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Rooting Guide For A Noob

i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks

viper3ez said:
i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
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First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.

Christopher3712 said:
First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
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th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight

viper3ez said:
th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.

See, I have read about VISIONary and know what it does. Problem is I cant find it in the market place. Rrquested a download link and used QR, neither worked. I dont care about anyone being mean over the net as far as I get the help I need like you gave. I'm new to android and not stupid so I think I can handle rooting a phone.
I intend to keep reading to learn bit I still ne er d help with things like absence of visionary from the marketplace.
Btw is there an alternative for VISION ary?
1337squirrel said:
Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
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Well I care about the meanness, because I need to ask questions from time to time, and I DO search and read threads, so I know how it feels when someone gets uppity about your question.
Anyway, I think I was wrong about it being in the Market. It is posted as a thread in this sub-forum, or as link somewhere, but anyway, you have to download it from here. Best of luck!
Oh, and I'm not sure about alternatives to VISIONary, but I think the only alternative to it would be the original HTC G2 exploit, and whatever command-line stuff that entails. Dunno if that stuff was even posted online; it probably exists with the developer(s) who originally found the exploit.

Please post questions in the Q&A section.

help me root

i wanna root so i can put 2.2 on my phone ebol idk how to root it tho please help

dco717 said:
i wanna root so i can put 2.2 on my phone ebol idk how to root it tho please help
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You will be lucky if you don't get flamed for such a question.. I will tell you there is a one click root you can use on your computer. I will also let you know you can search for it on these forums and with google.. And lastly, YOU NEED to research a little before you can just do these things to your phone..you can FUBAR it. Flashing 2.2 is a pretty wild goal for having a question like this.. Read the sticky in this forum called beginners.. And check the included links..when your a little more familiar with things and have some better questions I will be more than glad to help.. Good luck
Rocking dj05 and jt's voodoo 5

I have to agree with neh4pres above. There are sticky threads and a thread clearly saying walkthrough for EB01 in the development section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
This will provide you with everything you need. Remember to READ carefully, read again, and then read again. Too many people dont read the instructions and end up with problems on their phone.

dco717 said:
i wanna root so i can put 2.2 on my phone ebol idk how to root it tho please help
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the next time we here from the op will be in a thread called "help, i bricked my phone!"
Sent from my stock 2.1
unrooted, fully bloated (for now) Fascinate

before you flash you must know

hello everybody ..
i been following XDA-Developers for many many times . actually i learn everything for root and flash etc from XDA .. i'm using Overcome Kernel and rom .
My Advice To You before you even go for flash a kernel you must do 1 simple step to avoid bricking your tab cuz trust me i already bricked it many times
but after reading and learning i knew how to do all the steps for flashing a kernel or a rom and after all , trust me it is easy you only have to follow the developer steps
anyways
before you flash a new kernel you must go here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071 )
you have to download the bootloader before flashing anything , read the topic and am sure you'll find your way to flash by this topic. any questions don't feel shy to ask i can guide you by my Experience
hope the topic was helpful for the new users

Yeah, just download bootloader checker to check if you bootloader is signed / locked before you update to another custom rom. Anyway, if it is locked, it does not permanent brick your tab. Just restore using odin pit file if anything happen while updating. However the danger to patch your bootloader MAY permanently bricked your tab. Brick means your tab no longer be able to patch but a need to change the motherboard is the only way to restore your tab.
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tnx for your kindness reply

Whilst I appreciate your enthusiasm, there really is no need to post a thread that simply links to a sticky thread. It's stickied for a reason.
If you want to boost your post count with stuff that's not valuable then please do it in the "off topic" section, and watch out for the trolls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261

johncmolyneux said:
Whilst I appreciate your enthusiasm, there really is no need to post a thread that simply links to a sticky thread. It's stickied for a reason.
If you want to boost your post count with stuff that's not valuable then please do it in the "off topic" section, and watch out for the trolls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
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My thoughts exactly.
Reported as spam.

