I could really use some ones help me root my phone and get 2.2 froyo I would really appreciate if some one can help me please. Can help one reply and show me how
Do you want root + custom rom, or just stock froyo.
I will tell you that stock froyo leaves a LOT to be desired and the custom ROMs are incredibly better.
Help me out whats best for me to do so I wont be able to crash my phone lol thank you for replying
Honestly, you are better off rooting on your stock 2.1, read the noob guide.... will add more shortly.
After you read that, you will note all you need to do is move update.zip and flash it (in the guide).
Boom, you have root... now download Rom Manager, flash CWR, and create a backup (also in the guide).
Now that you have a backup of your system, backup your apps (Titanium Backup app), in the guide.
Now, download a custom ROM and flash it with CWR..... I recommend Trigger V2.5. You can go to the dev section and find it, or click the link in my signature to watch a video if you like. If on your phone best to watch the video embedded in his thread so the annotations show up.
there is no quick way of doing this
u need to do some reading
in s15274n click on the "My noob guide" read it, then read the "My Vibrant Guide",
then if u have questions about really specific things, people will help you out.
read lots before u start flashing roms, because it is risky.
hope this helps, i am new to the android world too and been reading lots lately, my phone should be here soon though
Ok I will root right now and reply when I am done but where is the noob guid?
my signature, or the sticky in the Q&A section.
Ok checking. I have been reading lots also bc I don't wanna mess up my from that's why I am asking for help you know lol
s15274n noob guide has all you need, rooting is pretty simple and there are A LOT of videos showing step by step for rooting, flashing a rom, updating a theme etc.... so welcome, after a couple of weeks you will be so happy with the phone it will blow your mind
Thank you I'll be back guys i need to help my brother with some stuff. Right now the first I'm doing is rooting so i have the undate.zip in the internal right gonnd turn off my phone and do it
I read those guides posted by s15274n and others countless times before i rooted, then I read them again. Read them until there is no question in your mind as to what your doing. Read the rom flashing guides as well, as you'll more than likley want to put a custom on on after you've gained root. Thanks to s15274n and the other members who have taken the time to make easy to follow guides and tutorials.
Ok I root it now download a Rom right. But what is Trigger V2.5.
I'm looking for the Trigger V2.5 but i dont find it I see Trigger V2.0.1
look in the development section of the vibrant forums..anyway..trigger 2.6 got released today..here is the link for the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921453
(click where it says "download trigger 2.6")
Sorry to rant, but I know this forum is to help people get more from their phones, but quite a lot of people still are incompetent, and can't follow basic instructions!!!! Take for instance, the modem problem, where you lose your imei or imei starts with 0049, read the stickies!!! Read the guides!!! Back up your efs!!! Virtually every post in dev forum has someone who didn't read properly!!! Another thing is people not understanding what BETA means!!! Android 4.3 is fairly new, and the great devs have done a sterling job bringing it to our s3's....things are not gonna work perfectly straight from the off! There will be bugs!! Please please use search first!!!!
They are deaf and blind towards this thread, just as they are towards instructions and such
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A standard in flashing anything is make a good nandroid you can go bk on and many efs bkups and have the right modem. And last but not least don't flash nothing that's not ment for your phone. It's just a shame that s3 threads are full of old information that's no use to no one now a days. S2 threads are upto date and more useful I have found.
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It's just a shame that s3 threads are full of old information that's no use to no one now a days. S2 threads are upto date and more useful I have found.
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Basic reasons for that are the general page gets flooded with non relevant stuff .
Any user can and has posted a guide even when wrong in parts .
SGS3 has had a number of critical changes during its life in regard to guides . One SDS and two new EFS as examples ,Noobs don't bother looking and would prefer to post a question that was asked in the last hour . Many boobs are non XDA brick their phone and end up on XDA via Google .
Many many experienced members just get sick and tired of the same repetitive help posts and no longer bother .
Why go to the trouble of making a guide and spend your next thousand posts telling users to read the guide first .
SGS3 simply has a poorer new users base as anyone with no knowledge will flash anything . There was a time when this was a developers forum and new users started out by learning the basics first .
jje
JJEgan said:
It's just a shame that s3 threads are full of old information that's no use to no one now a days. S2 threads are upto date and more useful I have found.
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Basic reasons for that are the general page gets flooded with non relevant stuff .
Any user can and has posted a guide even when wrong in parts .
SGS3 has had a number of critical changes during its life in regard to guides . One SDS and two new EFS as examples ,Noobs don't bother looking and would prefer to post a question that was asked in the last hour . Many boobs are non XDA brick their phone and end up on XDA via Google .
Many many experienced members just get sick and tired of the same repetitive help posts and no longer bother .
Why go to the trouble of making a guide and spend your next thousand posts telling users to read the guide first .
