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Will you please give your experience with win 6.5 build 11.
My experience:
Positives: Very cool: More storage
Negatives: Frequent crashes especially upon installation of new programs. Like I installed new version of spb keyboard, it crashed altogether and I had to hard reset.
It is more slower than 6.1.
i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol
ryanstephney said:
i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol
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Thanks for your reply!
Yes I am also of the same opinion. How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.
well, for me, it works great, except it doesnt have windows live and onenote mobile, i had to download it (except onenote cos i dont need it) on my own... speed is okay, not as fast as wm6.1, startup is slow, the new lock screen, honeycomb and titanium is cool, but the panel for email and text is EXTREMLY BUGGY (they show a X sign and nothing else), album and touchflo 2d seems to respond faster, theres a few bugs but they dont really show up much, the new touch engine (or watever the thing is called for the touch scrolling) is great, but theres touchflo scrolling which makes it really annoying (btw, is there any way to remove the scrolling? i changed the registry but its still there)... but for me, its okay for everyday use...
P.S according to the ORIGINAL POST ON PDAVIET, its based on the iolite rom(i think) and i DONT recommend you guys to upgrade to v12 but wait for v13, so in the meantime, use the v11 rom...
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Thanks for your reply!
How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.
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i too am trying to find a way... too bad theres no solution yet to change to original spl...
guys, when you say go back to the original rom, do you mean the version with 6.1? all you have to do is flash your viva again but using the
HTC OPAL ROM 6.1 V05 - Build 21014.1.6.0 version you can find in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494083
That rom is from PhamQuang too
its quite good enough,.. but sending message always notify me delivery report, and get load.... , i cant unchecked the box..
MOD! please move to Vogue Upgrading Forum!
I just installed 6.5, but I think I am going back to 6.1
CONS
MD2 is far superior in every way, especially when it comes to email, you can view headers and check multiple accounts quickly, it is much nicer too.
I hate the fact that I cant quickly access my recently used programs.
PROS
it feels a bit faster
Bottom Line
I really think that 6.5 is no big deal, just a bit of eye candy, its funny how microsoft paid big bucks for fashion designers to design some themes instead of investing a couple of thousand dollars for a decent UI expert, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
it is a shame that everybody is going along with it, as if this is the next big thing, it is really a very small baby step. MD2 not to speak of MD3 are far superior in every way.
Have I missed something? What do you guys think?
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Really? I am gonna try this. Last time I tried 6.5, I did not see M2D
just try nfsfans v8 6.5 rom, if that isnt a good enough reason for you to keep 6.5, then you need to switch to a crackberry
yup... under the today options...uncheck the default and check touchflo...
I didnt like the 6.5 gui either and went straight back to m2d in the options. Just updated to v8 for 6.5 a few moments ago and the options are there... I believe nfsfan had it in is roms for the last few versions...
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Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
I loved his ROM , it's best of both world, but i mainly use M2D , and also SPB Shell 3 , switch it back and forth.
I switched back to 6.1 simply because I hated 6.5's UI on the Today screen.
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
I was using v6 r2 for almost two weeks and it was rock solid...then i switched over to v8 just the other day and again.... rock solid. If you find it "buggy" in his release you should make note of it so he can work on it and try and resolve those issues...
Personally it feels like m2d w6.1 but faster and more stable. Launching Garmin would take some time before hand, and now with 6.5, is 10x faster...
i dont particularly like the large icon start menu. is there anyway to change it to a smaller view of the icons?
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
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see the screen shot please
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see the screen shot please
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that never happen to me i ahve the sprint touch works prefectly
what the.. with the purple thing lol
mine looks awesomee *_*
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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same thing here... its a problem with some of the themes.. not 6.5
and there is a way to get smaller icons. just seach the forums. its there somwhere in a 6.5 guide
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I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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What versions are you using?
Slingplayer mobile currently has these version that were just released
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Pocket PC 1.6.0.114 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6.0.62 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Palm OS 1.00.22 (US)
* Windows Mobile Downloads (UK)
As for an application not working correctly with a pre-release version of WinMO, thats hardly the Chefs fault as the Application might not have a version to even look at yet let alone develop for
What versions of WinMO 6.5 have you tried - different Chefs utilize different kitchens and different items and tweaks as well so without trying all of them you really dont know if one wouldnt work or all wouldnt
Up to you if you want the time to spend with it I dont use it as if I want to watch television, I watch it, if Im out and cant watch some show or event, well thats what bittorrent or hulu is for LOL
Detroit Doug
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have to agree here - thats an incompatible version of some theme on that ROM
Have seen it a few times myself, not the ROM thats for sure as it didnt occur when you first flashed and used the device, just after something was installed
Detroit Doug
This question has been bothering me for a while now as there is nothing wrong with my current build rom with 6.1. I have been wondering if it is worth upgrading to 6.5 (apart from testing/ hassle of reinstalling all my applications).
