Remote desktop control with Diamond 2 - Networking

Hi Guys,
After wasting a complete day on all of the different vnc and rdp programmes, trying to control my desktop computer THROUGH the internet WITH my pocket pc (HTC Diamond 2) I thought i'd just ask:
I won't get it to work, and I can't help but think that it's just a lame little thing I've forgotten. Nothing will connect. Logmein and other server services show me nothing. Logmein in particular only shows me a white screen when I try to login to my computer, nothing else...reloading the page doesn't help. The external desktop controller that came with my phone won't connect, due to reasons (the computer is not on for instance) I'm sure are not true.
I have a HTC diamond 2 pocket pc running WM6.1 and network compact frame (latest update) installed (3.5 I think it was.)
My computer runs vista 32bits and I've tried numerous servers and clients but nothing seems to work...
Just a few hours ago I though it might be the fact that my ip ain't static. So I've made a static IP using the portforward.com description for my thomson speedtouch 780 router modem. Tried everything again. nothing...
the only thing I can think of is that my proxy is screwing up all my attempts to connect my two most precious devices through the internet...but shouldn't logmein have passed those settings? (i remember pressing the "don't block" button when windows firewall asked me)
Top of that I've googled my *ss of searching for different kinds of clients, software, programmes and others, usualy being redirected to this forum. I even tried the bible thread about networking and everything, though my mind refused to read the whole thing extremely thoroughly...
To make my request and question very clear:
I want a program that can remotely access my desktop pc through my diamond 2 ppc, mainly for accesing and downloading files and folders I might need for school. Ofcourse full control for audio (so I can start music from my living room) would be nice, but it's not mandatory...
I'm running wm6.1 and have jbed installed on my ppc, and running windows vista 32bits on my desktop computer. I have a static IP and a port setup through my router modem on port 1986.
I've been searching for almost 20 hours with 1 lunchbreak in between....can anyone help me to an easy solution (including a step to step guide)?
thx in advance...
oh yeah, I think i've enabled the "Let other users control my pc" button in the external dekstop control options for vista, but most of the guides and FAQ's say there's another button. -one saying "let other people help me solve issues with my computer by controlling my desktop"
-one saying "let other people connect to my computer, doing whatever the hell they want" (not the actual sentence btw )
vista only shows me the first one, and I have it checked.....

Noone knows anything about this?
I'm also trying to look for a rdp server for vista, but for now it seems non-existent...tried ultravnc, and allthough it works when my diamond2 is connected through USB, as soon as I disconnect my ppc from the PC, it freezes. I did a reboot and tried without usb connected.....nothing....couldnt connect.
the only vnc viewer working on my ppc right now is the one from mocha or mochia.....but it's a trial version. other viewers won't work....
anyone?

LogMeIn with Diamond2 - problem
Hi, I used to be able to use LogMeIn in my old PDA running on WM5. But now after i've gotten HTC Diamond2, I'm unable use my remote access software anymore...
I've gotten my friend to try using his HTC Touch HD and it work too for LogMeIn.
A quick check reveal that our IE could be slightly different version.
Did you have any solution yet?

"Vista 32 bits" is unfortunately not very descriptive. What version is it? Not all versions include Terminal Services.
By static ip, do you mean that your external interface IP is static or that the IP your PC might have on an internal network is static? There's a HUGE difference!
You need port 3389 forwarded to your PC from your router. Enter your external IP address in the RDP client and it will get forwarded properly. Hell, I've got 3389 forwarded to a VM I'm running on my PC and it works great.

Diamond 2 can use LogMeIn
Finally got my HTC Touch Diamond 2 (Topaz) to use LogMeIn. My friend who uses Touch HD and can use LogMeIn easily...
I guess the IE in Diamond 2 is not Pocket IE (PIE).
Procedure:
1) I use this software to toggle IE6 to PIE.
http://discussion.treocentral.com/treo-pro/177752-toggle-between-pie-ie6-free-app-cab-file.html
2) Login to LogMeIn PDA
https://secure.logmein.com/pda
3) Follow normal LogMeIn procedures...
Happy LogMeIn!!!

I use Logmein's Hamachi (that is a VPN software) that give me a direct p2p connection between my HTC fuze any my computer. Then i use remote desktop and use the ip hamachi provides and it work excellent.
PS you need at add you PPC hamachi ip in you firewall

vnc is what I would use it's a good general solution to connect
anything with anything mac, linux , windows you name it and it's free

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is there a util for this ?

