Would it hurt to try to flash the Rogers Dream radio to our Dreams and see if it unlocks those magical UMTS 850 / 1900 bands? There were people screaming that it was a purely hardware limitation (reminds me of those people who said that there could be no performance benefit from overclocking, but they were wrong).
It really couldn't hurt to try, of course. Anyone got the Rogers radio lying around?
I totally agree with you If someone gets the radio update, i will flash on my dream and make the tests!
I've noticed that the radio version from Rogers is the same one from Sapphire (3.22.20.17)
duperin said:
I totally agree with you If someone gets the radio update, i will flash on my dream and make the tests!
I've noticed that the radio version from Rogers is the same one from Sapphire (3.22.20.17)
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The only problem is SPL compatibility... we don't know, and I hope nobody gets brick
UMTS on AT&T would be amazing.
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The only problem is SPL compatibility... we don't know, and I hope nobody gets brick
UMTS on AT&T would be amazing.
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Even if I already have the latest SPL installed (1.33.2005)?
I thought the brick thing happens only if you tries to flash the SPL without the latest radio ... now I'm scared
But if the SPL reads the Rogers radio as an older radio, it would be the same effect as downgrading our radio to on older one, aka bricking the phone.(as far as we know...i don't think anyone has actually tried to downgrade radios after installing H's SPL..)
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But if the SPL reads the Rogers radio as an older radio, it would be the same effect as downgrading our radio to on older one, aka bricking the phone.(as far as we know...i don't think anyone has actually tried to downgrade radios after installing H's SPL..)
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I think someone did, they bricked.
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But if the SPL reads the Rogers radio as an older radio, it would be the same effect as downgrading our radio to on older one, aka bricking the phone.(as far as we know...i don't think anyone has actually tried to downgrade radios after installing H's SPL..)
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Someone tried the RC33 radio after successfully flashing H's SPL and bricked their phone. It's unknown if different radios would have the same effect, but it's a definite risk.
I'm curious about this myself, even though it wouldn't really help me since I use TMo. First step is to find out what radio chip both versions of the handset use, and whether simply flashing the firmware image can change the frequencies. At first guess, I would think it's possible, but at the same time I've never heard of anyone doing it.
hahahaha
you guys are hilarious
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hahahaha
you guys are hilarious
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Care to explain why?
Ahh, the demise of the XDA forums.
I am very interested in this myself. I have taken my g1 apart and it has a stand alone umts radio connected to the main board via an 80mm coaxial cable. i am not sure if it will flash but i do know that the antenna should be different. It is supossed that the anntena for the 1700 and 2100 freqs it different than the 850 1900 ones. maybe this unit could be swapped betwen phones. I am willing to test on my G1 if you can figure this out.
Maybe I am missing something you guys are saying but the Dream doesnt have a quad band umts radio. It is only set up for TMo's 1700/2100 bands. Software wouldnt help that. You would need new software AND a new radio that could connect to the ATT bands.
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Maybe I am missing something you guys are saying but the Dream doesnt have a quad band umts radio. It is only set up for TMo's 1700/2100 bands. Software wouldnt help that. You would need new software AND a new radio that could connect to the ATT bands.
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Mmm. Kinda.
However, if the Rogers one is a Drea100 or Drea200 like the european devices, then it should have the same hardwareinside and it is possible if we can find the right combos of ROM and Radio.
oneof the good things of HTC using the qualcomm chipsets is that they are just governed by software in many cases, but the chipset has the same features...just not all activated.
Exactly. It is VERY common for a manufacturer to build one part and use software to control what features it has. CPU manufacturers have been doing it forever. Sometimes it is a question of fuse bits, which permanently disable a feature beyond recovery, though very often, its just a soft switch.
In fact, someone from google (I know they're not HTC) stated specifically upon my query (several months ago) that the hardware WAS quad band, just not enabled in software. Now how knowledgeable this fellow was, I can't say, but presumably being in the position to respond to questions publicly on google's forums, he must be required to answer questions truthfully or at least not answer at all... lies couldn't be tolerated. Unless he overstepped his bounds and his knowledge in the answer.
coolbho3000 said:
Would it hurt to try to flash the Rogers Dream radio to our Dreams and see if it unlocks those magical UMTS 850 / 1900 bands?
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Hmm...
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It really couldn't hurt to try, of course. Anyone got the Rogers radio lying around?
