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has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
mackaby007 said:
has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
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I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
Thanks guys. I'll try them both and let you know how I get on.
Damn!! My Jasjar is a Rocket!!
sub69 said:
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
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sub69: I don't know what kind of coding they used in that software you recommended, but it has boosted refresh rates and performance in general by at least 30%!! I know this sounds crazy but it's true! My opinion has completely changed about the speed of the Jasjar. It seriously Rocks! I couldn't care less if it doesn't stay this way, because it shows me conclusively, that future ROMs' will probably address the issues I have had thus far.
I needed this. Thanks a bunch sub69; best link I've had with regards to Universal software.
OK 1 gripe only: I've lost my two soft buttons on the bottom bar (any ideas?). It comes back and stays operational after a soft reset, but as soon as I use the 'close all' option of the program, I loose the soft keys! Damn..there's always a hitch!
Another positive though, the speed boost remains even after I have exited the program and revert to standard WM5.0 launcher!
P.S. I had at least 12 programs running simultaneously with no slow downs at all and 15 megs of Memory still available (tried to run out of memory, But couldn't). Very pleased at the moment, this is what I was expecting from the HTC Universal!! I'll test extensively before I comment further.
Thanks again sub69, u da Man!!
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
Re:getting better all the time!!
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Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
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Still cannot believe it!! It's still going strong. Sussed the soft button thingy:Under start (GSPocket)/options/settings...uncheck the 2 tabs for'use exten task close' & 'Use Today skin'. That's it. It runs absolutely perfectly for me & with no need for amended bitmaps too! It fits right in wih my red or blue border themes (I only use my own jpegs now instead of themes - in the hope that I get no performance issues.....so far so good). Under menu settind tab I only select close all & setting (which gives me quick access to all settings in WM5.0..personal & system) and under 'click' tab I leave it as default 'Menu'. I'm so impressed with this software, I didn't think non-specific WM5 software coul be this good!
That site you recommended is also tops!
This software is so good that I must put up a new thread to inform all of your wonder find. I just hope all who try it get the same experience I'm getting. Thanks again sub69....I don't even feel the need for the next ROM update/grade...though I won't be turning it away.
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
MagicButton (mbutton) works with batterymeter
Hi All,
I installed MagicButton (freeware) om my K-Jam. It works so far!
Cheers,
CookieM
pocketpcfreewares.com is great! They do an RSSfeed showing all new and updated software, too, so its a permanent fixture as a "Live Bookmark" on my Firefox bookmarks toolbar.
I must fiddle with some .bmp's for GSPocketMagic++...
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
It's simpler than you think
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Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
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CJSnet said:
Which CAB file do I install?
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GSPMagic.xscaleE.CAB for english on JJ
Sub69, nice start button, now the flawless look sets it off
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That's the file you need to download for the Jasjar, then if you have an SD card reader, you can transfer it directly to it and install the .cab file by selecting it! If you don't have a card reader, let's hope you have a bluetooth dongle, as it's a small file then you can bluetooth it over. However if you have no problems with your activesync connection, just use that to dump the .cab file on your storage card somewhere or into 'My Documents' on the jasjar.
It's not complicated.
Read the posts craigiecraigie4!
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Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
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craigiecraigie4 said:
I can confirm that this programme is small and perfectly funcitonal for closing apps. If you're battling with PocketPlus for some reason, then this is definitely the way to go.
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For anyone like sub69 who have experienced relatively few problems with their universal, you might not notice any difference, but for anyone who is still suffering performance issues
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Read the following thread and you'll see that I had performance issues with my jasjar, hence these posts:
Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30443
ramram said:
I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
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Good App ! made my day, very useful and simple
Cheers
hrb
Yep, using it myself now - but no speed change over PocketPlus (even after hard reset to remove PP). Using it cos I like menu and PP didn;t offer all that much more that other apps don;t give me.
I've been using it for two weeks and I love this little machine!
However, I sometimes find it quite slow (I usually open two apps at the same time) and turn on Wi-fi and GPRS.
Anybody can share your experience on how to optimize your Shift / Vista?
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Anybody can share your experience on how to optimize your Shift / Vista?
