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Im thinking of trading my xperia for an omnia or a touch pro. Thoughts about that decision? Im really split up to be honest. Help me m8s since you guys probably know alot more about the phones then i do.
Omnia has no hardware keyboard, screen res is lower and its generally not as highly rated as the touch pro/xperia
Screen res is quite substatially lower though.
touch pro - quite simular to the x1. Screen is again smaller, lower res, but the keyboard gets better reviews (5 rows, arrow keys) than the xperia. The handset has a cheaper feel to it than the xperia, but its predominately down to taste above all else. If you like the look and feel of the touch pro then it's not a bad choice really.
Personally I've been holding out for the Xperia due to the screen really. My job requires a lot of remote desktop work - so the screen works really nicely for that purpose.
Can't think of any other disadvantages of the Omnia/TP but im sure there are lots, particularly for the Omnia - It's really a different class of phone.
yeh thats what i thought too. Im kind of getting used to the screensize now so anything else will be sort of crap now haha Il keep it as i think its kind of future proof. All i lack is touchflo 3d then im all good. Thanks for the help m8.
what would say it depends on your usage if your big on texting and web browsering x1 would be good given the screen and resolution is better on the x1 it will give you a better viewing experience also with the arc slide
touch pro is good but smaller screen and lower resolution touch pro doesn't have a curve making it easier to look at
the omina not really in the same league as the x1 and touch pro
it's more of a iphone type phone
but i have had none of the phones but i'm bias because i prefer slide out keyboards
Thats true. Well it came down to that it was sony ericsson for me and i know their support for the phone will be top notch and i think ive made the right decision apperently since a new sdk is already out.
Switching to Omnia? You must be short on sleep due to playing with the X1 to too long. It's definately a two horse race between Touch Pro and X1. I'm in a similar boat and choosing between the two, and I've ultimately decided to wait until the X1 is released in the UK in November (assuming it isn't pushed back again), and feel them both in my hand before commiting to one. Here's what I've got in my head:
The advantages the pro has over the Xperia:
- Better Keyboard (Feedback, arrow keys)
- TV-out (which in a way kind of negates the screen disadvantage, because you can always use it when resolution/size makes a difference. http://i37.tinypic.com/dpcnyp.jpg )
- Standard size means it won't suffer incompatibility/scaling issues
- Accelerometer means it can use software/features the Xperia can't.
- Larger community = more apps, fixes, ROMs etc. The TP is able to draw from both the Pro and the Diamond community, both of which individually are bigger than the Xperia's and could remain so for the forseeable future. (though to be fair X1 hasn't been released long enough to say this for sure. )
Advantages of Xperia over TP:
- Despite 32MB less RAM and the same processor chip, it supposedly starts up faster, runs programs with less lag and has superior video playback than a TP with a decent cooked ROM. This is what I'm having most trouble believing, but will swing me in its favor if benchmarks etc prove it true.
- Appears to require alot less effort to reach full "potential". Whereas TP pretty much requires flashing and applying numerous fixes for sound etc, the Xperia seems to be at least it's equal with just the stock ROM. A significantly smaller community doesn't matter as much if you don't need tweaks and fixes to the same extent.
-3.5 mm jack (though I personally don't mind using an adapter)
- Better battery life (But the TP does have extended batteries available. Have no idea how much bulk they add though)
- Better signal strength (though the reviewers were probably comparing to the TP's early stock ROM)
- Better looks/build quality. (I personally prefer the looks of the TP though. Maybe I'm just crazy)
- Panels (Though I don't really see the huge deal about them.)
My verdict
Unless any of the advantages of the TP matter to you, I'd say you're absolutely fine sticking to the X1 with no regrets. Whichever the ultimate victor between the two of them is, the other will be just behind. I'm personally leaning towards the TP as the superior QWERTY (might as well have the best one if it's the main feature), TV-out and larger community matter more to me. But if the Xperia really is that much quicker, than I'll may just sacrifice them.
