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TomTom 7 extracted from HTC Diamond

For anyone who hasn't been watching the main development and hacking thread in XDA they've managed to get a working version of tomtom 7 off the new HTC Diamond and got it to work on other phones. This happend a few days ago I believe, maybe longer. That said, it hadnt worked on the Vogue untill now thanks to starbase64.
You can find the version of tomtom 7 that works with our phones here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/12398912...and_6.cab.html
http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=6EF2ABE2
Also please find the direct link to the actual thread topic for this development here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401691
I had tomtom 6.03 installed with USA and Canada Maps ver. 6.75. I installed tomtom 7 which uninstalled tomtom 6 and installed 7 overtop.. booted up and my map worked fine. GPS actually connected way quicker then with 6.03.
(sidenote.... I use a bluetooth external GPS reciever as I am waiting for telus to get of their butts and release their rom update that will activate the internal gps)
The only thing I have noticed so far is that tomtom 7 is supposed to have the option of being able to change the navigation cursor.. ie an arrow to a car which it says it cant because theres no cursors so I'm sure a fix or something for this will come at some point. But all looks good. The fonts are a bit big as its for VGA but still great. The black colour bars are alot nicer then the blue.
It's been said before and I will say it again. Dont discuss anr warz or anything like that. No hacks or cracks or where to download maps from illegally. If you want a map. Go to tomtom's website!

Oh.. I have also had issues with this version of tomtom and tomtom home. It wont regonize that 7 is installed. Shows all my maps and voices and what not. This is a little frustrating as because it doesnt recognize in home you cant use the mapshare. One of the big perks of the upgrade. If anyone figures this out OR if its just me let me know!
I tried upgrading to tomtom home ver 2 but it wouldnt recognize it either.

Alright everyone... Here's the newest QVGA version of TomTom 7. Looks a little nicer on the Vogue. All the fonts are the appropriate size and what not.
starbase64 said:
I have build a pachage (look in my 4Shared TomTom folder) "TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_QVGA_without_installation.rar".
Extract on your SD Card and start "TomTom Navigator.exe".
TomTom must never again be installed.
This pack is without voices, you can find voice in my 4Shared TomTom folder.
Thanks "minty1978" for the QVGA Pack, is faster on Hermes.
wfg
Starbase64
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Installation was fairly simple. I just copied the files over to my Touch and booted tomtom back up. Also check out the custom car icon files he has. What you have to do (took me a little research to figure it out) was where ever you installed your tomtom program. Mine was "\program files\Navigator" Make a folder called "art" and then a subfolder called "cars" Then put the car icon files you want inside that subfolder. When you boot up tomtom you can then change the icon of the direction arrow.
Edit: Here's some sites to download the car cursors as well
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-custom-cursors.php
http://tomtom.gps-data-team.com/car_symbols.html
http://www.tomtomforums.com/forumdis...=67&order=desc

Is Google Navigator going to be a descent solution for us? Or is this going to be the best?
Of course I have no idea, as I'm waiting for Sprint US to get me my fancy new ROM update as well. So I haven't even had the opportunity to search around and play yet, using an external.
Hopefully today at 11:00am. Have to wait and see. Not holding my breath.
L8R

well googl's free.. I dont believe it has 3d map views although it does have satelite.. which is a perk. I'd say tomtom is a little more advanced then googlemaps for sure. 3d driving view ... voice guidance... thousands and thouands of poi's, easy menus etc etc. If you havnt used tom tom before you'll be pleasantly suprised how easy it is to use. Then again Tom toms been making stand alone units (PNA's) for years and years so they sort of have been working at it a long while now where as google maps is new to the game. I use both Navigon and tom tom and find them to be the best for what I need. With google map you can triangulate your position with cell towers too.. tomtom... nope. you NEED GPS for it to work

