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BT Stereo Headphones for XDA now available!

Hi guys...
have u seen this?
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
And now the question
Can u please have a look for me at the compatibility page... does that means anything for the XDAII?
Of course I mean as far as working as phone is concerned... of course the stereo audio would play.
Do any of u have or have tried the headphones? Do they work with the XDA in phone mode? Could they work?
If you don't know I would play guinea pig and order now!
Thanks,
Chris

from what the page says then it looks like will not be connecting to the xda2 using bluetooth but you just plugin the at minijack and the xda see it as a normal headset
and then the little box sendt the info to the headset
but of cause this would require you to use a minijack 3.5m to 2.5m converter
and you would not be able to use it for phone calls

Thank you... but why?
Dear Rudegar,
can I ask you why?
I do understand I would need the minijac converter and I would not be able to use the wired bottom for phone calls, but I tough I could still use the headset connected via BT for the phone call just as I did with my SE HBH-35 (before I lost it...).
Why you think I would not be able to use via BT? If I use BT tools?
Thanks!
Chris

it all comes down to how they made the device really
as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack
maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box
but the headset dont seem to have a mic
and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand
as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box

not sure about this but i do recall reading somewhere that the headset in the article does NOT work with the xda2. not sure if it's through this forum or another article. now if another chap could find that article somewhere...
a mate of mine living in hong kong tried using this headset with his xda and the bluetooth didn't work...unless of course he was doing something wrong so don't peg it on me
given that the bluetooth headset does not work with the xda2's bluetooth; the reason the converter may be needed is because the dongle might have a built-in 3.5mm jack. the xdas use 2.5mm jacks; thus needing the 3.5-2.5 mm converter. once you have the converter then basically you have the dongle piggy-backing on the xda...reminds me of the time i used a jabra bt with my xda1; the headset had an adaptor for non-bluetooth phones...downside was that you had the jabra dongle piggy-backing. the same could apply for the bluetake headset. you would need the dongle to be connected to the xda in order for the bluetooth to function.
i also recall reading that the bluetooth of the xda2 does not support wmp...
cheers
-r

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If you are looking for a Bluetooth headset for non Bluetooth device, this could be the solution!!!

Thank you, let me expain better!
Thanks to u all for all the replies to my question.
Let me be a little more spefic. There are 2 parts to how this headset works:
1) As a stereo headset connected via BT to the company's little box that connect to any 3.5 stereo jack (no matter what they are for... stereo, ipod, or XDAII bottom plug with an adapter).
For this use I have no dubt it would work since the 3.5 jack is same for everybody
2) As a headset (it supports both Headset and Hands-Free profiles) to pair with the XDA II as I would do with my SE HBH-35 for use as a phone only.
Would this bit work?
Thank you!
Chris
Rudegar:
"as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack"
Correct for function 1
"maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box"
My understanding is that u do this and through this connection u can use the headset only as a phone oyu need to ALSO connect to the box to also get stereo sound
"but the headset dont seem to have a mic"
It does
"and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand"
It doesn't matter. I hope I would get audio streaming from the bottom 2.5 to 3.5 jack to little-box to BT to headset
AND
the phone function connecting the headset in (Headset or Hands-Free profile) to the XDAII. The only think I care about the stack is that it pairs with the headset in phoneheadset mode.
"as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box"
Correct, but I still need the headset to be BT compatible with the XDAII to use function 2
Robson: thank you, I wrote the maker asking if there are any known issue with the XDAII

but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone ?
have anybody tried to connect a 2.5m headset the one that comes with the device and then bound a headset and see if the 2.5m headset interfear with the bluetooth when it rings ?

"but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone?"
I understand that by device you mean the headphones. I am not sure if it drops the connection or not, but u here the ring and when u answer it stops the music
I have attached the manual I found on the website

would be pretty cool to see a test of it with xda2 and maybe an ipaq so one could see if it would be even cooler if you were using the non ms bluetooth stack

I bought it!
I bought it!
I will let u all know if it works once arrives... I will have one week to test it or send it back.
I don't know if it would work much better with an Ipaq... as far as I know you can't get stereo audio out through BT from an Ipaq either...

i believe that the ipaq's bluetooth stack should support it but i'm not 100%
some guy in this forum did manage to get audio from his pc to his bluetooth headset but the quality was pretty poor

http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
the imate and xda2 and such are listed on the compatible list of this headset
but just how compatible we'll see when you or somebody else get hold of one and try it out

F**k what I said, it don't means s**t now...
Hi guys... got it yesterday... returning it today...
Qucik summary:
1) It worked fairly well as stereo headphone with the included box
2) It paired with the XDAII, but the audio was very ppr with a lot of eco and the botton to answer or close the call did not work with the original BT (1.52) nor with BT Tools.
Sorry guys....

wonder if it would have worked better with the WidCom stack

Did you try contacting their tech support at all? Usually companies with a new product like that are willing to work with users.

