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Is there anybody who can't find his/her Universal veeeeryyyy veerryyyyy sloooow????
If yes, which 3rd party softwares installed?
I'm really thinking about selling it.
I really love VGA, 3G, and other things, but I feel I have 286 PC with a MacG5 hardware chances.
If I want my VGA PDA to run well, I should not install most of appications written nowadays.
I'm really really sad.
What to do?
Who is the hero who finds his toy acceptable?
And HHHHOOOOOWWWWW????
I'm not an amateur - very very not -, but I'd like to use the abilities of the Universal, but it seems, it can't give me its capabilities. I have to chose which app I want very well and which not.
HEEEEEEEELP!!!
SOMEBODYYYYY!!!!
As I said already in other thread, my Exec is running very fast, screen orientation change is very quick, I have no delay in answering phone calls, always over 21-22 Mb memory and it doesn't freeze at all.
I soft reset it every 4-5 days.
Applications that I have now installed (all of them in phone memory) after trying many others are:
- MohairSofa Calendar+ Today PlugIn
- Insignia Solutions JeodeRuntime
- Vijay555 VJOkButt
- Softick Card Export II
- Softatics Corporation xConverter Pro ( great software!!!!)
- Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
- Handmark Monopoly
- Kasuei Hitchhiker
- Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
- TCPMP The Core Pocket Media Player
- PHM Registry Editor
- GreenSoftware GSFinder+
Everything is running absolutely flawless.
I have UMTS connection avaliable 95% of the times, I'm using Orange UK 3G Sim
My radio is the 1.04 version and I see absolutely no reason for update.
I had many problems before, which seemed to dissapear after a careful selection of software installed.
Thanx the answer.
"I had many problems before, which seemed to dissapear after a careful selection of software installed." - You wrote
Yes, you are right, but I don't want to be careful to select which software I can use.
I WANT TO USE ALL THE SOFTWARES I USED WITH MY O2 XDAIIi !!!
Why is it a big wish?
It is the same if you buy a laptop, and you can use just WindowsXP with Opera Browser, a 3rd party calculator and some ActiveX plugin.
If this device can use just these few apps without freezing or crashing and with acceptable speed, then this is just ten pence a schilling. ( ) (I just learned this in english)
In this case I'd rather buy a stable, fast and old Nokia phone.
OK. I'm trying to write what I'm using:
With the Storage:
- SBSH iLauncher 2.2
- SBSH Pocket Breeze 5
- Marsware WeatherPanel
- AlarmToday
- DKtoday
- PocketZenphone
- WisbarAdvance2
- Wisbar Desktop
- Dinarsoft HandyMenu
- Dinarsoft MemMaid
- Double Launcher
- Macromedia FlashPlayer
- Spb GPRSmonitor
- XCPUscalar
- PDAmill Topkey
- RescoExplorer
- Novosec SmartFilter
- Sunnysoft BackupManager
- PhatWare PhatPad
- Microsoft VB Runtimes for PPC
- RescoViewer
On Storage Card:
- Resco PocketRadio
- MobiMate WorldMate 2006 professional
- SKtools
- OmegaOne 1-Calc
- Astro WinCE
- PocketMusic
- Cash Organizer 05
- ListPro
- Bryht FlashPlayer
- Opera
- TomTom Navigator 5
- Aeromap VR3
- CheckNotifications
- Tweaks2k2
- PocketMechanic
- System Monitor Pro
- eWallet
- VITO MobileDownloader
- VITO SoundExplorer
- WiFiFoFum
- OutlookCleaner
- PocketEarth
- PocketWorldInfo
- SpbImageer
- XnView Pocket
- PocketArtist
.........and many more with a lot of games in 2GB SD
I know this is not a small list but I used all of these on my 2020i without any problem. I used PocketInformant too but I found it really slow on Universal so I decided not to install it.
Maybe You have a question: then why do not use 2020i?
Simple answer: I really hate HTC showing me what is a VGA PDA with 3G.
That is why. I fuc*ing love it and I feel I cannot live without VGA and 3G.
So, if somebody has some experience in upper softs and knows errors or bugs with using them on Universal, please write it to me.
Sorry, but I will never believe that you need and are using all of these applications. And this is definitely the list to slow down your universal.
I like to keep my PC and Pocket PC clean and install only what I need, not what I MAY USE ONE DAY. Clutter is not good in any situation!
And so far it works for me.