Aaron McCarthy said:
well googl's free.. I dont believe it has 3d map views although it does have satelite.. which is a perk. I'd say tomtom is a little more advanced then googlemaps for sure. 3d driving view ... voice guidance... thousands and thouands of poi's, easy menus etc etc. If you havnt used tom tom before you'll be pleasantly suprised how easy it is to use. Then again Tom toms been making stand alone units (PNA's) for years and years so they sort of have been working at it a long while now where as google maps is new to the game. I use both Navigon and tom tom and find them to be the best for what I need. With google map you can triangulate your position with cell towers too.. tomtom... nope. you NEED GPS for it to work
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Last time I looked Google Navigator was like $60 bucks.
http://www.pdafun.net/
And I thought it had all the 3D maps, Driving Directions, voice command turn by turns and all that jazz too...??
Google Maps isn't really a navigation package, nor is Live Search IMHO.
I think you may be replying about the wrong application...ALthough I do think it's really weird for someone to charge $60 for a front end using the free google database, but hey; whatcha gonna do...
It almost like a Google Earth for WM6 devices...No...

Very true... Duh.. I was thinking about google maps. I haven't tried google navigator. I think last time I went to go try they didnt have a trial and I wasnt about to pay for something without knowing how well it worked. This threads going to get off topic quick. Tomtom 7.. download and try and you will love it!

Aaron McCarthy said:
Very true... Duh.. I was thinking about google maps. I haven't tried google navigator. I think last time I went to go try they didnt have a trial and I wasnt about to pay for something without knowing how well it worked. This threads going to get off topic quick. Tomtom 7.. download and try and you will love it!
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I just checked that pdafun link, and there is a free trial, although I have to agree...$60 for a front-end on a free set of maps is pretty expensive. Unless they have tts (haven't researched it yet).

How do you switch TomTom 7 over to english?

Ah yes... I forgot about that.. Here's what you have to do..
I should have remembered but yes, the QVGA version I posted is set to, well I dont remember what language actually...But its not english. There seems to be two ways to get it to english.
The first is simply to delete the file [navigator.cfg] which I'm fairly sure is in whatever directory you are installing tomtom 7 to. That said you can probably just NOT move it over into the directory. Before I discovered that deleting this file would make the english the default I did this.
Here's the method I figured out
Once the map screen has popped up tap the screen once, the bottomn left icon with a wrech is what you then have to press. A new page will pop up. Push the bottom right icon (a blue arrow) 5 times. On the last page you should see an icon with 3 flags.. it will be the top left icon. Press this once. Then you'll have the option of changing the language.
Change it to english or whatever you want it to be and you are set!
This brings up another possible issue I never thought about though untill now. If for whatever reason you cant boot up tomtom because its in some other language and you have to go through a set up in another launguge (I imagine if its the first time loading up it SHOULD give you the option of choosing the language before hand but if it doesnt) maybe install that VGA version and get the set up and what not, everything the way you want it THEN copy of the QVGA files. This may not even be an issie at all but if it should happen to someone its an idea on how to get it done!
Hope this helps!

Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.

Boss428man said:
Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.
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Dunno why, it saw my TT6 maps (NA 6.75)... I was able to use them right away...

Boss428man said:
Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.
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I too had it working with my version 6.75 maps. What version of maps do you have installed? If its older then the 6.75 perhaps they wont work. That said, if you have to upgrade then I would just upgrade to the latest ver 7 maps.

Weird, I have 6.75 also. My map folder is named "USA and Canada 675_1409". How does that compair with everyone?

I noticed that if you edit the Currentmap.dat file and redirect it to my map folder it still won't work.. Its weird TomTom 6 works fine.

I had problems with it not finding my maps. So I got some new ones and it worked fine instantly...

Just a question. Has anyone gotten Tomtom home 2.3 to work with their vogue yet? I've had no luck at all. I've been checking the main thread on this in the development area and alot of people are having issues getting their phones to connect.. While some connect just fine. I havnt read anything in there though from other Vogue users. In order to use the mapshare you need to be able to connect to tomtom home 2. So this would be great if we get it working OR if someone has it working maybe they could tell us what they did.
Thanks!

