This is a problem between AS and MSoutlook when you sync with more that 1PC SINCE YEARS !!! If this happens on your Pc I give you a good advice: dont waste time to try the solutions offered by MS (delete pim in Outlook, ect.) . You will have no permanent succsess. So sync apointments only with 1 Pc and you can trust that the displayed apointments are correct and not messed up.
Same Problem !
Just purchased HTC Touch HD - Same problem encountered. arrrr ! I'm in Brisbane too. I have downloaded TZedit.exe from Microsoft. I intend editing the Vladivostic zone on the P.C. and try that. I'm convinced the problem is with the HTC time zone handleing, though, not the P.C. This HD is replacing a Jas Jam (Also HTC) and it didn't exhibit the problem. The problem can be identified by the going to "Visiting City" in the Clock tab. If you set Home as "Brisbane" and visiting as "Sydney" and then change the time in Brisbane, you'll notice the Sydney time (dim) EXACTLY tracks the Brisbane time. This should not happen. There should be a tracking difference of one hour. The Jas Jam worked perfectly in this way. I'm not holding my breath on HTC to involve themselves with this. What we need is a TZedit program for a PDA, or at least for a HTC Touch HD.
Same Problem but slightly different
Hi - I don't know what else to do - have spent hours of searching and reading support forums etc and cannot find any answers to this one.
My *NEW* HTC Touch HD (Telstra 8285 Model) has an even bigger problem..
I am only able to set the Home time zone as "Sydney"
I can change this to whatever city I like - even Brisbane - however after each "Soft" reboot it reverts back to "Sydney"
Is this an issue with HTC or with Telstra or with Windows OS.
Have tried all three and each blame each others software/hardware for the fault.
Anyone out there that can help me move from "Sydney" back to my hometown of "Brisbane" - it is there to view so I can only asume it should work.
Thank you in advance.
Time zone changing
I live in Belgium Time zone set to Paris, Madrid GMT + 1.
Every so often for no reason that I can detect the time zone changes to Windhoek, I've tried multiple active sync's with 2 machines, soft-resets but can't make it happen, but then suddenly without doing anything special the timezone will change. Does anybody have any ideas about this?

Problem with clock (DST?)

Since I bought my HD a couple of weeks ago each time I sync it with my PC the time goes back an hour. I'm in GMT, so I'm guessing it's to do with daylight saving time, but there's no option to change it.
For now I've just disabled autoupdate, but obviously it would be better if it would update, and even with this the time stamp on texts I recieve are an hour behind.
Only thing I've thought of is changing to GMT+1, haven't tried this yet for some reason, guess I'll do that now
Anyone had this problem/know how to fix it? Cheers
I had a similar problem. After deactivation of the time synch in the phone settings it was solved.
mirandolo said:
I had a similar problem. After deactivation of the time synch in the phone settings it was solved.
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As I said I've done that, but the time stamps on texts are still an hour behind, and obviously it would be better if it actually would update rather then having to scrub round it.
Tyrrell9 said:
Since I bought my HD a couple of weeks ago each time I sync it with my PC the time goes back an hour. I'm in GMT, so I'm guessing it's to do with daylight saving time, but there's no option to change it.
For now I've just disabled autoupdate, but obviously it would be better if it would update, and even with this the time stamp on texts I recieve are an hour behind.
Only thing I've thought of is changing to GMT+1, haven't tried this yet for some reason, guess I'll do that now
Anyone had this problem/know how to fix it? Cheers
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Just to Clarify your PC is set to GMT ?
My PC and Phone are set to the identical timezone (london NOT GMT)
and I don't seem to have your problem
garyjmobey said:
Just to Clarify your PC is set to GMT ?
My PC and Phone are set to the identical timezone (london NOT GMT)
and I don't seem to have your problem
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Yes, set to GMT Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Kind of assumed there should be a DST setting on the phone, take it it's not meant to be there?
Tyrrell9 said:
Yes, set to GMT Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Kind of assumed there should be a DST setting on the phone, take it it's not meant to be there?
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my hd set to GMT Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
and my laptop too (but with dst ticked)
I've just done an active sync, forced tf3d to relaunch and my time is still ok
Wierd....
Edit: Scrap that, it's an hour behind again any more suggestions?
Cheers for the help guys

