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EVO's camera is garbage

Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice

I like pics i take with it

magicalan said:
not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
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It's the software that comes with it I've tried other camera software like camera pro it snaps fast like really fast. Just that the software needs to be updated for the HTC EVO. Far as stock camera video its the software encoding sucks. The hardware is great just finding the right software or somebody develops one. Seems as if all the devs are busy rooting and tweaking the roms that HTC and Google should of done before even releasing software. Then maybe the devs can focus on making apps for us. Maybe somebody will soon develop better camera and video app that really take advantage of this great camera.
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AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you focusing the camera? Press and hold on the screen in the area you want to focus and it will focus and snap the picture. The pictures are pretty good (not DSLR quality or anything, but much better than most/all phones).

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
2. Yes, the video quality does suck ass, but its been made a whole lot better here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808. My evo is recording at 13 mbps in h.264, and the results are fantastic. We shouldn't have to be doing this, but at least its working.

It's a phone.
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Agreed. The camera sucks.. I think it's 8 in dog megapixels.

Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back

amirborna said:
Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Very true. Tons of megapixels really only help when you want to get huge prints. The two most important parts of a camera in my opinion are the image sensor and the lens, neither of which are going to be that great on any phone camera. I think the pictures the Evo takes are pretty good for a phone.

The evo camera isn't amazing... but if you need quality pictures, DON'T RELY ON YOUR PHONE. It's a ****ing phone! Get yourself a point and shoot or a DSLR.

Guys guys think about it phone cameras has came a long way from back in the early days. Soon these cameras will take the place of point and shoot. If you want better get DSLR. I have seen some great
Photos around the forum. The camera in this EVO are capable of taking great photos plus EVO has the processor to handle it more than what a point and shoot has. Soon cell phones will be getting dual cores. But until then it is this whack stock software that is processing the photos. Take the iPhone 5mp camera making the EVO picture look bad because they have a great camera software. Only if somebody can write a better camera app if I could code that would of been the first app I would of made. That and a better video conferencing app.
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Mecha2142 said:
Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
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As someone who has owned and used both the iPhone 4 and the Evo (returned my iP4 for the Evo), I can confidently say that the iP4's camera does indeed destroy the one on the Evo. I love my Evo and wouldn't switch back if you paid me, but the cameras aren't even in the same league.
The Evo takes photos which are on-par with the smartphones we've all seen and used over the last few years. They're okay. You can put the pics up on your website, etc., but I wouldn't rely on the Evo for anything particularly important. The iP4's camera, on the other hand, is just amazing. It can hold its own against any of the typical $200 - $300 non-DSLR cameras on the market and, therefore, can effectively be your everyday, walking around camera.
The best summary I can give is that the Evo's camera is a good to okay camera -- for a cell phone. The iP4's camera is a very good camera -- period.

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you judging the fuzzy picture at first glance? By that I mean preview after your shot or in gallery? Because sometimes the picture if you don't zoom in it can look really fuzzy and then when you zoom in a title bit it corrects the picture quality and be very clear. Also download them to your pc and see how they actually turn out. You might be surprised. I am an avid amateur photographer so I use DSLR to shoot pictures. In good light the camera and software combo isn't bad. It has horrible low light capability but then again its a phone camera. And as many people said a few tweak here and there with the software and it will make a big difference. I know when they tweaked the HTC HD2 phone I had it made a world of difference. I know it will happen on this phone too. We have to let some get past the linpacks and quadrant scores for a little while before cameras become the hot topic
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the pictures aren't the greatest but i have gotten some really good ones. I attached a few. People need to quit complaining though, it's a damn phone and the quality isn't half bad, if we can make it better then so be it but it's good as it is. These are from when i took my lil sisters to the zoo we were at the butterfly garden. I didn't edit these at all and they look even better on my phone

Its inferior to other devices so actually we should complain. Sure you can get nice shots but its anything but automatic.

I don't think it's that bad. Took this picture a month ago.

I agree on both sides here...the camera is pretty decent, but I do believe software improvements can and should be made.
Hasn't it been posted here that the camera manufacturer is the same as the ip4's?

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.

Cicatrize said:
I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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Exactly. I would have to say that's one of the reasons for the "megapixels aren't everything" argument. It's just a description of how many pixels the sensor can produce like you said.
If you have a bigger sensor (which is difficult in a cellphone camera obviously) like in a DSLR, you get bigger pixels. I freakin' love my new Canon Rebel T2i I just bought last week!