SGS3 simply has a poorer new users base as anyone with no knowledge will flash anything . There was a time when this was a developers forum and new users started out by learning the basics first .
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The higher the quantity, the lower the quality, it's a principle that applies to mankind itself
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I understand the changes it's had but say for instance root. I had problems rooting this the other day. I really wanted to stay away from odin cuz I don't like it and it bricks phone. I looked and read for guides on how to but all that was there was no good for me. But alone my travels I learned a lot about how efs changed and am very grateful for the info that has bin put down about this. But it's scattered info. If some one made a guide and made it a sticky on how to root for every change then I could of just gone to this read it and would never of had to ask the question. On s2 there is a guide on how to root every firmware all in one. Read it and jobs done your rooted weather is gb or ics or jb it's all there and how to do it. If more thread like this are made then it would be a better place I think. Same with imei problems. Read it and jobs done. Imei sorted. Like I said the info on s3 is scattered about and hard to find what's right and what's not. Odin lol info on that I went bk to @Hopper8 guide on that cuz it's probably the best guide out there on any thread to solve problems with it. I read I understood and rooted my phone no problems. Like I said iv never use odin but now I'm the boss of odin. But if I did have problems I no that guide would of got me out of the jam. Basics are one thing but actually using these are different in the real world.
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I understand the changes it's had but say for instance root. I had problems rooting this the other day. I really wanted to stay away from odin cuz I don't like it and it bricks phone.
That is not true .
I looked and read for guides on how to but all that was there was no good for me.
Stickied faqs and guides Post One Understanding the basics before rooting .
Post two EFS .
. Same with imei problems.
Stickied faqs and guides are not scattered all over the place .
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Out of top 3 guides in sticky roll-up...
Pm'd zoot1. He updated to point to cf auto root instead of cf root
Pm'd jonnny for advice about noob thread. Good thread, absent op. Needs to go (shame) or not point to cf root as cwm 5 is sds dangerous
Pm'd op of flashing guide as root method is insecure kernel flash. Ics method. No response. Offline for months. Again shame to lose. Will ask @Jonny for advice
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JJEgan said:
andrewwright said:
I understand the changes it's had but say for instance root. I had problems rooting this the other day. I really wanted to stay away from odin cuz I don't like it and it bricks phone.
That is not true .
I looked and read for guides on how to but all that was there was no good for me.
Stickied faqs and guides Post One Understanding the basics before rooting .
Post two EFS .
. Same with imei problems.
Stickied faqs and guides are not scattered all over the place .
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Iv spent all my time on xda on s2 threads.
Odin don't brick phones people brick phones. But the risk of using odin over cwm/twrp is massive. Say the power go's out or pc/laptop shuts down... Game over. This is why I never used Odin or had to in just under two years with my s2. I read lots of threads just for the sake of it. Stickies I never did. One reason... No user feed bk. Real world feed bk cuz there locked. You see no one really wants to go from link to Link to link and read and read and read when if a thread was opened and all them links were all in the same thread at the top and users could add there own feed bk to it on how they did restore there imei and others could read it and work out how to do it there self instead of posting "how do I restore imei" think about it... If a thread was in q and a now on how to do that there would be half them threads not made. Like in s2 q and a. Take a look at "how to restore you imei in 9 steps" on q and a. Great feed bk and people send people there. It's well known and used. If you can't restore from that it's service centre job.
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The "stickies" aren't actually stickied. Just linked in one locked sticky to keep it tidy. All those threads linked have user feedback.
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Out of top 3 guides in sticky roll-up...
Pm'd zoot1. He updated to point to cf auto root instead of cf root
Pm'd jonnny for advice about noob thread. Good thread, absent op. Needs to go (shame) or not point to cf root as cwm 5 is sds dangerous
Pm'd op of flashing guide as root method is insecure kernel flash. Ics method. No response. Offline for months. Again shame to lose. Will ask @Jonny for advice
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Why not create a new thread for the noob and flashing guides, copy the previous posts but correct with current info, then adjust sticky to point to the new thread.
Original poster could still be acknowledged, without leaving noobs using dangerous tools.
boomboomer said:
Why not create a new thread for the noob and flashing guides, copy the previous posts but correct with current info, then adjust sticky to point to the new thread.
Original poster could still be acknowledged, without leaving noobs using dangerous tools.
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If I had the time, I would consider it but they both only need a tiny adjustment. 1 needs to point to cf auto root. Another needs root section removed. Rather than remove the thread, if a moderator would allow the concept of suggesting the updates, that's the quickest step. If not, then your suggestion is the only realistic one. Lets see what jonny says. I don't really like replacing existing threads with my own unless completely necessary.