And another thing is that many of the applications you have installed are enormous in size: Pocket Breeze, SPB Pocket Plus, Wisbar Advance, MobiMate World Mate Pro,Wisbar Desktop. And there is plenty applications doing the same things which are not only many times smaller in size, faster, and free. Like for example Pocket Breeze and Calendar+ or SPB Pocket Plus and VJOKbutt and VJTrayLaunch.
And don't you think that you sound silly and childish when you say that because you don't want uninstall few of these applications you will stop yourself from using all of them and buy a Nokia. :lol: Go for it, in the meantime I will enjoy using my fast, reliable Exec with all the applications I need...
In one part you have right in other part you don't have.
If you believe or not I'm using almost all of these applications almost every day.
Maybe I can find some which I really don't need but which you wrote in your slowapps-list I really love and if these are forbidden softs with a PDA I'm not sure I'd like to use them.
BUT!!!!
I've been using PDA-phones for years!!!!
I have not any problems with speed and stability before.
I used all of these applications.
WHY IS IT PROBLEM FOR THE NEWEST AND MOST EQUIPPED PDA??????
I'm not able to accept this.
(Spb PocketPlus I'm not using, I found it slower than other slow applications)
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I'm not able to accept this.
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Is that a threat? :wink: :lol:
Good night/morning...Enjoy your new Nokia :lol:
Yes, this is a threat.
Real problem is I'm in a special relationship with my Universal: Hate&Love.
I can't live with and without it.
Maybe I should find a specialist?
Is it a psychic problem now? :roll:
been smoking something? :twisted:
Frankly I understand your angst and kind of feel cheated myself after spending so much money on the Exec. Right now I am down to barebones in terms of the s/w that I have installed on it and inspite of that, it is really slow. One realises how slow the Exec is after having used the XDAII which was blazing fast with at least 3 times more s/w installed. I still have the XDA II and just checked it again... boy it is FAST!
Understandably, I too am dissapointed with this device.
Cheers, Vikas.
Tuningszocske said:
Yes, this is a threat.
Real problem is I'm in a special relationship with my Universal: Hate&Love.
I can't live with and without it.
Maybe I should find a specialist?
Is it a psychic problem now? :roll:
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@Tuningszocske
Same here. love and hate.
With my Nokia 9500 I never worried about how much s/w I installed (especailly with 80mb of user storage) but with my Exec I now only use Agenda Fusion, MS Reader (which is buggy), Opera & Mobireader.
Personally I don't think the problem is from the device itself, but the software. WM5 seems to run a lot slower than 2003SE, and even with faster CPUs and more memory, it's kinda like trying to run Windows XP on a Pentium 500... In other words, we'll need to wait for the hardware to mature and specs to be much more advanced to run WM5 at full speed. The hardware manufacturers also have to learn to use the new functions of the new OS, and learn to work around its quirks, but this can be solved by firmware updates.
So yeah, the Universal is great, as long as you keep things relatively simple with it.
Answering your question is a bit of a personal preference. But for me, I am very happy with my EXEC. This is my first Pocket PC coming from a TH55/E1 Palm OS. Anyone who owned a TH55 knows it only can run applications at 144 MHz, with tons of applications installed it was very slow in opening applicaions, but once opened it runs smoothly. So for me, coming from a slow device to my EXEC is like a blessing. PLUS, as mentioned above, I only install applications that I really use and tend not to clutter my 2GB SD card which I use mostly for keeping my MP3s and Movies. I have no complaints so far. I never had any of the problems described in some threads like being slow, delayed rings, bluetooth problems, etc...
more than happy with it, only a few gripes, but that is towards the 3rd party applications with exception of the lack of a backup function, in general it is fast enough, considering it is a pda phone.
for speed, I just whip out my Sony VAIO laptop not as portable nor as light, but each has there uses
this however looks very interesting
http://www.dualcor.com/photos.php
Blue Angel and V3i
Hi all,
Yes - despite having an SPV for over a year (Palm os Treo 600 before that), I must say I'm still forced to draw one conclusion:
Bloated OS on an underpowered device.
I had hoped that after the CE days they would have sorted this out, but had so many problems with my BA being slow and hanging (how cool is it to say "sorry, my ohone just crashed?!"), I did look at the M5000 (wizzard).
I may be wrong on this but I believe the main problems with the BA - namely battery life, memory and cpu speed - weren't upgraded for the wizzard. And, unfortunately, I had to decide that the Wizard is just TOO BIG.
