Some programs do not connecto to internet - Networking

Hi guys,
I posted once similar thread, but may be in wrong section.
My situation is following: Since some time, some apps are not able to connect to internet.
1. When I'm connected through WiFi, apps like QIP, IM+, they are just saying that there is no network available. Other programs like IE, Skype work perfectly.
2. When I'm not connected anywhere, IE and Skype on launch automatically start GPRS/3G connection and work fine. QIP and IM+ do not even attempt to start GPRS/3G connection and again cry for not available network!!!
So is it possible to debug this problem somehow? to find the place (may be registry?) where to change connection settings for IM+?

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Why can't some apps establish a gprs/umts connection ?

When I use total commander's ftp client to connect to an ftp server , total commander itself is not able to establish a gprs/umts connection. I must already be connected (for example open pocket ie before I start ftp) to get it to work. This strange behavior I have also seen in other applications (i.e. pocketirc cannot connect to an irc server if I don't start pocket IE before). Why is that so ? And what can I do about it ?
I had the same problem when I started using ThunderHawk. I had to open Pocket IE to get a connection, close it and then open ThunderHawwk.
Using the always-on GPRS in the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry) solved that issue for me.
Hopefully, that will work for ftp, as well. Let us know.
Boinger
what does that always on registry hack REALLY do ? Does that mean my phone will have a constant GPRS connection ? Does that not mean I must not forget to disconnect manually when I close the phone? Will that not increase the traffic ?
It is kind of an all or nothing deal. If you have ANY programs that can access GPRS data, this hack will allow it. Also, be aware that if you manually disconnect, the connection will automatically re-establish 5-10 sec later while using this hack.
As an example, I use PocketWeather, which I have setup to update every hour. It will update using GPRS if it is not Activesync-ing, every single hour of every day. If you have to pay for data by the amount used, it may not be attractive. I have an unlimited use plan through T-mobile USA for $20/month, so I just don't have to worry.
Other than this hack, I believe you will have to connect the hard way.
Strangely enough, my old PDA phone (hp 6315) would connect just fine with ThunderHawk. It also had a choice under the taskbar 'Connectivity' pop-up bubble for 'GPRS (T-Mobile)' that I could use to easily connect or disconnect. My Jasjar only lists 'T-Zones GPRS (GPRS, 3G)' in the pop-up only when it is connected. So, I suspect that the issue is either with WM5 or T-Mobile added something to the ROM of the 6315 to make it more functional with their network.

GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.
If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.
Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)
To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M
yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.
dood, care to share how you achieve this?
I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...
The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

thoughts on connecting through CRADLE > WIFI > GPRS in order.

hey guys heres abit of unusal question? (to be honest i dont think any of us ask any usual questions )
anyway what im trying to do is find out if there is a way to force a pda when its trying to connect to the internet to first check if internet is avaible through active sync (cradle or usb cable) then to check if WIFI is avaible then if thats not avaible to use gprs - but to use gprs as a last resort.
so the way it will work is an application needs to connect to the internet it first is forced to check for a connection through active sync if thats not avaible then to see if there can be a wifi conenction established if that fails then to connect to gprs and in the order.
i was hoping i could find what scrpits are used when the connections are established and then make a script to run the will force the device to do this.
Or even if there is a reg edit that I can do that will allow me to get this done? (would regedits be possable for this)
Id appericate your thoughts on this guys?
That's how it does work, doesn't it? At least, that's how mine works...
mine tends to connect to whatever it was connected to first - e.g. if I have messenger open via GPRS and then connect to my WiFi network, it will still use the GPRS for it's internet connection. Even if I plug it into the PC, it still uses GPRS.
This can be costly.

Forcing an applicaiton to use one specific internet connection?

Hello! I am using a Kaiser running official O2 WM6.1, but I think this is a general WM6.1 question and I hope this is the right section to post this!
How can I force a particular application to always use a specific internet connection even when multiple internet connections are available?
I have a feeling that when both GPRS/3G and WiFi are enabled, WiFi is always preferred - i.e. all applications internet activities would be transmitted over the wifi. Is there any documentation to verify this?
However, in my situation, I have to use the iskoot client to connect to 3 UK network's iskoot server. I think that server only accept communication when it is from its own network. My 3G connection is therefore always on. However, that means when I connect my phone to PC (active sync enabled) or switch on wifi, my iskoot client cannot communicate with the 3 (UK) iskoot server and hence I cannot make skype call or use skype chat, etc.
My general question is are there any setting/tweak/hack that I can use to enforce a program or change their order of preference for which internet connection to use?
In my specific case, I want almost all other programs to use wifi and active sync when available, but only iskoot to always use 3G connection.
Is it possible?
Thanks!

Convince Windows Live to use WiFi

Hi all,
maybe someone has a solution that does not involve totally disabling GPRS...
Every other app (TwitToday, Active Sync, Pocket IE, Outlook, GPS update, etc pp) prefers the WiFi connection over existing GPRS/EDGE connection, except Windows Live Sync/Messenger: Both of them constantly ignore the WLAN and instead open a GPRS/EDGE connection...
How do I force it (or, if easier, the whole OS) to only use GPRS then when no Wifi is available?
Thanks,
Marco
I achieved this by making everything use Work Network.....it uses GPRS when no WiFi is available only.
On the subject (not wishing to hijack the thread though) I have a similar issue. All apps work fine through wireless, however Windows Live (Messenger etc) launches and connects to GPRS/HSDPA/EDGE when a wifi connection is not present, but then errors with a "no connection" message. All other apps work fine in GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA mode but this...ideas?
Doesn't work
When I say in the Connections control panel that all apps should use something other than E-Plus Web (either My ISP or My Work Network), then MSN whines about connectivity problem.
When I leave it at work network and disconnect wifi, I get system error with all internet using apps - it "can't connect with the current settings".
So, I have to leave the "connect to the internet using..." to Eplus Web... then, all apps, including Pocket IE use WLAN if available, but only MSN still connects GPRS :/
Any idea? Why does f***ing MSN not offer what connection to choose, if it can't obey the system settings?
Marco

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