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Pm'd jonnny for advice about noob thread. Good thread, absent op. Needs to go (shame) or not point to cf root as cwm 5 is sds dangerous
Pm'd op of flashing guide as root method is insecure kernel flash. Ics method. No response. Offline for months. Again shame to lose. Will ask @Jonny for advice
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Oops, sorry for not replying - I meant to and got side tracked then completely forgot about it (been doing overtime at work so also tired which doesn't help my memory)
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Oops, sorry for not replying - I meant to and got side tracked then completely forgot about it (been doing overtime at work so also tired which doesn't help my memory)
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No probs jonny.
In the i9300 roll-up sticky thread, the 2nd and 3rd guides both point to outdated root methods. Would like to hear your opinions on how to deal with them. Shame to lose them. Edit preferable from my perspective but what's your take?
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I'm a s3 noob but had no probs rooting (without odin) and flashing roms. All the info is there if u can be bothered to read. I knew all about imei etc well before I even got the phone. The problem nowadays is that its too easy to root and flash, which means that a user do not need any knowledge of android. Its like giving a 5 year old a gun, eventually something bad will happen.
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No probs jonny.
In the i9300 roll-up sticky thread, the 2nd and 3rd guides both point to outdated root methods. Would like to hear your opinions on how to deal with them. Shame to lose them. Edit preferable from my perspective but what's your take?
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First thing to do would be to PM the OP's of those threads and ask if they would be willing to update their threads, if they are then great, if not then if someone is willing I can transfer the post ownership to them to edit
Edit: Yes editing would be preferable to deleting the threads.
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First thing to do would be to PM the OP's of those threads and ask if they would be willing to update their threads, if they are then great, if not then if someone is willing I can transfer the post ownership to them to edit
Edit: Yes editing would be preferable to deleting the threads.
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Thanks jonny. I will pm link 2 op. I have already pm'd link 3 op several weeks ago with no response. Im happy to make the edit to remove the root part of the guide if that's ok?
To be clear, its this thread by intratech... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26530736
We just need to edit out the root section which involves using odin to flash an ics insecure kernel...
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Sorry to rant, but I know this forum is to help people get more from their phones, but quite a lot of people still are incompetent, and can't follow basic instructions!!!! Take for instance, the modem problem, where you lose your imei or imei starts with 0049, read the stickies!!! Read the guides!!! Back up your efs!!! Virtually every post in dev forum has someone who didn't read properly!!! Another thing is people not understanding what BETA means!!! Android 4.3 is fairly new, and the great devs have done a sterling job bringing it to our s3's....things are not gonna work perfectly straight from the off! There will be bugs!! Please please use search first!!!!
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True.
It's like a sickness on the other note why Samsung put such important area unprotected... Didn't see lg / HTC guys have this problem before I think
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Odin don't brick phones people brick phones. But the risk of using odin over cwm/twrp is massive. Say the power go's out or pc/laptop shuts down... Game over. This is why I never used Odin or had to in just under two years with my s2. I read lots of threads just for the sake of it.
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No. No. No. There is literally a millisecond of flashing that can fully brick your device if you lose power. The files are SO small that they're done in less than the blink of an eye. If you lose power on system, cache, data, kernel, or recovery flashing. Its always recoverable. (As long as its for your device originally.)
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No. No. No. There is literally a millisecond of flashing that can fully brick your device if you lose power. The files are SO small that they're done in less than the blink of an eye. If you lose power on system, cache, data, kernel, or recovery flashing. Its always recoverable. (As long as its for your device originally.)
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It took 1min and 30sec for auto root to finish and odin to say pass on the laptop.
My point is is that I think that cwm/twrp is safer. Much much safer than odin. And if a person flashes something not ment for your phone then that person needs to buy an iPhone and stay well aways from Android.
I9100/I9300
This thread is to help people figure out what root method is for them and where to go to find out how.
Please simply direct members to this thread or the individual threads for each method.....there's no need to repeat this stuff in thread after thread. A quick link and good luck message keeps XDA clean.
Please send a thanks (with that little thanks button thingy) to these dedicated members who worked hard at these guides and methods.
***A WORD of WARNING!!!*** No matter the model, dev edition....locked bootloader, unlocked bootloader.... Doesn't matter....NO MOTO X can be safely downgraded from 4.4.2 or higher. Not without GREAT risk. (4.4 can be downgraded to 4.2.2 POST camera update for SlapmyMoto root method...but NOT to 4.2.2 PRE camera update.....that will equal a guaranteed brick.) Got it? Good!
Further, due to security features of the phone, the parts which past root/disable write-protection processes exploit, will fail to downgrade, so for those with locked bootloaders you couldn't use the processes for previous versions anyway.
Unlocked Bootloaders (Any Android Version)
Note: See Post 70 for Bootloader Unlocking info.
So, you got a Dev Edition or another model that can have its bootloader unlocked.....awesome! You got it made! Doesn't matter what Android version you're on, the procedure is the same.
