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Guys guys!
I posted this at PointUI forum aswell!
Listen up, is there anyone here that knows how to skin PocketCM?
It will be great, and i think a good idea, if we can try and design a PocketCM skin to fit PointUI?
Blue with white stuff in it??
I saw that PocketCM is quite skinnable.
What do you guys think? That way we can integrate PocketCM to fit PointUI?
I think it will be great! Any toughts?
skinning's not the problem. But scroll direction is.
E_Shinobi said:
skinning's not the problem. But scroll direction is.
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It doesnt really matter....
Let PointUI scroll as it is. And Pocket CM as it is.
If someone can just skin it, to get it to fit with PointUI, it will look great......
And as we all know, pocket CM is great, it will be a nice compliment for each other......
- Grab an already excisting skin
- Change the extension .cmt to .zip and unzip it with winrar or something
- Change the background with this background: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355766
- Change the colours of every .png to a colour you want with photoshop or someting (in photoshop use ctr+u)
- zip it and change it to .cmt again
Good luck
Hope you like it!
It need some explaining:
- Extra large contact, with large pictures
- Removed the "filter" button, I never use it.. (it is still there in the settings.ini)
Still to do:
- Adjust some of the colors like, highlight buttons, grey bar at the top, grey highlight of the letters at the side...
Please give me comments...
I'm thinking about making a skin like the phone-log in PointUI, but I'm not sure it is possible in PocketCM to create a "always on top" image at the top of the screen...
Great
you did a great job, i will try the theme myself. thnx
Daanmannetje: great job but need finalize this theme
Ok, here is the improved version,
Do any of you know if it is possible to change the color of the selection?
Now PocketCM uses inverted colors, but it is ugly!
(Blue buttons at the bottom turn yellow if pressed)
I really like the concept. Recently fell in love with PointUI, and have been a big fan of PocketCM. My PocketCM started acting up after changing to this theme though. Soft reset my device, and still the same issue. Looks really good tho!
there's this one being develped: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356850
My theme works without problems on v0.18, but can give some problems on 0.16 or 0.17...
Daanmannetje said:
Ok, here is the improved version,
Do any of you know if it is possible to change the color of the selection?
Now PocketCM uses inverted colors, but it is ugly!
(Blue buttons at the bottom turn yellow if pressed)
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Thanks alot man!
This is sweet!!! Now PocketCM looks like PointUI!
Time to play! I really appreciate it!!!
great work daanmannetje! im working on a skin 2, wish me good luck
good luck!
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My theme works without problems on v0.18, ...
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I love it, it works perfect in V0.18, thx.
and for vga devices.. could some on create 1 to?
I thought it was working automaticly on VGA screens with 0.18...
It is hard for me to adjust a theme for VGA, because I don't have a VGA device...
Daanmannetje said:
Hope you like it!
It need some explaining:
- Extra large contact, with large pictures
- Removed the "filter" button, I never use it.. (it is still there in the settings.ini)
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Daanmannetje,
Would you consider adding an alternative skin with the "filter" button. I use it all the time?
Thanks,
cg
It is pretty easy to do yourself:
- open the zip file
- edit the settings.ini file (notepad)
- search for the part with the 0-33 33-66 and 66-100%
- the filter-icon is still there, I think i gave it 100-100% or something
- change it so it is 0-25 25-50 50-75 75-100
Have to admit, first thing I did was put the filter button back, which is a shame as the buttons background is wrong then and it ruins the skin.
really? I'll take a look at the button then...
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you were right, here is the new button. Just add it to the .zip-file!
Hi guys,
I just got an idea about keyboard for PPC... that will be more finger friendly, PLUS, screen friendly.
Would it be possible to build something like FULL SCREEN keyboard overlay the screen, but still able to see the running software and able to see words is inputting? Just like a transparent keyboard layout on the screen, but doesn't really eat up the screen space. Not sure if I describe well enough. What do you guys think?
I am not a programmer, so I can only hand off my idea and pass the development to any volunteer programmer who has the knowledge and ability to make it.