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coolbho3000, meet coolbho3000.
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Hmm...
coolbho3000, meet coolbho3000.
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haha
that's good
If I have an 802.11b Wi-fi NIC in my computer, installing drivers for an 802.11g version of the same NIC will not make my NIC operate at that frequency. Furthermore, if those drivers removed the capability to use 802.11b frequencies, my NIC will now no longer connect to anything.
I think at this point the question is: does the radio support all 4 data frequencies (850/1900/1700/2100).
My understanding at this point is: No.
Ask yourself -- why would HTC wait so long to release the G1 in Canada if not because they had to manufacture a phone with different radio hardware to meet Canadian broadcasting requirements?
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If I have an 802.11b Wi-fi NIC in my computer, installing drivers for an 802.11g version of the same NIC will not make my NIC operate at that frequency. Furthermore, if those drivers removed the capability to use 802.11b frequencies, my NIC will now no longer connect to anything.
I think at this point the question is: does the radio support all 4 data frequencies (850/1900/1700/2100).
My understanding at this point is: No.
Ask yourself -- why would HTC wait so long to release the G1 in Canada if not because they had to manufacture a phone with different radio hardware to meet Canadian broadcasting requirements?
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The fact that it's a custom build perhaps?
the qualcom chip supports at&t frequencies BUT its output doesnt go directly to the antenna, it goes through amplifiers first... the t-mobile g1 has two amplifiers for the t-mo frequencies only... I really hope im wrong cause i have a T-mo G1 in canada and i have to spend 700$ to get 3G (which im paying anyway but only get edge). Anyways this pic might help you out...
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I trust it cause its from ubm tech:
http://ubmtechnology.com/
Here's some pictures of the guts of a Canadian HTC Dream, compared with the G1: http://img26.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=1000387n.jpg
It's the same "base" radio chip, with different numbers below. According to the Qualcomm specifications site, the chip should be able to handle ANY 3G frequencies.
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Is it possible to dump the G1's Radio? I know a lot of GSM users would DIE to have this radio, including myself.
The G1 runs the same processor(MSM7201A) as the Diamond, Touch Pro, and Touch HD. I'm sure there are others that I'm missing too but the radio from this device could benefit thousands of US T-Mobile users who are using the above mentioned devices to obtain US T-Mobile 3G.
I think it is a project worth looking into. What do you think?
Not trying to hijack, but simply add to the question...
On the reverse note, would it be possible to flash a TouchPro/TouchHD/Diamond radio to the G1? If it were possible, would this give us the ability to use AT&T 3g with the G1??
Certainly a valid question. I hope this takes off. If it does and people figure out how to flash a Diamond/Touch Pro/HD Radio ROM to the G1 that would benefit thousands of AT&T users as well. It would simultaneously help... Everyone.
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Is it possible to dump the G1's Radio? I know a lot of GSM users would DIE to have this radio, including myself.
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You can find the radio software in any standard G1 update file. Just unzip it and grab the radio.img file from the root of the zip directory.
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On the reverse note, would it be possible to flash a TouchPro/TouchHD/Diamond radio to the G1? If it were possible, would this give us the ability to use AT&T 3g with the G1??
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Impossible. G1 only contains power amplifiers for two UMTS bands: 1700(AWS) and 2100. AT&T operates on 850 and 1900. You can flash all the software you want, but without the hardware to communicate with, you'd be going nowhere fast.
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Would it be possible to take the G1 Radio(which you say is a .img file) and make it work on a Windows based device ex. HD(which uses a .nbh extension for it's radio) at all? If the hardware is really that different than it may not be possible but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.
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Would it be possible to take the G1 Radio(which you say is a .img file) and make it work on a Windows based device ex. HD(which uses a .nbh extension for it's radio) at all? If the hardware is really that different than it may not be possible but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.
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Well given that the baseband software package is mostly undocumented, I couldn't say whether or not a radio from G1 would work on any other HTC device (especially one operating on different wcdma bands). The likelihood is probably higher if the radios are intended for devices with the same baseband processor?
As for NBH, G1 has them too. However, NBH packages are reserved for HTC's use. End users update G1 system software in Android's recovery tool. For that reason there are currently no publically available G1 NBH files to analyze. Perhaps the WinMo subforums would be a better place to investigate repacking a radio.img into a .nb file.