Too root, see this awesome GUIDE . There's a section on "How to Unlock your Bootloader.". And a section on "Rooting Unlocked Bootloader." OR after you unlock your bootloader you may root by following -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 Please be sure to use the latest TWRP fastboot IMG file and Installable ZIP of SuperSU
Easy! Done!
Don't know if your bootloader can be unlocked? See Post 70
Locked Bootloaders on 4.4 or lower ONLY (At&T, Verizon and Republic Wireless...and those who just don't want to unlock their bootloader, due to warranty or whatever.)
Now it gets tricky!!!
For devices still on 4.4 or lower you can root AND disable write protection! Awesome!! But....to stay this way...you can never upgrade your android version past 4.4. As it stands today anyway.
Again, see this great GUIDE and read the section on "Rooting Locked Bootloader.". This is quite involved and takes some work. Read read read....and proceed carefully.
(Thanks to @jcase for creating the methods used to achieve this. ��)
If you're already on 4.4.2 or higher....sorry, this will NOT work for you. And no, you can't downgrade from 4.4.2.... Not without great risk!!! Whoever says otherwise....is just plain wrong.
If you have a LOCKED Bootloader and are on 4.4.2 or lower, You could try JCASE's SUNSHINE tool. It will check if your phone is compatible first, if it is and you want to proceed, you will be charged about $25 USD. If it works on your phone it will Unlock the bootloader without destroying data and without needing a code from Moto or the former China Middleman option. For more, please see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 and/or -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487 Once your bootloader is unlocked via Sunshine, you then root the same way developer edition or other unlocked bootloader users root (flash TWRP, boot into it, and let it root, or flash SUperSU).
Locked Bootloaders on 4.4.3 and 4.4.2 (Tho, for 4.4 or lower, the method above will give you write protection disabled....a big plus!!)
Well, you can achieve root, but unfortunately, write protection will still be enabled. Meaning...no writing to the system partition, and any changes you make, root wise, will reset after a power down or hard reboot. So some root apps will work fine....and some may not.
This app by @iKrYpToNiTe combines towelroot with pie and is very simple to use. Works up to Android 4.4.3 Check out this thread for his TowelPieRoot for the Moto X app!
Locked bootloaders on Android 4.4.4
Unfortunately, there is no root method for you guys as of today. And again....no....you can't downgrade. Not without significant risk., and even if you could downgrade, due to security features of the phone, the parts which past root/disable write-protection processes exploit, will fail to downgrade, so you can't use those old processes anyway.
Update: There is a VERY RISKY method to root for Verizon and ATT 4.4.4 users that have a LOCKED bootloader. See -> Moto X Root AT&T/VZW [KXA21.12-L1.26] You are required to be on a particular firmware level, it does NOT disable write protection, it only roots. It is risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
Locked bootloaders on Android 5.1
Again....no....you can't downgrade. Not without significant risk.
There is a VERY RISKY method to root for Verizon and ATT 5.1 users that have a LOCKED bootloader. See -> Root for Moto X ATT XT1058 5.1 [LPA23.12-21.1] You are required to be on a particular firmware level, it does NOT disable write protection, it only roots. It is risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
There is no option yet for other models with Locked bootloader, like Verizon or Republic Wireless, because as of this edit, 5.1 has not been released for for them.
I'd like to list all the threads I linked and credit the members who created these great guides.
For lots of Moto X info and help, there's this great Guide by @dray_jr
[REF]The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread
@iKrYpToNiTes app TowelPieRoot for the Moto X automates the towelroot/pie setup.
A great outside link here by @KidJoe , the Motorola Moto X How To page (The only outside link here......cause it's really good!)
And let's not forget my friend @Perseus71 for this great Moto X resource thread!!! [INDEX][REF][GUIDE][TUTORIAL][RESOURCE] Welcome to your Motorola Moto X - Resource
And a special thanks to our Moto X support Gurus. These guys bust their humps helping the Moto X community and can help with almost any issue!! Just post an issue anywhere in the Moto X section and they are sure to show up!
@samwathegreat and @KidJoe
If these guys tell you something....I can assure you its very solid advice!
I hope this clears up the confusion with rooting your Moto X. Follow the links based on your situation.... And read, read and read again....then do!!!
You can ask questions here if you wish and hopefully the community can assist you....but you would probably be better served asking in the links to your root method.
Happy Rooting!!
Additional option for having root with write protection enabled......
From @iKrYpToNiTe :
Okay for any user who is on 4.4 and lower they can root and disable write protection. Then they can install safestrap and flash any stock based rom to the stock slot. They then need to boot into the bootloader to flash the new stock kernel and baseband via fastboot, then reboot and enjoy
my old stock based 4.4.2 rom is here http://rootzwiki.com/topic/116025-romsafestrap-unlockedxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-164552-kitkat-442/
Remember to thank the man if you visit his thread.