IS it me, but does anyone actually NEED the h/wkeyboard?
So, am going on with a barebones BA, and have bought a motorola V31 as a "propr phone"! Hopefully when i come to replac my phone in 12 months time, things will have got much faster and better in PPC phones....
Yes, I know they can do some very cool things, but I really didnt find the BA a very reliable phone.
Perhaps it's too cumbersome for a phone, and too small for a laptop?
Right idea - keep going - lets see where we are in a year!!
man how people complain...
dont like it, sell it, simple
i dont have a hate relationship at all, i just love it all the way...
i use lots, but again selective, even my existing configurations can make the device run slow, so i just dont use them for a while and switch them back on when I want to change it.
I have the perfect, fast efficient machine, and if I want to make it look pretty, make it do more functions simultaneously, I accept that it will slow down. Try loading any computer up with 60% - 80% drain on its available ram and its gonna slow down.
The issues are nearly all with the third party applications, the bare bones machine with minimal extended rom installs means I also dont miss a call, rings on the second ring, screen rotation the first time is sub 2 seconds, and subsequently sub 1 second.
I love the bluetooth, keyboard, vga, 3 g, I also like the clam close to protect my screen so that I dont need a case, it just fits in the pocket if I am not wearing tight jeans....
Device is SPB PP (beta), SPB Diary, SPB Weather, SPB Backup (Beta), Resco Explorer, M$VC, KSE True Fax
Card... TCPMP, Resco Audio, Resco Radio, Resco Pictures, Wizbar 2 and Desktop (to play not use), 1 Calc, MS Reader, Bluepoint world and earth, and games
Yes you have to be choosy on your apps, but these are the software developers fault for not correctly utilising and keeping upto date with the change in technology, the permanent storage rather than pure RAM, and thus calling permanent storage information into RAM whn it is in storage.
We wanted permanent storage, but the developers have written applications for the the 2003/SE system and "adapted" to the WM2005 system, and it isnt that adaptable.
They must catch up , they will catch up, but dont whinge about your phone, it works, it works well, the apps are the are that screw it up.
Again, dont like it, sell it, stop whinging, some of you guys sound worse that my missus....
This is not a whinge forum, it is a help and contribute forum to share and develop knowledge.
@simon_darley, okay a balancing view. But lets not promote the Universal as being fault free because this is not true: SMS causing freezing, delayed call alert and loss of data after soft reset. Not making this up, I have suffered these problems.
jah said:
@simon_darley, okay a balancing view. But lets not promote the Universal as being fault free because this is not true: SMS causing freezing, delayed call alert and loss of data after soft reset. Not making this up, I have suffered these problems.
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Hello,
I have a QTEK 9000 and:
1. SMS never froze
2. Call Alert always rings in my phone mid-first-ring (i use a 50k mp3)
3. data loss after soft? not sure what this is about
What ROM are you using BTW? Just curious.
@Jorgee, suggest you have a quick look at this forum. There are lots of threads about the problems I mentioned. Regarding the call alert, I have now installed the new Radio ROM and there are significant improvements for finding a weak signal and call alert is also much better. The SMS freez was with my JJ which I have now sold. The loss of data - again the architecture of the Universal does mean this can happen. If RAM data is not written to ROM because of a fault. Again lots of posts on this here at this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...s=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sms+freez&start=0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34724&highlight=sms+freez
Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
I have an 8125 and it can get slow when running a few large programs of things. Like PIE or Opera & Media Player or Core. I will also tell you that its not an extremely fast device but it is in part due to the fact that programs are not writen to utilize the processor the Wizard has. That's what I have come to understand atleast. If anyone else has input on it please share.
Later; Lew
I was hoping Opera would be less "fat" but from you have indicated that might not be the case. I wonder if Verizon's XV6700 make a difference in speed since their version is 400mhz.
I figure they're pretty much the same device and decided to go w/ TMobile since it's GSM.
Back to the slow issue, I notice the apps don't really close even if you close them. I have go to System to manually stop them to get the RAM back. Is that normal?
It is also slow because of memory design. There are more topics on this. You can't lose data when battery is empty, but type of memory used is slower.
Well thats a trade I am willing to make. I was always checking my battery on my SX66. Now atleast I can relax and jsut use the device. The 6700 from verizon should run these apps faster because it has a normal but higher speed procesor. It is 400 mhz but not dual core. Where as the Wizard is 200 (195) mhz Dual Core. I think that if apps were writen to utilize this they would run much better, as fast as the 400mhz.
