How to optimize your HTC Shift - Shift General

I've been using it for two weeks and I love this little machine!
However, I sometimes find it quite slow (I usually open two apps at the same time) and turn on Wi-fi and GPRS.
Anybody can share your experience on how to optimize your Shift / Vista?

shu_sum said:
Anybody can share your experience on how to optimize your Shift / Vista?
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sure, one of the plans of shift project is to collect shift specific and also non specific tweaks to vista
I'm still on my little holiday but ltxda is looking into that
here's some generic ones though common sense will already tell you, but just in case:
- disable stupid services - though HTC already did some of that work, still worth checking that out. funny thing here: shagctrl relies on windows audio so leave those services alone.
- disable window animations, the vista theme itself doesn't require much resources but any kind of animation and other vista fluff will have a serious impact on GUI performance.
- disable any other features in control panel that you don't need. I heartily recommend you check out all advanced settings too
- remove all useless tray icons and startup services / other startup apps
- use apps that are light on resources - my preferred email and IM clients are such programs, also opera is a bit faster than the default IE7... definitely faster than firefox 2 (sorry).
that way I get 500MB free ram easily and near 3 hours on battery with some wifi usage.
ofcourse the ultimate optimization is ... snapvue

Hi Cmonex,
500mb of RAM free eh? i'd love that... best i've got is about 400mb... is there any chance you could embellish the above a bit more and give us a bit more detail of what you did please?
Thanks!

cmonex said:
- disable stupid services -
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The chalence there for me is that I have no idea what service I need an witch I don't. I am clueless about what exactly they do...
Could you list the ones that you disabled? and what they normaly do?
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

Check here - http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=513758
for a very useful post on which services do what, and whether they are safe to disable.

Pantaloonie said:
Check here - http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=513758
for a very useful post on which services do what, and whether they are safe to disable.
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Great Thanks!
That is a big list! Just what I asked for. Thanks

Just for info, I found that by typing 'disable vista services' into Google.
Google really is your best friend.
Lots of people I know think that I know everything about computers - I don't (yet ) but I do know that Google knows all. All you need to know is how to ask the question.
There is an excellent tutorial on getting the best from Google here.
note - I'm not having a dig at anyone with this post, just thought some might find the info useful.

I guess you're right...
Thx for googling for me.

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WM5.o Compatible close button needed!

has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
mackaby007 said:
has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
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I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
Thanks guys. I'll try them both and let you know how I get on.
Damn!! My Jasjar is a Rocket!!
sub69 said:
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
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sub69: I don't know what kind of coding they used in that software you recommended, but it has boosted refresh rates and performance in general by at least 30%!! I know this sounds crazy but it's true! My opinion has completely changed about the speed of the Jasjar. It seriously Rocks! I couldn't care less if it doesn't stay this way, because it shows me conclusively, that future ROMs' will probably address the issues I have had thus far.
I needed this. Thanks a bunch sub69; best link I've had with regards to Universal software.
OK 1 gripe only: I've lost my two soft buttons on the bottom bar (any ideas?). It comes back and stays operational after a soft reset, but as soon as I use the 'close all' option of the program, I loose the soft keys! Damn..there's always a hitch!
Another positive though, the speed boost remains even after I have exited the program and revert to standard WM5.0 launcher!
P.S. I had at least 12 programs running simultaneously with no slow downs at all and 15 megs of Memory still available (tried to run out of memory, But couldn't). Very pleased at the moment, this is what I was expecting from the HTC Universal!! I'll test extensively before I comment further.
Thanks again sub69, u da Man!!
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
Re:getting better all the time!!
sub69 said:
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
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Still cannot believe it!! It's still going strong. Sussed the soft button thingy:Under start (GSPocket)/options/settings...uncheck the 2 tabs for'use exten task close' & 'Use Today skin'. That's it. It runs absolutely perfectly for me & with no need for amended bitmaps too! It fits right in wih my red or blue border themes (I only use my own jpegs now instead of themes - in the hope that I get no performance issues.....so far so good). Under menu settind tab I only select close all & setting (which gives me quick access to all settings in WM5.0..personal & system) and under 'click' tab I leave it as default 'Menu'. I'm so impressed with this software, I didn't think non-specific WM5 software coul be this good!
That site you recommended is also tops!
This software is so good that I must put up a new thread to inform all of your wonder find. I just hope all who try it get the same experience I'm getting. Thanks again sub69....I don't even feel the need for the next ROM update/grade...though I won't be turning it away.
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
MagicButton (mbutton) works with batterymeter
Hi All,
I installed MagicButton (freeware) om my K-Jam. It works so far!
Cheers,
CookieM
pocketpcfreewares.com is great! They do an RSSfeed showing all new and updated software, too, so its a permanent fixture as a "Live Bookmark" on my Firefox bookmarks toolbar.
I must fiddle with some .bmp's for GSPocketMagic++...
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
It's simpler than you think
trapper said:
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
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Carnivor said:
CJSnet said:
Which CAB file do I install?
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GSPMagic.xscaleE.CAB for english on JJ
Sub69, nice start button, now the flawless look sets it off
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That's the file you need to download for the Jasjar, then if you have an SD card reader, you can transfer it directly to it and install the .cab file by selecting it! If you don't have a card reader, let's hope you have a bluetooth dongle, as it's a small file then you can bluetooth it over. However if you have no problems with your activesync connection, just use that to dump the .cab file on your storage card somewhere or into 'My Documents' on the jasjar.
It's not complicated.
Read the posts craigiecraigie4!
craigiecraigie4 said:
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
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craigiecraigie4 said:
I can confirm that this programme is small and perfectly funcitonal for closing apps. If you're battling with PocketPlus for some reason, then this is definitely the way to go.
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mackaby007 said:
For anyone like sub69 who have experienced relatively few problems with their universal, you might not notice any difference, but for anyone who is still suffering performance issues
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Read the following thread and you'll see that I had performance issues with my jasjar, hence these posts:
Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30443
ramram said:
I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
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Good App ! made my day, very useful and simple
Cheers
hrb
Yep, using it myself now - but no speed change over PocketPlus (even after hard reset to remove PP). Using it cos I like menu and PP didn;t offer all that much more that other apps don;t give me.

