Okay, so you remember the G1 hardware specs that were released recently, right? It mentioned such things like the chipset allows for TV out.
Well, it appears that the new Zeebo gaming console targeting emerging countries is supposedly a hacked version of the G1...
Check out this article which has a picture of the prototype http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Various/Zeebo/feature.asp?c=13361. There is also a thread going on over at Slashdot on the topic http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/20/165214.
I wonder how this will affect game development?
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HTC Says Software Fix is Coming For Lousy Video Drivers
Is this real? I know it is only a software/driver fix, but it is better than not...
rumors, rumors and more rumors.
There are countless rumors for and against this claim. No one here knows for sure.
It looks to me like this thread will be yet another source of baseless rumors...
EDIT: Ah, that was supposed to be a link. Perhaps post the correct link to the article you are referring to, and we can discuss that. Right now, the link is http://HTC Says Software Fix is Coming For Lousy Video Drivers, which is obviously not a proper URL.
Dishe said:
rumors, rumors and more rumors.
There are countless rumors for and against this claim. No one here knows for sure.
It looks to me like this thread will be yet another source of baseless rumors...
EDIT: Ah, that was supposed to be a link. Perhaps post the correct link to the article you are referring to, and we can discuss that. Right now, the link is http://HTC Says Software Fix is Coming For Lousy Video Drivers, which is obviously not a proper URL.
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Fixed... Here is the meat:
Some of our top engineers have investigated video performance on our devices and have discovered a fix that they claim will dramatically improve performance for common on-screen tasks like scrolling and the like. Their fix would help most of our recent touch-screen products including the Touch family of devices and TYTN II / Tilt, Mogul / XV6900. The update is in testing and we hope to release it soon. However this fix is not a new video driver to utilize hardware acceleration; it is a software optimization. Video drivers are a much more complicated issue that involves companies and engineers beyond HTC alone. We do not want to lead anyone to believe they should expect these. To explain why we are not releasing video acceleration instead of the optimization I offer you our official statement... "HTC DOES plan to offer software upgrades that will increase feature functionality, over the air wireless speeds and other enhancements for some of the phones being criticized, but we do not anticipate including any additional support for the video acceleration issues cited in customer complaints. It is important for customers to understand that bringing this functionality to market is not a trivial driver update and requires extensive software development and time. HTC will utilize hardware video acceleration like the ATI Imageon in many upcoming products. Our users have made it clear that they expect our products to offer an improved visual experience, and we have included this feedback into planning and development of future products. To address lingering questions about HTC's current MSM 7xxx devices, it is important to establish that a chipset like an MSM7xxx is a platform with a vast multitude of features that enable a wide range of devices with varied functionality. It is common that devices built on platforms like Qualcomm's will not enable every feature or function. In addition to making sure the required hardware is present, unlocking extended capabilities of chipsets like the MSM 7xxx requires in-depth and time consuming software development, complicated licensing negotiations, potential intellectual property negotiations, added licensing fees, and in the case of devices that are sold through operators, the desire of the operator to include the additional functionality. To make an informed decision about which handset suits them best, consumers should look at the product specification itself instead of using the underlying chipset specifications to define what the product could potentially become."
I was at this conference. Take a look at what is inside the Mogul, Vogue, etc (aka Convergennce platform) chipset: (The second half talks about the graphics capabilities)
http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew_bnry/pdf/events/brew_2005/t202_ligon_qualcomm.pdf
It is difficult to be angy at HTC, as just about every HW vendor does this: The retail channels and the manufacturers want product diversity, but Qualcomm can't design all that many chips (a full chip design is expenive), nor can they build a wide diversity of fab plants so they just disable parts or leave out drivers.
The question that no one can answer due to NDA's is who exactly is holding them back? I.e. it may be that Qualcomm didn't license the accelerator for this part from ATI or that HTC didn't license the rights to from Qualcomm.
Either way, a gdi/direct draw driver for the basics is not a massive undertaking. We aren't asking for DirectX 10 suport.
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To make an informed decision about which handset suits them best, consumers should look at the product specification itself instead of using the underlying chipset specifications to define what the product could potentially become."
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Here is the thing.... when I looked at what specs were available to me when I bought my Mogul, they looked better than my Wing. I expected better video performance than a 2 year old phone. What they said sounds like back peddling.
Sounds to me like all they are going to do is a quick software optimization which they will call a video fix, when in reality, it has nothing to do with the video hardware inside the device.
They are just releasing this and calling it a "video fix" to get all the people like us who want full functionality to shut the .... up about it.
We has given up?
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We has given up?
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Most likely. One of those "believe it when you see it".
that pdf is such a teaser so my phone is as powerful as ps2 and i cant use it thats just messed up and you know all the hardware their cause its integrated.This sucks cause i never play games cause they always play horrible. htc is so responsible for the iphone gui blowing away any other phones.
Originally the USB Host and TV Out was announced, but in latest official spec is missing.
Is there a chance that both features will be available later (after some patch)?
I believe that such modern chipset supports both. I can't understand why HD2 should be missing TV Out while older devices have it. HD2 is designed for multimedia, isn't it???