What are you trying to do with the G1 radio?
My definite goal is to take the 1700Mhz radio from the G1 and port it to other HTC devices with the same processor such as the Diamond, Touch Pro, and HD. Doing so would enable T-Mobile US users of these devices to use T-Mobile's 3G network and not just stuck with edge which is possibly slower than Sprint's 1X. Too slow for me and quite a few others I'm sure.
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My definite goal is to take the 1700Mhz radio from the G1 and port it to other HTC devices with the same processor such as the Diamond, Touch Pro, and HD. Doing so would enable T-Mobile US users of these devices to use T-Mobile's 3G network and not just stuck with edge which is possibly slower than Sprint's 1X. Too slow for me and quite a few others I'm sure.
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Do those devices actually have 1700MHz WCDMA power amplifiers?
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Do those devices actually have 1700MHz WCDMA power amplifiers?
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I couldn't tell you. I'm not sure if they do or not. I guess I was hoping someone else would know the answer to that one.
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I couldn't tell you. I'm not sure if they do or not. I guess I was hoping someone else would know the answer to that one.
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Since T-Mo is the only US carrier using 1700 AWS, it's highly unlikely any handset you get outside of T-Mo will have a 1700 AWS power amp. Without the hardware for 1700 AWS (aka UMTS Band IV) none of those devices will connect to T-Mo USA's 3G network. G1 also has a power amp for 2100 MHz but I believe that is used for T-Mo's European buildout.
this seems like a very interesting project. id be interested in getting a G1 radio working on my touch pro
any new news on finding a way to dump the G1 radio rom?
I've been following the developments on the recent radios, including the 2.08.50.08_2 radio thread and i must say i'm very confused. I am under the impression this is a TMOUS radio and from what i gather, TMOUS hardware is not the same as the original leo, especially the radio hardware. And yet i see all these people eager to flash their original leos with these new radios.
My question is: do we know for a fact that these radios developed for TMOUS are being developed with backward-compatibility with the original leo hardware? Is it not risky to flash our phones to run radio software against hardware it is not developed for?
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I've been following the developments on the recent radios, including the 2.08.50.08_2 radio thread and i must say i'm very confused. I am under the impression this is a TMOUS radio and from what i gather, TMOUS hardware is not the same as the original leo, especially the radio hardware. And yet i see all these people eager to flash their original leos with these new radios.
My question is: do we know for a fact that these radios developed for TMOUS are being developed with backward-compatibility with the original leo hardware? Is it not risky to flash our phones to run radio software against hardware it is not developed for?
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its the same phone... so same hardware.
that would explain the poor audio quality i get with radios 2.07 or above. However only a few people seem to have this problem. Others report good quality, reception and battery life.
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its the same phone... so same hardware.
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It would be nice to throw in a link or two of sources that state that the T8585 and T9193 have exactly the same hardware, otherwise it's just your opinion.
T8585 runs on 850MHz while T9193 runs on 900MHz, how do we know TMOUS radios are compatible with our original leo's 850MHz working frequency?
Also if some mod could move this to the general forum, i just realized i posted it in the ROM forum.
wingm4n said:
I've been following the developments on the recent radios, including the 2.08.50.08_2 radio thread and i must say i'm very confused. I am under the impression this is a TMOUS radio and from what i gather, TMOUS hardware is not the same as the original leo, especially the radio hardware. And yet i see all these people eager to flash their original leos with these new radios.
My question is: do we know for a fact that these radios developed for TMOUS are being developed with backward-compatibility with the original leo hardware? Is it not risky to flash our phones to run radio software against hardware it is not developed for?
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very good question. would like to know that too.
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T8585 runs on 850MHz while T9193 runs on 900MHz
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It's the other way around...the T8585 runs at 900/2100Mhz and the T9193 runs at 850/2100Mhz otherwise I believe they are identical (no proof, just what i've read).
I'm using 2.08.50.08_2 on my UK HD2 and it works fine, battery life seems better so it's all good!!
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I'm using 2.08.50.08_2 on my UK HD2 and it works fine, battery life seems better so it's all good!!
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same here! battery life is definately much improved with this radio.
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how do we know TMOUS radios are compatible with our original leo's 850MHz working frequency?
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The fact that those who have flashed to radio 2.08 have been able to with no loss in quality and improved battery life.
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The fact that those who have flashed to radio 2.08 have been able to with no loss in quality and improved battery life.