@samme: you still consider selling your X1? I am in Uppsala, and thinking of getting one too
Nah im keeping it got to play with a touch pro today and when having the x1 for awhile now it felt like a plastic toy and the omnia isnt really a choice so im fine with the x1 for a year atleast
Was wondering if Samsung Omnia II is a worthy upgrade from HTC touch HD??
Any suggestions?
I had a hand-on experience with Omnia2.
The WM shell is completely replaced by SS, I find it quite good but Manila is better.
Video speed is much faster. I do a benchmark & get 245% while on THD is 109%
The colour is more intensive that I think it is not so real (I put the 2 mobile next to the monitor & see the THD's colour is closer to the computer's)
In my perference, it is not a worth upgrade. Touch HD 2 with 4.3" screen & multitouch is a better wait.
nuclear0508 said:
I had a hand-on experience with Omnia2.
The WM shell is completely replaced by SS, I find it quite good but Manila is better.
Video speed is much faster. I do a benchmark & get 245% while on THD is 109%
The colour is more intensive that I think it is not so real (I put the 2 mobile next to the monitor & see the THD's colour is closer to the computer's)
In my perference, it is not a worth upgrade. Touch HD 2 with 4.3" screen & multitouch is a better wait.
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Agreed. I think it is not a worthy upgrade. Samsung's widget might be appealing but I still think TF3D does the job better for both business and entertainment purposes. And personally, I wouldn't risk switching to a non-htc device and lose peer support in XDA.
THD2 is definitely abetter wait. Although I'm nt too sure on its battery life yet but I am fascinated about its clock speed. I'm not very satisfied with the processor speed of my current THD so for my next upgrade, the processor speed will be a major determinant.
Let´s think about these:
HD to HD2
Upgrade: Processor, screen (bigger, capacitive, multitouch), camera, RAM capacity
Downgrade: videoconference, battery
HD to OMNIA II:
Upgrade: Processor, camera, screen (AMOLED), battery, compass, 2, 8 or 16 GB adittional
Downgrade: screen (-0,1"), "TF3D"
Thanks u all...will wait for HD2 aka LEO
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Let´s think about these:
HD to HD2
Upgrade: Processor, screen (bigger, capacitive, multitouch), camera, RAM capacity
Downgrade: videoconference, battery
HD to OMNIA II:
Upgrade: Processor, camera, screen (AMOLED), battery, compass, 2, 8 or 16 GB adittional
Downgrade: screen (-0,1"), "TF3D"
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leo has stepped processor so might not need such a powerful battery.
SE X3 looks awesome also....
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leo has stepped processor so might not need such a powerful battery.
SE X3 looks awesome also....
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Not such a powerful battery with 4,3" screen and 1000Mhz? They could optimize de processor but respect HD (-10% battery has de HD2), have duplicate the Mhz (more consumption) and a bigger screen (+0,5"). Need wait to take out the first HD2...
It is a nice phone though...
I just picked up an i8000 and have been using for 3 days on US ATT.
The screen was the first and BEST impression...absolutely GORGEOUS!
But I was blown away by the battery life! It is phenomenal!! I used it all day as I normally would've used my ATT Fuze/HTC Touch Pro (which would drop to about 20% by 7PM) and I was only at 65%!
Speed is very nice too...Touch Wiz is OK...I agree not as good as TF3D.
Never played with the Blackstone but compared to ATT Fuze...I'm very happy!
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The colour is more intensive that I think it is not so real (I put the 2 mobile next to the monitor & see the THD's colour is closer to the computer's)
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You're assuming, of course, that your monitor's colour re-production is perfect.
Of course the HD looks to be more similar to your monitor, which is most likely also an LCD.
If your monitor were an AMOLED screen, then the OmniaII would more likely be the closer match but, once again, that wouldn't necessarily mean it was more true-to-life, just that it was closer to what you were already used to.
Personally, having compared a number of OLED screens on phones to LCD ones, I'd say that OLED is by far the superior technology, makes LCDs look very dull and drab.
But that's just my personal preference and, as always, YMMV.