@OP:
Please refrain from creating threads which cover existing topics; instead post your comments/suggestions in the ongoing thread.
Closed.

Wanting to root my tab, need an idea of where to look

I have the jelly bean update, but am not 100% sure of the exact firmware at the moment. I am looking for a general starting point, I have already unlocked it, but need to root and install custom recovery. I will answer any questions needed to help me out.
Thank you in advance,
Section 8

There are sticky topics at the top of this very forum waiting for you to read them.

sbdags said:
There are sticky topics at the top of this very forum waiting for you to read them.
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I've been through them, am not sure which one to follow.

Some people shouldn't flash phones!!!

Sorry to rant, but I know this forum is to help people get more from their phones, but quite a lot of people still are incompetent, and can't follow basic instructions!!!! Take for instance, the modem problem, where you lose your imei or imei starts with 0049, read the stickies!!! Read the guides!!! Back up your efs!!! Virtually every post in dev forum has someone who didn't read properly!!! Another thing is people not understanding what BETA means!!! Android 4.3 is fairly new, and the great devs have done a sterling job bringing it to our s3's....things are not gonna work perfectly straight from the off! There will be bugs!! Please please use search first!!!!

They are deaf and blind towards this thread, just as they are towards instructions and such
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A standard in flashing anything is make a good nandroid you can go bk on and many efs bkups and have the right modem. And last but not least don't flash nothing that's not ment for your phone. It's just a shame that s3 threads are full of old information that's no use to no one now a days. S2 threads are upto date and more useful I have found.
I9100/I9300

It's just a shame that s3 threads are full of old information that's no use to no one now a days. S2 threads are upto date and more useful I have found.
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Basic reasons for that are the general page gets flooded with non relevant stuff .
Any user can and has posted a guide even when wrong in parts .
SGS3 has had a number of critical changes during its life in regard to guides . One SDS and two new EFS as examples ,Noobs don't bother looking and would prefer to post a question that was asked in the last hour . Many boobs are non XDA brick their phone and end up on XDA via Google .
Many many experienced members just get sick and tired of the same repetitive help posts and no longer bother .
Why go to the trouble of making a guide and spend your next thousand posts telling users to read the guide first .
SGS3 simply has a poorer new users base as anyone with no knowledge will flash anything . There was a time when this was a developers forum and new users started out by learning the basics first .
jje

JJEgan said:
It's just a shame that s3 threads are full of old information that's no use to no one now a days. S2 threads are upto date and more useful I have found.
I9100/I9300
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Basic reasons for that are the general page gets flooded with non relevant stuff .
Any user can and has posted a guide even when wrong in parts .
SGS3 has had a number of critical changes during its life in regard to guides . One SDS and two new EFS as examples ,Noobs don't bother looking and would prefer to post a question that was asked in the last hour . Many boobs are non XDA brick their phone and end up on XDA via Google .
Many many experienced members just get sick and tired of the same repetitive help posts and no longer bother .
Why go to the trouble of making a guide and spend your next thousand posts telling users to read the guide first .
SGS3 simply has a poorer new users base as anyone with no knowledge will flash anything . There was a time when this was a developers forum and new users started out by learning the basics first .
jje
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The higher the quantity, the lower the quality, it's a principle that applies to mankind itself
Sent from my liquid glowing bomb shell

I understand the changes it's had but say for instance root. I had problems rooting this the other day. I really wanted to stay away from odin cuz I don't like it and it bricks phone. I looked and read for guides on how to but all that was there was no good for me. But alone my travels I learned a lot about how efs changed and am very grateful for the info that has bin put down about this. But it's scattered info. If some one made a guide and made it a sticky on how to root for every change then I could of just gone to this read it and would never of had to ask the question. On s2 there is a guide on how to root every firmware all in one. Read it and jobs done your rooted weather is gb or ics or jb it's all there and how to do it. If more thread like this are made then it would be a better place I think. Same with imei problems. Read it and jobs done. Imei sorted. Like I said the info on s3 is scattered about and hard to find what's right and what's not. Odin lol info on that I went bk to @Hopper8 guide on that cuz it's probably the best guide out there on any thread to solve problems with it. I read I understood and rooted my phone no problems. Like I said iv never use odin but now I'm the boss of odin. But if I did have problems I no that guide would of got me out of the jam. Basics are one thing but actually using these are different in the real world.
I9100/I9300