Later; Lew
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
Skype has a minimum processor speed requirement, quite clearly stated on their website, which the XDA Mini unfortunately does not meet. Again, unfortunately that is the only version you can use for it since earlier Skype builds will not run at all under WM5. One trick is to run Skype from the MiniSD card which has the advantage of freeing up precious RAM, in fact I would recommend you only install any new applications onto the MiniSD card.
Skype
In my case I found a noticeable improvement once I uninstalled Skype. It wasn't running constantly. I regularly checked the Task Manager closing all unnecessary apps as it was so slow.
Might just be me though!
optical said:
Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
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When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
I'm just waiting for my miniSD card before I go with the tweaks. I'm just a little surprised at what I have to do to just run the apps the OS came with. I guess I had a higher expectation for this device as for performance. You would think 64MB on a phone device is enough!
I noticed one of the tweaks is references the GPS. What is that about? Is that referring to GPS as in GPS receiver? =)
I got a BT receiver and planning to use it but I would love to be surprised about the GPS feature.
JNGold said:
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
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I will definitely give it a try. Please keep the great tips coming!
FalconGrey said:
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
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Hi,
Concers have been risen over the past few days over the speed of Xperia and Xperia panels. Some users of the mobile have been heard saying that though the device is overall really fast, but there is definitely a tad bit lag at times.
After having talked to a cousin in England in detail about it, he says that it is faster than he would have expected a Windows Mobile device to be. He also mentions that the panels interface is a bit slow at times but mostly when opening/switching to the Sony Ericsson Panel, which takes a second or two at times to refresh the panel icons and stuff - this when loading the panel as well as when switching from landscape to portrait or the other way around. Other panels, according to him, are really fast.
I would like to request the owners of Xperia to post their opinions on the speed of Xperia in this thread.
And for those of us who have yet to see the device in their hands, here is a video to get you excited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf44dukS9Lc
This guy goes through the Spb Panel and then shows another panel as well as panel switching and customization. The Spb Panel is awesome and super fast! The main Windows Panel is also fast. And switching from portrait to landscape and the other way around is perfect. He did however skip the Sony Ericsson Panel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sUyHkGlLPI
This is another video i found. Though he records it against a mirror - so turned image - but still a cool one. Notice that the Sony Ericsson Panel takes very little time to refresh - although he didn't have much icons/shortcuts on that panel. Also note that the media Panel takes like 2 or less seconds to load up, but speed of the panel is fast. Other than that, things are looking awesome.
Enjoy!
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
Speedy, Rapido
msalmank said:
Hi,
Concers have been risen over the past few days over the speed of Xperia and Xperia panels. Some users of the mobile have been heard saying that though the device is overall really fast, but there is definitely a tad bit lag at times.
After having talked to a cousin in England in detail about it, he says that it is faster than he would have expected a Windows Mobile device to be. He also mentions that the panels interface is a bit slow at times but mostly when opening/switching to the Sony Ericsson Panel, which takes a second or two at times to refresh the panel icons and stuff - this when loading the panel as well as when switching from landscape to portrait or the other way around. Other panels, according to him, are really fast.
I would like to request the owners of Xperia to post their opinions on the speed of Xperia in this thread.
And for those of us who have yet to see the device in their hands, here is a video to get you excited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf44dukS9Lc
This guy goes through the Spb Panel and then shows another panel as well as panel switching and customization. The Spb Panel is awesome and super fast! The main Windows Panel is also fast. And switching from portrait to landscape and the other way around is perfect. He did however skip the Sony Ericsson Panel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sUyHkGlLPI
This is another video i found. Though he records it against a mirror - so turned image - but still a cool one. Notice that the Sony Ericsson Panel takes very little time to refresh - although he didn't have much icons/shortcuts on that panel. Also note that the media Panel takes like 2 or less seconds to load up, but speed of the panel is fast. Other than that, things are looking awesome.
Enjoy!
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
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Thank you salman.
GREAT! That's as fast or faster as any other touch phone! I don't have to read any more comments about Xperia Speed.
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BUT I noticed SOMETHING VERY WEIRD with these two videos.
In the first video the when the keyboard opens the buttons are on the right side of the screen. That's the way it always been and that's fine for my fingers.