X10 vs Iphone 4 Camera Test ^ UPDATE! ^

Updated with Camera 360 tests
Hi everyone. Today i was a little bored so i decided to take some test photos with my x10 and compare vs my wife's iphone 4. Now i am not a photographer or anything like that..These are just amateur photos taken with stock settings and stock camera apps on both phones. The x10 is set at 8mp,single autofocus and the iphone is 5mp HDR off. I have cleaned the lens on both phones to get as clearer picures as they can. Now i do have shaky hands and it wasnt easy to get steady photos especially with the x10 as the iphone shutter is very quick and its a little bit easier. Here are the photos untouched..just they came out of the phones.
Iphone 4
X10 Stock Camera
x10 Camera 360 test 1
Camera 360 first two bigger size dont know why they came out smaller first time.
Iphone 4 vs X10 Camera 360 Close up
Edit: Did some pics with Vignette but they come up to over 5mb and imgeshack wont let me upload them..will find some other hosting site that will and will upload them too Big difference between stock camera and Camera 360 and Vignette.
Let me know what you think and if you have any requests for more comparisons ask me and i will try my best to do them.

Well though to some people the colours of iphone may sound better but to me(as i have some knowledge about photography)the colours on X10 are better as they sound natural unlike the colours on iphone's pics which looks over warmed and unnatural and as far as clarity and detail is concerned there is no doubt that X10 is way better(though in case of X10 you still shaked a bit in some photos)but still thumbs up dude for this comparison and yeah i would once again say X10's camera is better then iphone's

SK_007 said:
Well though to some people the colours of iphone may sound better but to me(as i have some knowledge about photography)the colours on X10 are better as they sound natural unlike the colours on iphone's pics which looks over warmed and unnatural and as far as clarity and detail is concerned there is no doubt that X10 is way better(though in case of X10 you still shaked a bit in some photos)but still thumbs up dude for this comparison and yeah i would once again say X10's camera is better then iphone's
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Yes, I agree with you. The colours taken by iphone is unnatural compared to photos taken by X10.
No doubt that SE camera is better than Apple, I think even other phone brand has better camera than iphone.
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Accuracy be damned. The pictures on the iphone look nicer, much nicer. And frankly, there is a strong blue tint to the x10 pictures, i find it hard to believe it was anywhere near that blue in real life.

I think we should post the poll in an iphone forum as well.. I mean its obvious the X10 is going to win here
I think 2 of the iphone pics were better than the X10, but yeah, once you zoom in, you can notice that the X10 pics were shaken a bit. Don't know if this is because the iphone is easier to hold or if the OP was simply so nervous about taking a pic with the X10 that he shook it
@OP:
1. Can you try turning image stabilization off in the X10.. I've found this has helped a lot
2. What about Vignette? We all know the stock camera isn't very good at post processing the image

JamesBarnes said:
Accuracy be damned. The pictures on the iphone look nicer, much nicer. And frankly, there is a strong blue tint to the x10 pictures, i find it hard to believe it was anywhere near that blue in real life.
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Strange my wife said the same thing that the x10 pics are too blue but the Iphones pics on the other hand are too yellow... if you look at the road on the first pic upclose you will see its yellow and on the x10 is gray as it should be..

pngface said:
I think we should post the poll in an iphone forum as well.. I mean its obvious the X10 is going to win here
I think 2 of the iphone pics were better than the X10, but yeah, once you zoom in, you can notice that the X10 pics were shaken a bit. Don't know if this is because the iphone is easier to hold or if the OP was simply so nervous about taking a pic with the X10 that he shook it
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Haha not nervous at all lol i just have shaky hands (too much coffee) the thing is that the iphones shutter is very quick and it takes the photo instantly as of the x10 i press the button and its slow so by the time it takes the pic my hands have moved? lol if that makes any sense..
@pngface the image stabilization is off actually and i will take some pics with Vignette tommorow i am pretty sure that even with the stock camera if i make some adjustments i would get better photos as it has so many options i wanted to do this to see how both cameras compare stock settings untouched. But i will make more photos tommorow possibly with vignette and will try different settings.

