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In the past, I've been using settings that works, but not a way that locks the GPS position in the fastest way, until now.
This setting allows all your applications, no matter how many they are to simulteneously use the GPS, and I get complete position lock in under 20 seconds for virtually every applications, INDOOR (near a window of course). The satelite symbols appear instantly, while the 3D fix time depends on application, ranges from 5 seconds to 20 is my impression.
I don't want to take credit for this, as I got it from here:
http://www.x7501.com/forum/X7501-GPS-Issues-1184315093.html
Basically, go to start>setting>external GPS, then set the program port to com 8, harware port to com 4, and manage it automatically. Then on all your applications, set the com port to 8.
That's it.
I was literally shocked at the speed. You can almost all it a instant locking of GPS position in all applications.
I have TOM TOM, iGO, Mobile Golf Scorer, GoogleMaps all almost instantly (in relative sense) acquiring 3D positions with the above setting.
EDIT: Please see post #51 on other combinations of settings that would also work wonders. Most of the time you should get 3D fixed in about 6 seconds. Or may be 10 seconds.

Doesn't seem any quicker for me I'm afraid.. About 4 mins from a cold boot.

Great !!!
This is the best my GPS has worker. Frist time ever in the house. One more
tip the baud rate set at 38400.
Thank you

the way i setup is:quick gps>gps tool>google maps...i usually get a lock in under 2 mins.

How do I set the com port to 8 in tomtom navigator?
I can't find it in the tomtom settings.
Bart

To set that in Tom Tom, go to main menu/preference/show gps status/configure. Then choose Other NMEA GPS receiver, set the baud rate to 38400 as mentioned above, and finally choose com 8.

shortyboy said:
the way i setup is:quick gps>gps tool>google maps...i usually get a lock in under 2 mins.
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My QuickGPS doesn't have that option??

eaglesteve said:
In the past, I've been using settings that works, but not a way that locks the GPS position in the fastest way, until now.
This setting allows all your applications, no matter how many they are to simulteneously use the GPS, and I get complete position lock in under 20 seconds for virtually every applications, INDOOR (near a window of course). The satelite symbols appear instantly, while the 3D fix time depends on application, ranges from 5 seconds to 20 is my impression.
I don't want to take credit for this, as I got it from here:
http://www.x7501.com/forum/X7501-GPS-Issues-1184315093.html
Basically, go to start>setting>external GPS, then set the program port to com 8, harware port to com 4, and manage it automatically. Then on all your applications, set the com port to 8.
That's it.
I was literally shocked at the speed. You can almost all it a instant locking of GPS position in all applications.
I have TOM TOM, iGO, Mobile Golf Scorer, GoogleMaps all almost instantly (in relative sense) acquiring 3D positions with the above setting.
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Confirming miraculous results using Telenav. 10 second fix vs. the usual 3-4 minutes... and from building interior! BRAVO!
ADDED: GoogleMaps -- ditto!

wgary said:
Confirming miraculous results using Telenav. 10 second fix vs. the usual 3-4 minutes... and from building interior! BRAVO!
ADDED: GoogleMaps -- ditto!
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When I use iGO, upon the second orange LED light blinking, I got the 3D fix and my main menu turns green!!! And that is INDOOR. That is INSTANT!
My GoogleMap manage to get 8 active satellites indoor!
Shocking, miraculous!!

holy! steve, that was one heck of a tip you got there! thanks a lot for this! previously i could get a lock (using tomtom here in melbourne) in around a minute or 2. but now, it's as if my gps was running the whole time. no cold starting at all!
cheers

Robson said:
holy! steve, that was one heck of a tip you got there! thanks a lot for this! previously i could get a lock (using tomtom here in melbourne) in around a minute or 2. but now, it's as if my gps was running the whole time. no cold starting at all!
cheers
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eaglesteve = my hero for today! I agree, it's almost as if it were always on.

Digital.Diablo said:
Doesn't seem any quicker for me I'm afraid.. About 4 mins from a cold boot.
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Check your setting to see that you follow exactly. What application are you running that takes 4 minutes?

com8 wont appear in my tomtom settings,but will wait for a gps signal if i set it to com5.
Google maps just says initialising gps but never does.
wots up wid dat?