Hi,
Is there a App like Remote administrator for PC
for the XDA2 ?
something where i can see on my XDA2 LCD a Screen of my PC
desktop and interact with the PC from screen taps on the XDA2.
open folders, start programs, mebe even xfer files etc etc
yeah vncview.exe
works pretty much like normal vnc between 2 computers
One I use is Pocket Controller from SOTI, very good.
I use NetOp Remote Control. Super!!
why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools
ArcticCat said:
why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools
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Hi ArticCat, would you mind to make a step buy step explanation on that?
:?:
Thanks in advance.
This works only on Windows XP Professional, NOT on XP Home.
Works with a Wifi card and in the USB cradle, didn't test it yet with an USB BT dongle since mine is in back-order or with GPRS.
PC
- make sure you have administrative rights
- Right-click "My Computer" and choose Properties
- Choose the tab Remote
- activate Remote Desktop (Allow users to connect remotely to this computer)
- the logged on user automatically has access to the pc. If you want to add additional users, click on "Select Remote Users" and add them.
XDA
- goto Programs->Terminal Services Client.
- fill in the name or ip-address of your pc and hit "Connect"
Works fine, but I find the resolution of the XDA II to low to be practical.
Think this would work much better on a Toshiba e800 with 640x480 res.
Enjoy,
Jos
Thanks a lot for the fast response.
Looks like there is something missing, I get a "Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection setings, tap setting" message.
There is not very much to configure undet the settings tab, so it's a bit frustrating.
Any ideas?
:wink:
I have no connection configured, just the XDA II in the cradle and it works.
Thanks a lot!
To my surprise it worked as you mention once I tried again. Couldn't figure out what was wrong the first time.
i used the SOTI and yes i can see the XDA screen on the PC.
But i was looking for the same util but the other way round.
i wanna see the DeskTop screen on the PDA
You need this prog: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/downloads/pocketpc/remotedsp_eula.mspx
Allows you to show the display of the pda on the pc-screen and control it with mouse and keyboard.
And it's for free!
yes thats wot the UTIL dose i have now.
but im looking to..
display of the pc-screen on the PDA and control it
This is what you want....
http://www.soti.net/bot.asp?Cmd=Products
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...onId=0&catalog=30&txtSearch=pocket+controller
Arthur,
Let's get things clear.
You want to control the pc from the XDA?
Just use terminal services client on the XDA in combination with the remote desktop feature of Windows XP Pro, as described in the earlier postings.
Or use VNC, you can download the client for the pocket pc here:
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
and the server for the pc here:
http://www.realvnc.com/download.html
Jos
hi jos yes you got it
one problem i have is when trying to connect via GPRS i get the msg NO MODEM AT THE OTHER END ?
Arthur, did you get this sorted in the end.
I was already running the server program on my main pc and downloaded the pocket pc vnc veiwer. Cant get it to work so far tho, is there any settings you have to change on the XDA?