New to XDA EXEC

Hello one and all.
I have been looking at this forum for about 1 week and i'm still none the wiser. This may be because I have no idea what im doing and I am a little worried about making rom changes as I have no experinace of this.
I have a 02 exec. Which i am happy with but its a bit slower than I thought it would be. The phone seams to mess around when answering.
I have booted it up as normal on the basic setting.
A few questions that I have :-
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
Any advise would be good. If it could be given in a format my 2 year old could understand that would be good for me.
Thank you in advance
You'll find a wealth of information on each of your questions by browsing & searching the posts already on this forum.
thanks moandal that's why I posted.
1 post says basic setup another say corporate. 1 post says hack this that and the other. another says not to.
I'm new to pocket pc.
these forums do not make it clear what is best.
example radio version 1.06 or 1.08 at least 3 posts on here saying each one is better than the other. I have no idea.
all I was asking for is some guidance as to which set up has worked best for people.
@CRJL you've one up on me mate - I did not even know this thing had two modes!!!
BTW, why is that? Someone mentioned somewhere a corporate password - how to enter this & why would I want it.
BTW CRJL, I agree with you, these little devices are very confusing, espcially because the front end software (WM5) is soooooooo labourious!
Andy
when you hard reset the thing. after all the rom stuff loads up it gives you the choice of basic set up or corporate. it selects basic automatically after 20secs.
if you tell it corporate then you have to put the code 0506 in. this the uninstalls some stuff off the exec. you loose mms and all the gprs an 3g settings for conecting to the net. (i don't know what else it does) some of the people in the forums say it makes the exec faster. I could not really notice any difference.
you loose a few applications as well.
until I learn more I'm staying in basic.
I find these forums are for more advanced users so the simple questions tend to get missed. (im talking abot my first post) still not had a reply answering my questions
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What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
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for this you should first make a hard reset (carefull, with hard reset you will loose all data!) by pressing both app buttons and reset at the same time.
When it starts up, after the installation countdown shows up you should make a reset to stop the automatic setup.
Now you have a machine, which is only basic setup. See how you like the things in there.
After you now enough about this, you can make same hard reset again and start the corporate setup. Then see, how you like this setup.
After this do same with basic setup.
In total you have then an idea, what you can have with the 3 different setups.
Now you can decide, which of the 3 setups you want to start with. After this, you should read the posts about Extended Rom, how to unlock it, which programs are in there etc. Then you get an idea for example how to install some software in the basic setup.
Also, you can add some programs from other Roms. For example I have an MDA Pro and I added the I-Mate Backgammon game to my setup.
Try out and see what customizations you want and need, which you do not want.
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What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
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Basically, this does not really make difference. Forget about reg changes. Performance depends on running programs and setup - see above.
As far as I know, o2 installs some app in the basic setup, which makes the device slow. As I never tried o2 rom, I do not know, if this is true.
CRJL said:
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
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read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
here also I recommend to try out the software and just keep the ones you like.
In total I would recommend you to create a directory on your PC where you put all the setup and cab files, which you want to have in your final setup. After trying out all, make a hard reset again and install the files from this directory. This prevents any junks to be left behind from your previous tries.
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VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
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I think, you get more problems than it helps. Some programs appear too small on the screen. And when you make a Romupdate this does not work anymore.
I recommend not to install any VGA Patches. Instead just set the text size to more small and search in this forum for some registry hacks to change system font etc. and see if you like it, when the font is more small (this is good for Opera or PIE as you can view complete page!)
Nice reply, thanks mate!
erm
yes
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what are the ><ahem, ahem>< "app buttons"
Andy (thicky wicky Blacky wacky Adder)
thank you. I will give the 3 setups a go. I did read that if you soft reset before the counter that video calling does not work.
will give it a go and see what happens I'm sure there will be a cab file on here to sort it out.
anyone wishing to add any pearls of wisdom fee free. I'm learning more and more all the time.
app buttons: the buttons on the keyboard, which have changing functions. these functions are shown at the bottom of the screen. These buttons can be found to the right and left of the red and green call buttons on the keyboard.
about video calling: yes, this feature is installed after you switch on first your device. it is activated with one cab file. If you can find out which cab file this is, you can install it manually in the basic setup.