Apart from the UI change are there any other noticable differences worth the upgrade? Would you say the 6.5 brings new life to the device (because of the UI) or are there other changes such as the way it manages the battery, gps etc.
I hear there is a small performance hit but that is understandable to power all the new ui but apart from that the new cooked up roms are pretty much there in terms of a near perfect rom.
The only things I noticed and found useful are better finger-scrolling (however, I can't select or drag&drop icons in Total commander when scrollbar is visible) and larger menus. No big changes, still "just Windows mobile".
Just like with any software upgrade, generally it's worth it - you get new features and bugfixes, etc... Likewise, the downside is higher resource utilization and new bugs What's of more value in your universe?
The answer is... 47.
You'll have to try it and then you'll find an answer that you may like better.
No!
The answer is 42!!!
Know the facts...
i think i know exactly what you mean, oh well i will have a look tonight at the 6.5 roms and see what has been cooked up. Who knows i may like it.
Does the touchflo work on 6.5 or does it use the default windows system?
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i think i know exactly what you mean, oh well i will have a look tonight at the 6.5 roms and see what has been cooked up. Who knows i may like it.
Does the touchflo work on 6.5 or does it use the default windows system?
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I think that Duttys 6.5 ROM includes TF3D 2.5 - the latest - but don't quote me.
TF3D (ver 2.0 and 2.1) works with WM 6.5. if you don't want/like TF3D, there are several cooked ROMs that exclude TF3D.
Definately flash this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524032, i did a couple of months ago and been updating regularly, the speed difference is awesome.
I have had major issues with battery life since I upgraded to the new SPL and WM 6.5.
I have noticed no less than a 40% decrease in battery life standby and talk time.
I have tried to go back to wm6.1 but still have the same issue so maybe its something to do with the SPL level?
Is there an easy way to go back to the original factory load? (warranty load)
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i think the 6.5 interface is awful, with icons spread all over the place. Not clean at all. i think its a step backwards. dutty 3.9 is my fav rom
I tried it out last night for a few hours and i have to say with the HTC touch flo and other things there is not much difference really to make me want to stick with 6.5. Ok there is a new menu system and the windows have a little ui improvement. Other than that its all the same + with the new bugs that xda devs are dealing with.
I am too going to stick with 6.1 as its been out longer and more bugs have been ironed out.
If it had some worth while features apart from ui i would give it a longer try and post bugs to chefs etc but its hard to test and continue using my phone, especially when i use constantly for call, txt, email,web and gps. It takes ages to reinstall all my apps and apply config.
i say it is worth it....... i hav the energyrom which in my own opinion is the best...... energyrom 6.5 with titunium
The only interest would be to access the "settings" menu in 2 clicks.
But I hate titanium and their ugly honeycomb menus.
I stay on Manila.
So for me : no interest.
i tried it and got a little confused with the menus as i did not know where anything was, the new menu system is also finger friendly but a sure waste of space.
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i think the 6.5 interface is awful, with icons spread all over the place. Not clean at all. i think its a step backwards. dutty 3.9 is my fav rom
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I agree, step backward's,like it's been changed,just for changes sake.
But you can organize them, using reSTART or do it manually
Ok then,an organized bunch of icon's all over the place.
6.5 seems to me,to be trying to appeal to both finger and stylus camp's,and doing neither particularly well.......TF3D on 6.1 is far better compromise for finger and stylus imo.
I use WM because I like the vastly larger amount of info that can be viewed and used on screen that stylus use afford's,bloating the size of menu's for finger use like in the app drop down menu's so that I have to scroll to find what I want and move twice as far up the screen because of the oversized space's,is not what I want....thus backward's step for me.
There's also a CAB makes the menu smaller too.
No doubt,probably will be one to give back the list start menu also.......question is "is WM6.5 worth the upgrade"
If they had gone back to pre WM5 volatile storage,and sped it up 50% it would for me,as it stand's,it's just the same 6.1/6/5 OS with a few more changes
Is there a way to change the start menu in wm6.5 back to 6.1 style? I like the scrolling and a few little effects but apart from the ui i do not see it worthwhile.
Its good to have something new and playwith but from the roms being released, the bugs still need to be ironed out.
I've had my TD2 for a few months now and notice that I can get the 6.5 updgrade from the HTS site but is it worth upgarading ? I'm happy with my phone as is - but find some of the sub menus tricky due to small icons etc.