Yes I did
Yes, I did contact them:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:07:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian
Subject: Compatibility with XDAII
To: [email protected]
Hi!
Can I use the i-PHONO BT420 EX Hi-Fi Sports Headphone Kit with an XDAII/iMate/QTek2020/OrangeM1000? (They are different names for the same pda/phone produced by HTC).
Are there any known issues?
Let me expain better myself:
1) I know and I am aware I cannot get stereo audio out of the PDA through BT from any application unless I connect the stereo jack to an adapter that get me to a 3.5 jack to connect to the BT transmitter box
2) What I would like to know is if I could pair and use the headphones with the BT of the the XDAII just for the phone part (as I would do with any other BT headset), so getting the mic and speaker to work
Thanks,
Chris
I go no answer... in the mean time I managed to buy, receive and send it back.

Hi cchris
Here you have one working Bluetooth stereo headset.
I have bought it for 1 1/2 month ago and works great with the Xda II
Here is the link.
http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/eng/product/product_bap.php
It work as a bluetooth headset with a 128M mp3 player.
If you listen to music and if you receve a call the the mp3 goes down and you can answer the call.
You receve a USB Dongel witch you can connect to the PC and listen to stereo music t ex.
Regards
Josef

Sounds Great but...
Thank you JoseF!
It sounds great!
I believe u mean the BT Headset on the link given (the BT Stereo Headset is reported as not yet available)
If I understand u correctly, by saying it works great with the XDAII you mean that it pairs. Can I ask a few questions:
-does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
I just bought a 1GB SD card, I don't want to carry a separate device for MP3, I would like to do everything from the XDA, also get the audio from the movies I play with the thing!
Thank you!
Chris
P.S.: By the way where did u bought it/where do u think I can get the best price for it?

Hi Chris,
does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
Yes it has a botton to push to answer.
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
No,not at the moment, It will be possibel in the future.If sameone can make the widcomm stack to work (h6315).
I dont know if the device is available at the moment.I have a friend that bought one in Januari,It was just 64M storage.
I bought mine in Juli , They have change the storage to 128M.
If you are intrested contact khcoi . Take a look at FAQ at http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/bbs/rboard.php?id=e_qa
Regards
JoseF

Bluetooth Handfree Issue

Hi Everybody,
I am using the X01HT which running with
Rom : 2.05.255.1
Radio Ver. 1.34.00.10
The problem is my friend said that my speech sound very poor (the background sound very strong )
when my phone is connected with the BT Handfree.
Just wanna know how the chase the problem is from my handfree or my phone.
furthermore, Is it possible to check my handfree is running real A2DP (Stereo sound )
my Handfree info: http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=2&pid=02050
sorry for my poor english

Your english is fine
This not an area I know much about but the following may be of use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1152585&highlight=sound+quality#post1152585
HtweakC Link
http://www.fit4cat.de/thread.php?threadid=263
Try using search as there are several posts on this kind of problem.
Mike

You can check A2DP by playing a song that is in stereo. Anything with an obvious sound in the right channel will do, as if A2DP is not working it will only be playing in mono.
Also, the little icon in the taksbar will show a headset with a music note inside of it if A2DP is working.
The sound problems you mention are probably due to the quality of the headset. Try it on another phone or try a different headset on your phone.

I am using the same ROM and radio and my BT works great. (AKU 3.3)
I use both the Nokia HS-12W and a HTC BHS 100.
A2DP will give true stereo in WMP10. Strange I found the Registry still set to mono, so I had to change that for stereo.
The call quality both incomming and outgoing is great with these headsets as well.
The HTC also allows you to use your favourite earphones as well.(3.5mm jack)
Hope this assists.

Thanks
Thanks all first.
Yesterday, I did some stupid test about the voice quality,
I used the recording function in Note to record my own sound near the TV in my home, and found it was not bad.
However, then I went out use the BT headset again, but my friend said, dont use it again, my sound really poor
After that, I bought a BT dongle to try to test my BT headwith in my computer, but the Dongle comes with the bad BT management Driver, called XTNDCoonect Blue Manager.
Do you all have the widcomm software and send it to me ?
I dont know it is against the policy in the forum.

O2 Atom life FM Radio problem?

Hi There,
I did search many places and many sites on internet but don't know how to overcome this issue. Herein my problem:
Actually, I am using a O2 Atom Life Pocket PC phone and I want to hear FM radio on Bluetooth headset (Wireless and Handsfree feature) but I cannot use Bluetooth Handsfree to hear FM. My problem is When my bluetooth device was actually paired with my Pocket PC then I open FM Radio player it shows "FM Radio requires Stereo Headset to be connected to function". Please note that I can play and hear MP3 music normally with my Bluetooth handsfree device.
Please tell me is there anyway to overcome this problem? Or I need to make any configuration or any software for this to hear FM radio with bluetooth handsfree.
I am look forward to getting your reply soon.
Best regards,

I think it depends on the fact that the FM-Radio needs an antenna. And since this is provided by the cable of the headphone it cannot work without it.

