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When the battery of my TyTN gets at 20%, I start getting system notifications warning me about a low level battery and others telling me to charge the battery like the manual says so.
The issue is that at 20% the TyTN still has a lot of life time, and meanwhile until the battery gets completely drained, I get MANY of these notifications that keep disturbing, it really isn't handy.
Does anyone know any solution for this? Maybe some way to start this notification only at 10% and maybe making them fewer.
It's only needed one or two notifications to remember us we are getting low on battery power, no need to keep reminding it all the time...
Thank you.
It's anoying me aswell...
I hope they fix this in the new ROM.
On the same general topic, anyone else find the battery status to be inaccurate?
I've re-enabled the small, four-bar battery indicator at the bottom of the home screen with a hack from MoDaCo.
Thing is, it's full most of the time - then wack! it goes to one-bar red and I start getting notifications. It doesn't seem very dependable. Anyone else get this?
Marques said:
It's only needed one or two notifications to remember us we are getting low on battery power, no need to keep reminding it all the time...
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same problem with me. looks like there is some serious bug with low level battery notification. in my case, i have Magic Button installed and i'm using its feature, which shows thin battery bar at top 2 pixels of screen (something like Batti). each time when i wake up my Vario II, this indicator always shows 100% battery for 2-3 seconds, after which it refreshes back to current state.
so this thing brings the idea, that these multiple notifications are caused because device 'thinks' that battery is full after each wake up, but after few seconds it turns out that it isn't, so system is generating notification - again and again after each wake up.
I've been having similar issues except in my case the battery is actually full.
The device powers up after being in 'sleep' mode (or sometimes during normal usage) and generates low battery notifications, even though the battery has been on charge all night and is actually full or at nearly full charge.
A soft re-set doesn't seem to help but physically switching the device off and on again seems to fix the problem (the battery showing 100% afterwards) but theres a definate bug with the power monitoring software
I really want to know how to modify registry of Hermes to avoid low battery notification too
Just a thought, on other devices such as the universal and breeze etc... (i see ive mentioned smartphones aswell as ppc) ... is the battery indicator shown in 10% blocks like the hermes or are they in steps of 1%?????
Anyone know of a reg hack or possibility that this will be changeable to 1% steps???????? (ROM change or the like?)
Ah yes, pretty irritating, guess we'll have to wait for the rom updates?
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Anyone know of a reg hack or possibility that this will be changeable to 1% steps???????? (ROM change or the like?)
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There is still no way to change the battery monitor to 1% steps.
From what I've checked, there is still no fix for this massive flood of low battery notifications. If anyone have any other idea... please share it.
My WM6 ROM show low battery warning at 40% - really annoying. I really just want to get of these notifications altogether!!
One possible cause of the battery showing that it is full only to have it drop 50-80% after a few minutes is that you are using a trickle-charger such as the USB cable to charge it.
When charging with one of these devices, when the battery says it's fully charged it usually isn't. You will want to take it off of the charger for a minute or two after it says it is full and then put the charger back on if you want to get a consistent full charge with a trickle charger.
Any news about the annoying low battery notifications?
I hate it and I would like to kill it forever...
Thanks
SaRo
In s-k software's sktools there an option to allow it to show the low battery notification in the sounds and notifications. I find this very useful as i disable the message on the screen which gets in the way when it pops up to tell you battery is low. You can even change the sound or just disable the notification completely! Theres got to be a reg setting for it so people can use this little hack without buying the program.
I have recently purchased a Mugen 3000 mA battery. I am thrilled with the extended battery life after fully charging and discharging it three times as recommended by the manufacturer. What I find annoying is that WM6 no longer gives accurate information regarding remaining battery strength. If I run the battery down to 2%, remove the battery and restart WM6 says 37%. At 2% I can repeat and WM6 still says 37%. After running down to 2% a third time and repeating WM6 says around 10%. After that it varies a bit but you get the picture.
What I would like to know is if one of you geniuses out there has discovered a registry edit, hack or 3rd party software that will provide accurate battery info so I don't have to be distracted by having my battery say 2% for hours on end or repeatedly remove and restart.