- andre
Sounds like a great idea
Post your suggestion on the PocketCM.com forum and maybe the keyboard over there could be adapted.
As many of the screens on WM6 are designed for the built-in kb, the dialogue boxes can get cut off if you use an opaque kb.
Thanks. I've done so. I hope to see something like this one day. =)
That is actually a very good idea. I wonder how difficult it would be to do? I know nothing about SIP programming, heh.
Unless I am mistaken, it's impossible to do that as WM6 does not support transparency or graphical layers
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Unless I am mistaken, it's impossible to do that as WM6 does not support transparency or graphical layers
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How the S2U2 volume is working? It's transparent if you wish
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How the S2U2 volume is working? It's transparent if you wish
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I don't think it is... All programs that appear transparent (and there are many, throttlelock, mortbuttons, s2u2 volume etc etc) just take a screenshot of the background and draw over that. Which means that they just appear to be transparent - if things change beneath, you cannot see them, what you see is the screen like it was when you launched the program.
I hope someone corrects me on that, but I am pretty sure it works like that
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I don't think it is... All programs that appear transparent (and there are many, throttlelock, mortbuttons, s2u2 volume etc etc) just take a screenshot of the background and draw over that. Which means that they just appear to be transparent - if things change beneath, you cannot see them, what you see is the screen like it was when you launched the program.
I hope someone corrects me on that, but I am pretty sure it works like that
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So make it take a screenshot every second or so...?(Dynamo 3 does that, not for transparency but for thumbnails, but it does that)
I don't know if it's doable. It's easy to get the current screen (what WM is currently painting), but not that easy to get a screenshot of a background program, or the desktop. Programs that do that (eg, CapSure) switch to the program you want to take a screenshot of first, so even if you could switch to the program, take a screenie, and get back to where you were in 1 second, the screen would "flicker" all the time.
About Dynamo, I didn't check the latest versions of Dynamo3, but maybe it takes screenshots of the running (front) program? And I don't think it takes screens every second!
Even if I am wrong (very probable), and it's doable, I don't think it would be very practical! For locking programs, this would totally ruin baterry life. For a "transparent" keyboard, 1 per sec would not be enough, and it would probably ruin responsiveness.
Then again, I never tried to play with screenshots and fake transparency for a WM program, so who knows! Maybe! O_O
I've tried to do that for ThrottleLock. My first choice was using the WM_PRINT window message, but it's not supported for windows mobile ... other choice was to send the WM_PAINT message or a refresh and trying to get the DC associated with the window to use BitBlt to copy it to a target Bitmap... Not luck as the window will not be painted while it's not visible... As far as I know it's not possible... If anyone figures out another way to get it please let me know
todaylife can do that all. fully transparent pngs over a changing background.look at my screenshots of my skins, everything is working in background. dont know how dazzlingdazz made it but its true.
In TodayLife, it's the app itself that's painting the background... So it's easy to paint other stuff on top and still show the main screen underneath. Unfortunately not the same thing we want other applications & wm interface to show beneath the transparency.
Android supports multi-layer drawing for applications, let's hope wm7 has it too.
Some 'marshall wait cursors' are transparent. But I don't know anything how they're working.
I had this idea myself about a year ago, but thought that it is impossible to make a transparent sip, because it is not displayed over a program. It's under it. I don't know how to say in English, but I thought the sip reduce the fullscreen-size.
But maybe someone can write a program that is no real sip but transparent over other programs.
I mean like the phone pad, it is no real sip but used as an input method.
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you can guess what I mean.
ReinerK said:
Some 'marshall wait cursors' are transparent. But I don't know anything how they're working.
I had this idea myself about a year ago, but thought that it is impossible to make a transparent sip, because it is not displayed over a program. It's under it. I don't know how to say in English, but I thought the sip reduce the fullscreen-size.
But maybe someone can write a program that is no real sip but transparent over other programs.
I mean like the phone pad, it is no real sip but used as an input method.
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you can guess what I mean.
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Marshall waitcursors work with screenshots too.