The second video when the keyboard is open the buttons are ON THE LEFT of the screen??!!. I wouldn't be able to use the buttons and pad with my left fingers!
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WOOPS!!! I didn't read your post carefully. It's a mirrow !.
The SPB panel definitely looks like the way to use this phone (barring using Manilla or the full SPB Shell or similar). I'll either be using the full SPB Mobile Shell, or Manilla, but looking at those vids (I saw them yesterday) there is a chance I'll be using the panel version of SPB.
My experience with my phone is that it's very fast, much faster than I expected.
Moving around in menus, changing settings and even opening/closing most programs is instant.
Switching between panels is the only thing that take a little time, but ~2 seconds to load a complete panel is still faster than I expected. Once the new panel is loaded the phone is really fast again. Switching between landscape/portrait layout is also more or less instant.
I mainly use the SPB panel now, it's great! Quick access to everything, touch friendly, good looking and fast.
As for the other panels I have used the media panel a few times, it's a really nice interface for movies, pictures, etc. The radio panel.. not much to say about it, it does what it should. The fish tank is fun, especially since the fishes actually have real uses
The original windows today screen and the SE panels.. I used them the first days but I only use SPB for standard use now.
X1 is also fast enough to watch full sized XviD movies without any problems.
The battery capacity is quite good too. If I have everything activated like Wifi, bluetooth, active sync push, make a lot of calls, surf the web, listen to radio and watch a movie I will have to charge it once a day but it will last the whole day.
With a bit more ordinary use it lasts 2-3 days.
NZtechfreak said:
The SPB panel definitely looks like the way to use this phone (barring using Manilla or the full SPB Shell or similar). I'll either be using the full SPB Mobile Shell, or Manilla, but looking at those vids (I saw them yesterday) there is a chance I'll be using the panel version of SPB.
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It does, doesn't it. And seeing how quick and powerful the Spb Panel is, we'll hopefully be seeing more useful and powerful panels in the near future for the device.
Andy Guts said:
My experience with my phone is that it's very fast, much faster than I expected.
Moving around in menus, changing settings and even opening/closing most programs is instant.
Switching between panels is the only thing that take a little time, but ~2 seconds to load a complete panel is still faster than I expected. Once the new panel is loaded the phone is really fast again. Switching between landscape/portrait layout is also more or less instant.
I mainly use the SPB panel now, it's great! Quick access to everything, touch friendly, good looking and fast.
As for the other panels I have used the media panel a few times, it's a really nice interface for movies, pictures, etc. The radio panel.. not much to say about it, it does what it should. The fish tank is fun, especially since the fishes actually have real uses
The original windows today screen and the SE panels.. I used them the first days but I only use SPB for standard use now.
X1 is also fast enough to watch full sized XviD movies without any problems.
The battery capacity is quite good too. If I have everything activated like Wifi, bluetooth, active sync push, make a lot of calls, surf the web, listen to radio and watch a movie I will have to charge it once a day but it will last the whole day.
With a bit more ordinary use it lasts 2-3 days.
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Thank you for that detailed post. It is as i thought - that the panels can take a second or two depending on the type of panel and all, and then the device's speed will be as fast as before. Looking at the Spb panel, i can imagine that more panels will surface soon that take much less time to laod up, in fact instant.
I was also wondering about Xvid movies - because i am a serious Series addict, and it would be nice to watch videos on Xperia. And also thanks for mentioning about the battery. People will complain that a day is not enough, but with heavy usage, how much more do you expect? I have heard - and not doing a comparison here - that Xperia's battery is better than the Touch Pro's in performance?
Best regards.
Salman Khalid.
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I have heard - and not doing a comparison here - that Xperia's battery is better than the Touch Pro's in performance?
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Yeah, the Touch Pro have a 1340 mAh Li-Ion battery while the X1 have a 1500 mAh Li-Po. I don't know how Li-Po compares to Li-Ion but X1's battery does have a higher capacity. X1 also have a higher standby time and talk time in the specifications.
msalmank said:
Thank you for that detailed post. It is as i thought - that the panels can take a second or two depending on the type of panel and all, and then the device's speed will be as fast as before. Looking at the Spb panel, i can imagine that more panels will surface soon that take much less time to laod up, in fact instant.