BTW, BatteryStatus Ver. 1.04.200 beta2 build 0173 reports the same incorrect info and so does SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 Home Tab.
Thanks in advance for your informed guidance. OK, that is laying it on a bit thick but I always highly recommend this site to anyone I know interested in really learning how to take full advantage of that little computer in their pocket.
Take a search on XDA for Ariel monitor maybe it solves your problem.
Thanks for the suggestion. It is a nice little program but it suffers from the same problem. I suspect I need to find a way to change the mA capacity WM6 bases it's battery calculations. I don't know if that can be done with a registry edit or if there is a third party battery monitor that has an option to change the battery capacity for calculation of percentage remaining or better yet auto detects the actual battery capacity. Ideally it would be able to both accurately read remaining percentage and make reasonably accurate time remaining estimates based on current and historical battery drain data.
It is like driving a car with a broken gas gage. Sure, you can use the odometer to estimate how much gas you have left but you are always worried your estimate is off and you will be left stranded without a phone ... oops crossed metaphors.
How do the rest of the users with extended batteries handle this irritating situation?
Bump. I can't believe i'm the only one with this problem.
I know this problem also i will wait with buying a high capacy battery until i find such a hack
The Kaiser uses a smartbattery. The battery capacity is based on the information that a small processor inside the battery tells the phone's main processor. There are several things that could be the problem:
1. The small processor in the 3rd party battery is programmed with the old specs for the standard battery. The is nothing you could do about this.
2. The small processor needs to be calibrated. You would do this as follows; set your phone to never turn off no matter how low the battery got. Now, run the phone down until the thing dies from lack of power. Then charge it all the way up. This should fix that issue. I don't recomend doing it many times, because it is not good for Lion batteries to be fully discharged too often.
This is a very valid issue which I have faced many times when using a 3rd party extended battery with other phones.
Not sure how to solve it though, although I have the 3000mah on order myself.
I think the battery reading is given by the battery itself, and most of these 3rd party manufacturers don't really care to put a smart processor in the battery (to reduce costs/make it smaller/etc).
I have the exact same issue and although it is a nuisance, I have found a workaround to keep using the phone. Simply physically removing the battery and replacing it will increase your remaining battery power substantially. I normally wait till the first low battery reminder to do this. Also, how do I set the phone to never turn off no matter how low the battery gets? This would also be fine with me.
utbiglall said:
I have the exact same issue and although it is a nuisance, I have found a workaround to keep using the phone. Simply physically removing the battery and replacing it will increase your remaining battery power substantially. I normally wait till the first low battery reminder to do this. Also, how do I set the phone to never turn off no matter how low the battery gets? This would also be fine with me.
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I didn't run into this issue until I reflashed my ROM to one with W6.1. Then, rather than get 12-13 hrs with my 3amp battery, I'd get 6. I used my original battery, but when I put the 3amp back in, I still had 47% left.
It's the ROM, and until there's a fix, it would be a pain to pull and replace the battery just to work around. I've done this several times recently when I'm on battery power, but I'd rather not.
Anybody heard of any other fixes, outside monitor, or do we wait until we get a Windows Mobile 6.1 fix?
Still no luck?
Hello,
Has anyone been able to find a solution for this. I am ordering the extended battery today. I will try to fully discharge it and then recharge it as was suggested and report back.
I emailed Mugen. We went back and forth with them trying to troubleshoot whether it's the battery or OS. They were clueless, but did offer an RMA to replace the battery. I pay the postage. Not sure if I'll send it back if it's the OS. I pull and replace the battery right now. It's a real pain, and I hate opening the case so much, but it's the only way I can get an accurate read.
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This is a very valid issue which I have faced many times when using a 3rd party extended battery with other phones.
Not sure how to solve it though, although I have the 3000mah on order myself.
I think the battery reading is given by the battery itself, and most of these 3rd party manufacturers don't really care to put a smart processor in the battery (to reduce costs/make it smaller/etc).