Thanks ikryptonite for the addition. ?
Reserved again
This is great. Thanks for taking the time to put this together dude.
@iKrYpToNiTe
I would love for you to write up something and pm me about your ROM method and exactly who it can apply to? Short, sweet and a link to your thread. And I'll add it to the opening post.
I've always been unlocked.... I don't know enough about your method.
Also similar roms that work the same? If you don't mind. ?
you can pm me and I'll add it in.
Thanks my friend! (You don't have to of course.... Just thought your ROM and similar are options too)
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This is great. Thanks for taking the time to put this together dude.
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I hope it gets read! Lol. The guys that made those threads put a lot of work into them. Yet new root threads pop up daily.
Let's stop repeating root steps and start pointing to the info already available guys.
KJ said:
I hope it gets read! Lol. The guys that made those threads put a lot of work into them. Yet new root threads pop up daily.
Let's stop repeating root steps and start pointing to the info already available guys.
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+1 !!!!!!!!!
I might suggest a few things to clear up the 4.4.2 and Pie, and.... on LOCKED bootloaders.
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Locked Bootloaders on 4.4.2 and lower.
Well, you can achieve root, but unfortunately, write protection will still be enabled. Meaning...no writing to the system partition, and any changes you make, root wise, will reset after a power down or hard reboot. So some root a apps will work fine....and some may not.
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I would remove "and lower" as while that statement applies to 4.4.2, "lower" would then mean 4.4.0 which SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo still work to root and disable write protection.
Something else I would re-consider... While I agree this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 is great and contains a lot of useful information, it seems to me that many newbies don't understand it, or overlook the information they seek which is why they are asking questions.
For rooting with an unlocked bootloader, might I suggest telling people to get the latest TWRP, SuperSU, and mFastboot, then use -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 does not include how to setup and configure ADB and mFastboot, put them in your path, etc. Something like this -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/ADB.htm. It is needed unless someone uses a "tool kit" to root, and many new users don't have a clue about Platform Tools, ADB, or mFastboot.
Heyo there! Looks great so far. Just needs a little formatting and this could be really helpful! I'm humbled by having my name linked in the same thread as jcase and geohot. I do believe @iKrYpToNiTe made an app which makes the Pie+Towelroot easier making my version obsolete.
dier325 said:
Heyo there! Looks great so far. Just needs a little formatting and this could be really helpful! I'm humbled by having my name linked in the same thread as jcase and geohot. I do believe @iKrYpToNiTe made an app which makes the Pie+Towelroot easier making my version obsolete.
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That will be coming. No way I'm attempting any of that on my mobile browser. Lol. Makes me wanna step on the phone.
As soon as I get time on my family laptop....it'll get a facelift!
You're guide is well laid out for sure....that's why its here. ?
Alternative threads may be added....but only if they have differences. (for different results or methods) Won't be adding basically the same info repeated....just choices. Just in case anyone wonders later.
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That will be coming. No way I'm attempting any of that on my mobile browser. Lol. Makes me wanna step on the phone.
As soon as I get time on my family laptop....it'll get a facelift!
You're guide is well laid out for sure....that's why its here. ?
Alternative threads may be added....but only if they have differences. (for different results or methods) Won't be adding basically the same info repeated....just choices. Just in case anyone wonders later.
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I have updated my own thread to link to @iKrYpToNiTe 's app, so users can get to it from there.
It's also interesting that you mention formatting on mobile browsers. I did most of the writing of that thread on my Moto X while testing everything. It took awhile but it was a relief switching to my PC to respond and edit.
KidJoe said:
I might suggest a few things to clear up the 4.4.2 and Pie, and.... on LOCKED bootloaders.
I would remove "and lower" as while that statement applies to 4.4.2, "lower" would then mean 4.4.0 which SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo still work to root and disable write protection.
Something else I would re-consider... While I agree this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 is great and contains a lot of useful information, it seems to me that many newbies don't understand it, or overlook the information they seek which is why they are asking questions.
For rooting with an unlocked bootloader, might I suggest telling people to get the latest TWRP, SuperSU, and mFastboot, then use -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 does not include how to setup and configure ADB and mFastboot, put them in your path, etc. Something like this -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/ADB.htm. It is needed unless someone uses a "tool kit" to root, and many new users don't have a clue about Platform Tools, ADB, or mFastboot.
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Hello my friend!!
I'll tackle each point you made.
You are right about it making more sense to NOT use Pie on 4.4 and lower....but....as I said in post above....it is an alternative. Some may be scared off by the slapmymoto method, it is pretty involved. Or they might not care about write protection and just want to use a few root apps, so Pie may be their choice. I'll clarify that tho for sure!! Good point. ?
I disagree about the Complete Guide thread on one part, I find its easy to find the section you're looking for. But, I think many just ignore long guides cause they are overwhelmed or simply want a quicker answer. It does cover A LOT tho. And when I use it to link, I always mention the heading they should look for.