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some have reported higher temp from the back of their devices.
look i'm not saying that it doesn't work or even that it probably doesn't, i'm just wondering if all these good folks flash it because they know it's the same hardware or because they assume so
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look i'm not saying that it doesn't work or even that it probably doesn't, i'm just wondering if all these good folks flash it because they know it's the same hardware or because they assume so
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I flashed to 2.08 on a UK Leo knowing if it didnt work i could always go back to previous radio. The decision was not hardware related
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The fact that those who have flashed to radio 2.08 have been able to with no loss in quality and improved battery life.
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not true in all cases!
The physical transceiver in the US release may be different but that doesn't matter to the Radio stack software that these guys are flashing
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The physical transceiver in the US release may be different but that doesn't matter to the Radio stack software that these guys are flashing
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english please?
Starfury said:
The physical transceiver in the US release may be different but that doesn't matter to the Radio stack software that these guys are flashing
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what makes you say that, pls explain.
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what makes you say that, pls explain.
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Radio antenna's have to be "tuned" to the required frequency bands in order to optimise performance. This is usually done by changing the physical length of the antenna and/or using different passband filters.
Ever take an old radio apart? there are (usually) square metal blocks with what looks like a screw head in the top. That can be twisted to alter the working frequency, the rest of the radio doesn't need to be rebuilt/programmed for it to work. Same when Channel 5 started in the UK, they emplyed loads of people to twist a small screw in the back of VCR's to retune them.
Same with the radio's in our HD2s, the hardware will be the same in each unit, just the frequencies pre set differently. The radio stack shouldnt make any difference from one unit to the next, (except of course the internal operation of the stack, , battery life, etc)
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Ever take an old radio apart? there are (usually) square metal blocks with what looks like a screw head in the top. That can be twisted to alter the working frequency, the rest of the radio doesn't need to be rebuilt/programmed for it to work. Same when Channel 5 started in the UK, they emplyed loads of people to twist a small screw in the back of VCR's to retune them.
Same with the radio's in our HD2s, the hardware will be the same in each unit, just the frequencies pre set differently. The radio stack shouldnt make any difference from one unit to the next, (except of course the internal operation of the stack, , battery life, etc)
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sorry for dumb question but are you saying that TMOUS roms will work just fine on T8585?
Success! Flashed my 1st ROM and 1st Radio. I know that to the guru's here that's no big deal but it took a lot of nerve to risk my $500 investment to the mercy of my newbieness and potential to brick it.
Now I have a few more in-depth questions for the very helpful staff around here.
I flashed Radio Leo RADIO 2.07.50.27_2 on a suggestion I saw in a thread here that stated it was the best to use on AT&T in the US. I had the stock Radio at first. I am running Artemis v331_0409_WWE which seems very well behaved and has just about all I need less the typical bloatware.
My question(s)...
What is the difference in features/performance between the stock Telstra Radio, the generic OEM radio from HTC, and the radio I have flashed? Should I be seeing any sort of improvements?
I ask this because I see all the radios published for downloading but not much on specifics as to features or benefits.
I am also interested in forcing my HD2 to stay (forced) on 3G and stop dancing back and forth between 3G and EDGE. Is that possible?
I have good signals for both 3G and EDGE but sometimes the EDGE is stronger and it drops down to it and screwing up my connection speed to a crawl.
I know that in the TMO ROM on a TMO HD2 it had the ability to select the bands (at least that's what I recall). Do any of the Radio Gods around here know how to do this or any Cooks know if this is even possible?
Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Answered my own question
After some creative searching I found an answer to the "forcing 3G" question.
Why HTC buried the band settings in a phone menu beats me. But, I found the answer. I was hoping it would have been in a more logical place like wireless connections, but hey... what do I know.
I'd still appreciate some specifics on my radio questions as I'm not looking forward to flashing every conceivable radio to see which one works if I can at least narrow it down by getting some recommendations for the best one to use on AT&T.
there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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I did not say anything about 3G on TMO, the thread is regarding the T9193 (Telstra), not TMO branded.
Yes, I am getting 3G on AT&T, but its with a T9193. TMO's version has different hardware with a different Radio Chip frequency. Flashing does not change that since it is hard coded in the Radio chip.
Sorry.