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I can't understand why HD2 should be missing TV Out while older devices have it. HD2 is designed for multimedia, isn't it???
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Well, AFAIK HTC does not license the complete chipset with all funtionality from qualcomm, because that would be too expensive. They just license functions. Anf if they don't license these capabilities, it wouldn't be surprising if certain (even older) HTC phones support a function, that other phones don't support.
I think that is the major point why some time ago some phones didn't support 3D acceleration and htcclassaction.org was launched.
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Originally the USB Host and TV Out was announced, but in latest official spec is missing.
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I hear this a lot, but nobody can also show a source where HTC announced that it would have this, just random speculation from a clueless forum user or two.
I don't believe it to be true, but am open to being proved wrong.
HTC never announced those both functions for the HD2, it was only rumours, spec leaks and a beta-tester's confirmation (for usb-host that is, while i think he misunderstood the point of usb-host..).
i played around in the registry earlier today and found a TV-out option, but also keys named rhodium, so it seems its all messed up
I've been interested in starting a project like this since I read the specifications of the MT6236 chip, and now I'm starting this thread with hope that this will turn into a real project of running Android on MT6236-based phones.
For those of you that don't know MT6236 is one of the chips mostly implemented in chinese mobile phone knockoffs. However, the chips specification look like it could run Android.
It has a ARM9 @312MHz processor which is AFAIK the most generic thing I could write but it also sounds possible to run Android.
MT6236 official page
I used this for reference for Android requirements:
http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/system_requirements.html
So what do you say people, could we make something out of this? Or just shoot me down.
For full touch fones it is possible but guess noone is willing to be mad cause of different key layouts
Engadget has just posted some of the videos on T Mobile G slate showing the awsome Honeycomb ui
Read further here-http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/googles-android-3-0-honeycomb-for-tablets-a-guided-tour-of-the/
How is this related to the N1?
I find it frustrating that every time I come in here looking for info, I have to sift through 100 threads that have absolutely nothing to do with the N1. Just because you own an N1 doesn't mean that you should post every thread that has anything even remotely android related.
It is nexus one related dude, I read some speculation that Honeycomb was centered around tablets, but smartphones could receive a smaller version (similar to iPad - iPhone OS) for phones.
Although I also heard somewhere recently that honeycomb will only run on dual-core processors. We will have to see if that's true, and if so; if cooking is possible.
I know many folks have been hoping that Google will release its own set top system.
I read an article yesterday that said Joe Britt, head of [email protected], has left Google and that the ADT-1 reference platform given out at google i/o this year may never land as a Google hardware product....
http://www.talkandroid.com/219739-a...t-lead-googles-androidhome-may-be-in-trouble/
However, also in the last day, I saw an article indicating that benchmarks had leaked on a device tthat looks like an Android set-top box, an "asus nexus player"
http://androidspin.com/2014/09/16/asus-nexus-player-android-tv-launch-device/
the device has a whopping 8 gig of internal storage - just like the fireTV...
I don't know how to align these two reports...
One thing I'll be interested in is whether one day we'll be able to rip the Amazon firmware completely out of this device and replace it with a port of the asus player software load.
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I know many folks have been hoping that Google will release its own set top system.
I read an article yesterday that said Joe Britt, head of [email protected], has left Google and that the ADT-1 reference platform given out at google i/o this year may never land as a Google hardware product....
http://www.talkandroid.com/219739-a...t-lead-googles-androidhome-may-be-in-trouble/
However, also in the last day, I saw an article indicating that benchmarks had leaked on a device tthat looks like an Android set-top box, an "asus nexus player"
http://androidspin.com/2014/09/16/asus-nexus-player-android-tv-launch-device/
the device has a whopping 8 gig of internal storage - just like the fireTV...
I don't know how to align these two reports...
One thing I'll be interested in is whether one day we'll be able to rip the Amazon firmware completely out of this device and replace it with a port of the asus player software load.
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Everyone is misinterpreting the recent article at Android Police. They should have been more clear in their article to say the ADT-1 was once supposed to be a Nexus Android TV device. It fell through because some people left. That basically sums it up. Android TV isn't going away before it even launches.
I'd also take all rumors with a grain of salt. Every other day the rumors change the specs on what the Nexus 6 will be.
I have Rokus and a FireTV. Comparing the two, there are aspects of each that I like better than the other. I see the FireTV as having the potential to be vastly superior to Roku in the long term, and with this in mind I see Android TV as being in a position to jump out in front from the start if done right. I'm not holding my breath, and I'm satisfied with my current setup, but at the same time I'm looking forward to the real life hands on reviews when Android TV boxes start shipping.
Doom and gloom rumors aside, I'm pretty confident Android TV boxes are going to be released. ADT-1 reference boxes have been shipped to manufacturers and devs. ADTV versions of apps are being developed (made remote/big screen friendly), hardware manufacturers are moving forward with both the set-top-boxs and integrated into TVs. All Google needs to do is release hardware specs for compatibility (which they have done), the SDK (which they have done), and the OS (Android L). I don't care if Google never releases their own brand of Nexus TV. It's just like Android phones and tablets, let them all compete with each other to see who comes out with the best setup. Google just needs to do what they do best, the OS.