Anyone be able to download one free map from tomtom.com?

Boss428man said:
Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.
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6xx maps won't work, you have to get the new 7xx map.
Also, you need to activate the maps as well. Tomtom 7 increased the security.

does this file work w/the vogue internal gps? I'm using TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_repack2.cab that works with my maps, but doesn't pick up my GPS. (it works great on a friend's mogul)

Tomtom 7

Hi -
I've seen messages touting Tomtom 7 as being great for use with the 6800. I can't find it for sale anywhere. Can anyone point out a good site to go to to purchase this product?
Thanks,
Tim
PS - I'm NOT looking for warez sites. I would be happy to pay a fair purchase price if it's wonderful.

Mod Edit: We do not promote warez on xda. Next time it's a ban.

jr5416 said:
Mod Edit: We do not promote warez on xda. Next time it's a ban.
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Gosh, I don't know how I could have been more clear. I buy my software (assuming that it's not freeware, of course! )
Is Tomtom 7 actually in release yet? I don't see it listed on the tomtom company website.
- Tim

Yes, I can post the cab for you and you can install it, though it won't do any good without the maps. You have to buy the maps from TomTom.

gc14 said:
Yes, I can post the cab for you and you can install it, though it won't do any good without the maps. You have to buy the maps from TomTom.
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So why can't you get the TomTom7 cab or installer on their site? I too had to find the cab somewhere and then go get the maps from TomTom.

gc14 said:
Yes, I can post the cab for you and you can install it, though it won't do any good without the maps. You have to buy the maps from TomTom.
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Ok, thank you very much for all your help. I would appreciate that.
One more question: when I go to the tomtom site and tell it that I want to purchase maps for tomtom 7, it only offers me maps for europe, the far east and the middle east. I was hoping to find maps for the united states. Is that not possible?
Thanks,
Tim

tcolling said:
Ok, thank you very much for all your help. I would appreciate that.
One more question: when I go to the tomtom site and tell it that I want to purchase maps for tomtom 7, it only offers me maps for europe, the far east and the middle east. I was hoping to find maps for the united states. Is that not possible?
Thanks,
Tim
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If I go to their site and select United States and then the map products, I can choose the Go 300 product and then pick which map you want. They have both USA and USA/Canada available in the 7.x version. $129 for just the USA map.

Thanks. I'll go check on that right now.
How can I legally obtain the software?

Here's the cab for TomTom 7. As I stated earlier though, you need to purchase the maps from TomTom.
http://www.cinconet.org/tomtom7cab/TomTom Navigator 7.cab

Ok, thanks. I see that I can purchase tomom 7 maps from tomtom.com for europe and the near and far east, but not for the USA & Canada. Another person suggested above that I can get appropriate maps if I just start with saying that I have a GO300. Are the map files usable on any device? That is, does it matter that I'd be using the maps that he suggests on an xv6800 instead, or will they actually work ok? Also, will I need to download and use tomtomHome to actually install them?
Thanks,
Tim

tcolling said:
Ok, thanks. I see that I can purchase tomom 7 maps from tomtom.com for europe and the near and far east, but not for the USA & Canada. Another person suggested above that I can get appropriate maps if I just start with saying that I have a GO300. Are the map files usable on any device? That is, does it matter that I'd be using the maps that he suggests on an xv6800 instead, or will they actually work ok? Also, will I need to download and use tomtomHome to actually install them?
Thanks,
Tim
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I believe if you use the same version map as TTN then it will work. The Go300 has version 7 maps. You might be able to get the maps after installing TTN on your phone and doing it through that program.