I was also wondering about Xvid movies - because i am a serious Series addict, and it would be nice to watch videos on Xperia. And also thanks for mentioning about the battery. People will complain that a day is not enough, but with heavy usage, how much more do you expect? I have heard - and not doing a comparison here - that Xperia's battery is better than the Touch Pro's in performance?
Best regards.
Salman Khalid.
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I am also quite interested in how it plays normal xvid movies that one can get online.
Do they play smoothly on the X1 without having to reconvert them?
FunkyMike said:
I am also quite interested in how it plays normal xvid movies that one can get online.
Do they play smoothly on the X1 without having to reconvert them?
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Read my post above, it's even in a separate paragraph.
"X1 is also fast enough to watch full sized XviD movies without any problems."
I haven't watched that many movies/series on it yet but the ones I tried worked perfectly. I just copied an XviD .avi file to the memory card and played it in CorePlayer, it starts right away, there is no lag in picture or sound and the quality is great. No need to convert or down scale it.
The original windows media player doesn't have XviD codec so I used CorePlayer, I bet there are other options out there as well.
Andy Guts said:
Read my post above, it's even in a separate paragraph.
"X1 is also fast enough to watch full sized XviD movies without any problems."
I haven't watched that many movies/series on it yet but the ones I tried worked perfectly. I just copied an XviD .avi file to the memory card and played it in CorePlayer, it starts right away, there is no lag in picture or sound and the quality is great. No need to convert or down scale it.
The original windows media player doesn't have XviD codec so I used CorePlayer, I bet there are other options out there as well.
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hehehe : P I know that you mentioned it. But I just couldnt believe it!!! ))))
I was really looking forward to a device that can play xvid files without having to reconvert them.
Its good to hear that it works with coreplayer. I think the Touch Diamond wasnt powerfull enough to play normal xvid movies. Maybe its the RAM?
Eitherway thanks for letting us know ))!!!!
I can confirm its very fast, panels take a second or to to load depending on the plugins installed
I'm pretty sure if I get this device I probably won't even use different panels very much so panel switching speed isn't an issue for me!
The developer of BeyondPod - possibly one of the best podcatcher/RSS readers available - has decided to focus more on the Android platform and less on WinMo. As anyone who has tried to use BeyondPod on any of the 6.5 builds knows, there are a number of issues with the way it renders feeds (missing scroll bars, no text size control, no finger scrolling, etc). Basically the program needs to be updated to support the new version of IE in 6.5.
This would also be an oppurtunity for anyone interested in the future of BeyondPod on WinMo to take over its development. The project is open source, and there are a number of possible improvements that could make this app even better (feed search, apptodate support, homescreen plugin, etc). The dev would be more than happy to have the help.
Couple links here:
BeyondPod home page
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/
BeyondPod source
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
Discussion on 6.5 issues
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=53878
Anyone interested in tackling this project? Or is there an even better alternative out there for those of us who want to get our podcast on?
No one cares? Or maybe I'm one of the few that do?
Guess I need to teach myself some programming skills . . .
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
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Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
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You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
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You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
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Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
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Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
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Dude. Read the first post carefully. And follow the links.
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
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I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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SECOND that ... i would do it but I am no coder ... BOunty perhaps? or how can we get it done ?
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
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The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
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Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
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Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
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Oh, I dont notice this issue, as what you mentioned work perfectly fine, (Surprisingly) on my device.
I will check out and see how it goes.
Cheers.
Hi All,
jeremy89632 is right, if you just use your Dpad then the error doesn't occur. Another option I have found is that if you use the update and download option then that works as well.
I'm a .NET programmer and I think this is written in .NET. Let me take a peek at the source code for a few days and then I'll let you know if it is something I might want to tackle. I do a TON of development work in .NET but nothing on the mobile platform yet - this might be interesting. Plus, I've been looking for a good RSS/podcast reader myself!
/Chimp (Tom)
Tom, Def check it out it rocks for audio podcasts.
I seem to have found a temp workaround, which tells me a solution cannot be far off. When I go into content view and cannot see the content or it is messed up. I just switch my touch pro to landsacpe and the view is fine abd I can use the dpad to scroll. I will ususally just shift right back to landscape and the view remains perfect but dpad wont scroll until I first touch the screen, then it will dpad scroll with no problem. I can click and download feeds with no problem. I reduced the large text size in beyondpod settings. All the podcasts manage and playback fine but the volume is much lower than normal hard to hear even with mediaplayer and system volume at max. Volume in my other apps and mediaplayer is very loud as normal.
