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Hi guys. This is my first time posting but I've searched through the forums and can't seem to find much. Is it possible to have an auto flash mode for the camera? I know there's limitations with 1.6 but the X10 mini has this functionality and wondered if there's any way to import this? Apologies if this is a stupid question
It would have great to get this I dont know anything, but after rooting, may be it's possible??? Or the LED light on/off button on viewfinder? then we can be able to on/off led with single click without going in settings
hi all,
ive had bad experience with the x10 camera app and i though i might have a faulty camera or something is screwed up but the problems are with the actual app, ive since started using vignette as my camera app, you can make it as default camera app, ifs got flash on/off/auto, different effects, and it doesnt compress the images as much it leave an 8mpx photo between 3.5mb - 8mb and thats actually the approx size it should be without loosing quality.
ill upload in a few min the pictures ive taken with the x10 using that app
best $3 ive spent on the android market.
S.E. should learn from its developers of how to make a camera app
the images are to big to upload here and i dont want to resize them so as not to loose quality of the originals so heres the link to view the images,
http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
let me know what you think,
i think the effects are great, great quality pix
ruskival said:
ifs got flash on/off/auto, different effects
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Woww if it has on/off/auto, then it's very useful
Can you please post pictures of same object taken with stock camera & vignette, then we can see difference in quality also
ruskival said:
the images are to big to upload here and i dont want to resize them so as not to loose quality of the originals so heres the link to view the images,
http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
let me know what you think,
i think the effects are great, great quality pix
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It is a really wonderful application!
Thanks for pointing it out!
I love the effects, they are good for some quick unique shots,
ready for upload immediately!
Really wonderful app !
is late at night where im from (Australia) but ill take some outdoor pix tomorrow with both original camera app and the vignette one so you guys can all see the difference. so in about 12-14 hours ill upload comparison pictures
This app is pretty awesome. Funny that the developers could make the X10's flash work like, well, a flash. How the heck could SE not figure that one out?? It's now my default camera app. 4/5 and would be 5/5 if they could speed up the camera. This is my only beef with the camera on the X10. Takes too long to take the actually photo. My wife's iphone takes it instantly, and I must say that given the fact that it's only 3.2 mega pixels the quality of the photos is pretty darn good too. Must have something to do with the app itself.
Never the less Vignette is one of the best paid apps ive purchased to date.
I'm surprised the pictures aren't up lol
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I bought this product on the recommendation from this thread.
http://picasaweb.google.com/107358427786063209630/SonyVsVignette02?feat=directlink
One of the above was taken using Vignette with the autoflash function, 8 mp setting and auto exposure. The other was taken with stock camera with flash light on. Which do you prefer!?!
I would say that I took various photos of different things to see what the difference was but I think its pretty clear to see. The images with Vignette were all poor focus. Needless to say I have uninstalled/refunded the app. I'll stick with the stock camera for the time being.
By the way never done on line pics before so dont know if above links will work!
Whoa!!
Where did you guys buy the X10 with a flash? I want that version! Mine only came with a photo light, which isn't designed to be used as a flash!
The Vignette app from the market gives you flash functionality over the photolight which is probably its most redeeming feature cos the photo quality was pants!
I've had some impressive results with Vignette - took some photo's of a document today using it and it was definitely sharper than with the stock cam..?!
Oh no, so what was I doing wrong?! Why were my pics so out of focus? The reason I sent those two in was that I even put the camera on the edge of the shelf to steady it to see if it was me with camera shake.
Don't say I've ditched a decent product cos I got the settings wrong!
suzed said:
I bought this product on the recommendation from this thread.
http://picasaweb.google.com/1073584...?authkey=Gv1sRgCMaqk_6Q2NT9Sw&feat=directlink
One of the above was taken using Vignette with the autoflash function, 8 mp setting and auto exposure. The other was taken with stock camera with flash light on. Which do you prefer!?!
I would say that I took various photos of different things to see what the difference was but I think its pretty clear to see. The images with Vignette were all poor focus. Needless to say I have uninstalled/refunded the app. I'll stick with the stock camera for the time being.
By the way never done on line pics before so dont know if above links will work!
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Well one is in focus while the other is out of focus, that's not an app doing it.
How do you guys use the flash with vignette app? I have it on my phone but there's no option to turn it on!
Don't you have the "flash icon" on the screen - over on the right, 2nd from bottom when in landscape mode... ??..
And Suzed - Did you change any of the "JPEG file settings" - 2nd icon from the top on the right when in landscape mode... I think mine started on 2mp normal, I've changed it to 8.0mp superfine.
personally ive not have any problems with vignette,
set flash to auto,
8mpx, superfine.
one other thing i did was set in the options to touch screen to take photo, that way it does auto focus and only take photo when you hold it steady, so photos are in focus and great, check out photos ive taken
http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
only thing is it takes some times for the photos to be processed and uses up a lot of resources, in my case adw launcher reloads when i exit the vignette app, but i dont mind as long as the pictures i take come out great
i have a question for everyone using Vignette.
