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Is there anyway i can replace my regular Browser with the Multi-Touch Browser on the Google Ion ROM?
I really dont want to flash a different ROM because i feel the Ion is the most stable and complete. No flaws
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Is there anyway i can replace my regular Browser with the Multi-Touch Browser on the Google Ion ROM?
I really dont want to flash a different ROM because i feel the Ion is the most stable and complete. No flaws
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i think it needs a kernel that enables mutlitouch.. lol i thought this was a developers forum.. and i thought you would have a way to get multitouch on ion.. smh
Again I must ask, What is the big deal with multi-touch? If a mobile browser is worth it's weight then you shouldn't need to constantly zoom in and out. Is it simply an "Apple has it so it must be needed" thing?
No...
I could care less about Apple... Multi-Touch not only makes the zooming easier but also adds a wow factor to the phone. Makes apps more fun, texting on the VK faster, and more efficient... Multi-Touch is needed on a phone like the G1, all the browser needs is some more work, but the double tap works pro. I love it, but we need multi touch for ion... is there anyway i can download it as an .apk or something and add it to my phone
281 said:
I could care less about Apple... Multi-Touch not only makes the zooming easier but also adds a wow factor to the phone. Makes apps more fun, texting on the VK faster, and more efficient... Multi-Touch is needed on a phone like the G1, all the browser needs is some more work, but the double tap works pro. I love it, but we need multi touch for ion... is there anyway i can download it as an .apk or something and add it to my phone
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Multitouch makes you have to use two hands to use your phone.
Inefficient and slow.
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Multitouch makes you have to use two hands to use your phone.
Inefficient and slow.
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The G1 is large and makes your pants heavier, so get a new free phone.
No.
MultiTouch is an additional feature, nothing more. If you can have an additional feature, why not? Its not like you can't normally zoom or anything, moreover it demonstrates the capabilities of this phone in the hands of the right users.
Okay, so here is a bit of a misconception. The multitouch is not in the browser, it is in a hacked kernel. Therefore, a Browser may support multitouch, but it doesn't mean you can use multitouch. Simply, the Browser is just a means to use the multitouch, while the multitouch itself is in the ROM. No Multitouch ROM means no Multitouch browser, even if your Browser does support it.
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The G1 is large and makes your pants heavier, so get a new free phone.
No.
MultiTouch is an additional feature, nothing more. If you can have an additional feature, why not? Its not like you can't normally zoom or anything, moreover it demonstrates the capabilities of this phone in the hands of the right users.
Okay, so here is a bit of a misconception. The multitouch is not in the browser, it is in a hacked kernel. Therefore, a Browser may support multitouch, but it doesn't mean you can use multitouch. Simply, the Browser is just a means to use the multitouch, while the multitouch itself is in the ROM. No Multitouch ROM means no Multitouch browser, even if your Browser does support it.
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Yeah, because the graphics acceleration works great and the multitouch zoom looks great!
Do I have to say the "no" part, or do you get it?
I think the question is a matter of, why not? The phone is capable of it, granted it isn't as smooth, but it's not like it is going to cost you an arm or anything. You aren't compromising anything for this feature, so simply, why not?
Now we all have the multi-touch function and I am wondering what everyone else think of it.
What exactly do you guys do with the function? I mean I can only imagine the use of it on two things.
1. Use it to pinch-zoom in browser.
2. Use it in game.
If I am not missing something, what's the use? People have been wanting it for so long and now, when I see it, it's like one of those things that you won't even miss it, when it's gone.
So, where do you use the multi-touch?
That browser pinch nonsense certainly doesn't offer any tangible benefits. What multitouch *does* offer though is a better soft-keyboard experience. With single touch, you need to press a button and release it before pressing down the next one. With multitouch, you can overlap key presses for a more natural typing experience. Of course, this requires a soft keyboard with multitouch awareness.
I must agree. I don't want it, or need it.
I mean I like it but we don't have any keyboard that support the function and 'NO' the original keyboard isn't multi-touch. It is only multi IF it works like the one in Iphone. I have my swype, so Im happy.