Time Weirdness

I've recently started to have odd time related things happen on my HD2. Alarms set for 4:45, for instance, go off at 3:45 (not always; just occasionally). With my local time set to US Central Daylight Savings, times for other zones, including Eastern in the US and Central America are off by an hour (fast).
Anyone have an idea of what settings I should check?
The real oddity is that these times change from day-to-day or even during the same day. Today for instance, the times in other zones were off in the morning, but show correctly this afternoon.
Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-Bob-
Is this a custom ROM? I know I've seen several chefs posting changelogs like "Timezone issue fixed, hopefully" lately.
jdwrrzmm said:
Is this a custom ROM? I know I've seen several chefs posting changelogs like "Timezone issue fixed, hopefully" lately.
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Standard ROM. This morning all times are correct. ??? Can't figure it out.
could it be your pc is causing it? i once came across a situation where the user had chosen 'no' when his pc had asked him 'do you want to automatically adjust for summer time', and he set the pc time manually himself, , but this then sent his phone wacky because it WAS trying to auto adjust, but every time he synced it would move back an hour, and then re adjust when he restarted it (the phone), and so half the time it was an hour different than the PC.
Probably a long shot, but your post brought it to mind.
samsamuel said:
could it be your pc is causing it? i once came across a situation where the user had chosen 'no' when his pc had asked him 'do you want to automatically adjust for summer time', and he set the pc time manually himself, , but this then sent his phone wacky because it WAS trying to auto adjust, but every time he synced it would move back an hour, and then re adjust when he restarted it (the phone), and so half the time it was an hour different than the PC.
Probably a long shot, but your post brought it to mind.
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I have my PC clock set to automatically adjust for DST. So far today everything is correct. Just plain odd.
Thanks for your reply.
-Bob-
are You experimenting with android? it's my main suspect. on my device I set g-alarm for 5:00 am just to be surprised with alarm at 6:00 am. :/
today I am testing my hd2 again w/o any androboots during the day. we shall see...
just to let You know, today everything was as it should be. ... I don't like android that much anyway...

[Q] time keep changing to incorect hours

HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
alexandros0124 said:
HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
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I had the same problem, I went to France the past 2 days and every now and then the time on my phone changed, even when the option to auto sync time is set to false. I Live in Belgium so France is still the same GMT +1.
Try upgrading to the newest stock ROM. I saw you still run 1.07.x, but there is already a version 1.36.x.
It's not the ROM. Mine has been doing it ever since we went to daylight saving in the UK. Jumping forward an hour every day or so.
tryied to upgrade but i got the error 294 invalid vender
anyway i opened a case with HTC
but i thing my problem is due to daylight saving
but not so sure because at the same time i was in Greece wich is also diferent time zone
Read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824707
Does anyone know if a hard reset fixes the problem?
Maybe, but also check the values of:
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
and
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\NetworkTimeSync
fighter7139 said:
Maybe, but also check the values of:
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
and
HKLM\\Software\Microsoft\Clock\NetworkTimeSync
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Is that the same as enabling/disabling the automatic time in the phone options?
BTW what value should be in those entries? Thanks
Try to set both of them to "0", soft reset, set the correct time and time zone through settings and check if the problem still exists.
Doesn't work. As soon as I activate the automatic time, it increases 1 hour
The automatic hour must be deactivated.
alexandros0124 said:
HTC HD MINI time keep changes and shows wrong hour the hours always goes foward.
At this moment the time is 12:36PM and HTC shows 04:36 PM.
minutes,are always correct I am leaving in the netherlands and the time zone is set to PARIS MADRIT phone is disconneced from 3G (i dont use 3G) I set for test Location>location service, off and still keeps changes to wrong times.
any ideas
ROM version 1.07.401.1
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This is the process to de-activate auto time update.
Go to:
Settings> Menu> All Settings> Personal> Phone> (search for) GSM/UMTS Services> Time Synchronization (second last option in list)> get settings. Un-check "automatic change time zone..."> Done
now the time will not update automatically.
That's in post #6.
fighter7139 said:
The automatic hour must be deactivated.
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I knew that, that's how I solved it long time ago, but what I'm trying to do is to make the automatic time work again, since I find it quite useful
Useful of what?
When traveling for example. Thanks for the tip anyway
i followed the instructions from NitroNitrous old thread where you disable the updates.
(very well hidden settings).
Settings/Menu/All Settings\Personal\Phone\GSM/UMTS Services and then scroll down and you'll see "Time Synchronization". Tap there and then "Get Settings".
thanks NitroNitrous
I have aslo an open case with HTC as soon i will get update i willl pass over
One other guess is that the provider has incorect setting. could be that the case ?
alexandros0124 said:
...One other guess is that the provider has incorect setting. could be that the case ?
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I thought about that, since it happened when they changed the time for the daylight saving thing, but it's hard to believe that many providers in different parts of the world have made the same mistake
nah! it's clearly a bug, something like network is sending the correct hour but the phone is applying by always adding daylight time saving again...
NitroNitrous said:
When traveling for example. Thanks for the tip anyway
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That's why there are two choices for time zone, under "Clock & Alarms".

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