In daylight is taking the same overexposed as the stock app?
With the stock app i have control over exposure compensation so, after lowering EV with a stop or two everything is fine but Vignette demo doesn't have exposure compensation support.
How is it in the full version?
Can somebody take 2 images one with Vignette and one with stock outside in daylight at max quality (8 Mp, superfine)?
I bought Camera FX sometime ago but is useless as it doesn't have any EV/ISO/etc. controls.
i dont usually use my camera phone, but tried to use it yesterday and was extremely dissapointed in the zoom facility. didnt make much difference at all. my old omnia seemed to zoom in much further. am i stuck with this or has somone looked at a fix for this?
did a search but got loads of android stuff come up, which is useless to me.
Mike
Chastiser said:
i dont usually use my camera phone, but tried to use it yesterday and was extremely dissapointed in the zoom facility. didnt make much difference at all. my old omnia seemed to zoom in much further. am i stuck with this or has somone looked at a fix for this?
did a search but got loads of android stuff come up, which is useless to me.
Mike
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Digital zoom is always poor, it just takes a snapshot of part of the picture and increases it's size - lowering the quality of the resultant image.
For zoomed pictures I prefer to use Canon EOD 5d Mark II with 300mm lens
HTC HD2 is a really great phone. Let me repeat - phone.
The camera it has can be good for taking pictures of business cards or for some augumented reality things, but not for anything more advanced.
tomksoft said:
For zoomed pictures I prefer to use Canon EOD 5d Mark II with 300mm lens
HTC HD2 is a really great phone. Let me repeat - phone.
The camera it has can be good for taking pictures of business cards or for some augumented reality things, but not for anything more advanced.
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yes, i understand it is a phone! however, the camera on my ole omnia zoomed in far more than the camera i have on the HD2 and wondered if there was some sort of tweak so that the zoom could be improved. do i need to repeat that? blimy ask a question and get sarcasm.
Mike
Poor Camera zoom.
Mike,
I totally agree. The camera zoom only enables x1.6 on the zoom which in my opinion is pointless. Given as stated earlier its a phone and not a camera, i cant think of any phones out there with worse zoom capabilities!
If there any tweak headz out there that could maybe edit the phone for at least x3 zoom capability on the camera that would be blinding!
Someone Do it'...........Please!
Hi guys I just noticed that you cannot zoom in 8Mp and 6MP da Arc and was wondering whats the point of having such a good camera without that function..
I also noticed that no zooming in video mode which is ridiculous..
Are there any apps to overcome this problem??
Thanks
You can take picture & zoom it after taking it
Wow...wtf thats pretty ****ty...
I really hate digital zooming it destroys the beauty of the picture. the pictures are big so you can crop them on your pc. digital zoom is ****ty...
Yeah I know...I want to zoom before taking the image...Cannot zoom in video mode as well....
blueblood619 said:
Yeah I know...I want to zoom before taking the image...Cannot zoom in video mode as well....
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1. Move your body closer to the object(s).
2. Get a tele lens for your Arc.
Digital zooming is crap. I never used it on my old prosumer camera.
arconfire said:
1. Move your body closer to the object(s).
2. Get a tele lens for your arc.
Digital zooming is crap. I never used it on my old prosumer camera.
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agreeeeeeeeeeee
ArcOnFire said:
1. Move your body closer to the object(s).
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Lol...next tell an astromer to take a space shuttle to the moon to get closer rather than using a telescope...
superutp said:
Lol...next tell an astromer to take a space shuttle to the moon to get closer rather than using a telescope...
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take picture inside of a telescope
blueblood619 said:
Hi guys I just noticed that you cannot zoom in 8Mp and 6MP da Arc and was wondering whats the point of having such a good camera without that function..
I also noticed that no zooming in video mode which is ridiculous..
Are there any apps to overcome this problem??
Thanks
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First, I found it ridiculous. But when remembering those blurr and low-quality photos on iPhone 4, I think Sony did a good job rather than fooling out customers.
Or use a third party software to zoom or crop.
well you can crop photos on the phone.. but I also think it would be good to have the zoom function on video tbh..
Sent from The Arc!
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/thread/14283?tstart=0
I really had to laugh while reading this thread. ^^
I wouldn't mind the digital zoom gone (as I agree with the crap quality point), but why did they put it into the app in the first place?