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sure, one of the plans of shift project is to collect shift specific and also non specific tweaks to vista
I'm still on my little holiday but ltxda is looking into that
here's some generic ones though common sense will already tell you, but just in case:
- disable stupid services - though HTC already did some of that work, still worth checking that out. funny thing here: shagctrl relies on windows audio so leave those services alone.
- disable window animations, the vista theme itself doesn't require much resources but any kind of animation and other vista fluff will have a serious impact on GUI performance.
- disable any other features in control panel that you don't need. I heartily recommend you check out all advanced settings too
- remove all useless tray icons and startup services / other startup apps
- use apps that are light on resources - my preferred email and IM clients are such programs, also opera is a bit faster than the default IE7... definitely faster than firefox 2 (sorry).
that way I get 500MB free ram easily and near 3 hours on battery with some wifi usage.
ofcourse the ultimate optimization is ... snapvue
Hi Cmonex,
500mb of RAM free eh? i'd love that... best i've got is about 400mb... is there any chance you could embellish the above a bit more and give us a bit more detail of what you did please?
Thanks!
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- disable stupid services -
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The chalence there for me is that I have no idea what service I need an witch I don't. I am clueless about what exactly they do...
Could you list the ones that you disabled? and what they normaly do?
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
Check here - http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=513758
for a very useful post on which services do what, and whether they are safe to disable.
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Check here - http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=513758
for a very useful post on which services do what, and whether they are safe to disable.
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Great Thanks!
That is a big list! Just what I asked for. Thanks
Just for info, I found that by typing 'disable vista services' into Google.
Google really is your best friend.
Lots of people I know think that I know everything about computers - I don't (yet ) but I do know that Google knows all. All you need to know is how to ask the question.
There is an excellent tutorial on getting the best from Google here.
note - I'm not having a dig at anyone with this post, just thought some might find the info useful.
I guess you're right...
Thx for googling for me.
Here is a "Snow Dome" type of application. Completely useless, but it was fun for programming. Try using it 2 days in a row
Watch this space for enhancements over time.
- Changed the speed
All new version on 22 Sep 2008
This has been a complete rewrite of the SnowStorm application and it was a good learning school !
Despite the complexity of the algorithm, I think the response times are very acceptable. If you like to count the number of snowflakes: there are 200 of them and each of them is updated every 40 ms !
I am really impressed with the 3D capabilities of the Diamond !
Using the OpenGLES SDK to create a "pseudo" 3D layout.
- Snowflakes will be larger in the front then in the back.
- If the PDA is laying horizontal, snowflakes will "disappear" to the back-end or stay on the front after a while
- Pseudo horizon, fixed at about 50% of the screen.
- Simple graphics, trees are placed randomly, snowman is fixed
- Simple turbulence (any pointers to good algorithms are appreciated)
- Snowflakes disappear behind trees/snowman, depending on their position in space. They will travel through them however
- Simple collision detection, only sides of the "frustum" are checked, as well as the artificial floor.
Click on the top part to be asked to quit the program. Click on the lower (25%) of the screen to restart it.
Expect some other enhancements over time too.
Needs CF 3.5 !
Important:
If you like my applications and want to donate, consider a donation to Koushik.
After all it is thanks to his (and the many other developers) work and readiness to share it that I can write these programs. I (currently) still get enough satisfaction in writing these programs.
lol... cool ... totally useless!
But I think It should react more when u shake it..!?
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lol... cool ... totally useless!
But I think It should react more when u shake it..!?
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..xmas is just around the corner ;-). And tomorrow I'll go on summer holiday! 3 weeks no xda dev....uff
Really a cool apps!
haha
totally random
but useless
well at least ill show off my friends i have a digital snowstorm ball
i wonder if you can put it as a wallpaper
so when you are in the 'home' tab and move the phone it snow
Without words.......
But wit an enormous grin!!!!!!!!!!!
Video here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=723
Nice, but way too slow. The flakes should also move faster when the movement is more violent.
Thx
Surur
how about a flying santa when you shake it ?
.net compact framework
.net compact framework needed, where can i get the latest version for my diamond?