Setting up VNC or Remote Desktop

I've set up LogMeIn, but it's left me dissatisfied. I don't like the fact that it's website based, and it's a little slow for my tastes.
I've attempted VNC and Remote Desktop but, sadly, it's a little over my head. I'm by no means a noobie, but I've never dabbled in remote desktop type work before.
Is there a simple tutorial for setting up VNC or Remote Desktop clients for the Wizard? I could really use one. I've been trying to search for it for a few days, and I turned up absolute zilch.
Thanks!
both VNC and remote desktop would need to be enabled on your workstation / server / computer and make sure that either the required ports for VNC (port 5900+) and Remote Desktop Connection (port 3389) and open your firewall or the windows firewall is turned off.
if you are trying to use VNC / RDP, using your GPRS/EDGE connection then there's more tweaking which needs to be done ... this would entail you to go to your router/firewall and open ports 5900 (VNC) and 3389 (Terminal Services / Remote Desktop Connection) and point these ports to the right IP Address (which would be the IP address of your workstation).
if you have any questions about remote access just email me back ... i use my XDA Exec, Qtek 8500 and all the other PDA's i have to access my network at the office as well as at my clients all the time ... both through VNC and through Remote Desktop Connection ....
what program do you need on the wizard to do remote desktop?
right now i can remote desktop to my work computer from my laptop at home. is it similar? thank you.
There should be a remote desktop client already installed on your Wizard. Look in the Programs folder for "Terminal Services Client". It works pretty much the same as it does on big Windows.
As dumb as this is, I really need a step by step to help me out on this subject.
I'm unsure what is needed to get the Remote Desktop Client working. I have XP Pro. I have a "Remote" section under my home computers system properties. However, the one tutorial I could find asked me to go into Add/Remove Windows Devices and apply some sort of setting there. Upon doing so, I was asked to insert my Windows XP CD which . . . I don't have.
If I don't need that CD, I am open to doing either Remote Desktop or VNC. Whichever is preferable, I guess. I don't know which is more full-featured, which one is quicker, etc.
So I need help getting started. What do I do?
Hey Dr.Other
Okay here is a step by step to enable remote desktop on your computer ( much better then VNC in my book but I am sure others may disagree..so in the end its personal prefrence...I just like RD (remote desktop) better cause I can stream music if I wanted and its also encrypted (I think I read that some where) any way here it is for remote desktop.
Guessing you are useing Windows XP Pro
Right Click on MY COMPUTER ( on your desktop)
From the menu that opens up Click (Left click) on PROPERTIES
You will see a few tabs in a window called System Properties
Click on the REMOTEtab
Check the Box under the Remote desktop area that say ALL USEERS TO CONNECT REMOTELY TO THIS COMPUTER (its not in caps)
Next click on Select Remote User and click ADD
TYpe in the users name (what ever name you use to login with)
Hit Okay till your back to your desktop
Phone:
Start\Programs\Terminal services Client
under servers type in the IP address of your computer ( Hint try it locally 1st if you have wifi in your house and then click connect) its a bit difficult to naviagate and the colors are not the best ( which leads me toa question ...look at the bottem for the Q ) but it will do...I have hcked email looked at my fav places for a book name I had bookmarked but forgot etc. its really cumbersome but in teh end it may get the job done. Though Fair warning your icons and stuff will be bunched up on your desktop computer once you RD from your Phone
RD to your phone..... What ? can you remote desktop to your phone ?
I think so...if you enable terminal service port on the device you maybe able to connect to it from your computer ...but I am still trying to figure that one out
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
geekserver said:
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
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Even if you could it would slow the process down so much it wouldnt be worth it. I wouldnt even have a background on as it slows to a crawl.

vpn compatible apps

the remote desktop client on my vario ii connects to my work desktop perfectly using our office vpn but it is rubbish! the screen doesn't scale well at all or provide any kind of zoom out function.
I have a vnc client which performs much better but it won't connect over the vpn it only works when connected directly to the office network.
forwarding ports is out of the question. so my question is this.
is there a vnc client for pocket pc which will work over vpn or is there a way to make the remote desktop client less rubbish
also are there any apps out there that will let me browse my work network over the vpn. resco doesn't seem to be able to do it even the ftp client won't work.
am I missing something about vpn connections as it seems the only two apps that work over one are activesync and the remote desktop client.
Did you tried to acces domain controler throught the VPN? If yes it is normal that it doesn't work; Domain controler require security enhancement in auth that pocket devices cannot deliver yet. The only way I know is to reduce the security enhancement by using the GPO on the concerned servers; but this is far of being a clean fix.
Just trying to use connect to a vnc server on my workstation. btw our domain controller is the exchange server and active sync works fine
Active sync & exchange do not use the integrate authentification & kerberos; it uses a plain text auth (crypted with the SSL certs), that's why it works. Even if you are on the LAN you will not be able to access your domain's controller shares because of security enhancement.
This is far from solving your issue; but I just wanted to make it clear. Concerning your issue I can't help you at the moment, I still didnt tried the VPN & advanced networking.
btw, good luck
I have set up a vpn on my home computer, no domain, and can't access shares or a vnc server on that either.
Hi Stemill, I seen your other post about the vpn issues with Resco also, I have heard in the past about vpn issues using the [email protected], are you using [email protected] or [email protected]?
I use the terminal/remote client on a daily basis, and it does blow, vj on the board here has made an app that allows fullscreen with the terminal client, and theres a Mocha remote desktop client that supports scaling but no fullscreen, both of which have their own quirks. The scaling makes the text impossible to read when its even at 25%
I have been working on connecting to the remote desktop on mac with vnc, and I've gotten as far as an error on authentification, so I know its possible outside of a home network, but I don't have a clue about buisness situations..exchange or vpn's.
I not even 100% positive about the wap issue, I just seem to remember reading something about it in the past.
Sorry I wasn't of much help, also I kind of have a question for you, I see you mention activesync, you're not activesyncing over an internet connection are you?, I'm working on installing apps that I don't have a .cab for over an internet connection, but the best route I had figured out was to install to a ftp share and then grab the .cab from there with Resco.
Best of luck to you.
Hi there.
I'm on t-mob in the uk. They have a 3g network with full internet access so i'm not using wap at all.
Thanks for the tips about the remote client tweaks. Do you have a link?
I'm using activesync to connect to my works exchange server to sync email and calendar. Pretty sure its not possible to sync over the air to a pc without using exchange. You certainly won't be able to grab remote files via activesync.
If we could figure out how to get apps to work over vpn you could set one up on your pc and (theoretically at least) browse its contents using resco without having to bother with ftp.
If it's not possible to get stuff working over the vpn then you've probably found the best solution already. use ftp or setup a webserver on your pc and host the cab files on that. pocket ie seems to let you install cab files directly from a link.
btw which vnc client are you using on your phone?
Hi, I forget a lot of the time that people here have so many different carriers, sorry.
Here's the link to vj's terminal addon app
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJFullscreenTSC
And here's the link to the Mocha remote client app
http://www.mochasoft.dk/rd.htm
I used .Net vnc when I was able to get the authentification error
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
I think my problem on the authentification was with the apple remote desktop itself, I read about somethin in the authentification being non standard and sometimes the free vnc viewers don't work..but that was also pc to pc related, the same makers of the Mocha remote desktop also make a vnc client..that was gonna be my next try, I just haven't gotten there yet.
I inistally set up my pc to be able to remote to it from my phone and access aol chatrooms..well mainly one I have hung out in for years, then realized if I set up a server, I could install apps that I couldn't find in .cab form over the net with it, I used to have windows server 2003 set up with IIS(webserver) and the streaming media services, I'm wondering now if the windows streaming media really works with the pocket windows media, and if I could even use it with my gprs/edge connection, I'm still waiting on 3G, suprisingly the remote desktop isn't too bad on gprs/edge.
I'm currently waiting to get a new hard drive before I can really get to work, I'm testing on an old messed up xp install, and half the time I can't even access "my computer" or open folders without it crashin explorer.