I had a look around the SE forums a week or so ago, and that was one of the threads i looked at. Two things sprang to mind:
(1) Dont bother looking on the SE forums for help. SE representatives/mods are utterly useless. Dont think i saw any of them post a useful answer to any question or problem, they only seem to be able to type either: "it sounds like a software problem, reinstall your firmware", or "i dont know anything about that".
(2) SE should have left the digital zoom in, because you can never underestimate the stupidity of your customers. I particularly loved the prize specimen who, after being given a comprehensive and accurate answer why there's no point in having digital zoom, says "i dont want a lecture, i just want my zoom!". Ignorant twat.
You're just so right...
binku said:
First, I found it ridiculous. But when remembering those blurr and low-quality photos on iPhone 4, I think Sony did a good job rather than fooling out customers.
Or use a third party software to zoom or crop.
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Can you suggest any softwares please
Try "Reduce photo size"
Today I was required to take a photograph with my Xperia Play, which required me to zoom. Only to find out the the Xperia Play cannot zoom. I was quickly told by an iPhone user, "oh my phone zooms." I can't believe it.
This is a very well known flaw. Old news
I fall to see how it's a flaw. It's a useless feature that just ruins an image
lol, iphone zoom murders the already disappointing picture quality, even with their falsely important "high dynamic range" crap.
there's software out there that remedies this "flaw," but if you want real zooming, get a real camera.
3rd party soft like fx camera zoom fixes this flaw. Hope it helps
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All zooming does is the equivalent of a pinch to zoom. It crops the image something that if you want to do you can do after you snap the image.
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basically all 99% of phone do when they zoom is actually crop and enlarge a group of pixels of the whole image this same process can be done on a computer with about 3x better results so this "flaw" is actually a useless feature only people with no knowledge of photography or photo editing use. if im taking a picture of something far away i would use a proper camera with a optical zoom.
basially digital zoom is useless and the iphone owner is obviously completely oblivious to the fact he actually ruined hes picture with zoom
havent you wondered why zooming in on a full picture looks better then a digital zoomed picture of the same object?
basically no flaw here and most companies dont see the point of digital zoom as it was a "feature" to attract people to the idea of cheap digital cameras when they first came out know even cheap ones have atleast a 2x optical zoom
incase you dont know:
digital zoom: lens doesnt move picture magically gets zoomed
optical zoom: lens moves and adjusts normally sticking further out of the camera to get a true zoom
You can always just crop it from the gallery if you want to "zoom"...
thanks guys I have learned slot from your replies.
Oh god...lets not start this again..last time someone stated this people started arguing about how useful/useless the feature was.
deja vu anyone?
Sue apple for false advertisement, there is no digital zoom, only crop in which all phones and pc, tablets, gaming console's do
I've found a way to zoom, get closer to the object ;-)
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
Growling Clover said:
I've found a way to zoom, get closer to the object ;-)
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
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LOL.
hes right tho. the zoom is only cropping a picture so it makes it less quality
I've owned alot of android devices over the past years and they all had zoom 'cept the Xperia but I quickly realized it's not a feature that is "good" it's one I never use because you are just making the camera worse
Growling Clover said:
I've found a way to zoom, get closer to the object ;-)
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
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LOL, thats classic!
the OP must be a new Xperia Play owner, cause that was the first thing i learned about our phones, followed by.... "CRAP, i cant unlock my Bootloader! WTF, i have to pay!?!....." lol
Its also true that teh zoom function is pretty useless.. ruins quality, actually, just ****s it up so you dont see anything.. Im glad it don't have zoom
All "zoom" is on any phone is digital zoom. Digital zoom is another word for "crop" take your already semi crappy pic with your play, put it in photo shop crop it, blow it up and volia you have an even ****tier image blown up with "zoom". I'm guessing you also think the more mega pixles a camera has is better image quality as well huh?
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Clienterror said:
All "zoom" is on any phone is digital zoom. Digital zoom is another word for "crop" take your already semi crappy pic with your play, put it in photo shop crop it, blow it up and volia you have an even ****tier image blown up with "zoom". I'm guessing you also think the more mega pixles a camera has is better image quality as well huh?
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Most people are unaware of the differences between digital and optical zoom, or lens diameter vs megapixels. It is our job as the experienced ones to educate the newbies.
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Would be great if we had a thread with some tips how to get the best photos with the Z1.
Any tips? Please share. I for one would love to dive in the magical world of digital photography. Think the Z1 is a great starting point.
Maybe we could even use this knowledge to create an awesome camera app for our z1.
I dont have a Z1 yet (planning to get one soon as my contract expires) but from what I have reading, Manual mode + Iso 50-200 seems to get the best result.
appelflap said:
Would be great if we had a thread with some tips how to get the best photos with the Z1.
Any tips? Please share. I for one would love to dive in the magical world of digital photography. Think the Z1 is a great starting point.