I have never wanted it, and don't see a need for it. Now that it is implemented in places people wanted it Apple is one down, however I don't see many using it
meh, i use it when browsing through the internet, so i guess i consider it a pretty nice feature, but thats about it. Its not really a negative feature (its not like it makes the phone unstable or anything) and to me, it's really more of a cosmetic feature rather than a practical one.
Oh, and another use for multitouch: Rub it in the faces of non-rooted G1 users
deaffob said:
I mean I like it but we don't have any keyboard that support the function and 'NO' the original keyboard isn't multi-touch. It is only multi IF it works like the one in Iphone. I have my swype, so Im happy.
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Smart Keyboard has multi-touch (for 2.0 and greater):
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.net-cdeguet-smartkeyboard-pFFn.aspx
lbcoder said:
That browser pinch nonsense certainly doesn't offer any tangible benefits. What multitouch *does* offer though is a better soft-keyboard experience. With single touch, you need to press a button and release it before pressing down the next one. With multitouch, you can overlap key presses for a more natural typing experience. Of course, this requires a soft keyboard with multitouch awareness.
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+1
To me touchscreens just felt too gimmicky, that's one of the reasons I never got an jesusPhone when they first came out. After playing with one, though, I saw that it had merits, but never really warmed up to the multitouch thing. When I got my APD1, and after the cupcake update, I never really used the soft keyboard much. I used to think the physical one was just better, but when I played with a Hero (and Hero builds), it made a world of difference. I saw myself using the HTC soft keyboard a lot more.
I still find two finger operation kind of senseless, I like single-handed operation, and love the double-tap to zoom at the eclair browser, but for things that are best done with two hands (yeah, that too!), like typing, multitouch is a must.
I don't use it because the current hack of the browser with multitouch is unusable: it's slow and doesn't scale linearly but instead by steps.
If it is correctly implemented in 2.1 now, maybe I would use it in the future.
benoitb85 said:
I don't use it because the current hack of the browser with multitouch is unusable: it's slow and doesn't scale linearly but instead by steps.
If it is correctly implemented in 2.1 now, maybe I would use it in the future.
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I agree. The 2.1 ROMs, and their multitouch in the browser make me not care about the feature completely. I have not had one ROM that multitouch has ran smoothly for me, unless we (they) haven't yet achieved that?
I have MT (Dwang's rom) but never use it. For the browser, I use Steel browser and prefer its long-press-and-hold zoom system. As others have said, it's mostly useful with soft keyboards.
Eclair~ said:
I agree. The 2.1 ROMs, and their multitouch in the browser make me not care about the feature completely. I have not had one ROM that multitouch has ran smoothly for me, unless we (they) haven't yet achieved that?
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the official nexus one multitouch looks pretty smooth to me in this video:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/02/nexus-one-gets-a-software-update-enables-multitouch/
Yes, if I could have my Dream behave like that, I would use multitouch
I like multitouch in Maps, it's so smooth! Would like the same smoothness in the browser.
I dont use multi-touch most of the time, but I one of those people that likes to have the option rather than it be removed, I mostly use it if I'm bored
Since when do we have multi touch for the g1?
mylostlonelysoul said:
Since when do we have multi touch for the g1?
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the g1 has had mutli-touch capabilities since the beginning
How do we enable it?
I know Hero has it but never seen it used on any other rom or phone besides hero. But I can get multitouch hack for google maps.
mylostlonelysoul said:
How do we enable it?
I know Hero has it but never seen it used on any other rom or phone besides hero. But I can get multitouch hack for google maps.
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its included in most of the ROMses already.
i would only use multi touch for a better user experience on soft keyboards. dont really use it on the browser that much
Does anyone know when this comes to HD2 look like this is new sense for android with new screen transition system.
THIS LOOK VERY VERY GOOD anyone know anything about this
marko987 said:
Does anyone know when this comes to HD2 look like this is new sense for android with new screen transition system.