Does turning image stabilization off on the X10 actually give nicer photos? And if so, how could it?
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Great Comparison & X10 camera is way better than iPhone camera, no doubt about that. I'm not saying that x10 camera is perfect but it has more natural colours than iPhone camera. iPhone has overwarmed, unnatural yellowish colours.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Does turning image stabilization off on the X10 actually give nicer photos? And if so, how could it?
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Image stabilize effectively blurs the image slightly as to merge your shaky bits with good bits

yetep said:
Image stabilize effectively blurs the image slightly as to merge your shaky bits with good bits
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Hmmm....so by having image stabilization "on" you say it adds a slight blur to my pictures? Therefore, if I turn it off and take pictures the blur should be gone? Because I always had it on and have always noticed a slight blur in my pictures especially when I was comparing stock camera to vignette. Now, if this is the case maybe Im gonna have to recompare these two. But I guess vignette will still be better since that compression crap on the stock.

Forgetting about the colors (it's possible to adjust in post), in this default setting the iphone camera is much better. Just look at 100%, and you'll see what I'm talking about. The default x10 app compress the image too much, and the final details become a blurred mess (photo 2, compare the background wall, photo 4, look the trees and the leaves). I'm work as visual effects artist and have photography as hobby. Last month I opened a thread about a better camera app for x10, so I tried vignette but the results are not good. I don't know what happens (probably the demosaicing algorithm?), but at 100% you see very bad artifacts. I've been using Camera 360, it's a good alternative for the default app. In both apps you can set the image compression to none or very little, making the image more sharp. Anyway, I think even using very low compression the x10 will not be able to capture the detail that iphone captures.
I'm doing my best to be unbiased here. Yes, I hate the apple marketing...

rafaperez3d said:
Forgetting about the colors (it's possible to adjust in post), in this default setting the iphone camera is much better. Just look at 100%, and you'll see what I'm talking about. The default x10 app compress the image too much, and the final details become a blurred mess (photo 2, compare the background wall, photo 4, look the trees and the leaves). I'm work as visual effects artist and have photography as hobby. Last month I opened a thread about a better camera app for x10, so I tried vignette but the results are not good. I don't know what happens (probably the demosaicing algorithm?), but at 100% you see very bad artifacts. I've been using Camera 360, it's a good alternative for the default app. In both apps you can set the image compression to none or very little, making the image more sharp. Anyway, I think even using very low compression the x10 will not be able to capture the detail that iphone captures.
I'm doing my best to be unbiased here. Yes, I hate the apple marketing...
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Hmmm...I'm really pleased with vignette pictures....much nicer than stock..however now I'm gonna go try camera 360 like you suggested and compare. Thanks
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Nokia N8 versus X10 versus Iphone 4
Generally speaking (according to this test), the N8 has the best camera, followed by the X10 and then the iPhone 4 (although those last two are a close call).
However, based on the pictures posted in this thread, the Iphone 4 is obviously superior in capturing detail. The difference between the two phones is quite large.

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Hard to say which is better, for IPhone colors are oversaturated and our X10 sometimes fails in resolving details. Anyway a true shoot out must have and a third parties for benchmark - let say a midrange DSLR.

I totally agree with guys who voted for X10. I thought Nokia was leader with oversaturated colours but now I see Apple takes the lead . Only better image that iphone made is last one, and that is because x10 shaked.
Blueish tint generally shows if light source shoots into lens, or image is overexposed, and x10 images are bit overexposed, so feel free to adjust EV

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Hmmm....so by having image stabilization "on" you say it adds a slight blur to my pictures? Therefore, if I turn it off and take pictures the blur should be gone? Because I always had it on and have always noticed a slight blur in my pictures especially when I was comparing stock camera to vignette. Now, if this is the case maybe Im gonna have to recompare these two. But I guess vignette will still be better since that compression crap on the stock.
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Exactly! Stick wit non stock

X10 is better, the Iphone 4 dont look natural and the Quality of X10 is better. But i never make Image Stabilizator on becouse without it the Pictures look better but when you click the Button it shakes so i make the most of the Photos with the Touchscreen.

stabilisation use only in low light situation, when trying to capture still object

JamesBarnes said:
Accuracy be damned. The pictures on the iphone look nicer, much nicer. And frankly, there is a strong blue tint to the x10 pictures, i find it hard to believe it was anywhere near that blue in real life.
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Most people share that opinion when they move from a point and shoot compact camera to a semi professional SLR. The iphone haves too much post processing to increase the saturation of warmer colors. If you do get into photography you know what is good and real color is much better then the over processed ones as you may or may not post process it in photoshop to suit your goal on each specific photo.
From my point of view the X10 wins hands down. That said, I won't be using mine that much as it stands miles away from the quality I get with my Canon and Sony DSLRs.