Stupid Noob! Needs Advice

Yep the title is right-
I've searched the forums countless times and read the wiki. Although i am more than technically experienced to perform the "upgrades" I cant quite nail down the step by step procedures for my device and the upgrades i desire.
Feel free to rip me a new one- but please direct me down the right path.
Oh i'm not in any kind of hurry.
I have a Cingy/ATT 8525
and I want to run Black and I want all the worthy tweaks that
allow one to have an extended array of functionality.
Thanks in advance and sorry for creating clutter.
Hi
I dont understand what you are asking - are you asking how to flash the black 2.5 rom? The instuctions to do so are in the black 2.5 thread, and also on the RUU installer package that you can download.
All tweaks are also included in the black 2.5 thread.
Its quite a simple flash process.
1) Backup all your personal data as your the device will be formatted (not including the microSD card)
2) Connect your phone via activesync on a winxp pc
3) Run the installer
4) In approx 5 mins, its all done
hi nmonger
thanks for the advice.
What i am trying to accomplish is get a fully tweaked 8525- or as damn
close as humanly possible.
realtor said:
hi nmonger
thanks for the advice.
What i am trying to accomplish is get a fully tweaked 8525- or as damn
close as humanly possible.
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I think that first you have to figure out what do you want with your phone...there are a lot of Tweaks and changes and improves you can do to your 8125, but not all of them could be usefull for you or ...
My personal sugestion is that read again the forum and decide wich things want to change and the go for them... everyone here can help you and there are already a lot of threads whit step-to-step info about upgrading and Tweaking your device.
I could also sugest that you follow the upgrading guide here on the forum and first upgrade the bootloader, then the OS and the Radio... and after that you will have a better phone and the time to look for more changes to apply...
regards man
mablan
realtor said:
hi nmonger
thanks for the advice.
What i am trying to accomplish is get a fully tweaked 8525- or as damn
close as humanly possible.
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really depends on what you want to use the device for. upgrading is easy [if you read and follow the guides], and the available roms on this site are pretty damn stable (for me at least). Depending on which rom you install, you will need different tweaks, add-ons. For example, for your 8525, at a minimum, you will want the cingular settings (which some roms bake in) and the keyboard fix. Everyone has their favorite installs. For me, a corporate user of the 8525 on Cingular, I have installed the following (keep in mind this is a subjective list) ... I don't watch video or listen to music much with this device, so I have not tweaked it out for these things:
Must haves (for me)
Goodlink
Bandswitch 1.2.3
BatteryStatus today plugin
Cingular Settings (by wpbear)
ComButtong-Toggle-Vibrate-Fix
8525 Keyboard Patch
Cyberon Voice Dialer (I use it, and I know it is lame)
Pocket IE Card Cache (to cache on my SD Card)
Acrobat Reader LE
Speed patch (buzzing for Black 2.5 when I run that ROM)
MPM patch (for Custel 1.3 when I run that ROM)
Fun/nice to haves
GoogleMaps
Picsel Browser
o2plus
Just because I am a mac person at heart
Slidelock [slide 1.06] by A_C
iPhone app by Grumps
Others will have their opinions
weinson said:
Just because I am a mac person at heart
Slidelock [slide 1.06] by A_C
iPhone app by Grumps
Others will have their opinions
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Brethren the devil is among us - repent and ye may be saved!!!
The power of Gates compel you.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Brethren the devil is among us - repent and ye may be saved!!!
The power of Gates compel you.
Mike
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The newton only carried me so far
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weinson said:
The newton only carried me so far
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Mike
mablan said:
I think that first you have to figure out what do you want with your phone...there are a lot of Tweaks and changes and improves you can do to your 8125, but not all of them could be usefull for you or ...
My personal sugestion is that read again the forum and decide wich things want to change and the go for them... everyone here can help you and there are already a lot of threads whit step-to-step info about upgrading and Tweaking your device.
I could also sugest that you follow the upgrading guide here on the forum and first upgrade the bootloader, then the OS and the Radio... and after that you will have a better phone and the time to look for more changes to apply...
regards man
mablan
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Thanks for your suggestions i've already begun the re-read
weinson said:
really depends on what you want to use the device for. upgrading is easy [if you read and follow the guides], and the available roms on this site are pretty damn stable (for me at least). Depending on which rom you install, you will need different tweaks, add-ons. For example, for your 8525, at a minimum, you will want the cingular settings (which some roms bake in) and the keyboard fix. Everyone has their favorite installs. For me, a corporate user of the 8525 on Cingular, I have installed the following (keep in mind this is a subjective list) ... I don't watch video or listen to music much with this device, so I have not tweaked it out for these things:
Must haves (for me)
Goodlink
Bandswitch 1.2.3
BatteryStatus today plugin
Cingular Settings (by wpbear)
ComButtong-Toggle-Vibrate-Fix
8525 Keyboard Patch
Cyberon Voice Dialer (I use it, and I know it is lame)
Pocket IE Card Cache (to cache on my SD Card)
Acrobat Reader LE
Speed patch (buzzing for Black 2.5 when I run that ROM)
MPM patch (for Custel 1.3 when I run that ROM)
Fun/nice to haves
GoogleMaps
Picsel Browser
o2plus
Just because I am a mac person at heart
Slidelock [slide 1.06] by A_C
iPhone app by Grumps
Others will have their opinions
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Interesting list you have there weinson.
So i have already stated on my journey here is what i have so far, its not a long list but i suppose its a good starting point.
WM6 Pro Black 2.5
Radio Version 1.40.30.00
What i need my 8525 to be is as highly efficient as possible i need the apps to open quickly and be easily found, i do a little traveling so i need my music and maybe a video or two. Web browsing to be effortless because i need to get on the internet for my job (i am a real estate agent) and i need the best WiFi connectivity available in addition to the 3g connection because sometimes im in Wifi enable buildings and cant get a "cell signal", thats also why i am looking at VOIP options and lastly i am searching for a non-windows push service, i'm really going to miss my BB until i can get a reliable solution.
I want to thank everyone for there help so far and the members for this forum ive been lurking for a while and am very impressed with its diligently helpful atmosphere.
Keep sending those suggestions- I will continue my search.
A new noob is here.
I have a battery question.Battery on my vario 2 goes up and down from 10 to 20 and not to 12 or 15 or any value in between.Is that normal?
Plus i am using coolcamera is there any settings to have maximum performance?
thx in advance....
max414 said:
A new noob is here.
I have a battery question.Battery on my vario 2 goes up and down from 10 to 20 and not to 12 or 15 or any value in between.Is that normal?
Plus i am using coolcamera is there any settings to have maximum performance?
thx in advance....
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Just on the battery point - yes 10 / 20 /30 is normal and so far no way to have smaller steps.
Mike