Secondly whilst I've installed a few apps I'm wondering how easy and safe is it and will I lose all my apps. I use spb back up so will that allow me to re-install everything in 6.5?
Sorry for so many questions but dont want to brick my phone I'm no techie and just need some advice
Cheers guys
Well, let me put it this way.
I went from official 6.1, to official 6.5, then flashed a couple of cooked 6.5 roms and now im back to official 6.1 again.
And about your backup I have no clue sorry.
What apps are you referring to?
Some may be back'ed up, others cant.
As for the WM6.5 I think that it's way better than 6.1
Where can i get the official 6.1 rom?
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What apps are you referring to?
Some may be back'ed up, others cant.
As for the WM6.5 I think that it's way better than 6.1
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I have a number of spb apps weather, wireless monitor, wallet, sprite backup ,quads(sorry not spb as stated does that make a difference?) and terminator,pocket informant, resco file explorer, divx player, td2 tools and a few games most I think stored on memory card
drax0r - Can I ask why you switched back?
If you still have the files, you can just transfer them to you computer, and later to your phone. I like wm6.5 on my TD2, but switched from 6.5 back to 6.1 on my ipaq, as the screen wasn't sensitive enough for the gestures, and 6.1 was finger friendly enough on a 4 inch screen
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Well, let me put it this way.
I went from official 6.1, to official 6.5, then flashed a couple of cooked 6.5 roms and now im back to official 6.1 again.
And about your backup I have no clue sorry.
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So, how do you revert your TD2 back to 6.1?
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Well, let me put it this way.
I went from official 6.1, to official 6.5, then flashed a couple of cooked 6.5 roms and now im back to official 6.1 again.
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Me too.
Too much battery drain, RAM running 80% or more, phone feels more sluggish.. WM6.1 feels much much faster than WM6.5. Plus there are some bugs like battery info not working.
reefman said:
I have a number of spb apps weather, wireless monitor, wallet, sprite backup ,quads(sorry not spb as stated does that make a difference?) and terminator,pocket informant, resco file explorer, divx player, td2 tools and a few games most I think stored on memory card
drax0r - Can I ask why you switched back?
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Reasons why I switched back are answered above.
6.5 drains so much more battery, I have to charge every night.
Phone feels more sluggish, and there are so many bugs in 6.5 right now.
Im happy with 6.1. I bet most users would be too.
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So, how do you revert your TD2 back to 6.1?
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Just download the official rom from the htc page and flash it.
i have upgraded to wm 6.5 and my diamond 2 runs better than with 6.1. battery consuming works better with 6.5
thanks guys think I'll leave well alone especially after reading other thread and no one has come on saying that WM6.5 is worth the issues it creates for X, Y or Z
Hi
Searched the forum with no luck.
Could anyone please tell me the advantages & disadvantages of WM6.5.5 and is there a ROM out there that is very close to stock with this version of windows mobile.
Thanks
You must feel the difference yourself.
While many people don´t like the combination of Sense and WinMo buttons at the bottom of the screen, some seem to prefer it.
It lies within the nature of the change that it is impossible to have a 6.5.x ROM which would be close to any existing stock ROM.
other than the menu bar at the bottom there isn't a huge amount off difference.
I certainly wouldn't use it as a basis to decide for o against which rom I use.
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other than the menu bar at the bottom there isn't a huge amount off difference.
I certainly wouldn't use it as a basis to decide for o against which rom I use.
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I don't know. The ugliness factor is a big part of it for me. The esthetic of Sense UI is ruined by those "additions" in later builds of WM, in my view. I hope that WM 6.6 will allow us to remove them. If not, I'll stay with the current build and be fine with it.
The new buttons, etc. thin the lipstick on the pig considerably, and it is enough to make me decide not to use it. To each his own, I guess.
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I don't know. The ugliness factor is a big part of it for me. The esthetic of Sense UI is ruined by those "additions" in later builds of WM, in my view. I hope that WM 6.6 will allow us to remove them. If not, I'll stay with the current build and be fine with it.
The new buttons, etc. thin the lipstick on the pig considerably, and it is enough to make me decide not to use it. To each his own, I guess.
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Yea it also looks pretty ugly to me thats why I asked if theres any advantages that would be worth the compromise.
you can skin those buttons to be smaller do they don't interfere anymore, can make all the difference.
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I don't know. The ugliness factor is a big part of it for me. The esthetic of Sense UI is ruined by those "additions" in later builds of WM, in my view. I hope that WM 6.6 will allow us to remove them. If not, I'll stay with the current build and be fine with it.
The new buttons, etc. thin the lipstick on the pig considerably, and it is enough to make me decide not to use it. To each his own, I guess.