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The processor is required for these types of lithium ion batteries because it regulates the charging of the battery. If it didn't the battery would not charge properly, or maybe not even charge at all.
There is no solution for now, people from other forums tries to patch battdrvr.dll.
But two things may help a little:
1.You may completely disable battery monitoring
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery rename or remove string battdrvr.dll
But you lost monitoring completely.
2. change HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery\Order change value from 15 (in my case) to 0. - After this battery lasts longer until power off.
There is not complete hardware or software solution for this problem. We need to wait.
Low Battery warning:
By default, a PPC will sound a warning sound when the battery is running low (10%, fixed value), but there's no way to disable or change the notification. To enable this, so that it is visible in the "Sounds & Notifications" control panel, set:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\{A877D663-239C-47a7-9304-0D347F580408}\Default = "Low battery warning" (REGSZ string, no quotes)
Anybody have any updates on this? I have noticed this more on WM6.1, but it was still an issue on WM6. I just find this so annoying!
Is there any radio that can fix this? I noiced that this battery reading issue only occurs when the Phone Signal is on. When off, it never happens to me. Or it seems. So it has something to do with the radio.
bump, anyone got a solution?
this is very interesting, i bought the seidio 3200 battery i am having the same problems. i just tired the
change HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery\Order change value from 15 (in my case) to 0
i am going to see how that works out throughout the day
Tried It
I am having same issue, reset the registry key to "0" and ran for a full day, no change, still incorrect reading. I have a 2700 Mah battery and the charge indicater is completely wrong on it. I have cycled the battery as per reccoemndations, but still get wrong power remaining readings. Can remove the battery and resets itselft to a more correct reading.
I am out of ideas, guess we need someone from HTC to chime in with a hardware fix.
MWS
ms0529 said:
I am having same issue, reset the registry key to "0" and ran for a full day, no change, still incorrect reading. I have a 2700 Mah battery and the charge indicater is completely wrong on it. I have cycled the battery as per reccoemndations, but still get wrong power remaining readings. Can remove the battery and resets itselft to a more correct reading.
I am out of ideas, guess we need someone from HTC to chime in with a hardware fix.
MWS
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i have tried it too and it still does the same thing. i would still need to pull the battery and restart the device for the batt meter to get a more accurate reading. i could do it about 3 times before the battery dies completely.
is there this problem with all extended batteries or just with the larger ones?
the reason I ask is that I've got a $17 credit at Amazon and was thinking of grabbing a 1600mah battery, it's only like $22 with ship so I'll only pay a few bucks for it really...
I wanted to get the larger one but it's fat and won't fit standard carrying case, but the 1600 is slim and will fit in place a regular battery
Hi there,
does anybody know how to change the batteri indicator to show batteri usage in 1% at the time. As is it right now it only shows 10 %
have search the forum and looked 20 pages down, havent found anything
You can use Batti 2.4 which puts the bar across the top of your screen and is completely configurable.
i know the program :-D but want the batteri indicator to show 1% at the time when i press on the top of the screen
I use this one. It shows it like so: 99, 98, 97, 96 etc until 1
Edit: this is for WM6.1, the standard ROM that comes with the Topaz.
Hi there
I use a complete reskin of the taskbar which may not be for you but what I have come across is something that may be of interest?
Take a look at the following:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2010/01...e-and-battery-to-your-taskbar.html#more-10181
I have not tried it but it looks interesting/perhaps worth a look?
Cheers
Balders
I don't know if my suggestion is wrong or if I'm a total n00b or what the deal is, but what is up with the battery level issues on this phone? It goes from 100% down to 80% in like a matter of minutes even with no usage, it then drops steadily down to 50%, then it drops suddenly to 15%, then goes down to 10%, then 5%, then 1%. How can it be so hard to calculate a battery level?
Now I bet someone is going to come in here and bash my idea, and I apologise in advance if I look like a moron, but shouldn't the calculation for the battery level be something along the lines of:
((Current Voltage - Minimum Voltage) / (Maximum Voltage - Minimum Voltage)) * 100 = Current Battery Percent
If that would work (even if only a little better than the current method), can someone PLEASE write at least a widget or something that displays the actual battery level, not this inaccurate level that Samsung claims it to be, and if possible modify whatever it is that calculates it and replace it with said formula?