The SIP doesn't reduce the screen size, some programs however can detect it and re-draw itself, making it seem like the screen size is reduced - but not all, it doesn't work like that I think
There are already fullscreen keyboards over other programs, that's not the problem, the problem is the transparency
excellent idea.
transparency is supported.
Look at RetroPPC clock. the only thing that I had to do to make my clock transparent, was to use PNG-24 format.
so the clock just revolved on top of the background even when it had to shift for the scroll bars.
in any case, the effect can be achived. what about a flash based keyboard?
Hi,
I have posted this in the General Kaiser section but I guess it has been totally disregarded.
I know that there is an issue with landscape using programs such as Manilla2D. Instead of trying to reprogram and re-icon everything on there, I purpose we do this.
We know that on the Tilt, when you slide out the keyboard, a "program/registry" on there invokes a file to play a sound. Why don't someone write a small program where, instead of invoking a .wav file, when you slide open the keyboard, you start SecondToday? So when you open, SecondToday kicks in and shows you a homescreen that you can customize, and when you slide keyboard back in, it opens SecondToday again so that Manilla2D is show in portrait?
Any thoughts?
Rytt
ATT Tilt
Apr 29 Dutty's No Cube Rom
Its a smart idea, but I'm pretty sure that'll just slow the device down beyond anything and before you know it- you'd regret opening the phone
What's supposed to happen if your trying to type a text message?
If this is the case, everytime you open the keyboard, the new home screen will appear.
I rather have a functioning homescreen then a half cropped one. I would do it but I have no idea how to go about it. As it stands now, there is no solution to Manilla2D or any other today screen except a long time reworking the coding.
Someone who can write this little program can always have an option to not display SecondToday unless you are in the Today screen.
Anyways, i have tried installing Secondtoday, copied the file into \Windows and changed the sliding sound from 0.wav to SecondToday.exe and it did not work.
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I rather have a functioning homescreen then a half cropped one. I would do it but I have no idea how to go about it. As it stands now, there is no solution to Manilla2D or any other today screen except a long time reworking the coding.
Someone who can write this little program can always have an option to not display SecondToday unless you are in the Today screen.
Anyways, i have tried installing Secondtoday, copied the file into \Windows and changed the sliding sound from 0.wav to SecondToday.exe and it did not work.
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Probably because it's not a sound file.
TheChampJT said:
Probably because it's not a sound file.
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I mean I changed it in the registry, not just in windows itself......
Rytt55 said:
I mean I changed it in the registry, not just in windows itself......
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I know, but the sliding event is set to play a sound file, not run an executible file.
as for the memory, I am running both Manilla2d and weatherpanel with the looping animated icons via secondtoday. It takes a little longer to load from a reset/first boot, but after that I switch between both today screens nearly instantaneously. I actually think you're on to something here. Dunno about other devices, but for us Kaiser owners, this could be something to look into - even if it turns out to be little more than proof of concept.
Wouldn't that effectively mean you have loaded all the plugins twice in the memory. Seems like a good concept, but the useable practicality of it is outweighed by the mem hogging / slowness it would produce imho.
Just look at this guys.
Touch Dual have this 'option'. when you slide out the keyboard it runs the HTC acton screen. nearly same thing does Raphael. So i think its just a matter of good registry tweaking here. Or maybe doing a small program for that. Just an idea.
You could look up the TouchDual.
Cheers,
Chris
ThrottleLauncher can do it.
Load the current ThrottleLauncher TF3D today screen. It has a completely different landscape setup (lots of create new email type buttons). Once you've established what your after, you can edit the XML files to create your own Today screens
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Load the current ThrottleLauncher TF3D today screen. It has a completely different landscape setup (lots of create new email type buttons). Once you've established what your after, you can edit the XML files to create your own Today screens
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We're talking about Manilla2D.
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We're talking about Manilla2D.
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Perhaps you should re-read the first quote.
Manilla2D was given as an exemplar of what one might do with a landscape today screen. The question was not limitted to this package. ThrottleLauncher is a perfect solution.
wouldn't any of this cause the screen orientation to take longer to switch?
Finally!
I am glad that some of you are thinking this is an great idea!
