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XDAIIs wifi aaaarrrghhh - I wanna break it

into teeny weeny little pieces.
I feel so much better now!!
Anyways...I have a wireless home network up and running and would like to connet the xda to it.
I can connect to the router no probs but IE cant connect to the web. it says "the page you are looking for cannot be found".
Any ideas why I can connect to the router but not to the web?
Cheers folks - thanks

I know how you feel. There are a couple things you have to do.
First check that you have selected to connect via "work".
Then ensure that the IP address shown is in the range of 192.168.0.X

had no problems with my wifi on my home network, as ale210p said, I think it's with the way your connect via "work" or "ISP" is configured

hiya folks
thanks for coming to my rescue..hopefully i can get this thing on the road.
- in connections - advanced - select networks. both selections are set to "my work network"
- in configure network adapters - network adapters. the "my network connects me to" dropdown is selected to work.
- where can i check my ip address on the device?
Alhtough I am connected to my wireless network as that what the wireless LAN manager says?
any ideas guys?
many thanks

Is your internet provider checking the MAC address? my provider checks for the MAC address and hence I had to register my MAC address first with the provider.

I'm pretty sure my ISP isnt checking my MAC address as my PC and other computer on the network work fine with regards to internet access and I never gave the MAC addresses to the ISP.
However, my modem router does have mac filtering enabled. I have copied the MAC address of the xda to the allowed list. However I've also tried to turn this filter off and the result was the same....I still could connect to my home wireless network but had the same error message when trying to surf through pocket IE.
Any other ideas on why I can connect to the network but IE wont let me surf?
thanks again

I'm having exactly the same problem as Richard. What I don't understand is, I can drive around and find free residential wireless hotspots and surf the net , but I can't do it on my own WLAN!

IP info OK?
These symptoms could indicate that vital IP info is missing on your XDA.
Does your XDA get an IP address + gateway address + DNS server address from the router's DHCP server? Use vxIPConfig to determine this http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html
I know for a fact that many times (not always) my QTEK 9090 does NOT get the required IP info from my SMC Barricade 2804WBR b/g wireless router, so I started using fixed addresses on my QTEK.
If I use DHCP, many times I can connect to the router but am unable to access the internet... Because the QTEK has not received an IP address/gateway address/DNS server address in those cases. Fixed addresses always work.

whoa
thanks for the advice. i installed the app. rubbed the sticks together and there were sparks i tell you!!! but what does it all mean?
the ip address is 169.254.84.245
subnet mask 255.255.0.0
dhcp server 255.255.255.255
im no tekkie so am not sure what the above means? does it provide any clues?
thanks for the advice so far

just an update
i manually inputted the ip address assigned to my xda by the router as i have dhcp disabled on the router.
nonetheless it sill doesnt let me connect to the net but i can connect to the wlan?

richard321_blue said:
just an update
i manually inputted the ip address assigned to my xda by the router as i have dhcp disabled on the router.
nonetheless it sill doesnt let me connect to the net but i can connect to the wlan?
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Fixed IP address is good, but have you also put in the gateway address and DNS server address? Normally the gateway address + DNS server address = router address.
If your routers IP address would be 192.168.1.1 (quite common address), then your IP address could be 192.168.1.2, gateway address would be 192.168.1.1 and DNS server (name server) address also 192.168.1.1.
BTW; this:
the ip address is 169.254.84.245
subnet mask 255.255.0.0
dhcp server 255.255.255.255 <========= !!!!
means that DHCP didn't work!
I suppose that when you state "connect to the wlan" you mean that you can 'see' machines on your local network? Or what? That would make sense because you wouldn't need a gateway address and DNS server address for that normally (broadcasts).

siliconaddict....you're a genius!
finally it works, it works i say.
fantastic.
thanks to all for the advice and feedback - much appreciated.
can i stoke the fire and ask how i can sync via wifi as well?

never done it myself, but here is a guide
I have never synced over WiFi myself, but here are some guides:
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/WM2003/ActiveSync/WM2003ActiveSyncConfiguration.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=132820
Please note that the next version of Activesync, version 4, doesn't do syncing over Wifi anymore...
Good luck!