I tried this formula on my phone using a simple calculator (using 4.1V as my max and 3.5V as my minimum and a battery level widget to display the current voltage) and it seemed to work fine for me and it was a lot more accurate. I just wish it could be automated.
I think that's a common issue on Galaxy 3. Sometimes it's accurate, sometimes not.
I unplug it, after half an hour it's at 80%, then drops by 10% down to 50% and after that suddenly to 5%. Then I turn it off and on again and it returns to 50% or 60%.
But as I said, sometimes it's accurate, but I don't know what causes it.
I've tried some battery widgets, but they all display the same information.
That was a common issue that happens more frequently when you flash your phone without a full charged battery, when that happens i try to wait until the batery ends and wait 2 o 3 hours and charge the phone while its off until it shows full charge
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I think that's a common issue on Galaxy 3. Sometimes it's accurate, sometimes not.
I unplug it, after half an hour it's at 80%, then drops by 10% down to 50% and after that suddenly to 5%. Then I turn it off and on again and it returns to 50% or 60%.
But as I said, sometimes it's accurate, but I don't know what causes it.
I've tried some battery widgets, but they all display the same information.
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Yes, its the same with my G3.. But it always was like that, with eclair and now with froyo.
These are the files that regulate it (its in c, but you my be able to understand some parts of it without it).
They didnt calculate it like that, but used an if..else if ...else method. and with fixed values of multiples of ten (except for lower battery).
I dunno how to compile from the sources, when I do I'll change it and send it to KARMA.
Also, sometimes when its low it doesnt show it correctly. Try rebooting if you suspect that.
I've noticed that last 20-30% stays for almoust 10h, but first 80% only 1 day.
If it was only the faulty display of the percentage I normally wouldnt even care. There are many widgets that display the actual battery voltage which gives a much better indication of the actual SOC.
BUT: what really gets on my nerves is, that when the calculated battery level drops below some 10%, the G3 reduces the display brightness, doesnt let me use the camera, doesnt let me start my music app... even if the battery voltage is still at 3.7-3.8V.
The problem seems to be (correct me if i am wrong), that the G3 calculates the battery level with the minimum of the measured voltage in that discharge cycle. So if I use some app which consumes more power, or if I have many active downloads or whatever, the voltage of the battery can sag for a short time, which also causes the calculated battery level to drop. When the phone is idle again the battery voltage goes back up, but the percentage is stuck (in worst case at a very low level).
Since a reboot seems to make the phone re-evaluate the actual SOC, the question is, if there is an app (or if someone can make an app) that forces the phone to re-evaluate the SOC without rebooting (and so also reactivates camera etc.). Even better if the firmware was modified in a way, that the algorithm for determining the battery level uses a filtered value of the battery voltage so that a short term voltage sag does not affect the calculated battery level.
Ok I was trying to search abouth this but haven't found abouth it here.
When my battery is under 10%, you can't select display brightness anymore in the display option menu. I don't use energiesaving. Is this normal that samsung manages the brigntness itself than? It's annoying because I want to use my 10% battery on full brightness if I want too!!
I can adjust it with the widget, however when I open my browser it sets back to samsung dimming it... so not possible than.
Also you can not use camera at lower battery of 20 or 15%, not sure wich one, just noticed it today; I think 15%. Why the f*ck is that? Again: Why can't I choose what to do with my last 15%?
As far as I was searching I didn't find an option to turn this off. Anybody else maybe?
Thanks for answering these two questions!!
Oh and a little question: The battery usage graph, when is it reset and does it start counting again? Only when you put the plug in untill it is 100%?
this has been the default behavior even with SGS1. You can't snap pictures, listen to music, view videos, raise brightness when your battery is low.
I think there is no way to alter this behavior.
To your other question - the batt stats in that little app will reset when you charge to full 100% and it gives you that message "batt is charged, disconnect the charger".