Totally useless, but...........very cool.
Only a question. I've installed your cab but I've obtained only the second image that you've posted not the first. Is there a way to pass from one image to another ?
Thanks
Picture selection
unvisigoth said:
Totally useless, but...........very cool.
Only a question. I've installed your cab but I've obtained only the second image that you've posted not the first. Is there a way to pass from one image to another ?
Thanks
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Currently there is no way to change the images, I just display one each day
So to answer your question: wait for a day
BTW, working on a new openGL based version that might react faster and more realistic
- Also thinking about user selected pictures, so you can insert anything you like.
- Anybody thinks that having sound is a good idea ?
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- Anybody thinks that having sound is a good idea ?
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Definitely little jingle bells
Surur
Jingle Bells
Send me a wave or mp3 with some jingle bells and I'll do my best. I'll make sure you have it before Xmas.
cgeboers said:
Currently there is no way to change the images, I just display one each day
[...]
- Also thinking about user selected pictures, so you can insert anything you like.
- Anybody thinks that having sound is a good idea ?
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This could be big... Xperia X1's Fish tank big..., maybe we could use this as a screensaver or as an unlock screen of some kind....
Maybe we should be able to change not only the picture on the background but the color and size on the snowflakes as well, so it won't be just a christmas thing...
Also, maybe you should also put some interactive water in the ball... as for sound? It's not really necessary i think...
Good job btw! Thanks...
What version of .net do I need? My Diamond gives me errors that .net is missing?
.NET CF 3.5
Admiral_Thrawn said:
What version of .net do I need? My Diamond gives me errors that .net is missing?
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I use .NET CF 3.5 for most of my applications. It comes with the ROM image I installed, but it is also downloadable for free from Microsoft. Have a look in this forum, there are several pointers to it. (Sorry, that I can not be more helpful)
I know the speed doesnt need to be turbo cuz the snowflkes are in the fluid (water, etc..) but having this in mind, the movement is still toooooo slow.. Same with the beer application.. Can it be more faster? Take a look here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CEBtJG3pFhI
Cool! Thank you!
cool application for xmas
i do have a suggestion though
i would assume that the large amount of snowflakes caused the slow down..i think you should have about 50 snowflakes at most (maybe slightly bigger if necessary)..200 makes it a bit too clustered
cool good job
Wow I am made up to see this, I don't know why I didn't see it before, I think it may even have been my idea once, so thanks a lot for making it real.
So many downloads awesome!
Edit: Had a play great, better than I thought, Looking forward to be able to run it with my own background image.
NEW THREAD HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
cleanRAM
Release memory for Windows Mobile devices.
Amazing utility which helps you to clean up the wasted RAM memory without having to restart the device and eventually saves a lot of time.
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No more updates here go to cleanRAM new thread...
Looks promising...I can see this in future ROM releases. Downloading now. Thanks!
download link?
Download site is Hebrew and I couldn't fine donwload link, please help us !
uppsss.. I found
This sounds promising
I will try to see if it works on my HD
BTW, here you are guys, thanks to Google translate
----------> http://translate.google.fr/translat...earch?q=http://www.htcaddicts.com/&hl=fr&sa=G
WAHOO !!!! THIS IS REALLY AN AWESOME APP !!!!!
It works perfectly on my HD and it really does what it says
there is just a display problem on the config menu :
then I have a little suggestion :
It would be better to have two different icons for the config tool and the app, because it is a little confusing
Many thanks for sharing !!!!
hanackin said:
WAHOO !!!! THIS IS REALLY AN AWESOME APP !!!!!
It works perfectly on my HD and it really does what it says
there is just a display problem on the config menu :
then I have a little suggestion :
It would be better to have two different icons for the config tool and the app, because it is a little confusing
Many thanks for sharing !!!!
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No problem i will do it but for now it's recommended to select the shortcut: "cleanRAM" to be shortcut icon in your Start Menu (Settings -> Menus).
I saw your screen shot and im sorry about the bad graphics on your HD device it's because the different resolution and I don't have this device to fix this issue. but why you need it anyway (this app)? you don't have enough RAM memory on your HD for ignore this memory leak problem?