THIS LOOK VERY VERY GOOD anyone know anything about this
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That's just a task manager. There's a skinable one for WM whose name I can't remember right now, but it's been discussed on this forum recently. Since it's skinable, you can make it look however you wish.
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I look at mobile reviw thats part of new sense for android
The new version of HTC Sense features several nice touches - a more detailed screen with contact's personal information and his activities, plus the new Sense's main attraction, new screen transition system.
I don't know how it's implemented on Windows Mobile phones yet, but on Android it works like this. What you are at the home screen, pressing the Home button calls the Screen menu allowing you to pick the one you need, which is pretty convenient, but there is one flaw to it. The phones that were featured at HTC's MWC booth made that window pop-up only when we pressed the button while staring at the Home screen. If we happened to be looking at Music, Weather or any other section of the phone, punching the Home key got us back to the Home Screen and that was it. I feel like this feature must work in any place around the UI, and I hope that it will.
from mobile review MWC2010. HTC
taskfacade
Android home screens are customizable and can only be switched one by one which is why the helicopter view might be more important. You can fly with the slider bar on WM Sense so it makes it less useful - plus it'll be difficult to get all our tabs in that Expose-esque view
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That's just a task manager. There's a skinable one for WM whose name I can't remember right now, but it's been discussed on this forum recently. Since it's skinable, you can make it look however you wish.
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Actually that's not a task manager, thats the new pinch to zoom homescreen that zooms out to let you select the home screen. It's called leap, see demonstration here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wprir04RIn8
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That will never come to the HD2.
Get a Desire.
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That will never come to the HD2.
Get a Desire.
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But that's such a massive downgrade.
Lose 0.6" off your screen size, lose WinMo6.5.3 (which is better than Android imo), and lose your NA 3G coverage (assuming you're rocking a T9193).
I will say that at least HTC finally smartened up and started putting flashes in their phones. My buddy has an HTC Hero and the only complaint he has about it is no flash.
To be honest, I ordered one and will sell my HD2. I lose 0.6" screen size and one camera LED, but I gain Android.
Since I'm in Europe, I don't lose 3G.
I've used Android on an old Samsung phone for some time, and I discovered that I simply enjoy using it.
Despite that this phone is awfully slow and has a very small 3.2" screen, I find the experience to be much better than the one I have with my HD2.
Thus, I'm getting a Desire.
(I'd buy a Samsung Galaxy S with 4" screen, but I want at least one LED for the camera: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-android-smartphone/)
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I've used Android on an old Samsung phone for some time, and I discovered that I simply enjoy using it.
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I hate Linux and Google, and don't like the look-and-feel of Android.
>: |
C:Sharp! said:
I want at least one LED for the camera
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Pfft, don't lie...
...you just want a flashlight.
; )
lbhocky19 said:
taskfacade
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Bingo!
chaoscentral said:
Actually that's not a task manager, thats the new pinch to zoom homescreen that zooms out to let you select the home screen. It's called leap, see demonstration here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wprir04RIn8
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Same thing.
Taskfacade has nothing to do with that... except that it looks similar, but totally different functionality.
ICS will not need physical buttons (hard or capacitive) since they will be onscreen like Honeycomb. Handsets made for ICS (like Nexus Prime) will take advantage of this by giving us bigger screens - e.g. 4.6" in the Eo form factor.
Of course it will run on current devices, will no longer be the best way to experience ICS.
No, a real button or a capacative button is always better, the space that ice user with the on screen buttons is already made up for with our real buttons
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Nobody knows for sure if ICS will remove the need for hardware buttons. If it did, I am sure ICS would have legacy device support.
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I've seen somewhere that most devices released within the last year or so should be able to run the update
My guess would be that on devices with physical buttons, it'll hide the redundant buttons.
I'm inclined to agree that it's going to be a non-issue. Android currently handles phones that have hardware keyboards and also phones that are screen-only. Both work fine and there's no reason to think that the same idea won't be applied to deal with absence or presence of hardware menu buttons.