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this has been the default behavior even with SGS1. You can't snap pictures, listen to music, view videos, raise brightness when your battery is low.
I think there is no way to alter this behavior.
To your other question - the batt stats in that little app will reset when you charge to full 100% and it gives you that message "batt is charged, disconnect the charger".
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Ok thank you!
I find this pretty annoying. Verry friendly of samsung to think abouth my battery not spending on media things, and i could make important calls if I need to! But I am old enough to spend my battery on what I find important, pff.
Oh well, maybe rooting in the future(or wouldn't that effect it?)... Don't know much aboutch that yet, first android. But will look into it.
Most likely you would need to patch the code to fix this. Someone will do it eventually. It hasn't bothered me enough for me to want to patch it. But I agree, it's stupid. If I want to take pictures when the battery is at 15% or lower, I should be able to do that. If I want to watch a movie when the battery is less than 10%, I should be able to do that.
Interesting. What if Samsung didn't implement this features and when your last 10-15% of your battery is dying fast with all your setting and you couldn't make any important calls or email or message will you be complaining to Samsung for not implementing any battery saving features?
With 10-15% of my battery left I will save as much battery as I can to save for any important things before I reach home.
People's need is hard to pleased. One wanted this another one doesn't want that. Never ending story. Haha.
Wait for custom rom to remove this features. =D
r_a_c said:
Ok I was trying to search abouth this but haven't found abouth it here.
When my battery is under 10%, you can't select display brightness anymore in the display option menu. I don't use energiesaving. Is this normal that samsung manages the brigntness itself than? It's annoying because I want to use my 10% battery on full brightness if I want too!!
I can adjust it with the widget, however when I open my browser it sets back to samsung dimming it... so not possible than.
Also you can not use camera at lower battery of 20 or 15%, not sure wich one, just noticed it today; I think 15%. Why the f*ck is that? Again: Why can't I choose what to do with my last 15%?
As far as I was searching I didn't find an option to turn this off. Anybody else maybe?
Thanks for answering these two questions!!
Oh and a little question: The battery usage graph, when is it reset and does it start counting again? Only when you put the plug in untill it is 100%?
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Thinks its a security feature too protect your battery and your fone.
Lithium batteries are very sensitive when they are almost drained. Normaly your fone will shutdown when the batteri voltage reach about 2,5V, if the voltage go lower on a lithium batteri, it will not accept a new charge and can explode if force charged.
Another thing is that lithium batteries have higher impedance the lower the voltage is on the batteri and its not after af liniear scale. Lets say the voltage on the battery is about 3V when the fone is reporting 10% left. The problem is that the impedance is very high at that voltage, so if you drain to much power, the voltage on the battery will drop under the safe voltage limit immediately, render your battery useless, and possibility to harm your fone and you if force charged.
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Interesting. What if Samsung didn't implement this features and when your last 10-15% of your battery is dying fast with all your setting and you couldn't make any important calls or email or message will you be complaining to Samsung for not implementing any battery saving features?
With 10-15% of my battery left I will save as much battery as I can to save for any important things before I reach home.
People's need is hard to pleased. One wanted this another one doesn't want that. Never ending story. Haha.
Wait for custom rom to remove this features. =D
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no nobody would be complaining because not a single other android phone does this behavior, and people seem just fine not yelling about anything.
i agree this behavior should have an on/off setting. someone will fix it wiht custom ROM let's hope.
Yeah and not to be able to use camera when battery is lower than 20% is ridicilous! There is still 20% juice left. Camoon Samsung!!
I could somehow understand if it starts when under 10% left but I still prefer that I can personally decide whether or not save battery when running out.
For Desire I always had extra battery with me. I could use it 100% until the battery died and just change to next one.
Now basically the already bad battery life has been taken 20% away cause you cant do **** after that.
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no nobody would be complaining because not a single other android phone does this behavior, and people seem just fine not yelling about anything.
i agree this behavior should have an on/off setting. someone will fix it wiht custom ROM let's hope.
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Haha, true true. Hope this can be fixed in custom rom.
Oh, my mate just complaint to me about this a moment ago.