In theory yes...
But I'm using the last Dutty's ROM with the new manila and even if it is awesome, one of its major issue is that the RAM is consumed really fast on this ROM! When I restart my phone my RAM is about 45 - 50% and at the and of the day it is about 60% and sometimes more !!!!
So your app is really what I needed
And don't worry for the icons, it is not a big deal.... but fix it would make it perfect
Nice try ! But it seems like the activesync will automatically start when the cleaning process is done. I hope you'll fix it in the next release.
Thanks a lot!
Works great on my Universal
I have a problem: I have installed the cab, but there are no icons in the programm folder... (installed it twice, both times the same problem). I own a diamond with aztor v8 rom and xbmod hd manilla. Can't find a folder for the programm either! Installation progress seems to be ok. Help needed, maybe i'm blind
had nothing better
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I have a problem: I have installed the cab, but there are no icons in the programm folder...
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I have this problem too. I have the Sysius R0 ROM.
Solved:
The icons are in "Windows\Start Menu\Programs" Folder. I'm spanish and my start menu folder is "Windows\Menú Inicio".
Thanks for the app.
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had nothing better
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can't be right! this app special for Diamond / Pro! please see what you get before and after you cleaning (RAM memory).
Note That: after you click on the cleanRAM shoutcut you need to wait until all the cleaning work finished. you can also use "RAM Status Notification" this option will help you to know when its finish.
Very nice tool. Really small too.
Thanks a lot for this!
recomand
I've saved 20Mb, good program thx
problem solved too,thx @OM3G4:
have a german wm, so it should be installed in "Startmenü", but was installed in start menue
by the way: a very nice app! Thank you!
Works great!
Level 1 clean managed to save 1 mb, went from 71 percent to 70 percent.
Level 3 clean pushed it back to 61! cleaned almost 10 mb of memory!
Thanks a lot.
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can't be right! this app special for Diamond / Pro! please see what ...
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sorry for bad englisch - for me - perfect app, thx
i installed this little app and it works great, shortcuts in the programs folder. Ran option 3 and it cleared 11Mb of ram, 68Mb free. Thanks guys for the great app.
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i installed this little app and it works great, shortcuts in the programs folder. Ran option 3 and it cleared 11Mb of ram, 68Mb free. Thanks guys for the great app.
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You're Welcome! (ALL)
My recommendation for you all is to use Level 2, because Level 3 is time-consuming.
Dear friends,
Please let me know the cons and pros of Android on Blackstone (Touch HD).
- Camera
- Game
- Appz
- Smoothness
- Speed
- Bluetooth
- Wifi
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it depends on build but you should try out the new FRX07 it has most (if not all) of the things working very well,i personally am using GBX0A which is alpha version but the way i compiled it somehow gave it enormous stability and reliability....you should try for yourself and see if it fits you...
One other larger setback with Android would be battery standby. It's quite poor, I think, at the moment. Efforts are being made for increasing standby but I don't think our Blac is targeted for that.
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it depends on build but you should try out the new FRX07 it has most (if not all) of the things working very well,i personally am using GBX0A which is alpha version but the way i compiled it somehow gave it enormous stability and reliability....you should try for yourself and see if it fits you...
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Can you describe what you mean by "the way I compiled it"?
There is much newer code in the GB tree than what is in the release for GBX0A, so if you built the system image yourself, that might explain it .
- Camera - Works on Blackstone. Current Kernels have support for camera.
- Game - We have okay resolution so games with WVGA are not problems for us but problem is that resolution is quite high for Adreno 130.. So quite lacking of performance
- Appz - They are very good.
- Smoothness - With Jit + My kernel its working good (Neocore 29.8 Due to 30 FPS cap.. but you cant except that every app will work smoothly..
- Speed Its okay even from Sd card.. But i told you my reason..
- Bluetooth Pairing/sending is working. But A2DP is not working
- Wifi Seems to work fine.. Sometimes lower speed but its okay..
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Can you describe what you mean by "the way I compiled it"?
There is much newer code in the GB tree than what is in the release for GBX0A, so if you built the system image yourself, that might explain it .