I dunno about others, but I VASTLY prefer actual buttons to software buttons. If I wanted software buttons only, I'd have gotten an iphone. I prefer real buttons to capacitive ones as well. God I hope ICS retains the physical buttons, be they capacative or clicky.
Yes, ICS will run on current devices, and it will hide the software buttons. But onscreen buttons are the future IMO, because they can adapt. When you rotate the screen, the buttons move so they are always where you expect them. It gives more screen real estate for everything else.
Physical buttons are controlled by software anyway. If the OS hangs they stop responding.
I'm pretty sure its confirmed ICS will go this way.
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Yes, ICS will run on current devices, and it will hide the software buttons. But onscreen buttons are the future IMO, because they can adapt. When you rotate the screen, the buttons move so they are always where you expect them. It gives more screen real estate for everything else.
Physical buttons are controlled by software anyway. If the OS hangs they stop responding.
I'm pretty sure its confirmed ICS will go this way.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
Another thing, the bar can show extra buttons. e.g. on HC, it has the apps button which opens a list of all running apps. No need to long press Home anymore.
This is context sensitive, using API's apps can add their own functionality to this.
When I first heard about the move to virtual buttons, I wasn't thrilled, as I really like having those 4 buttons there consistently. I'm still not totally sold, but as others have mentioned, especially with capacitive buttons, there's not much of a difference between a spot that's silkscreened on the phone and one that's just an icon on the screen. As long as they are there when you need them, I think it'll be OK. And as others have said, there may be some useful adaptive behaviors that could be done with that (as long as things remain relatively consistent for the core buttons).
Also, my approval would only be if the screen takes over that space AND phone gets a bump in vertical resolution to match the space (not just stretching the same resolution or even worse, losing the space physically).
The real question should be will the evo 4g actually get ICS update offically? Or are we going to have to hope for a dev to make us a rom. I personally prefer a rooted stock rom with a moded kernel(overclock undervolt) to a custom one. So i hope we get an offical release of ICS.
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The real question should be will the evo 4g actually get ICS update offically? Or are we going to have to hope for a dev to make us a rom. I personally prefer a rooted stock rom with a moded kernel(overclock undervolt) to a custom one. So i hope we get an offical release of ICS.
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why would the evo4g get ICS officially if the evo4g is at it's end of life?
Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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Thanks.
I'm kind of disappointed no one seems to be interested in multi window. I think it's a killer feature.
Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
donec said:
Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
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Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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kcls said:
Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher. So they claim the muli-screens are part of the (their name for it) framework. All I know is I wish the multi-screens and floating windows could be part of Android so multi-screens and floating windows could be on all android devices because they really help productivity.
trita629 said:
Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop. The touchwiz version doesn't have the same compatibility problems because the app developer must integrate support into his app, instead of it working automatically.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher.
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They are referring to touchscreen as the visible elements (adjustments to notifications, touchwiz launcher, etc.) and in the technical sense. They have only hidden these elements, not removed them (except for the launcher and default apps). The ROM is still based off of a touchwiz ROM, and not AOSP, hence the multi window options remain.
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Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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It'd be better on n7. I could watch twitch/use yaairc as desired!
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I don't see the appeal really. Unless on a Tablet. Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5". other than watching video while doing other things which we can already do. what else you need to do really that you can't just switch to
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If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
DLFB said:
If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
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I'm not begging but +1
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop.
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Wasn't it just moveable 'windows' that Google was against?
If you want to port touchwiz frame work over to the nexus. You do that then I will short the multi window!
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malibu_23 said:
Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5"
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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While personally I don't much of a point for this on small screens - it still stands that the smaller screens of today are still going on resolutions that used to be tablet domain, Now that the lines between tablets, phablets and tablets have been getting much more blurry - and many of all 3 are based on same SoCs (Both due to SoC & auxiliary size shrinking and avg phone size growing) - this function should hopefully be revived.
Especially considering the developement an outspread of highly capable android tablets during the last year.