I hope it'll be pretty easy to come up with something like SecondToday. I don't mind it being slow but sitting at my computer looking at a messed up today erks me lol.
Hey guys,
Ive been working very hard at getting Manila2d to work in landscape (when you flip out the keyboard while manila2d is active then it will automatically switch today plugins)
this is the last piece of the puzzle: i need a today plugin that works in landscape and that can be skinned to look like TOuchflo 3d in landscape (basically skinnable shortcuts)
if i get it working ill release a .cab!
thanks guys
something like RLtoday maybee???
Very curious how it looks in landscape on my Kaiser
MFx said:
something like RLtoday maybee???
Very curious how it looks in landscape on my Kaiser
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thanks for the suggestion mate.
however after Googling it i saw that it was more than just a few shortcuts, even though it could easly be skinned. can you have it where it only displays shortcuts? if yes, then i will definitely try it out
recommend the landscape same as HTC touchpro after flip out keyboard
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/overview.html
yes, thats exactly how i want to skin it.
does anyone have any othersuggestions for programs that might work for this?
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yes, thats exactly how i want to skin it.
does anyone have any othersuggestions for programs that might work for this?
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If you want it like that maybee something like mortbuttons is a better option...
Don't know if it's easy to skin..
thanks again man
i just downloaded mortbuttons and it appears that its only a standalone applicationa dn not actually a today plugin, but i think im missing something.
ok: can a developer whip up someting really small thats just a today plugin thats made for landscape that looks and acts like the touch pro's landscape?
thanks
I could make an rlToday skin super fast for ya. Tonight even. QVGA I assume? I'll leave the purdy graphics to you, I'll just make a template. How's that sound?
I would focus on Touch Dual and Action Screen.
When you sliding the keyboard of Touch Dual - the action screen starting up. Maybe something similar is done on Touch Pro.
Cheers,
Chris
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I could make an rlToday skin super fast for ya. Tonight even. QVGA I assume? I'll leave the purdy graphics to you, I'll just make a template. How's that sound?
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that sounds awesome man
thanks a lot
1stly : the wasy u guys help each other out - like a family - I LUV DAT...!! 2ndly I SSSOOO LUV DIS FORUM...!!! As soon as I have cleared my overdraft am donating. Dyin with anticipation for TF3D to arrive.
Nearly done, but it's 3am here in Aus I'm going to hit the sack, and will upload the completed one tomorrow.
It's based entirely on rlToday, and respects rlToday's application shortcut menu [so all customisation of app names and links can be done without touching XML ]. Nothing fancy, no animations, but it'll work.
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That's a lie. My trickery to over-ride what I was going for didn't work, so to edit the shortcuts you'll have to dive into XML for now, until I can find a way around it
are youy actualy working on manila2d or skining some other app that looks like it?
What about HTC HOME? that works in landscape
Ask APBilbo. He made something similar with ThrottleLauncher in landscape.
Any news on the landscape???...my kaiser is screaming for it
i am close on landscape look at the pictures below
I've got my somewhat finished rlToday skin here if you'd like me to upload it. All it needs is the XML to be changed to link to whatever apps you want, and change the icons to whatever you want.
Give me a yell if you still need it.
what about today life? Not sure if thats what your looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407900&highlight=today+life
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yes, thats exactly how i want to skin it.
does anyone have any othersuggestions for programs that might work for this?
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Posting before reading i should now better.
MortButtons?!
You can either bring up a skinned Menu or the Buttons Today Pugin.
Not sure if that's what your after.
But it would be drawn to the screen much faster then RL.
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are youy actualy working on manila2d or skining some other app that looks like it?
What about HTC HOME? that works in landscape
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I 2nd the motion for HTC Home, its easy to use, elegant, and much more useful than a simple action screen. If HTC Home isn't the OP's preference, can we have a second version of the program that supports HTC Home?
Interesting for Chefs!!
Have you ever noticed that the Album version of the new Roms is very laggy in sliding between the pictures when you turn your phone in landscape mode?
I found 5 min ago a solution when playing with the registry, in which the Album slides smooth in Landscape AND you can use the picture overview in Landscape.