I will find a good ADB guide as you said tho....I just realized it was not included. I haven't "used" the guide myself. Lol. But no, I can't use the links you suggested, as that's a thread by a banned member (multiple bans on multiple accounts to be clear) and I would never link to anything by a banned member. Just my preference.
And here is a challenge for you I hope you accept.......
I tend to mostly only link to XDA threads, as XDA is my home for this hobby. If I may make a suggestion....why not take some of the excellent things from your webpage (yes, I've seen it....its awesome!) And translate them into XDA guides? The things that XDA is lacking anyway. No need to write guides where guides already exist. If an existing guide is lacking anything....suggesting to the creator to edit it is a good alternative also. Also, as this is going to be the thread linked to on XDA's new Root Directory for all devices....again, I feel it should point members only to XDA information, not outside sites. Even tho your page is great. ?
If you start with the ADB guide, I'll link it here for sure! ? Otherwise I may use an N5 guide I know....and just point out any differences.... Tho there isn't many.
And for rooting unlocked bootloaders, yes....it could be done a little "slower".... So the newest member could even follow it. So there's another guide that could be made.
Again, I didn't make this thread to list procedures......I made it to point to info already created by others. The X section is extremely confusing to newcomers..... We needed a clear "map" to help those new members find what they need.
Hopefully the "how to root" threads may slow down. Also, hopefully quick links to this, or the individual threads within this, will help guys like us and a few others from repeating the info day in and day out.
Thanks for the input...I seriously appreciate it. I'll make a few of those changes/clarifications you suggested tomorrow evening. Its late here now.
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I have updated my own thread to link to @iKrYpToNiTe 's app, so users can get to it from there.
It's also interesting that you mention formatting on mobile browsers. I did most of the writing of that thread on my Moto X while testing everything. It took awhile but it was a relief switching to my PC to respond and edit.
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Lol. You have more patience than me. I hate using the mobile browsers for almost anything.....especially things like editing colors and what not.
I will get to it very soon on my laptop tho.
I felt this should be put up sooner than later, as every day I see 2 or more "how to root MY device with my situation" threads.
I don't blame them.....its been a long standing issue that the X is confusing, and I think more than anything, a lot of the confused members just want confirmation that they're on the right track.
There's perfectly great info on it all in the threads.....but finding it and what suits your circumstance is another story. Its all over. Lol
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Lol. You have more patience than me. I hate using the mobile browsers for almost anything.....especially things like editing colors and what not.
I will get to it very soon on my laptop tho.
I felt this should be put up sooner than later, as every day I see 2 or more "how to root MY device with my situation" threads.
I don't blame them.....its been a long standing issue that the X is confusing, and I think more than anything, a lot of the confused members just want confirmation that they're on the right track.
There's perfectly great info on it all in the threads.....but finding it and what suits your circumstance is another story. Its all over. Lol
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Phew! The sheer thought of writing up one-third of what you have on your mobile device exhausts me. I tend to take my laptop -everywhere-, and use the phone for well....phone things LOL and for a substitute when I just can't have my laptop with me. Wow! I wouldn't have thought for one second you'd be patient enough to write all of this up on your phone. KUDOS, bro. You have far more patience than I.
Thanks again for the new thread. I know it will be just awesome (aesthetically) by the time you are finished with it. :good:
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And here is a challenge for you I hope you accept.......
I tend to mostly only link to XDA threads, as XDA is my home for this hobby. If I may make a suggestion....why not take some of the excellent things from your webpage (yes, I've seen it....its awesome!) And translate them into XDA guides? The things that XDA is lacking anyway. No need to write guides where guides already exist. If an existing guide is lacking anything....suggesting to the creator to edit it is a good alternative also.
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I have tried suggesting edits to the OP on some threads. They've been ignored.
I would love to have all the stuff here, so people can stay on one site. But my finally typing the stuff on my web pages rather than the forums has been due to several reasons....
I tried writing some of this stuff either as a new thread, or as a post in a thread created by someone (i.e as a helper).. Two examples. 1. Taking an OTA and Returning to Stock started as this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-kit-kat-how-to-prepare-carriers-t2536735 and Bootloader Unlock FAQ started THIS POST in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/4-1-vzw-att-moto-maker-bootloader-t2680651 and was linked in the OP. I pasted links to it in the "China Middleman Back???" thread. And I posted links to the OTA thread when relevant. Unfortunately, they were ignored, and the same questions asked.
I'm not as well versed and comfortable with layout and formatting, in the forums. Its easier for me to do on my PC with an HTML editor. It makes doing it via web page faster and easier for me.