Remote Desktop WM6 T-Mobile Wing help

I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
homiedaclown said:
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak
1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB
Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb
have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...
I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.
I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...
It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.
yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys
got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...
Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.
remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009

How can I configure Remote deskto mobile???

Can anyone tell me or point me to a How to for dummies on how to configure and use Remote desktop on Windows 7 and my HD2?
Thanks.
Are you trying to connect to W7 directly via Remote Desktop from HD2, or did you mean something else?
Remote Desktop HOST is only included in the Professional, Business, or Ultimate versions of Windows. Home editions do not have Remote Desktop HOST, client only.​
1. Activate the Remote Desktop feature in Windows 7... Click here for a website that tells you how, easy.
2. You need to make sure any routers/firewalls (not W7) allow incomming traffic to your W7 box on port 3389 (TCP). Click here for article on doing this.
3. Once all that is done you should be able to access your W7 box via RDP, if done correctly, from your HD2. Just run Remote Desktop (HD2) and put in the IP for your external connection of your router. If you don't know your IP, click here to find out. Your IP may change randomly, most ISP do this unless you have a static IP from them. You'll also need to enter your username and password.
This was a real simple outline of how to do this, in no way am I responsible for anything that may happen as a result of you following this. There are many possible issues that may interfere with this that I didn't go over, ISP blocking etc.​
There are definate security concerns and procedures that one should also follow, however, this post isn't the place to discuss all of that. Having an exposed RDP port without any security is a mistake and I do not recommend it.
Hope that helps.
I'm trying to use Remote Desktop on my HD2 to connect to my home PC with Windows 7.
same problem and i am blocking no ports on my routers and my firewalls are all turned off on the local machines
*** edit *** triedit on a win 7 ultimate machine and it worked. Seems that even if you enable remote desktop on win 7 home premium etc it wont work. Had to be ultimate for me. Strange they even put the option in lesser editions.
Most problems with RDP are on the computer side. Try to connect to that computer from other computer, when it works, start trying using phone.
found a hack. supposidly this works http://www.mediafire.com/?0qznddamqkz unzip and run as administrator on your home premium machine
testing it out now ...
As I wrote, Home versions do not support Remote Desktop HOST. Yes, there is a hack - never tried it though as I run either Enterprise or Ultimate versions of Windows 7.

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