[Q] Arc Camera

Hi guys I just noticed that you cannot zoom in 8Mp and 6MP da Arc and was wondering whats the point of having such a good camera without that function..
I also noticed that no zooming in video mode which is ridiculous..
Are there any apps to overcome this problem??
Thanks

You can take picture & zoom it after taking it

Wow...wtf thats pretty ****ty...

I really hate digital zooming it destroys the beauty of the picture. the pictures are big so you can crop them on your pc. digital zoom is ****ty...

Yeah I know...I want to zoom before taking the image...Cannot zoom in video mode as well....

blueblood619 said:
Yeah I know...I want to zoom before taking the image...Cannot zoom in video mode as well....
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1. Move your body closer to the object(s).
2. Get a tele lens for your Arc.
Digital zooming is crap. I never used it on my old prosumer camera.

arconfire said:
1. Move your body closer to the object(s).
2. Get a tele lens for your arc.
Digital zooming is crap. I never used it on my old prosumer camera.
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agreeeeeeeeeeee

ArcOnFire said:
1. Move your body closer to the object(s).
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Lol...next tell an astromer to take a space shuttle to the moon to get closer rather than using a telescope...

superutp said:
Lol...next tell an astromer to take a space shuttle to the moon to get closer rather than using a telescope...
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take picture inside of a telescope

blueblood619 said:
Hi guys I just noticed that you cannot zoom in 8Mp and 6MP da Arc and was wondering whats the point of having such a good camera without that function..
I also noticed that no zooming in video mode which is ridiculous..
Are there any apps to overcome this problem??
Thanks
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First, I found it ridiculous. But when remembering those blurr and low-quality photos on iPhone 4, I think Sony did a good job rather than fooling out customers.
Or use a third party software to zoom or crop.

well you can crop photos on the phone.. but I also think it would be good to have the zoom function on video tbh..
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http://talk.sonyericsson.com/thread/14283?tstart=0
I really had to laugh while reading this thread. ^^
I wouldn't mind the digital zoom gone (as I agree with the crap quality point), but why did they put it into the app in the first place?

I had a look around the SE forums a week or so ago, and that was one of the threads i looked at. Two things sprang to mind:
(1) Dont bother looking on the SE forums for help. SE representatives/mods are utterly useless. Dont think i saw any of them post a useful answer to any question or problem, they only seem to be able to type either: "it sounds like a software problem, reinstall your firmware", or "i dont know anything about that".
(2) SE should have left the digital zoom in, because you can never underestimate the stupidity of your customers. I particularly loved the prize specimen who, after being given a comprehensive and accurate answer why there's no point in having digital zoom, says "i dont want a lecture, i just want my zoom!". Ignorant twat.

You're just so right...

binku said:
First, I found it ridiculous. But when remembering those blurr and low-quality photos on iPhone 4, I think Sony did a good job rather than fooling out customers.
Or use a third party software to zoom or crop.
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Can you suggest any softwares please

Try "Reduce photo size"

SGS2 Camera

Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..

I dont see a point of using digital zoom in SGS2 or any other similar phone. It just cripples image quality, nothing else. Personaly I have never used it. And no. Im not dissapointed, Im quite impressed by the built in camera and its recording capabilities. If you wanted to zoom that much, you should have bought standalone camera with optical zoom. Phone is still phone you know.
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enzografix said:
I dont see a point of using digital zoom in SGS2 or any other similar phone. It just cripples image quality, nothing else. Personaly I have never used it. And no. Im not dissapointed, Im quite impressed by the built in camera and its recording capabilities. If you wanted to zoom that much, you should have bought standalone camera with optical zoom. Phone is still phone you know.
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jje