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there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
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If there are no differences then why are there different versions? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not arguing your point but I am curious as to why a new version Radio is released if there are no differences. That would be like Microsoft releasing Windows 7 version xxxx12345.0 and then releasing version xxxx12345.678.1 and doing so for no apparent reason.
From what I've read, there must be a difference if the performance is different so it would indicate to me that there must be some tweaks on some parameters. I'm trying to find out what those parameters are and what they affect.
Oh well! That'll teach me to read more closely!
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The last time I had an HTC phone, HTC provided a bootloader unlocking tool for phones bought on contract through carriers. Is this still the case? I'd probably end up having a Verizon model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/unlockable-bootloader-t3357220
The GSM version will be unlockable. Unknown if Verizon will screw that up or not.
Responding to my question, Jeff Gordon - Senior Global Online Communications Manager at HTC Corp said:
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God dam it. What is this bs with unlockable bootloader lately. This was my #1 choice. Now I guess I'll have to wait for the next nexus.
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@nitramus I think you have misread. For the 10 if you buy direct from HTC, it looks like the bootloader will be unlocked out of the box. If you buy from a service provider, it may be locked, but can be unlocked via the HTC website.
Might be because English is not my primary language but when I read this what I get is that it can not be unlocked.
nitramus said:
Might be because English is not my primary language but when I read this what I get is that it can not be unlocked.
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Yeah, you're not reading it correctly. HTC is still offering dev unlocking. You will be able to unlock it.
Sweet, thanks!
Awesome news, I hope verizon doesn't screw this up...
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Awesome news, I hope verizon doesn't screw this up...
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Verizon branded devices are NOT unlockable through HTC Dev. Verizon requests that HTC block their branded devices from that service. Verizon users must rely on Java card or software exploits such as sunshine to be updated to work with the 10.
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Verizon branded devices are NOT unlockable through HTC Dev. Verizon requests that HTC block their branded devices from that service. Verizon users must rely on Java card or software exploits such as sunshine to be updated to work with the 10.
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Thanks for the info, would a carrier unlocked HTC 10 work on Verizon? I've been hearing mixed information
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Thanks for the info, would a carrier unlocked HTC 10 work on Verizon? I've been hearing mixed information
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That's kind of tough to answer. First, according to the specs on HTC's page it does have the correct LTE and CDMA radios to work on Verizon. That being said, you would still have to get the device activated on Verizon's Network and that can be difficult with devices Verizon does not carry.
Second, responses from official HTC employees (e.g. Mo Versi and others) state that you will need to purchase the Verizon branded model, once available, to get full support. Seems to be intentionally vague. The answer to your question: it may well work and it may well not, you have to roll the dice to find out.
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That's kind of tough to answer. First, according to the specs on HTC's page it does have the correct LTE and CDMA radios to work on Verizon. That being said, you would still have to get the device activated on Verizon's Network and that can be difficult with devices Verizon does not carry.
Second, responses from official HTC employees (e.g. Mo Versi and others) state that you will need to purchase the Verizon branded model, once available, to get full support. Seems to be intentionally vague. The answer to your question: it may well work and it may well not, you have to roll the dice to find out.
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I'm wondering if someone will figure out how to trick Verizon into thinking the unlocked version is one of its own.
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I'm wondering if someone will figure out how to trick Verizon into thinking the unlocked version is one of its own.
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You'd need to change the device CID to match Verizon's to trick them. For that, s-off is required, bootloader unlock will not give required access to change that.
Just read an article that T-Mobile and AT&T have rolled out Android 3.0 so I decided to check.
Lo' and behold, Verizon is right in lock step!
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Got it as well and so far it's running smoothly
You guys have any luck when accessing the Chat Settings in Samsung Messages or are you getting an error as well?
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You guys have any luck when accessing the Chat Settings in Samsung Messages or are you getting an error as well?
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Yeah getting an error here.
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Yeah getting an error here.
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That's a different one than I am getting.
Man I haven't got the update yet and I been checking everyday lol
Is there any reason why the firmware still isn't able to download through Frija or elsewhere?
Got Mine
Got the update as well, and also got the error message when trying to use the chat features in Samsung Messages. Ran around with Verizon and Samsung and the gist of it is that it's a Samsung Messages error that will need an app update for.
I don't know if I want to use it anymore, though, because I thought it was going to use the Google RCS but it looks like it's only going to use the VZW version which, my understanding is, only works with other VZW customers with the approved phones. So looks like I'll stick with Google Messages.
what finally??? the whole world is getting it in January.