Looking at this SGS2 review http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s2-en.shtml
Just before half way down the page you can see some comparison shots between sgs2 and sgs screens.
Is it just me, or does the "Plus" sgs2 screen seem more grainy than the original sgs screen? Horizontal lines seem much more visible aswell.
Do you think this is just a product of the photography, and not a reflection of real appearance? Or is this the result of decreased pixel density, or space between pixels on the larger screen? Or is this a disadvantage of the traditional RGB layout?
Just wanted to get some other thoughts on the matter. I suspect that I the photos may not tell the full story, I definitely would like to see the screens in person
better color depth
Yeah I think it's an artifact of the photography.
Look at the first ones with the leaves, the SGS has some vertical artifacts going on and the SGS2 doesn't.
meh...
I still believe that the Galaxy s II it's not worth my attention right now.
My galaxy s can do all i need, the screen is super awesome (one of my friends with a desire hd was completely astounded by the awesome colors and contrast) and the battery is somewhat good for a 4" samoled screen (thanks darky ).
the point is: why the hell should I sell my beautiful SGS, then buy for around 500€ an SGS II? I'l wait for better devices later.
My SGS will last at least 2 year more!
Indeed the better screen would be nice but I'm not sure the other hardware improvements will really bring much improvement at this time.
My plan has always been to use the SGS for 1.5-2 years. Perhaps by that time we'll have RGB SAMOLED screens with higher resolution, batter battery life, better software (including the OS and apps making use of dual core and faster GPUs), etc..
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Indeed the better screen would be nice but I'm not sure the other hardware improvements will really bring much improvement at this time.
My plan has always been to use the SGS for 1.5-2 years. Perhaps by that time we'll have RGB SAMOLED screens with higher resolution, batter battery life, better software (including the OS and apps making use of dual core and faster GPUs), etc..
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that's exactly what I meant.
the sgs is awesome, and I don't feel the need to change device every 6 months
it's definitely better to just wait for when the technology will be better, dual core (or quadcore maybe?) processors will be fully optimized, screens will have less battery consumptio, there will be fast-charge batteries, android will be even more awesome and customizable, etc..
I suppose that in a mere 2 years this might be the tech scenario around smartphones
Wish I could stay with my sgs, but the pentile screen is driving me nuts. Don't know how you guys can stand it. Ice cream can't be that far away..
i hope the sgs 3 become a tegra 2 chip because sony will implemented ps2 games in their platform and mobile phones with tegra 2 can play too with the playstation app. my sgs will belong to me for 1,5 years after that i will see.
Damn, this russian guy has a galaxy s II. So if he know how it works he'll may be able to get to the internal apps like the hubs and the touchwiz. But I dont know for sure, if he really needs root permissions to access the system-binary
But there also was a russian guy, who rooted the galaxy s @ first
Lets hope for these russian guys. Maybe we'll get these nice applications also for our good "old" galaxy S ;D
Well, and one thing I also have to say is that I will keep my sgs as long as possible
In the dark future, when there wont be any official upgrades for android by samsung there will be always a source of hope
These guys from cyanogen mod are awesome and maybe we will also get the icecream update and MHL feature to use a usb2hdmi cable lets hope for the best guys
Ths SGS 2 already uses a RGB matrix:
http://www.oled-info.com/tags/super-amoled-plus
http://fonefrenzy.com/tag/super-amoled-plus/
http://www.oled-info.com/tags/super-amoled
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Ths SGS 2 already uses a RGB matrix:
http://www.oled-info.com/tags/super-amoled-plus
http://fonefrenzy.com/tag/super-amoled-plus/
http://www.oled-info.com/tags/super-amoled
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No one has said otherwise?
haloimplant said:
Indeed the better screen would be nice but I'm not sure the other hardware improvements will really bring much improvement at this time.
My plan has always been to use the SGS for 1.5-2 years. Perhaps by that time we'll have RGB SAMOLED screens with higher resolution, batter battery life, better software (including the OS and apps making use of dual core and faster GPUs), etc..
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No one has said otherwise?
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i read wrong?