I have a range of rather nice dslrs like 5d mk2 ect, and I am impressed no end by cam. Video good also, best ive seen on a phone. Digital zoom is pointless and rather a consumer point than a feature. All I want to do is be able to alter aperture, android don't support this afak
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yohanevindra said:
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
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Optical zoom is the only good zoom. My tz10 has 12x optical and digital. Even if it had no optical you wouldn't switch digital zoom on as it just pixelates the image.
I'd be impressed if I was shown a camera that didn't ruin the picture with dz
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Like everyone else said, no point in using the zoom, it's worth nothing...

yohanevindra said:
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
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I think up to 2x digital zoom, the photo quality is still usable. Note: more higher ISO value, you will get more grainy & less detail photo. The digital zoom may only apply for low ISO setting only

I think the picture quality of the SGS2 is extremely good for a smart phone, after 2 weeks of use.
It's better than many real cameras i know of, which I wont cite (as fanboi wars aren't all that interesting )
if you zoom zoom and zoom all cameras will show grain. the grain it shows is always different and the one of the sgs2 is actually pretty good. I know many professional photographs who actually zoom like that and if they can't zoom as far as their 12MP camera they say it's poorer quality. That's just poor judgement (specially when its their job...).
Of course the resolution of 8MP is lower than 12MP for example, but resolution != quality. Zooming for such pics is also utterly pointless, unless you plan to print a huge poster from your phone camera shots.. but even then, 8MP isn't all that bad.
For everything else, theres huge 2000E+ DSLRs.

genus said:
I think up to 2x digital zoom, the photo quality is still usable. Note: more higher ISO value, you will get more grainy & less detail photo. The digital zoom may only apply for low ISO setting only
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Usable = subjective, depends on use
as a contact pic maybe
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Samsung Galaxy Camera vs Canon PowerShot SX260 HS

Ok guys, I have a "blind test" for you. Which one of this 2 photos, u like best.
Both camera settings were: P-mode, ISO100, Spot light metering, SuperFine quality, 0.0x optical zoom, no flash (in-door lighting), AWB.
Since I use P-mode, the Aperture and Shutter speed were automatically set by each camera.
PS: I will add more photos to this blind test, the left side will always be photos from *censored* and the right side will always be photos from *censored*
After the poll closed, I will tell you the "identity" of the left photos and the right photos.

If you want everyone to vote, you need to add an "I can't see any material difference" option to the poll .

Claghorn said:
If you want everyone to vote, you need to add an "I can't see any material difference" option to the poll .
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LOL.. forget about that "option"... but i can't edit the poll... is there a way to edit the voting poll?

In my opinion, the one on the right is a bit grainier, and both of them are a little soft on focus. Would really prefer to see both cameras at the same distances (ideally one with no zoom and one with) shooting at a standard target. DPreview has a good example for the PowerShot, but neither they nor their "Connect" site has a Galaxy Camera review.

after zooming in it seems the one on the left is a bit sharper.
and you left the exif data in, so it's still possible to tell which is which if you download the pictures.
I voted before checking which was made with which camera.

EwanG said:
In my opinion, the one on the right is a bit grainier, and both of them are a little soft on focus. Would really prefer to see both cameras at the same distances (ideally one with no zoom and one with) shooting at a standard target. DPreview has a good example for the PowerShot, but neither they nor their "Connect" site has a Galaxy Camera review.
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About the zoom feature, SGC anti-shake is really bad. I shot an object with maximum optical zoom (21x) using a tripod, and still couldn't get a clear shot. The problem is, when we hit the shutter button, our finger pressure on the shutter button will make the camera move albeit really little (almost unnoticeable). The anti-shake should compensate for this, but it doesn't.
With the Canon camera and a tripod, I can get a clear shot easily using max optical zoom 20x which means the anti-shake does the job well.
My personal solution for this is, I use 2 seconds timer. After I hit the shutter button, I immediately lift my hands of the camera (it is on the tripod) so the camera has enough time to get back into "steady position" and I can get a clear shot.
thedicemaster said:
after zooming in it seems the one on the left is a bit sharper.
and you left the exif data in, so it's still possible to tell which is which if you download the pictures.
I voted before checking which was made with which camera.
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LOL, yeah, I know about the EXIF, just doesn't bother to delete it. Figures if the participants really wants to know the answer immediately, they could just download the pic and read it themselves :laugh:

Using voice control also prevents the button press from shaking the camera, but it does seem silly to talk to your camera (and it only worked well for me in very quiet conditions when I was playing with it).