Maybe we could even use this knowledge to create an awesome camera app for our z1.
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Well, here's a couple of tips to start you off:-
1. Noise is an issue with the current camera firmware.
The best way to address this is to shoot in Manual mode where you will have a greater control over the shot.
Look at the ISO value and where possible change it to ISO 50. This will give the clearest noise free image possible.
2. Don't use Digital Zoom. Frame correctly and crop your images.
Often I hear of owners looking to zoom in as much as possible before taking the shot.
Whilst that is fine and dandy on cameras which have lens that support optical zoom, never ever use digital zoom.
Instead, take the shot using the full coverage of the shot (no zoom). This will then allow you to 'crop' the image to whatever zoom you wish and you can perform as many crops as you wish from one shot (top, bottom, left, right, centre of a shot)
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Morlock O said:
I dont have a Z1 yet (planning to get one soon as my contract expires) but from what I have reading, Manual mode + Iso 50-200 seems to get the best result.
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Apologies..... You posted this whilst I was compiling my post above.
Morlock O said:
I dont have a Z1 yet (planning to get one soon as my contract expires) but from what I have reading, Manual mode + Iso 50-200 seems to get the best result.
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Beards said:
Well, here's a couple of tips to start you off:-
1. Noise is an issue with the current camera firmware.
The best way to address this is to shoot in Manual mode where you will have a greater control over the shot.
Look at the ISO value and where possible change it to ISO 50. This will give the clearest noise free image possible.
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Aha! And which resolution do you advice in this mode? The full 20 MP resolution?
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2. Don't use Digital Zoom. Frame correctly and crop your images.
Often I hear of owners looking to zoom in as much as possible before taking the shot.
Whilst that is fine and dandy on cameras which have lens that support optical zoom, never ever use digital zoom.
Instead, take the shot using the full coverage of the shot (no zoom). This will then allow you to 'crop' the image to whatever zoom you wish and you can perform as many crops as you wish from one shot (top, bottom, left, right, centre of a shot)
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I saw an ad off Sony in which they suggested that one could do a 3x digital zoom without a compromise in quality. But I agree, why not take a full frame shot and zoom afterwards.
Btw nice to see you here Beards. How is your HD2
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Aha! And which resolution do you advice in this mode? The full 20 MP resolution?
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Depends on the shot...
If I still want to use Image Stabiizer or HDR I will change from 20MP to 8MP as 20MP does not support either of these features.
Further, for night shots the camera lens is not looking for stacks of detail. As such often for night shooting you can get away with a lower pixel shot.
I saw an ad off Sony in which they suggested that one could do a 3x digital zoom without a compromise in quality. But I agree, why not take a full frame shot and zoom afterwards.
Btw nice to see you here Beards. How is your HD2
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Yes, you can do the 3x digital but once you have done it this can lead to the next shot being over zoomed, that and it's always better to crop as you know.
P.S. Yes mate..... Nice to see you too.
And yes, I still have the HD2. Kept it for sentimental reasons
If Sony fixes the camera software, we'll all see a enormous difference in quality! Setting everything to manual will give you much better results. Now I tried the "Focal" camera app from the Playstore, and the low light shots are really, really awesome! The app itself is very minimalistic, but produces stunning results with the Z1! Give it a go, I'll try to upload some shots I took when I'm home!
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And yes, I still have the HD2. Kept it for sentimental reasons
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kept and still using mine hehe, anyway shouldnt we zoom in 3x losless(?) first then crop the photo? any further zoom than 3x is going to substantially lose the quality then?
im hoping to get my Z1 tmorrow so i can try out my theory hehe
Anadinolin said:
kept and still using mine hehe, anyway shouldnt we zoom in 3x losless(?) first then crop the photo? any further zoom than 3x is going to substantially lose the quality then?
im hoping to get my Z1 tmorrow so i can try out my theory hehe
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Ahh a fellow HD2 user. We are but a dying breed...
Re the 3x lossless digital zoom.
There are two issues here:-
1. All the 3x lossless zoom does is do what cropping does . It just restricts it to 3x to avoid over zooming where the shot would then look too pixelated.
2. Once you apply 3x zoom on any image that is it, you can't go back and say "blast! I should have zoomed in a bit less".
At least with the full frame you can make as many different crops as you like and apply it to any part of the image.
In other words where digital shooting is concerned shoot full then crop. 9 times out of 10 the software PP will handle it better anyway.
I would advice to download a more capable camera app for the moment until Sony fixes the severa problems they are having.
Otherwise I would NOT recommend using the Auto mode because right now it's seriously underperforming choosing the Manual setting would allow you for more options of course.
Turn off stabilization when capturing videos if you value the field of view because it's not OIS, this is Digital meaning it is cropping the picture instead otherwise the Steayshot feature is pretty solid