Laptop Replacement

Hello I have just recently began looking into the idea of a UMPC. I look at the stats on these and they seem decent at least some of them with 1 gig of ram and what not. Can these devices function as a laptop/desktop/pda replacement or have they not made it that far yet?
Device is intresting but it is no voice capable and no built GPS
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/htc-shift-the-cellphone-company-finally-goes-umpc/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsItEPFEn8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3VAAm1GrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuNOV2StRog
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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It has now been confirmed that the shift can make voice calls.
See the thread in the Athena forum for a link to a new video showing the phone pad on the shift.
ive seen a UMPC with the built in GPS and the voice functionality. Im just asking if this can run all the programs that a pc can. Like will i be able to active snyc a PPC. I have stumbled upon an interesting site that has quite a bit of affordable UMPCs...
http://www.dynamism.com/htc-shift/pricing.shtml
Shift is a bit pricey on this site.
Hell no!
It's a glorified comms device - that's all.
If you think even a little bit that it can replace even a fraction of your PC usage, you're gonna be very dissapointed and waste a ton of cash.
Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no.
This was much covered in the days of the Universal, and things have not improved much I'm afraid.
Forget it! Can't be clearer.
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
HELLO
Rudegar said:
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
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yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
spzero said:
yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
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do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
koala996 said:
do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
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just check out the athena upgrading forums and read the thread on shift making phone calls
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
thaihugo said:
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
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wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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aka shift
Pawel062 said:
wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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i'm not talking about ADDING a phone or a gps ... but about downloading "THE" cab you are talking about... and installing this cab.. I have used the Shift a little .. and it seems that there is no way to access the SnapVue ... just use the snapvue.. but impossible to see something behind it ... no explorer, no I.E. ... and I think that it can't be synchronized with a computer.
surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Hey no problem just hope it can be cracked and hacked away at till we get a usable device
I want to buy one... is it avalible yet. i saw something about it being released in europe already...