In
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCAlbum]
Edit the "rotate" entry to "0"
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Terrorhuhn
thanx for the info im gunna try
this should really of been posted in the blackstone section tho, as it has nada to do with rom development lol
Sry I saw to late that I didn't posted it in "Blackstone Themes, Applications...."
Could a Mod please move the thread?
ur trick works wicked lol
Good
I hope it is usefull for the community
you've stumbled upon a gold nugget mate! great job! and thanks for sharing!!
do you also know how to get the music tab rotation faster or how to disable it?
great post... works like a charm!
dude you are absolutely brilliant tnx alot
+1 for the music tab hehe
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thanx for the info im gunna try
this should really of been posted in the blackstone section tho, as it has nada to do with rom development lol
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i think it's useful for chef as it can easily be included in rom instead making us fiddle with the registry
what exactly does this improve? is it sliding between pictures when viewing full screen landscape or when the device is rotated on the photos tab?
if its the first, then it can also be accomplished by removing the entries in the Gsensor whitelist - thats how ive been doing it.
Great find.
Not only does it improve the landscape viewing, but it avoids/solves a bug in the recent HTC albums where you could confuse the sliding sequence when changing the physical position of the HD while continuing to slide.
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCAlbum]
Edit the "rotate" entry to "0"
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Terrorhuhn
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I don´t see any improvement....maybe someone can upload a video?
I really like this feature to work...!!!
Thks.
Too bad it doestn't work for me. In portrait mode, the pictures slide very smooth. In landscape mode it's still choppy and slow, even with this change in the register and a softreset. I think it has something to do with the g-sensor. Is it possible to totally disable the g-sensor or at least when turning the phone in album..?
I've tried about 6 different roms and they all have this problem, i hope someone can fix this.
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what exactly does this improve? is it sliding between pictures when viewing full screen landscape or when the device is rotated on the photos tab?
if its the first, then it can also be accomplished by removing the entries in the Gsensor whitelist - thats how ive been doing it.
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It's first
But the difference is, that the picture view (this where all pictures are listed in a grid) could be used in landscape mode furthermore.
With the removing of the whitelist this would be impossible!
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you've stumbled upon a gold nugget mate! great job! and thanks for sharing!!
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No problem
The only thing I wish is that there are no more laggy HTCAlbums in new Roms *ggg*
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Too bad it doestn't work for me. In portrait mode, the pictures slide very smooth. In landscape mode it's still choppy and slow, even with this change in the register and a softreset. I think it has something to do with the g-sensor. Is it possible to totally disable the g-sensor or at least when turning the phone in album..?
I've tried about 6 different roms and they all have this problem, i hope someone can fix this.
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Which version of HTCAlbum do you have? You see the version also in the Registry path were the tweak has to be added.
I tried it with Dutty Holy Grail R0 2.1 And the Album version is 3.0
And I don't have to make a soft reset... wierd...
Great discovery can you do that for the calculator and htc music
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i have noticed that roms with os 6.5.1 has a very fast rotation and fast scrolling in landscape mode both for pictures and music (i just check on chinehe v.2.3)
and the rotation registry value is still "1"
so, maybe the solution for slow rotation and scrolling can be found starting from here + terrorhuhn discovery
a smart guy could find it and share for us
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Too bad it doestn't work for me. In portrait mode, the pictures slide very smooth. In landscape mode it's still choppy and slow, even with this change in the register and a softreset. I think it has something to do with the g-sensor. Is it possible to totally disable the g-sensor or at least when turning the phone in album..?
I've tried about 6 different roms and they all have this problem, i hope someone can fix this.
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To speed up scrolling through pics in landscape go to HKLM/Software/HTC/HTCScroll and change "velocity_factor". It's set at 10000 and I've changed it to 20000. You might want to set it to 40000 just to see the increase in speed and then back it down from there. This setting will also increase scrolling speed in, among other things, the favorites tab, internet tab, and increase scrolling through albums in the music tab while in landscape. This tweak may very well be the one in HD Tweak, I'm not sure, but whatever the case, you can set it how you like.