Sorry to be a complete noob, but:
1. How do I find out the IP Address of the XDA (Is it in Wireless LAN Manager, under "current config" and "IP:"?)
2. My Netgear USB WLAN is showing an IP of "0.0.0.0" (on command prompt >> ipconfig) How do I change this?
Thanks

Q & A
A 1: On your PDA use Use vxIPConfig for this http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html. Unfortunately the OS doesn't have a standard utility for it, like 'ipconfig'.
A 2: Does your router hand out IP addresses at all? Or: is DHCP enabled on your router? If true, do you have the correct drivers loaded for that USB NIC? In Device Manager how does it look? Yellow exclamation mark? Can you post the output of 'ipconfig /all'.

Wireless Problem

Done a search on various site but still no joy.
Just got a o2 XDA Mini S yesterday.But I cannot get it to connect to my wireless network at home.Its an open network, with a laptop,3 PC's,2 xbox's accessing it various times of day.All connect no problem.
My xda says my network is available,but cannot connect to it. Do I need to put in IP addresses in manually ? On the network cards section, it the SDIO WLAN wireless adapter that is used ?
Have tried allsorts,

First Question,
Is your WiFi router set to DHCP mode. If so then check that your device is also set to DHCP mode. If not change router to DHCP check that all your other devices are set to DHCP then you should automatically be allocated an IP address. A useful utility is WiFi Companion.
This scans for available networks and allows you to connect. it will also show you the IP address you have been assigned.
You could assign an IP address manually but this will have to be changed every time you walk on to another network. DHCP is better.
Regrads

Thanks for the info DW, it is my router,popped round a mates last night and it connected to his network ok.
Will check what you said and the firewall

not sure by what you mean exactly by open network.
but are you using MAC address filtering?
when I got the Sony Laptop, I was so eager to get it all setup etc, that I forgot bout the filtering, it would see the network, but refused to connect.

I'm having the same problem. My Exec can see the network but not connect. I investigated it a bit more and for some reason it keeps trying to use the same IP address as my laptop. It also cannot connect to the net to update Avant Go when it's syncing (via my laptop).
I've tried connecting with all other devices switched off, to avoid the IP address conflict, but still cannot connect to the internet.
I'm pretty much stumped.

Setting the Wireless power setting for best performance was the trump for me.
On my Vario - Settings - Connections - Wireless LAN - Power Mode

Thanks for the suggestion. I gave it a try but unfortunately it didn't help.
If my laptop is switched off my Exec can connect to my D-Link router, but I cannot access any internet resources. I presume that somewhere in the settings is the solution but I can't find it.

EXCELLENT db44!!!
For some reasons setting wireless "best performance" wortked for me too. Wizard (QTEK 9100 - gray market I guess as QTEK did not register on their site for me). I will still try Opera too.
Kind regards,
Oleg.
www.nano-science.com

same thing happened to my qtek. it detected the network but could not connect and sometimes when it got connected, i still couldn't surf the net. is there anything in the settings that i'm missing? i also tried to enter the IP address manually but no luck either.

My O2 XDA Mini arrived yesterday. It sees my wireless network (as well as two others in my neighborhood) but cannot/will not connect. I've tried everything I've read above - which confirms I'm on the right trail, but...
The D-Link DI-624 wireless router is in DCHP mode. I've dropped all security for connection trials. I've put the MAC address of the XDA in the router, just in case. I cannot find the IP address of the Mini (how do you do that?), but have tried with and without allowing the router to assign it a random and an assigned IP address. My router does NOT have the default (198.162, etc, etc IP address.) so I've been careful not to blindly follow standard instructions. Of course, I have tried with specific IP addresses, default gateway (router), etc, etc.
One clue is that after trying for a long time to connect to the networks it finds, I got one error message from the XDA saying it could not be assigned an IP address from the network(s). Good clue - wish I know what it means.
There are only limited settings to check on the XDA, so I'm wondering if I'm missing something on the router. Any ideas? Many thanks.