[CONCEPT] SMS Counter

Hello Folks,
It’s been around a month since I’ve joined xda-developers and I have had a chance to get some of the best stuff for my HTC Touch Diamond from here. I think it’s time for me to return the favor and give back something to the community.
SMS Counter
For some time now I have been searching for a *FREE* application that basically can tell me how many SMSes I’ve sent. Thus, if I have a free message sending limit in my plan, I can know if I’ve exceeded it or not. Unfortunately, I could not find any. The only good application that I know currently doing this is the 'Efficasoft smartphone sms counter'. (Though, If there is such application and if I’ve missed it, someone please bring it to my attention)
And thus, I thought of making one!
Possible Features
I spent some thinking about it and I figured that I can add a few more features to make this application a bit more, well, feature rich. The next post lists the features that I have currently is my mind. Based on your suggestions/feedback, I will change the list.
Development Platform
I will be making this application in .Net Compact Framework v3.5 / C#. Thus, people wishing to use this app will need the Compact Framework installed on their devices.
Devices
At the moment I’m planning to make this only for the HTC Touch Diamond. Once the app is a success and if it has a good demand, I can plan on porting it to other devices as well.
Pricing
If everything goes as planned and if this application sees the light of the day, it will be available for everyone to download for FREE, ALWAYS!
So my fellow community members, please think about this and give me your valuable feedback. I want to know your suggestions, your ideas. Do we really need this app in the first place? Is there something better already available? If we need it, how can we make it acceptable to a wider range of audience? Do we add more features or do we just put the most basic features? Lot of questions and your answers are welcome.
Thank you!
[CONCEPT] SMS Counter - Possible Features
Below are the possible features that I am currently thinking of implementing:
Determine number of sent and received messages.
Filter options: Within a date range, to/from specific person, etc.
Trends: Whom I’m messaging most and who is messaging me the most.
Cost calculation based on plan but to be override-able for any given month.
Suggestions welcome!
there is hs++ wich, among many others, have option of counting sent and recived mesages
but i like your idea
to list of features i`d suggest to add
autoresponse (to contacts from adress book when i cannot answer or read message or recive call)
setting message to send at precise time
PowerSMS is one such software. But it is not a freeware.
www.trinketsoftware.com
of course i know PowerSMS
it also has a lot more cool features
but, as you mentioned, it`s not freeware
ja-marcin said:
of course i know PowerSMS
it also has a lot more cool features
but, as you mentioned, it`s not freeware
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And it has it's own limitations too. For e.g. I would prefer a graphical chart when I'm seeing statistics, this is something which I would like to incorporate in my own app.
Yet, it seems the response for this is pretty much zero and people are not very keen to have this application.
I like the Idea of the statistics (with chart! ) sounds funny to know who gets the most sms from me (and to see who don't linke me and never or seldom sends me sms back )
I think the features are okay for now keep it as simple as possible
is it going to work in the background ? i mean consume memory and cpu power all time.
i am looking for a call time and sms counter, something simple that i can reset every month (maybe even with an option to reset automatically at a given date each month).
it was built in with my sony erricson T650 and maybe any other phone. but nothing simple at the diamond (havnt seen any sms counter built in).
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I like the Idea of the statistics (with chart! ) sounds funny to know who gets the most sms from me (and to see who don't linke me and never or seldom sends me sms back )
I think the features are okay for now keep it as simple as possible
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Thank you for your feedback tomoffel, I'll keep your suggestions in mind.
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is it going to work in the background ? i mean consume memory and cpu power all time.
i am looking for a call time and sms counter, something simple that i can reset every month (maybe even with an option to reset automatically at a given date each month).
it was built in with my sony erricson T650 and maybe any other phone. but nothing simple at the diamond (havnt seen any sms counter built in).
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No, it's not going to work in the background, the user will have the option to manually update stats after he starts the program or they will be calculated automatically when the program starts; whichever the user prefers.
Yes, I can add the option of resetting the stats manually or on a date specified by user, nice suggestions ice2k2, thanks.