Thanks for helping. I have to ask, though: what is TTN?

tcolling said:
Thanks for helping. I have to ask, though: what is TTN?
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TomTom Navigator

jambrose said:
So why can't you get the TomTom7 cab or installer on their site? I too had to find the cab somewhere and then go get the maps from TomTom.
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My understanding is that TTN7 was preloaded onto the HTC Diamond and is not for retail - just yet.
I can confirm that it is superior to TTN6 in terms of operability and of course the TT7 maps are more up to date. I was recently in Australia and a new toll road opened a few months earlier than scheduled and it was already available for navigation on TT7 maps.
I have not used the USA map on TT7 yet because I didnt want to shell out the $$$ just yet and TT6 maps seem to be just fine in my area.

Google Maps without internet connection?

hi to all
i wanted to ask, if it is possible to use google maps without the internet on my diamond....
for example : is there any way to load the map of germany on my phone so i can use it without paying for internet
thanks for responses

try smart2go; similar and you can store maps...

can somebody explain me how i get that on my diamond?
i guess it´s for nokia...

new bie question
I am confused. I would like to know whether we can install the google maps on diamond? can we use it just to find our way without connecting to GPS and so on.
I am sorry I don't have so much knowledge.
thanks for your kind reply.
greetings!
sony

I use TrekBuddy for the same purpose. It works nice on the Diamond.

search for smart2go wm6

I use GoogleMaps in Colorado, and it does work with and without GPS. Here in the US, GoogleMaps will use cell towers to triangulate where you are (been off as much as a half mile before), but it is better than nothing if you have no data plan.

no, it is not possible. you need internet to download maps on the fly. gm does have limited memory where you can browse a map (via internet) and it remembers a few frames for when you arent connected

nba_playa said:
hi to all
i wanted to ask, if it is possible to use google maps without the internet on my diamond....
for example : is there any way to load the map of germany on my phone so i can use it without paying for internet
thanks for responses
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man, u've gotta take a look at this
may be not the perfect solution we are looking for, but atleast there's hope

th1nm1nt said:
I use GoogleMaps in Colorado, and it does work with and without GPS. Here in the US, GoogleMaps will use cell towers to triangulate where you are (been off as much as a half mile before), but it is better than nothing if you have no data plan.
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That's called AGPS. Without using GPS and internet connection, the device finds your location. Iphone uses AGPS. I have no idea whether GoogleMap on diamond uses AGPS or not. But it's really annoying that when using GoogleMap without turning data connection on, GoogleMap keeps on popping that it needs some sort of data connection and I need to cancel it constantly.
Guys, anyway to get around this?

blufade said:
man, u've gotta take a look at this
may not the perfect solution we are looking for, but atleast there's hope
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seems to be a solution....
but how does that work?
i diddn´t understand that
haha
thx for help

nba_playa said:
seems to be a solution....
but how does that work?
i diddn´t understand that
haha
thx for help
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well, it seems like a workaround for linux based MIDs
if u do have a linux box, give it a try and let us know

i don´t have linus xD

nba_playa said:
hi to all
i wanted to ask, if it is possible to use google maps without the internet on my diamond....
for example : is there any way to load the map of germany on my phone so i can use it without paying for internet
thanks for responses
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I just started working on GL Maps this past week. It caches maps for 48 hours.
It's still very early beta though, so it probably won't fit what you need for a while.

TELUS Navigator

My HTC Touch Diamond is suppose to have GPS (as far as i know). It had a link before and a file to download TELUS Navigator. With all my customization and tweaking I seem to have deleted that.
How can I get that back, or maybe a better GPS program for my phone?
Thanks.

bmancell said:
My HTC Touch Diamond is suppose to have GPS (as far as i know). It had a link before and a file to download TELUS Navigator. With all my customization and tweaking I seem to have deleted that.
How can I get that back, or maybe a better GPS program for my phone?
Thanks.
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If you dont' need turn by turn directions, I use Google maps. It's free and works great on my telus diamond. ALso, it's free, so no monthly charge.

I can't seem to get GPS to work with Google Maps or Live Search, it wants a US address. That makes no sense lol

bmancell said:
My HTC Touch Diamond is suppose to have GPS (as far as i know). It had a link before and a file to download TELUS Navigator. With all my customization and tweaking I seem to have deleted that.
How can I get that back, or maybe a better GPS program for my phone?
Thanks.
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Did you try a hard reset?