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thinking the same thing Mate... what more, the more I read about wm7, the less I'm excited about it. I'll stick to official 1.66 unless htc will decide to give us a new build, but imho winmo 6.5 does the job pretty damn well, so if it's anything above it like 6.5.3, I'll more likely skip it.
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I don't know. The ugliness factor is a big part of it for me. The esthetic of Sense UI is ruined by those "additions" in later builds of WM, in my view. I hope that WM 6.6 will allow us to remove them. If not, I'll stay with the current build and be fine with it.
The new buttons, etc. thin the lipstick on the pig considerably, and it is enough to make me decide not to use it. To each his own, I guess.
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I hate the new style ... Will keep my 6.5 ...
I quite like the buttons at the bottom.
When I started using my fingers to control it more than a stylus I felt having to go to the top of the screen to close/ok stuff didn't make sense. I was used to this style from previous winmo phones though.
When I used a 6.5.5 rom it made one handed use MUCH easier. I don't mind the look tbh and fits well with the navigation with sense. I have MaxManilla or something which is quite a busy front screen so I can see minimalists not liking it.
But how about stability, speed, power consumption?
That's the facts that I'm intrested in! if the button's a bit bigger or smaller... I want my internet connection to be established asap when I need it, but habe a long battery life. and that my phone works without any softreset every half a day!
Did anyone check those facts? give us a hint?
i personally hate that bar at the bottom on WM 6.5.x (with the start button, action and menu)
Im currently using WM 6.5 adn like the simple THIN bar with "phone and menu"
This is the only reason i havent flashed any custom roms...Unless i AM able to change them back to the old looking bottom bar?
Does anyone know if its possible?
Bakedbread said:
i personally hate that bar at the bottom on WM 6.5.x (with the start button, action and menu)
Im currently using WM 6.5 adn like the simple THIN bar with "phone and menu"
This is the only reason i havent flashed any custom roms...Unless i AM able to change them back to the old looking bottom bar?
Does anyone know if its possible?
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Look for dutty's HG ROMS on htcpedia.com He has a 6.5 and a 6.5.5 of his rom and they are very close to stock.
After switching to 6.5.x I wouldn't go back.
At the moment I'm using Miri's Standard version from over on htcpedia.com.
If you're really looking for some eye candy, check out energy roms! both 23xxx and 21xxx com.
But I haven't had the time yet to compare both in speed and stability. Does anybody have some experience in BOTH of the COMs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
speed feels the same. But the most irritatiting thing is the thin top bar! it looks like ****!
Also the animations on 6.5.x is also inferior.
Im using 6.5.5 from DsE Black Edition ROM v7 for about 2 weeks now. Its a stable ROM and really fast.
I never had any problem with the 3g connection, neither under 6.5 nor now on 6.5.5. It always connects when i want it to.
Take a look at the screenshot of my homescreen. It has the starmenu button and the close/ok button disabled (HD2 has hardware keys for it). Looks pretty sleek, doesnt it?
I really like the newer builds...everything looks better. Just check out the windows mobile system settings. Nice checkboxes and scrollbars, better looking message boxes and so on.
I'm also using cleanex DsE Black Edition. This has the 6.5.x buttons mapped to the hardware ones below so you don't use up the screen with duplicates.
Also this rom is super fast and stable
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Im using 6.5.5 from DsE Black Edition ROM v7 for about 2 weeks now. Its a stable ROM and really fast.
I never had any problem with the 3g connection, neither under 6.5 nor now on 6.5.5. It always connects when i want it to.
Take a look at the screenshot of my homescreen. It has the starmenu button and the close/ok button disabled (HD2 has hardware keys for it). Looks pretty sleek, doesnt it?
I really like the newer builds...everything looks better. Just check out the windows mobile system settings. Nice checkboxes and scrollbars, better looking message boxes and so on.
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how did you disable the start menu/ok buttons? im in the process of downloading cleanex core 655 but the biggest issue for me is the start menu at the bottom, as it gets in the way of sense UI
6.5.5 has been a quality jump for me, the standard applications/dialogue are heaps easier to use, buttons are finger friendly (while 6.5 buttons are strictly stilus-friendly).
The only downside, which I'm not sure is because of 6.5.5 (what's sure is that after several 6.5 roms, this problem appears only with the first 6.5.5 rom I flashed) is that WM seems to be very happily closing applications in background even if there's heaps of free ram, just like the virtual memory becomes scarce very soon. And I not only mean ACR, but also mortplayer playing music in background while I have tomtom showing the way and navicomputer recording the track data. With just those three applications running I have at least 210MB pohysical ram free, and yet I get autoclosing.