wi fi woes :(

hi guys, any help you can give is realy apreciated,
ive never used wifi before on my exec or in a home network so treat me as a beginer. ive got a pci wifi network card and i am trying to set it up so i can use my mda pro when i am at home. my computer is currently connected to my housemates wired network which is a simple set up
bb modem......
......|..............
....router........
..../....\..........
my.....his.......
pc......pc.........
like i said nothing fancy, i installed the network card which went fine and bridged my network connections together as advised by my large local computer retailer. my computer asked me to provide a name and network key so i did. my pc is now connected to my mda pro.
and in the wifi it displays
main
status connected to network
ssid: cusnet *thats what i entered as my network name*
tx rate:auto
mode: ad hoc
channel:6
bssid:00-71-0e-71-29-00
mac:00-09-2d-52-4d-66
ip:169.254.156.219
settings
half in power save
turn off not on
leap
nothing entered
...............................
every so often i get the following
*unable to obtain a server assigned ip address, try later or enter an ip address in network settings*
i cant get any internet based app to work and i am asumeing its due to the settings, any help is gonna be soooo apreciated
i dont want to subscribe to wifi in the city if i cant get it working in my own home lol

any one think this might be a network problem ?
ive posted a few questions on network forums but no reply yet
i am lost
:?

From the info that you have given, it looks like your universal is getting an incorrect ip address. What you need to do is check what your desktop ip address and gateway is. Then give your universal and ip in the same range as the desktop ip and also add the gateway to your device. It should wotk this way !

The best option would be to get a wireless access point instead of the wireless network card and set things up like this.
....bb modem......
...........|..............
........router........
..../......|......\.............
my...access......his......
pc......point.......pc......
The wireless access point plugges directly into the router rather than connecting through your PC.
If you don't fancy the above setup then you could use internet connection sharing. You'll need to remove the bridge between your network cards and ensure that the router,your PC and friends PC's isn't using 192.168.0.x IP addresses.
Then you can select ICS (tick the allow other computers to access internet...) on your network card's (one to the router) advanced properties and select your wireless NIC as your home network connection.
I hope this isn't too heavy I've resisted the temptation to start talking about subnets, NAT, DHCP and all the other networking terms.

access unsecured network

i wants to know how can i access some unsecured network that are near my work place. Basically there are some unsecured network near my work, i have tried to connect to these networks so that i can use internet. However i have no luck in accessing it.
Do i need to enter any ip address in the network adapter or the ip address is automatically taken????
At the moment i have assigned the ip address to 192.168.1.201 so that i can connect to my orange live box.
Thanks in advance

it depend on the wifi router setup
as default it run dhcp and asign you an ip
but that can be turned off
some wifi's require a login to the internet isp's site or telnet to open for internet (i know my home one does)
also you cant really see if a wifi router use mac filtering
for security then it will just not route for you if your mac add is not on it's list

remote desktop problem

Hi everyone,
I would like to connect to my laptop next room from local network. I can connect perfectly when I type in my IP address into the first textbox (Computer), but I can't connect when I type in my Computer Name (full computer name) instead. I tried MyPCName as Computer, \\MyPCName as Computer, forwarding port 3389 to my IP, leaving domain name empty, putting in my workgroup name as a domain, putting in my computer name as a domain, putting in myPCName\MyUserName as Username, \\MyPCName as Computer, still the same. It won't connect unless I put in the IP address. I would like to do this since my workplace assigns a different IP to my laptop then I assign at home, but naturally I have the same computer name at both places, so I would like to have a permanent setting for both places.
I'm running Windows 7 64 bit on my laptop and 1.66.405.2 ROM on my HTC HD2.
Many thanks in advance.

can you connect to it ok using another computer? might be a dns issue at a guess...