I know the SGS 2 SAMOLED+ is RGB, at 800x480 resolution. What I meant was higher resolution, like say 'qHD' 960x540, but still RGB not pentile again.
haloimplant said:
I know the SGS 2 SAMOLED+ is RGB, at 800x480 resolution. What I meant was higher resolution, like say 'qHD' 960x540, but still RGB not pentile again.
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Oh. OK, sorry. i misunderstood.
I want to start a thread with my own review, but im placing it here cause it's more like a thread-starter than actual review.
Usage of smartphones general, and why is Desire Z still extremely useful phone:
1. Hardware keyboard: there are many YT videos showing speed typing on various devices, like iPhone, and Android tablets/phones, but nothing can compare to the actual keyboard. the main advantage, in my opinion is the fact that for a very short time, one can learn to type like using a PC keyboard - without looking. and that feature makes this phone as an actual mobile station for all sorts of stuff that emulate laptop usage. second advantage is clear screen when typing. that is pretty much the reason why I cant imagine to type on a non-hardware phone anymore.
2. material quality - hard casing, and not just compared to other companies, but also compared to the other HTC devices. This phone is like an homage to early indestructible phones that were not intended to be like that (3310, 6210, 7650) Is it weight, is it experiment from HTC (there are 20+ types of plastic for making plastic stuff like casings) or something else, but this phone is the hardest phone I had, and I had Samung Android, iPhones, SE, you name it.
And on top of that, keyboard hinge wont break. I cant find more than 5 forum posts using google where someone complains of broken Keyboard hinge.
And, on top of top of that - "Vision" are the last in HTC production line to have licenced Cornig Gorilla Glass. Sensation XL and phones after that have HTC's substitute glass. (God knows why)
3. Screen - let's start with SLCD - You will find many reviews stating that it's a bad product, cause of the viewing angles. Viewing angles being the MOST retarded property of a screen, marketing vise. WHO watches a screen from an angle, more than 3 seconds, in their life ? So, when we putt aside that property - you have screen (PVA panel) that produces colors maybe even better than IPS. People get easily tricked by Samsung marketing, when they read stuff like: "SUPER AMOLED 2" - like a trailer for Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. And it is in fact - regular OLED screen with active matrix, and digitizer stuck onto the screen itself. Oh my, what a wonder. It was, for sure, made so when you break the SGS2/Note screen, you pay arm and a leg for replacement. Buying digitizer and screen at the same time. And the worst part is that AMOLED is nowhere near that good, saturation is awful (my personal opinion), and >4.0 inch phones with AMOLED have bad colors (google "Note screen problem", "SGS2 screen problem"
Resolution of screen - How come that people get so hyped by late Steve, whenever "retina" was mentioned .. ? ~250PPI is better than "retina" (326PPI)!!!
My neighbor is a rich bastard, and he has every single product Apple made, so I had a chance to see that "retina" and it hurt my eyes. Reading non-zoomed web pages on Desire Z is barely possible, doing the same on 4s is NOT possible.
it is not the pixelation of a font that is problem, it is the possibility of reading such small font. Any other aspect for that matter, is just a marketing trick.
250PPI is perfect. I dont care what journalists say about the new iPad, I dont see anything near suggested with the "retina" hype.
4. High-end phone properties - CPU
CPU is similar to the last of the x86 Intel CeleronD single core series - insanely overclockable. and like that, VERY usable. SGS2 exynos (ARM Cortex A9 @ 1.2Ghz) on stock clock has a problem of playing "Ice breaker" game (for some reason this game draws FPS lag on many devices) and on 1.5Ghz OC-ed DesireZ it runs smooth. "Fragger" game slows down extremely on SGS2 when 3 bombs are thrown simultaneously, and that doesnt happen on 1.5Ghz DZ. Dont know about other games on other phones, or Benchmarks for that matter, but this is my personal experience with SGS2 VS DZ (my brother has Samsung). Never really believed Benchmark scores since Intel started to temper with official results back in 2008 (Benchmark software in favor of Intel, compared to AMD)
I am aware of single core/dual core differences, but that is why one can flash DZ with G-slim or G-lite and enjoy the speed.