It it more complex than I thought. Also, is this only for a SmartPhone? Or is also for a WM Professional device? When I finally got it loaded into VS2008 it only showed a SmartPhone device.
I'll keep playing with it.
Chimp (Tom)
Definitely PPC touchscreens. On 6.1 it was pretty flawless and fairly finger friendly.
Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
Well, as this app is for the touchscreen users, it is easier to squash bugs for users rather than to create a smartphone version and cause issues.
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Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
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I downloaded the code, as well... I got it to successfully compile and run in the WM6.5 Pro emulator (with the stated problems). You need to change the target platform to WM 6 Pro.
Like you said, the code is really complex, but I kind of understand why, it's a great program, and I've missed it since I finally got 6.5 on my i910...
I don't have a lot of spare time, but I'll try to tackle this thing...
I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.
I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).
What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.
To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...
Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.
honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...
Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!
Also have they actually cut the tasks app out in which case whats above has been pointless?
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I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.
I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).
What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.
To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...
Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.
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I'm pretty sure it will be possible to use MS 3.5 on HD2, although I understand your point. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if (or should I say when ) someone comes with a solution.
honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...
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I think no version. But for those of us who use the phone for work, and hence need tasks, they gave the wonderful option of defeating MANILA and installing a productive UI that support tasks.
Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!
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It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).
Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.
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It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).
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lol but yeh, they dont see them as an important fact to be used, cant be helped really.
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Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.
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Yeh well i have problems on mine and its qvga, i found that adding the start/end times helped alot with finger use, on the front screen at least...
I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.
I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).
If I wanted a "closed environment" where people decide for me what I want to see and how I want it to be presented, I would have gone with an iPhone. WM devices suppose to be all about customization and free choice, but HTC completely misses the mark here in their desperate try to produce an "iPhone killer".
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Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.
I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it, it's all about eye candy and wow factor. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).
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I've never had the tasks on my screen even now with Spb MS (MS Tasks are buggy on my TyTN II). So, I guess we all just have different ways of working and different needs in our phone. I actually never had my calendar on the main screen either because I don't want anyone to see at a glance who I was meeting with next (again, an individual requirement based on my job needs).
I believe the items at the bottom of the screen can be cherry-picked (maybe even reordered) for individual preferences.
While I haven't tried this phone, I see no negatives when compared to my 2-year old phone and several positives, including web browsing and speed. And I AM impressed with the eye-candy.
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hey noam23
I don't like manila, not only because of tasks but just in general I think that spb ms does a better job of letting you customize.
I'm sure that someone will make it possible to turn it off and/or make it possible to run spb ms. that will be a crucial thing for me for sure.
I'm sure some
Before my Touch Pro went back to be fixed I had SPB set up as a soft key. I can't remember how I did it now but it was perfect for how I wanted it. It would be nice if you could add the SPB icon onto your main screen on the Leo.
So let me get this right: you want to be able to see tasks on your home tab. But Manila doesn't support them and you can't switch it off?
I think I have a solution for you: buy another phone! Simple isn't it?
a better solution is to replace the win6.5 lock screen with s2u2 it will show the tasks as soon as you turn on the phone
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a better solution is to replace the win6.5 lock screen with s2u2 it will show the tasks as soon as you turn on the phone
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Interesting... the question is how doable is this ?
Is it fact that we will not be able to use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 on top of manilla??... to get best of both worlds
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Me to. I have concerns about PI's usability on a capacitive screen. I use it on an even larger X7500 (albeit at 128 DPi) and it's pretty unworkable without a stylus.
I was going to get a Leo straight away but I think I need to wait for a few reports on how it gets on with these business style applications.
Of course you can disable sense/manila...
You can also use the new MS titanium or nothing at all if you want..
What kind of fool would think that you can't?
then get another phone, pretty simple. i need winmo for work so i couldnt get an iphone, u need tasks for work dont get the leo.
its amazing to me how much people complain about things that arent even out yet
Hmm can't there be a sort of Tasks Widget to be used with the Sense UI?
Why buy another phone? And why a Tasks widget? (the thing discussed is to having tasks ON the home screen(s). 'fards' say that SPBMS will work on HD2 so that is a pretty good solution
I think that when HTC says officially that the new manila was not like the olders and that will be impossible to disable, maybe this manila on hd2 have drivers or software running in background with the multitouch for other programs or so, so I dont think until I see that we will can use MS3.5 or similar as soon as we get the devce