Claghorn said:
Using voice control also prevents the button press from shaking the camera, but it does seem silly to talk to your camera (and it only worked well for me in very quiet conditions when I was playing with it).
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As most of the photos I take a in quiet locations (in the middle of the woods) this seems like it would benefit the technologically equipped nature enthusiast. My curiosity lays with the camera/phone durability in the elements and the quality of the shots while on the go. Versatility of those qualities would sell this product to me.
Other qualities I seek are how the camera responds to IR lighting at night and how it handles the common accidental drop.
I think this guy is the start of a beautiful line of products we should hope to see in the future. It would definitely halt my project of creating a USB 76mm zoom attachment for the daily smart phone. (that's as much detail as you'll get until I finish! If I finish...)

80000037 said:
About the zoom feature, SGC anti-shake is really bad. I shot an object with maximum optical zoom (21x) using a tripod, and still couldn't get a clear shot. The problem is, when we hit the shutter button, our finger pressure on the shutter button will make the camera move albeit really little (almost unnoticeable). The anti-shake should compensate for this, but it doesn't.
With the Canon camera and a tripod, I can get a clear shot easily using max optical zoom 20x which means the anti-shake does the job well.
My personal solution for this is, I use 2 seconds timer. After I hit the shutter button, I immediately lift my hands of the camera (it is on the tripod) so the camera has enough time to get back into "steady position" and I can get a clear shot.
LOL, yeah, I know about the EXIF, just doesn't bother to delete it. Figures if the participants really wants to know the answer immediately, they could just download the pic and read it themselves :laugh:
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For SGC, Samsung actually recommends against using OIS with a tripod. But of a limitation, but in theory, with a tripod you may not need OIS. I may be wrong though, as I know squat about cameras.
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uberNoobZA said:
For SGC, Samsung actually recommends against using OIS with a tripod. But of a limitation, but in theory, with a tripod you may not need OIS. I may be wrong though, as I know squat about cameras.
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I can't comment on this camera in particular as I don't have it "yet" but I am a photographer and I can confirm that using stabilization whilst on a tripod can have the adverse affect on the image and is generally better for the image quality if you turn it off, if you are using a tripod. There can be exceptions to this however, if you're using a telephoto lens (or in the case of this camera, using the zoom guilt extended) and there is slight movement in the camera from wind for example.
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uberNoobZA said:
For SGC, Samsung actually recommends against using OIS with a tripod. But of a limitation, but in theory, with a tripod you may not need OIS. I may be wrong though, as I know squat about cameras.
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RavenY2K3 said:
I can't comment on this camera in particular as I don't have it "yet" but I am a photographer and I can confirm that using stabilization whilst on a tripod can have the adverse affect on the image and is generally better for the image quality if you turn it off, if you are using a tripod. There can be exceptions to this however, if you're using a telephoto lens (or in the case of this camera, using the zoom guilt extended) and there is slight movement in the camera from wind for example.
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So are you saying that if I want to shot with 21x optical zoom + tripod, I should just turn off the anti-shake?

80000037 said:
So are you saying that if I want to shot with 21x optical zoom + tripod, I should just turn off the anti-shake?
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Yes, the guidance for most OIS systems is that if the camera is on a tripod you should turn off anti-shake as the device will then keep trying to compensate for something that isn't there. You end up burning battery, and the lens will often make micro moves to compensate for what "should" be there.
The one exception would be if the tripod itself isn't stable (wind, etc), but then you would question what the point to using the tripod is in that case.

Left pic is sharper.

I think the left is more vibrant.

Rather than ISO100, how about 800 or higher? Almost any camera, even the cheapest, can do OK at ISO100 in good light.

Entropy512 said:
Rather than ISO100, how about 800 or higher? Almost any camera, even the cheapest, can do OK at ISO100 in good light.
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I do ISO 100 on purpose.
SGC noise is bad starting from ISO800 and up, while the Canon still has good quality pic on ISO800 and up.
If I compare the pic on ISO800 plus, everyone will easily know which one the canon and which one the SGC
please note that my purpose showing this comparation is not to show that SGC pic quality can beat or on par with Canon SX260, I just want to show that for normal photography, SGC is sufficient enough.

first of all i'm not a professional photographer and based from my point of view, left picture is more vibrant than the right picture.