5. High-end properties - features
apart from resolution that is constantly growing on new devices, name 1 thing that DZ doesnt have ? This is NOT a midrange phone for housewives to share instagram photos, this is a serious device
Flaws -
1. it comes with crappy headphones. I myself soldered Koss Sparkplug earbuds to HTC stock headphones so I could enjoy the sound and still have cable-control buttons.
2. It is heavy. I see how many people could have problem with that but for me it's a good thing, cause I tend to lose phones, but with this one, I know where it is (pocket, jacket, etc..) and it "feels right" when holding it.
conclusion - This phone is Awesome. If I would buy a new, more expensive phone, I would like it to be 4.0 exact design like DZ, stronger CPU and slightly greater resolution. nothing more.
My only real problems with the phone is that it's too thick and heavy at times, it has severe death-grip reception issues with both wifi and mobile reception at my house where i have very little reception. Then, the thing that seems to let it down the most is the limited 512mb of RAM that it has, which makes it difficult to run Sense 3.* ROMs and such. Otherwise, i'm very happy with my phone and i agree with the points that you made . This is the best phone i've ever had!
Actually, my keyboard is slowly deteriorating >.<, a bunch of keys have stopped responding upon soft presses and need to be pressed firmly for any feedback.
Still a mid level phone. Everything i need is with DZ.
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Still a mid level phone. Everything i need is with DZ.
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I don't see how it's a mid level phone. Maybe performance wise, but it feels quite premium in almost every other aspect.
Wow, that was a kind of a roundhouse kick against all actual hypes.... i like!
I am totally at ur side. The only things i would like to have improved ist cam and ram, and size of screen. But thats kind of wishing, while taking a look at actual state of the art phones...
...at least a HTC ONE S with a HWK sounds nice to me (without AMOLED )
@crestofawave - I believe that he forgot to put "not" word after the "Still" word cause that way it makes sense.
@Superfr34k - Android users are real, compared to Apple, and even they fall under marketing influence. there are many things that do not make sense today, like when you buy a big LCDTV, you see on samsung producsts feat that says:
2 billion colors
standardized results via experiments gave 100.000 colors (human subjects), and biological calculations gave 10 million in the best case. So, this "2 billion" number stands only for Cylons and Terminators. not humans.
high resolution phones make sense, not because of the "retina" and other stuff, but because of only this feat: Wireless Full HD display mirroring. cause I dont see how one can use 1080p on a 5inch device.
all that stuff is the reason why this phone offers 90% of usage, and thats not for an average user, im talkingh about advanced users and their needs.
well
I think that the let down is the wieght, and cpu, it was 1ghz many people say it would be slightly faster which is good enough for me.
I hope they release another HTC Desire Z 2 like motorola releases droid 1 ,2 ,3 etc
If not I might have to get Galaxy S3 which Im not happy about touchscreen only phones nothing beats a qwerty keyboard
This is correct place to put a review since its general and nothing else. Op mentioned to put it here since not an "actual" review...no place else to do it
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Totally agree with everything in this article, and I know a whole lot of others do as well.
Unfortunately, it seems the cell phone market is swinging away from good phones like the G2/Desire Z. I will be keeping this phone until I see a worthy successor w/ hardware keyboard.
In all honesty, this is the best Android powered phone that I've owned, and that includes having previous phones like the Samsung Galaxy S, LG Optimus T and MyTouch 4G. The only complaint that I ever had with this phone is that I wished that the camera was a little sharper, as the full sized 5 MP pictures always seem to come out a little grainy. Usually decreasing the photo size with photoshop or other software solves that problem.
The camera is just a minor complaint, and I honestly don't expect high quality digital camera type quality from a phone camera. It would just be nice to have... that's all Other than that... it was a great phone when I got it, and it continues to be a great one. It runs all the apps I need it to, and I don't have any random crashes or force closes.
@Igoritza All the same.