Thanks for your response. I am still looking for the others ways to overcome this inconvenience. I hope I can find some tools, registry hack or software to fix it. If you guys have anyway to do this please share me.
Best regards,

[email protected] said:
Thanks for your response. I am still looking for the others ways to overcome this inconvenience. I hope I can find some tools, registry hack or software to fix it. If you guys have anyway to do this please share me.
Best regards,
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I'm afraid that there will never be a possibility to "hack" this purely physical problem. There won't be another possilbility as to "simulate" the presence of a headset. Try the following: Buy a 2.5 mm headphone-jack and solder a single wire to pin 1,2 3 or 4 (I don't know which one is the right one for the antenna). Note that by inserting the jack the speakers will be muted anyway. I'm not sure whether the bluetooth function will be influenced by that, but I don't think so.
Good luck!

Sorry about resurrecting an old thread, but I wonder about something of the same. I'm gonna buy one of those Motorla S9 headsets, and I would like to use it for radio as well. Is it possible to use A2DP to listen to the radio, or can I only get regular low quality BT audio? I know it's possible to use the radio via BT if you use the BTAudio Toggle program (which I believe did origin here on the forum).

Mastiff said:
Sorry about resurrecting an old thread, but I wonder about something of the same. I'm gonna buy one of those Motorla S9 headsets, and I would like to use it for radio as well. Is it possible to use A2DP to listen to the radio, or can I only get regular low quality BT audio? I know it's possible to use the radio via BT if you use the BTAudio Toggle program (which I believe did origin here on the forum).
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pls help me.
my atom can't searcing the FM radio frekuensi..report selfdiag..FM radio erro=0

I usually use the FM radio for my Atom Life. When I exit the FM Radio program, the unit becomes extremely slow, no activity. I have to reset to use the phone again. Does anybody experienced this? Please help.

FM Radio with bluetooth headset

Hi,
I would like to hear FM radio on my bluetooth headset.
I know FM requires the wired headset in order to have the antena, I'm OK with it. The problem is that the sounds is in the wired headset and not my BT one.
I seen a post in the "HD general" section where a soft is recommended, unfortunately, the soft in is russian langage and I got error when trying to use it.
Anybody have a solution ?
Thanks,
JBT1

I would like to see a solution on this as well... I"m working in a place with a lot of steal walls, therefore i can only listen radio stations at the window. It would be really cool if i could leave the phone & the headphones at the window and have the sound in my bluetooth headset. Any idea if/how this could be done?

Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584828

[Q] Bluetooth, Skype & FM Radio

1) Skype & Bluetooth
1.1) When in a normal skype call my bluetooth headset work fine for audio but it ignores the microphone
1.2) When in a normal skype call and we switch to a video call or if someone calls with video it ignores my bluetooth headset & plays on speaker but if I insert wired earphones it comes through on them.
2) When I'm wanting to listen to the radio I can't use my bluetooth headset because the phone wants a cable inserted but if I insert wired earphones for signal but keep bluetooth on it ignores the bluetooth and plays onto the wired earphones.
Can anyone help with those issues pointed out above?
Rom used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 / [ROM][Sep 26] ILWT CM7 211 with Virtuous OC Daemon

Hyflex said:
2) When I'm wanting to listen to the radio I can't use my bluetooth headset because the phone wants a cable inserted but if I insert wired earphones for signal but keep bluetooth on it ignores the bluetooth and plays onto the wired earphones.
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Not sure if you were able to switch sound to the bluetooth headset, that you would still be able to receive the FM radio signal. The FM radio uses the bluetooth receiver to receive the radio signals (bluetooth is a just a form of short-range FM radio).

redpoint73 said:
Not sure if you were able to switch sound to the bluetooth headset, that you would still be able to receive the FM radio signal. The FM radio uses the bluetooth receiver to receive the radio signals (bluetooth is a just a form of short-range FM radio).
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So you are saying its impossible to use bluetooth whilst using FM Radio as it's one channel is being actively used?
The main issue I really want to get fixed is the Skype issue.... it doesn't have this problem outside of CM mods (it worked fine in MIUI and Sense Based ROMS)

Hyflex said:
So you are saying its impossible to use bluetooth whilst using FM Radio as it's one channel is being actively used?
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I clearly said I'm not sure. Just pointing out that the FM radio uses the Bluetooth receiver, and that might interfere with using a BT headset at the same time. But somebody with more technical knowledge of how the BT receiver on our phone works will need to chime in with a definitive answer.