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Thank you for your feedback tomoffel, I'll keep your suggestions in mind.
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Thank you too
trivedivishal said:
No, it's not going to work in the background, the user will have the option to manually update stats after he starts the program or they will be calculated automatically when the program starts; whichever the user prefers.
Yes, I can add the option of resetting the stats manually or on a date specified by user, nice suggestions ice2k2, thanks.
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That sounds good, just calculate when the user is ready to use, not always in the background more free Ram on our Diamonds! The reset on a specified date is also a really nice idea, yes!
Whats about a "constant" statistic, that shows the statistic from begining, and we can seperate in to monthly? So we can see in wich month we texted the most? And we could use the overall stats to calculate an wich (week)day we send the most sms
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Whats about a "constant" statistic, that shows the statistic from begining, and we can seperate in to monthly? So we can see in wich month we texted the most? And we could use the overall stats to calculate an wich (week)day we send the most sms
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You mean maitaining the statistics cumulatively? I don't see how that's possible with the 'reset' option. When a users resets the data, all previous stats are lost and that's its exact purpose. Though, feell free to correct me if i'm wrong and explain what you want in detail, possibly with an example. Thanks,
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You mean maitaining the statistics cumulatively? I don't see how that's possible with the 'reset' option. When a users resets the data, all previous stats are lost and that's its exact purpose. Though, feell free to correct me if i'm wrong and explain what you want in detail, possibly with an example. Thanks,
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Like in the car. you have a constant counter of your km/miles, and a "small" one for the time you go to refuel.
so lets say, I want to know how many sms I send since I load my prepaid card (but also a constant statistic )
small counter/reset function = time since reload the prepaid-card / refuel the car
background (full)statistic = overalltime statistic with monts/(week)day stats / km/miles since you bought the car
hope thats make my sugesstion clear
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Like in the car. you have a constant counter of your km/miles, and a "small" one for the time you go to refuel.
so lets say, I want to know how many sms I send since I load my prepaid card (but also a constant statistic )
small counter/reset function = time since reload the prepaid-card / refuel the car
background (full)statistic = overalltime statistic with monts/(week)day stats / km/miles since you bought the car
hope thats make my sugesstion clear
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Thanks for the analogy tomoffel, it's much clear now.
Yes, this feature will be available, though I'll have to work out the exact mechanics of it. Thanks for the suggestion!
sounds good
If I can help you, let me know, I have a hermes(qvga) wit 6.1(crc) running on it, with around 6000 sms (atm not active) and a Diamond(VGA) with 6.1(Gen.Y) and around 600 sms.
Thank you!
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Thanks for the analogy tomoffel, it's much clear now.
Yes, this feature will be available, though I'll have to work out the exact mechanics of it. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I think its simple, just use two counters: one is "resetable" the other is not.
i guess it means double the data and double the reading/writing cycles but im sure there is a way to optimise it with simple procedure.
tomoffel said:
sounds good
If I can help you, let me know, I have a hermes(qvga) wit 6.1(crc) running on it, with around 6000 sms (atm not active) and a Diamond(VGA) with 6.1(Gen.Y) and around 600 sms.
Thank you!
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Great, thanks tomoffel. I'll plan to start development on it by the first week of September and have a beta ready by the end of second week. I'll keep you posted.
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I think its simple, just use two counters: one is "resetable" the other is not.
i guess it means double the data and double the reading/writing cycles but im sure there is a way to optimise it with simple procedure.
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Yes, I've got the idea. I'll have to find out a way to optimize it, which I will.
Thanks ice2k2!
Sounds good , really looking forward to this app
hi, any updates on the progress?
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there is hs++ wich, among many others, have option of counting sent and recived mesages
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I love the ideas in this thread, but what is hs++? do you have a link?
thanks in advance
MG

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