Doing it as web pages, posting to my site, I could work on them offline, as time permitted, easily formatting them they way I want, etc. then upload after they are ready. Its easy to include pictures if I want, bold, colors, sizes, etc. Putting them in a post is more time consuming, I have to get it right and complete immediately, format it, etc. before I save/post it. Its more difficult to go back and edit a forum post, update it, etc. Again, editing must be done online, and in its entirety. I can't start editing, save, and finish editing tomorrow, otherwise the post wont make sense.
its how I've always done it, even back in the day on HowardForums, especially when we really needed to test most of the processes FIRST before making them available to the public. I could make the page, and only those I gave the link to could see it until I was ready to go live with it.
As for an ADB guide, or rooting an unlocked bootloader X, I could make make them. I would want them to be illustrated so newer people can follow along. Sure us "more experienced members" don't need that much detail, but we aren't the ones asking the questions. :silly: Unfortunately for me, that would be easier to do via web page.
I agree that there needs to be a comprehensive repository for rooting the X, the info is scattered, has changed, etc. There is just so much, so many places to start, so many "conditions" and caveats, I wouldn't know where to start. SO I do commend you on this undertaking!
I wouldn't mind taking this discussion to PM if you have ideas or suggestions on how to quickly/easily take some of my pages and convert them to posts.. rather than clutter this thread up any more.
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I have tried suggesting edits to the OP on some threads. They've been ignored.
I would love to have all the stuff here, so people can stay on one site. But my finally typing the stuff on my web pages rather than the forums has been due to several reasons....
I tried writing some of this stuff either as a new thread, or as a post in a thread created by someone (i.e as a helper).. Two examples. 1. Taking an OTA and Returning to Stock started as this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-kit-kat-how-to-prepare-carriers-t2536735 and Bootloader Unlock FAQ started THIS POST in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/4-1-vzw-att-moto-maker-bootloader-t2680651 and was linked in the OP. I pasted links to it in the "China Middleman Back???" thread. And I posted links to the OTA thread when relevant. Unfortunately, they were ignored, and the same questions asked.
I'm not as well versed and comfortable with layout and formatting, in the forums. Its easier for me to do on my PC with an HTML editor. It makes doing it via web page faster and easier for me.
Doing it as web pages, posting to my site, I could work on them offline, as time permitted, easily formatting them they way I want, etc. then upload after they are ready. Its easy to include pictures if I want, bold, colors, sizes, etc. Putting them in a post is more time consuming, I have to get it right and complete immediately, format it, etc. before I save/post it. Its more difficult to go back and edit a forum post, update it, etc. Again, editing must be done online, and in its entirety. I can't start editing, save, and finish editing tomorrow, otherwise the post wont make sense.
its how I've always done it, even back in the day on HowardForums, especially when we really needed to test most of the processes FIRST before making them available to the public. I could make the page, and only those I gave the link to could see it until I was ready to go live with it.
As for an ADB guide, or rooting an unlocked bootloader X, I could make make them. I would want them to be illustrated so newer people can follow along. Sure us "more experienced members" don't need that much detail, but we aren't the ones asking the questions. :silly: Unfortunately for me, that would be easier to do via web page.
I agree that there needs to be a comprehensive repository for rooting the X, the info is scattered, has changed, etc. There is just so much, so many places to start, so many "conditions" and caveats, I wouldn't know where to start. SO I do commend you on this undertaking!
I wouldn't mind taking this discussion to PM if you have ideas or suggestions on how to quickly/easily take some of my pages and convert them to posts.. rather than clutter this thread up any more.
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I hear ya!!!
I don't know much about formatting any page, web or XDA. Lol. I throw in a little color and bold type and underlines...that's about all I know. Lol
I will add your page at the credits area at the end of the OP with the other links. Its definitely worth it for people needing help. . (Tonight....hate editing on my phone).
As far as cluttering this thread...I'm not sure if its allowed, but I may ask it to be cleaned after a bit and the OP has been discussed enough and tweaked. Would take a moderator a bit of time....but would be worth it to remove all out discussion that is not directly about rooting. If its not possible....this will all disappear back in the pages eventually.
Hopefully more of the actual root related posts will go in the appropriate threads anyway. Aside from pointing out the way to anyone still unsure which applies to them. Shouldn't be actual troubleshooting here tho. ?
Thanks for your suggestions! If you've noticed I did make some adjustments based on your comments.
This thread is to help people figure out what root method is for them and where to go to find out how to root their device. It's a one stop shop for Moto X rooting, since there's many methods based on each devices condition.
I made this also so the Moto X can have ONE single root link on XDA's new root directory, created and maintained by a friend and mentor of mine, @PG101 .
So let's get straight to the current different root methods for the Moto X, as it seems there is confusion about this everyday and new threads started by confused members.
Please simply direct members to this thread or the individual threads for each method.....there's no need to repeat this stuff in thread after thread. A quick link and good luck message keeps XDA clean.