What exactly does a hard reset do? What do I lose?

bmancell said:
I can't seem to get GPS to work with Google Maps or Live Search, it wants a US address. That makes no sense lol
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You need to tell Google to use GPS, otherwise it just triangulates from the phone masts. Click menu then "use GPS". Takes a while to lock onto satelites

Best GPS app(s) working on HD2....

I am having trouble finding a good working turn by turn gps navigation app (such as tom tom) which also works on the HD2....
any help/ advice ?
Thanks in advance...

TomTom works fine on HD2.

Navigon MN7, Copilot.

what versions ? and what are your radio/rom/ wm version info's, please ?

iGO, Garmin XT...

Tomtom works fine for me too...
*edit* ttn 7.917 at the moment, probably change that to 7.918 once I get the inclination to transfer the files... Radio in my sig...

Igo works fine for me. Sometimes you need to set the GPS device port to 4 before it will pick up the internal GPS hardware.

I use this. It is fantastic.
http://www.ndriveweb.com/

co pilot
been a long time tom tom user and am currently trying out the copilot live 8 @29.99 . so far am very impressed with it

qcefer said:
been a long time tom tom user and am currently trying out the copilot live 8 @29.99 . so far am very impressed with it
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I've got Navigon MN7 and GF is trialling Copilot8, routing is similar but we both like the MN7 interface better.
Copilot also waits until just after you turn left/right before telling you to "turn left/right shortly" which is a bit confusing.
Copilot is good VFM tho'

are there any free equivalents ?

im trying to find a cracked version of a gps program to run on my hd2. for some reason i never got a copy of it on my hd2, but i suppose its because i got it unsubsidized from asia. anywho, a free equivalent would be nice.

I use and love Waze

joshuaadude said:
im trying to find a cracked version of a gps program to run on my hd2. for some reason i never got a copy of it on my hd2, but i suppose its because i got it unsubsidized from asia. anywho, a free equivalent would be nice.
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Warez is not permitted on XDA in any shape or form, whether requesting or providing
Consider this first and last warning!!!!
Any further requests or users providing warez will be banned for an undisclosed period of time

AFAIK there is no free turn-by-turn navigation for WM.

joshuaadude said:
im trying to find a cracked version of a gps program to run on my hd2. for some reason i never got a copy of it on my hd2, but i suppose its because i got it unsubsidized from asia. anywho, a free equivalent would be nice.
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If you do a search on this site you will find a link to the TomTom v916 program for the HD2. The program is free, but you have to buy the maps.
You could always go to the ROM section and flash an official HTC ROM, as this comes with co-pilot. I have no idea how much the maps cost or it is a subscription as I don't use it.

Dr.Sid said:
AFAIK there is no free turn-by-turn navigation for WM.
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There used to be one, GPS4All, until Nokia screwed them over with map licencing.
fred_up said:
If you do a search on this site you will find a link to the TomTom v916 program for the HD2. The program is free, but you have to buy the maps.
You could always go to the ROM section and flash an official HTC ROM, as this comes with co-pilot. I have no idea how much the maps cost or it is a subscription as I don't use it.
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Co-Pilot ranges from £26.99 to under £100, dependant on the number of maps you buy.

daanng the maps cost money hahaha. i'll look into it. the programs eat up battery life rather easily too right?

Dr.Sid said:
AFAIK there is no free turn-by-turn navigation for WM.
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Maybe if we're lucky, Google will port their turn by turn from Android. I wouldn't count on it though.
joshuaadude said:
daanng the maps cost money hahaha. i'll look into it. the programs eat up battery life rather easily too right?
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Yes, anything that involves GPS + leaving your screen on for an extended period of time will use the battery fast. Get a car charger...

danielmariano said:
I use this. It is fantastic.
http://www.ndriveweb.com/
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looks interesting but is kind of expensive. i'm downloading the trial right now though.