I can connect from other computers fine. Also on my HD2 I can see the host names of PC's under Resco Explorer and map them. However, remote desktop mobile refuses to work with the Computer Name. I can ping my Laptop's IP and also Computer name from pingbox2. Only in Remote Desktop Mobile there is a problem.

windows 7 by default blocks remote desktop connections from different versions of remote desktop. if you right click computer and select properties, then choose remote settings on the right hand side and select the middle option (accept connections from all verions of remote desktop). havent tried this my self but it solves most issues when using different versions of windows

OK, I sort of figured it but would still appreciate some help. Here is how I got it to work:
I had OpenDNS IP under DNS settings for wireless adapter. I deleted them. If I don't do this, pinging my computer name from HD2 always brings 67.215.65.132, which is opendns and not my true local IP, i.e. 192.168.x.x. I also had to disable the data connection (3G) and only have wireless. If I don't disable 3G, I can only connect with IP and not computer name. Only after doing these 2, when I pinged my computer name, I got the true local IP and I was able to connect with Remote Desktop Mobile using computer name. Now my question is:
1- I don't want to quit using opendns, is it possible?
2- I don't want to disable 3G connection every time, is it possible?
thanks in advance.

For me it works with MyPCName in computer and empty domain, both for XP and 7.

Something seems strange with your phone's networking configuration. At a guess (and this is a long shot), I would check your VPN settings on your phone to make sure you're not connecting to a different domain over 3G as this might explain why it works when you turn off the data connection on the phone and why it works by IP address.
As I said though, it's a long shot and is the only thing I could think of that fits your particular symptoms...

ozkaya said:
OK, I sort of figured it but would still appreciate some help. Here is how I got it to work:
I had OpenDNS IP under DNS settings for wireless adapter. I deleted them. If I don't do this, pinging my computer name from HD2 always brings 67.215.65.132, which is opendns and not my true local IP, i.e. 192.168.x.x. I also had to disable the data connection (3G) and only have wireless. Only after doing these 2, when I pinged my computer name, I got the true local IP and I was able to connect with Remote Desktop Mobile using computer name. Now my question is:
1- I don't want to quit using opendns, is it possible?
2- I don't want to disable 3G connection every time, is it possible?
thanks in advance.
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about the open dns issues, I suspect that can be solved by making sure your router lets the incoming connection into your home network (you say it resolves to 66.whatever when open dns is used, shouldn't be a problem do long as you don't forget that will be your home ip address so that connection will neef to be allowed through the router and then forwarded by your routers virtual server (our whatever your router software calls out) to your laptops internal ip address.
as for the 3g it should use wifi over 3g by default..... mine certainly does, no need for me to disable it.

tomallen35 said:
Something seems strange with your phone's networking configuration. At a guess (and this is a long shot), I would check your VPN settings on your phone to make sure you're not connecting to a different domain over 3G as this might explain why it works when you turn off the data connection on the phone and why it works by IP address.
As I said though, it's a long shot and is the only thing I could think of that fits your particular symptoms...
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I think you're right, when the 3G is on (and also Wifi on), Resco shows computers from all around the country when I click computers near me and not my local network. When only wifi is on I can see my local computers. 3G probably has precedence over Wifi? How can I correct this?

samsamuel said:
about the open dns issues, I suspect that can be solved by making sure your router lets the incoming connection into your home network (you say it resolves to 66.whatever when open dns is used, shouldn't be a problem do long as you don't forget that will be your home ip address so that connection will neef to be allowed through the router and then forwarded by your routers virtual server (our whatever your router software calls out) to your laptops internal ip address.
as for the 3g it should use wifi over 3g by default..... mine certainly does, no need for me to disable it.
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But the 66.whatever address is generic openDNS lookup IP and same for everyone. Are you suggesting me to route this IP to my local IP, i.e. 192.168.x.x? Oh, one more thing, I can also connect when 3g and wifi are both on, but only through computer's IP and not computer name. Can you connect with computer name while both are on and connected?

when your phone does a dns lookup on the name it resolves to the open dns assigned address (not the same for everyone, otherwise the open fns system wouldn't work) so to connect to your computer the phone sends its request to open dns who forward that request to your current actual address.at home that address is your home ip address BUT it isn't your laptops address it is your routers address.(stop reading here if you don't have a router).
so the router needs to be told "if you get a connection request in port (whatever the remote desktop port is) please forward it to (laptop ip address)
its called port forwarding in some routers, virtual server in others.