andrewwright said:
I understand the changes it's had but say for instance root. I had problems rooting this the other day. I really wanted to stay away from odin cuz I don't like it and it bricks phone.
That is not true .
I looked and read for guides on how to but all that was there was no good for me.
Stickied faqs and guides Post One Understanding the basics before rooting .
Post two EFS .
. Same with imei problems.
Stickied faqs and guides are not scattered all over the place .
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Out of top 3 guides in sticky roll-up...
Pm'd zoot1. He updated to point to cf auto root instead of cf root
Pm'd jonnny for advice about noob thread. Good thread, absent op. Needs to go (shame) or not point to cf root as cwm 5 is sds dangerous
Pm'd op of flashing guide as root method is insecure kernel flash. Ics method. No response. Offline for months. Again shame to lose. Will ask @Jonny for advice
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JJEgan said:
andrewwright said:
I understand the changes it's had but say for instance root. I had problems rooting this the other day. I really wanted to stay away from odin cuz I don't like it and it bricks phone.
That is not true .
I looked and read for guides on how to but all that was there was no good for me.
Stickied faqs and guides Post One Understanding the basics before rooting .
Post two EFS .
. Same with imei problems.
Stickied faqs and guides are not scattered all over the place .
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Iv spent all my time on xda on s2 threads.
Odin don't brick phones people brick phones. But the risk of using odin over cwm/twrp is massive. Say the power go's out or pc/laptop shuts down... Game over. This is why I never used Odin or had to in just under two years with my s2. I read lots of threads just for the sake of it. Stickies I never did. One reason... No user feed bk. Real world feed bk cuz there locked. You see no one really wants to go from link to Link to link and read and read and read when if a thread was opened and all them links were all in the same thread at the top and users could add there own feed bk to it on how they did restore there imei and others could read it and work out how to do it there self instead of posting "how do I restore imei" think about it... If a thread was in q and a now on how to do that there would be half them threads not made. Like in s2 q and a. Take a look at "how to restore you imei in 9 steps" on q and a. Great feed bk and people send people there. It's well known and used. If you can't restore from that it's service centre job.
I9100/I9300
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The "stickies" aren't actually stickied. Just linked in one locked sticky to keep it tidy. All those threads linked have user feedback.
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rootSU said:
Out of top 3 guides in sticky roll-up...
Pm'd zoot1. He updated to point to cf auto root instead of cf root
Pm'd jonnny for advice about noob thread. Good thread, absent op. Needs to go (shame) or not point to cf root as cwm 5 is sds dangerous
Pm'd op of flashing guide as root method is insecure kernel flash. Ics method. No response. Offline for months. Again shame to lose. Will ask @Jonny for advice
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Why not create a new thread for the noob and flashing guides, copy the previous posts but correct with current info, then adjust sticky to point to the new thread.
Original poster could still be acknowledged, without leaving noobs using dangerous tools.

boomboomer said:
Why not create a new thread for the noob and flashing guides, copy the previous posts but correct with current info, then adjust sticky to point to the new thread.
Original poster could still be acknowledged, without leaving noobs using dangerous tools.
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If I had the time, I would consider it but they both only need a tiny adjustment. 1 needs to point to cf auto root. Another needs root section removed. Rather than remove the thread, if a moderator would allow the concept of suggesting the updates, that's the quickest step. If not, then your suggestion is the only realistic one. Lets see what jonny says. I don't really like replacing existing threads with my own unless completely necessary.
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rootSU said:
Pm'd jonnny for advice about noob thread. Good thread, absent op. Needs to go (shame) or not point to cf root as cwm 5 is sds dangerous
Pm'd op of flashing guide as root method is insecure kernel flash. Ics method. No response. Offline for months. Again shame to lose. Will ask @Jonny for advice
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Oops, sorry for not replying - I meant to and got side tracked then completely forgot about it (been doing overtime at work so also tired which doesn't help my memory)