I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with you. Especially the points you raise about the screens, Samsung with AMOLED, and Apple with Retina. Merely marketing baloney for their mindless fanatics.
I had no idea our desire z's screen were made of gorilla glass, Mayb I should drop it down the stairs to see how it holds up????
Bottomline there isn't many devices like the HTC Vision
The viewing angle on my screen is amazing. I did get a replacement screen a while ago so maybe mine is a newer revision?
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I love this phones' keyboard - it is made perfectly.
I have used Galaxy S before, and must say, that modified Desire Z is much faster than modified GS.
What I hate in DZ is its PERFORMANCE. Probably it's android systems natural drawback, that with designed UI like sense it's so slow, laggy and buggy.
Our phone runs smoothly only the AOSP GB what is really annoying.
I'n using Sensewich rom and it makes Desire Z feel like a brand new phone, even CM7 doesn't come close to this. I'm sure that once those changes make their way to other ICS roms and bugs are ironed out most of us will be satisfied with DZ for another year or so.
It's soooo smooth, *drool*
@shadal, I'd have to disagree with you. While our phone is obviously not iPhone smooth, it is a considerably fast device with a bit of overclocking (about 1.0-1.2GHz), on anything but Sense 3.x, maybe MIUI as well. Other than that, just about every other ROM I've flashed has been very fast in general.
Sense really isn't that bad...well, 3.x wasn't the best HTC could offer but 4.0 is VERY promising, tried it and it was so incredibly!!! smooth.
So yeah, AOSP has and will have an edge in performance but it seems like HTC is closing the distance...
i love my dz as well, but thinking about buying a nexus because of the larger screen/amoled. want to read ebooks on the phone. but for the dailystuff, whatsapp/email/calls it´s more than enough. bought a mugenakku and i´m very happy with that combination. the only thing i don´t like is the lcd, it really drains more than amoled. but i think i´m gonna wait with a new phone, but i´m pretty sure a phone with quadcore isn´t needed, i think quadcore is only needed for games, but i rarely play games on my phone.
I have a G2 just to be clear.
I just flash the latest Ice Cream JIBwich 2.0 which is based on the Andromadus Beta 1. They added the newly released GPU drivers from Qualcomm and this thing is fast and smooth now. Gives it new life, way faster than it ever was with GB.
Pretty damn happy with these ICS ROMs.
@tarroyo - please dont drop it down the stairs Gorilla has frontal indestructability (doesnt get pierced by bullets or arrows) but it does not endure side pressure. it will crack
@Shure2 - maybe it's IPS and not SLCD. HTC made a special order to Sony for supplies of SLCD's for making new 3.8 phones, but their initial supplier of 3.8 screens was Hanstar - IPS manufacturer that supplies ASUS and Apple. It is Hanstar company fault that HTC had to find alternative because they blackmailed them. So, yeah, your replacement could very well be from initial batches.
@miscz - I tried Sensewich but I need teh cam the cam itself is not that good, but changig ISO from AUTO to 100 improves "everyday photo shoot", and people's faces quality, or should I say - grainy photos are less grainy and better looking. whoever didnt know about this, should try (less ISO means how much camera is sensitive to light, but it also means shorter shutter speed)
it would be nice if someone knew of an App that lets you alter aperture and shutter, thus improving custom settings and making better pictures with DZ cam.
I've been having great experiences with Andromadus. I regret not having rooted my phone in the first year of owning it, seeing as a simple overclock and new rom has made it so much faster.
The thing I'll miss the most when I switch to a new phone is the lack of a physical keyboard... none of the new flagship phones have physical keyboards, and I'm not convinced that I could type anywhere near as quickly on an on screen keyboard if it's not on a tablet.
@Igoritza: I don't think there will be any thing we can really do to our cameras to catch up to all the latest and greatest phones now =[ No matter how I try, pictures from the iPhone 4S or Galaxy Note are far better. I guess we can come close in extremely well lit environments, but even in conditions which are slightly sub-optimal, our cameras tend to perform worse than theirs.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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scpion said:
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
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I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.