I'm not going to write out root methods....instead I'm going to explain what scenario means what and link to current threads by members who took the time to make guides, how to's and so on.
Please send a thanks (with that little thanks button thingy) to these dedicated members who worked hard at these guides and methods.
Warning!
No matter the model, dev edition....locked bootloader, unlocked bootloader.... Doesn't matter....NO MOTO X can be safely downgraded from 4.4.2 or higher. Not without GREAT risk.
Unlocked Bootloaders
You got it made! Doesn't matter what Android version you're on, the procedure is the same.
See this awesome guide. There's a section on "How to Unlock your Bootloader.". And a section on "Rooting Unlocked Bootloader."
Locked Bootloaders on 4.4 or lower ONLY
For devices still on 4.4 or lower you can root AND disable write protection! Awesome! But to stay rooted, you cannot upgrade past 4.4.
Again, see this great guide and read the section on "Rooting Locked Bootloader.". This is quite involved and takes some work. Read and proceed carefully.
This will NOT work on 4.4.2 or higher!
Locked Bootloaders on 4.4.2
Well, you can achieve root, but unfortunately, write protection will still be enabled. Meaning...no writing to the system partition, and any changes you make, root wise, will reset after a power down or hard reboot. So some root apps will work fine....and some may not.
There are two methods: PIE and Towelroot. Both of these can help you achieve root. PIE is a tethered root while Towelroot runs off an app on the device.
You can also combine these methods using TowelPIERoot made be @iKrYpToNiTe in a very easy and efficient app.
Locked bootloaders in Android 4.4.3 or higher
Unfortunately, there is no root method for you guys as of today. And again, you cannot downgrade without SIGNIFICANT risk.
Warning about using these exploits
Myself or anyone that has helped develop this are not responsible for anything that occurs to your phone by using this method.
I hope this clears up the confusion with rooting your Moto X. Follow the links based on your situation and read the guides! Multiple times!
You can ask questions here if you wish and hopefully the community can assist you....but you would probably be better served asking in the links to your root method.
Credits:
Guide by @dray_jr
>*Moto X*>*Moto X General*>*[REF]The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread
PIE for 4.4.2 by @jcase
>*Moto X*>*Moto X Original Android Development*>*[Root 4.4.X] Pie for Motorola devices
Towelroot by @geohot
>*Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 5*>*Verizon Galaxy S 5 General*>*I'm throwing a party and you should come **GS5 ROOT THREAD**. (It works on all devices, see website)
PIE with Towelroot for more functionality by @dier325
>*Moto X*>*Moto X General*>*Towelroot Discussion Thread (good information about the process, but pretty much replaced by @iKrYpToNiTe 's new app....mentioned next)
TowelPieRoot by @iKrYpToNiTe
>*Moto X*>*Moto X Themes and Apps*> *[Root][APP]TowelPieRoot for the Moto X
And let's not forget my friend @Perseus71 for this great Moto X resource thread!
>*Moto X*>*Moto X General*>*[INDEX][REF][GUIDE][TUTORIAL][RESOURCE] Welcome to your Motorola Moto X - Resource
And a special thanks to our Moto X support Gurus. These guys bust their butts helping the Moto X community and can help with almost any issue. Just post an issue anywhere in the Moto X section and they are sure to show up!
Be sure to keep a lookout for @samwathegreat and @KidJoe, they are both very knowledgeable and give good advice.
Hopefully this has cleared up any confusion there is in the Moto X rooting community.
Happy Rooting!
I welcome any feedback here! Please fill me in on anything I'm missing or any mistakes....or any other constructive criticism or suggestions.
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Went ahead and cleaned everything up, hope you don't mind. Just had to remove some smiley faces and clean up some grammar ^_^
I'm not sure if it's just me but I can only get exposed to work with Jcases pie root. I have tried both towel root and towel pie but it won't work for me. Not sure if it's even pertinent to this thread but thought I'd throw it out there. I'm on att 4.4.2
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superp32 said:
I'm not sure if it's just me but I can only get exposed to work with Jcases pie root. I have tried both towel root and towel pie but it won't work for me. Not sure if it's even pertinent to this thread but thought I'd throw it out there. I'm on att 4.4.2
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I'd use @iKrYpToNiTe 's app. And look through his thread or ask there about xposed. Chances are its been brought up in the thread already, but maybe not.
Link is near end of first post!
Excellent thread, though.
For me, getting to the Motorola's Android environment was kind of tricky, specially coming from a Galaxy S3 Mini, which was my first Android device (coming from iOS and Blackberry) and rooting it was a piece of cake.
Fortunately I got a SIM-unlocked XT1053, which could and was bootloader unlocked by me. So rooting was easier than some other variants are.
I see that there are info everywhere but spread on XDA and other forums. It's nice to see that there is one root-specific thread now, where all possible options are covered.
Keep it going!