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Is there any reason why the firmware still isn't able to download through Frija or elsewhere?
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I have the link to my uploaded firmware, downloaded from Frija. Here you go.
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I have the link to my uploaded firmware, downloaded from Frija. Here you go.
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I appreciate the reference but the VZW firmware is CTL4 and the update comes with a way to enable low band 5G so I need that specific firmware, I appreciate the help though!
adj998 said:
I appreciate the reference but the VZW firmware is CTL4 and the update comes with a way to enable low band 5G so I need that specific firmware, I appreciate the help though!
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I'm pretty low band 5G is enabled on CTL2 as well
denson9874 said:
I'm pretty low band 5G is enabled on CTL2 as well
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yeah, I decided to say **** it and just flash CTL2. If I have to, I'll roll back in the future and reupdate to be on official VZW. It's not like I haven't done it before lol
adj998 said:
yeah, I decided to say **** it and just flash CTL2. If I have to, I'll roll back in the future and reupdate to be on official VZW. It's not like I haven't done it before lol
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Lol join the f**k and flash crew. It's almost customary for me to download every firmware for each compatible region and see what flashes and what doesn't lol. Call me reckless.
denson9874 said:
Lol join the f**k and flash crew. It's almost customary for me to download every firmware for each compatible region and see what flashes and what doesn't lol. Call me reckless.
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Right? Lol I still can't get 5G though, I've already swapped 6 SIM cards and nothing. It'll stick for a little while with the new SIM but after a reboot I get sent back to LTE, not even LTE+. Which is weird considering Spectrum uses the exact same towers/firmware as Verizon which is why I was confused as to why I didn't receive the CTL4 update.
adj998 said:
Right? Lol I still can't get 5G though, I've already swapped 6 SIM cards and nothing. It'll stick for a little while with the new SIM but after a reboot I get sent back to LTE, not even LTE+. Which is weird considering Spectrum uses the exact same towers/firmware as Verizon which is why I was confused as to why I didn't receive the CTL4 update.
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That's odd. I also have the tendency to swap between LTE then 5G but generally it only occurs when I'm on Wi-Fi. After disabling it, it will stays on 5G low band. Might just be the area because VZW just flipped the switch in my area maybe a couple of weeks ago.
This was from 5 minutes ago:
This was right afterwards:
So, it changes quite a bit at times.
I got the update using Verizon firmware. The phone feels fast and 5G low band is the same as before. Now the things I dislike:
1. The Samsung clock font used on the AOD, lockscreen, and notification is a throwback to the S3 days and looks cartoony. The Roboto font was cleaner and more consistent.
2. The battery life is terrible so far. I'm dropping about 10% per hour whereas I could go a full 24 hours before.
I'm going to see if rolling back via ODIN works. Might see if the November Android 10 firmware for the U1 has low band 5G support.
denson9874 said:
That's odd. I also have the tendency to swap between LTE then 5G but generally it only occurs when I'm on Wi-Fi. After disabling it, it will stays on 5G low band. Might just be the area because VZW just flipped the switch in my area maybe a couple of weeks ago.
This was from 5 minutes ago:
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This was right afterwards:
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So, it changes quite a bit at times.
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Hmmm might be because I'm on spectrum, so I'm using verizon network but yet at the same time I'm not verizon? I'm constantly stuck on LTE and the speeds, well pretty much suck. I don't complain much as my medical condition keeps me at home 24/7 anyways and I have 200Mbps wifi so I'm not too worried. My only issue is that I paid for a 5G device so I kinda want to see what the hype is about 5G speeds.
adj998 said:
Hmmm might be because I'm on spectrum, so I'm using verizon network but yet at the same time I'm not verizon? I'm constantly stuck on LTE and the speeds, well pretty much suck. I don't complain much as my medical condition keeps me at home 24/7 anyways and I have 200Mbps wifi so I'm not too worried. My only issue is that I paid for a 5G device so I kinda want to see what the hype is about 5G speeds.
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I get what you mean. I don't think we'll get 5G UW anytime soon in my area but the next closest place that supports it is ATL, so at some point in time I'll go up that way to test what the whole hype is about. I generally use wifi as well, so I got the 20 ultra for the 108MP and future proofing, especially when I get BL unlock and root.