samsamuel said:
so the router needs to be told "if you get a connection request in port (whatever the remote desktop port is) please forward it to (laptop ip address)
its called port forwarding in some routers, virtual server in others.
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You're mixing up things a bit - he's not using dns but the computer netbios name. The point is that he has wifi on and connected as well as 3G, thus with an "intranet" ip address on Wifi... so the program/phone should be looking up the name on that connection, where it would find it, instead of looking up over the 3G connection. As the netbios protocol is not routable, it has no chance of finding the computer name over 3G/internet and back home, even with port mappings.

kilrah said:
You're mixing up things a bit - he's not using dns but the computer netbios name. The point is that he has wifi on and connected as well as 3G, thus with an "intranet" ip address on Wifi... so the program/phone should be looking up the name on that connection, where it would find it, instead of looking up over the 3G connection. As the netbios protocol is not routable, it has no chance of finding the computer name over 3G/internet and back home, even with port mappings.
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you're totally right, I have a router and its port is forwarded to my laptop IP, but this is only good (and works well too) when I want to connect from Internet to my local network. I tried OpenDNS exceptions for VPN and defined an exception named as MyComputerName but it didn't work. Then I tried a dyndns solution, but it only works for external connections and not local network, i.e. it can't map local IP's. What I need is a dynamic client which can update my local IP.
I also tried to edit hosts entry in the registry with MyComputerName. It works for a single IP, but I'm not sure if I can write multiple IP adresses (my work and home local IP) into that. If I could maybe everything would be OK.

I've just tried a couple of things and it really works fine for me. If I connect Wifi only, I can remote desktop with the computer name. If I then connect data connection, it still works. Disabling wifi and obviously it doesn't work anymore. Re enabling wifi, it doesn't work at first, but does again after ~30 seconds once the netbios protocol has done its host lookup procedures.
There simply shouldn't be anything special to do.

kilrah said:
I've just tried a couple of things and it really works fine for me. If I connect Wifi only, I can remote desktop with the computer name. If I then connect data connection, it still works. Disabling wifi and obviously it doesn't work anymore. Re enabling wifi, it doesn't work at first, but does again after ~30 seconds once the netbios protocol has done its host lookup procedures.
There simply shouldn't be anything special to do.
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thank you very much for your time, I appreciate it. You're right in that waiting a bit resolves the issue (it's a bit more than 30 secs for me that's why I thought it wasn't working when 3G is enabled) but only when OpenDNS is not used. I assume you don't use OpenDNS, right? Once I put that one into equation, it takes over NetBIOS protocol and returns its IP instead of the local IP(192.168.x.x). As far as I understand, DNS lookup has precedence over NETBIOS and if the name is not found in DNS it consults NETBIOS protocol. However OpenDNS has this nice "feature" where it finds the name with its own IP. There are several posts about this on its webpage and they say to either disable the typo correction or put exceptions for Netbios names, but sadly none of them works for me right now.

Nope, no OpenDNS, never actually heard of it.
How does it work? Do you enter their DNS server address in the network settings of your pc/phone, or is it an app you run?

you click Start/Settings/All Settings/Connections/Wifi/First Button/Switch to Network Adapters tab/Select Broadcom 802.11 DHD Network Adapter/Switch to Name Servers Tab/Type in 208.67.222.222 for primary DNS and 208.67.220.220 for secondary DNS, click OK. that's all. Could you try if it's not so much trouble? Thanks.

OK, remote desktop doesn't work either with the OpenDNS servers in.
I'm pretty sure it must be a limitation of the remote desktop app itself, as resco explorer can still navigate and/or discover the network shares of my other PCs with no problem. NBTStatCE also finds everybody.
Wouldn't even surprise me, as that Remote desktop mobile has always been troublesome. I don't remember exactly, but in the WM5 days it was pretty much impossible to use on a local network due to a weird handling of names... if I remember well all "local" (NetBIOS) addresses without a '.' entered in the remote desktop app would be redirected to the "Work" connection, while "remote" ones with a period would be directed on the "Internet" connection. As a network card can only be defined as one of them, if you wanted it to work in both cases through Wifi you had to switch the card from Work to Internet and back all the time. And of course when it's on Work it breaks some other things that use the default system handling like mail.