Jonny said:
Oops, sorry for not replying - I meant to and got side tracked then completely forgot about it (been doing overtime at work so also tired which doesn't help my memory)
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No probs jonny.
In the i9300 roll-up sticky thread, the 2nd and 3rd guides both point to outdated root methods. Would like to hear your opinions on how to deal with them. Shame to lose them. Edit preferable from my perspective but what's your take?
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I'm a s3 noob but had no probs rooting (without odin) and flashing roms. All the info is there if u can be bothered to read. I knew all about imei etc well before I even got the phone. The problem nowadays is that its too easy to root and flash, which means that a user do not need any knowledge of android. Its like giving a 5 year old a gun, eventually something bad will happen.
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rootSU said:
No probs jonny.
In the i9300 roll-up sticky thread, the 2nd and 3rd guides both point to outdated root methods. Would like to hear your opinions on how to deal with them. Shame to lose them. Edit preferable from my perspective but what's your take?
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First thing to do would be to PM the OP's of those threads and ask if they would be willing to update their threads, if they are then great, if not then if someone is willing I can transfer the post ownership to them to edit
Edit: Yes editing would be preferable to deleting the threads.

Jonny said:
First thing to do would be to PM the OP's of those threads and ask if they would be willing to update their threads, if they are then great, if not then if someone is willing I can transfer the post ownership to them to edit
Edit: Yes editing would be preferable to deleting the threads.
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Thanks jonny. I will pm link 2 op. I have already pm'd link 3 op several weeks ago with no response. Im happy to make the edit to remove the root part of the guide if that's ok?
To be clear, its this thread by intratech... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26530736
We just need to edit out the root section which involves using odin to flash an ics insecure kernel...
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biggary said:
Sorry to rant, but I know this forum is to help people get more from their phones, but quite a lot of people still are incompetent, and can't follow basic instructions!!!! Take for instance, the modem problem, where you lose your imei or imei starts with 0049, read the stickies!!! Read the guides!!! Back up your efs!!! Virtually every post in dev forum has someone who didn't read properly!!! Another thing is people not understanding what BETA means!!! Android 4.3 is fairly new, and the great devs have done a sterling job bringing it to our s3's....things are not gonna work perfectly straight from the off! There will be bugs!! Please please use search first!!!!
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True.
It's like a sickness on the other note why Samsung put such important area unprotected... Didn't see lg / HTC guys have this problem before I think
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andrewwright said:
Odin don't brick phones people brick phones. But the risk of using odin over cwm/twrp is massive. Say the power go's out or pc/laptop shuts down... Game over. This is why I never used Odin or had to in just under two years with my s2. I read lots of threads just for the sake of it.
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No. No. No. There is literally a millisecond of flashing that can fully brick your device if you lose power. The files are SO small that they're done in less than the blink of an eye. If you lose power on system, cache, data, kernel, or recovery flashing. Its always recoverable. (As long as its for your device originally.)
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b-eock said:
No. No. No. There is literally a millisecond of flashing that can fully brick your device if you lose power. The files are SO small that they're done in less than the blink of an eye. If you lose power on system, cache, data, kernel, or recovery flashing. Its always recoverable. (As long as its for your device originally.)
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It took 1min and 30sec for auto root to finish and odin to say pass on the laptop.
My point is is that I think that cwm/twrp is safer. Much much safer than odin. And if a person flashes something not ment for your phone then that person needs to buy an iPhone and stay well aways from Android.
I9100/I9300