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it's the particular kernel and rootfs i used...i really have a daytime long battery and rock solid build...just don't remember which ones...maybe i could provide the img so you can check it
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it's the particular kernel and rootfs i used...i really have a daytime long battery and rock solid build...just don't remember which ones...maybe i could provide the img so you can check it
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Well the kernel is easy to figure out - in Android, Settings -> About -> kernel version. If in WinMo, just look at the name of the modules file...
rootfs is a little harder. Date/timestamp can help, assuming you extracted it directly to your card. Otherwise... I guess md5, but you really think there's a particular kernel&rootfs that are just completely bulletproof? Sounds like snake oil to me .
For me the biggest problems for daily use are:
- Bluetooth: Calls and A2DP are not working. I have long hours on the car...
- Call speaker: it's not working.
- Music stuttering: improved on the FRX07, but not solved (there is a patch on an old kernel but it has not been updated).
- Random freezes and SODs.
I also miss some WM6.5 apps and some Manila 2.5 features
The pros list is long, so better to run from SD and have the best of both worlds. it is a pitty that we can't run both at the same time...
It's a pity that we can run both at the same time...?
I'm all for NAND, but until Android is stable, I think it's great that we can run both at the same time. That way if there's something you just have to have that WinMo provides, you can just boot back to it...
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Well the kernel is easy to figure out - in Android, Settings -> About -> kernel version. If in WinMo, just look at the name of the modules file...
rootfs is a little harder. Date/timestamp can help, assuming you extracted it directly to your card. Otherwise... I guess md5, but you really think there's a particular kernel&rootfs that are just completely bulletproof? Sounds like snake oil to me .
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i know how to check the current kernel but the thing is that old one did something when i first ran haret with it...although i'm not sure if rootfs leaves any trace of previous commits,so it may have nothing to do with rootfs
Thank you dear friends.
I will try FRX07.
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Uh... what? I only see childish comments from you my friend.
Don't tell people to go to another site, that's childish. If you have a problem with me, then ignore me.
Some apps but not many.
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I have a question. I installes FRX07 on my blackstone and everything seems to work oké, but the sound. I don't seem to be able to get any sound out of the device, no ringtone (with incoming calls), no sounds with music, no sounds with video etc. Does anyone have any idea?
Regards,
Oasis2000
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I have a question. I installes FRX07 on my blackstone and everything seems to work oké, but the sound. I don't seem to be able to get any sound out of the device, no ringtone (with incoming calls), no sounds with music, no sounds with video etc. Does anyone have any idea?
Regards,
Oasis2000
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Hrm, I have heard of this issue before. Unfortunately I don't remember a specific resolution.
I would try to reboot, see if that changes anything. Also, check the volume - make sure it's turned up (there's several different volume controls, check Settings -> Sound).
Assuming those simple things don't solve it, you might want to try the 'grabbing at straws' method. First, I would simply delete the data.img and let it create a new one on boot. Let the phone sit after you see the lock screen for a few minutes. Then try to use it, try to preview a ringtone. Still failing? Format the SD card with the HP Tool (full format, FAT32) and I would start over completely with the directions in FRX07.1 thread.
If it's still failing, try another SD card. Rinse & repeat. Still failing!?!? Well, I'll probably have to send some logs to the developers, because I don't know what else could be done to triage. Something else must be awry. Pull system and kernel logs with the app GetLogs - in AndroidApps\Other.
Not much...
Hey man,
You won't really miss much (if anything) switching to android.
- Camera = ok but better in winmo
- Game = some work perfectly, some are laggy and others plain old just won't work
- Appz = ditto above
- Smoothness = depends on how much you want to fidddle with different configurations
- Speed = ditto above but also varys from build to build
- Bluetooth = haven't tested..
- Wifi = works well
Running Android off the sdcard isn't really isnt all that bad apart from the fact that sometimes though it can be a bit fiddly getting everything to work together for a smooth experience builds, kernels, gapps, resizing partititions.... ect but once thats all over i think it beats winmo
and plus if your a fiddly guy (i dont know why you would be here if you wernt ) then you will enjoy working it all out