Smartstradamus said:
com8 wont appear in my tomtom settings,but will wait for a gps signal if i set it to com5.
Google maps just says initialising gps but never does.
wots up wid dat?
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Did you go to start/setting/external GPS and set the software port to com 8 and hardware port to com 4 and let it manage automatically? Set baud rate to 38400.
In my Tom Tom, com8 appears as the first option, make sure you choose Other NMEA GPS device.
In googlemap, did you choose manualy setting it to com 8 before using GPS?

eaglesteve said:
Did you go to start/setting/external GPS and set the software port to com 8 and hardware port to com 4 and let it manage automatically? Set baud rate to 38400.
In my Tom Tom, com8 appears as the first option, make sure you choose Other NMEA GPS device.
In googlemap, did you choose manualy setting it to com 8 before using GPS?
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yep! everything is setup correct but no com8 appears in tomtom,I get ril on com6,7,5 and some others.
Google is also set manually,i even gave it a soft reset after it didnt work the first time.
but no joy!

Smartstradamus said:
yep! everything is setup correct but no com8 appears in tomtom,I get ril on com6,7,5 and some others.
Google is also set manually,i even gave it a soft reset after it didnt work the first time.
but no joy!
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That's strange. What ROM and radio are you using? What's your device?

eaglesteve said:
That's strange. What ROM and radio are you using? What's your device?
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t-mob ameo official wm6,radio 1.50

Smartstradamus said:
t-mob ameo official wm6,radio 1.50
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So what setting works the best in your case and how quickly do you get fixed? Does anyone with the same ROM manage to make the settings mentioned in this thread work ?
I wonder if your unit will work differently with a different ROM.

Robson, Nutty Buddy, and Wgary,
What is you ROM, radio and device? I wonder why it works so well in our case but not so in the other two cases so far.

eaglesteve said:
Robson, Nutty Buddy, and Wgary,
What is you ROM, radio and device? I wonder why it works so well in our case but not so in the other two cases so far.
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i'm using the aku3 rom with a 1.50 radio. i wonder if the tomtom version he's using has any bearing on the com ports. for me, after configuring to nmea and setting the baud rate, the first option is immediately com port 8. this is how it shows on my screen:
gps is connected to:
com8
ril on com6:
infared port
com7:
com5:
infared port
and believe me it now locks on to satellites much, much faster. when clicking on preferences and i check the gps status, by the time the screen loads i already have like 6 satellites locked on. and then after a few seconds 3 bars switch to blue which means the gps signal is already good. and then after a few seconds the fourth bar turns blue as well. as i've said, this is the fastest setting i've seen on my unit. wish i had this when i was using powermap in thailand.....though i'm not sure if the com port settings would be same. man, that program was funky =)
cheers

how do you guys use gps?

hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!

You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS

Make sure you've got it set to use com9

no luck
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Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!

Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.

still no luck.
crankshaft said:
Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!

what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111

that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?

crankshaft said:
that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'

for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?

it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!

Tomtom dropping GPS

Using TomTom v7.450 (build 9028) the device can work fine for hours, but sometimes I start Tomtom and it will find a GPS signal and then immediately drop it again.
When I look at the satellite information, it will do this...
1. No GPS device!
2. Poor signal, are you indoors?
3. Built-in GPS receiver
4. No GPS device!
5. Poor signal, are you indoors?
6. Built-in GPS receiver
7. No GPS device!
and repeat..
You can view a video showing this effect
@ youtube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkPmhbst0o
@ http/avi: http://phat.nooblet.org/htc.touch.hd_tomtom.gps.avi

Hi, I've the same problem on my Blackstone, GPS works well for days bu from today the GPS signal result discontinuous with any navigation software like Tomtom(various versions), Trackypro and iGO8...any idea? Thanks

I had the similar problem when I first installed TomTom. Which settings are you using? Because I used "built-in GPS" for TomTom and had the above problem. When I changed it to "Other NMEA GPS" with baud rate at 11200 ()or whatever the max is + COM4 then gps started working like a charm. Since then no signal drops, no lag and very quick fix. Not sure if it is just by chance or is it a real fix for the above problem, but worth trying as its working for me. However, it has been 2 days only. Not sure if after a while I will have this problem or not. I am using Tom Tom 7.910 with maps 6.75.

Can You try to set the hardware port from <None> to COM9? Seems work better, the GPS signal still present...but for now I'm at home

I have more or less the same problem !
Using TomTom v7.450 (build 9028) the device works fine the 1st week, but now, I start Tomtom it xan't find GPS device !
I tried to reinstall all without success...
I also tried all the COM available !

using tomtom 7 with NMEA com 4 max baud rate. Works just fine. 8 or 9 sats locked on constantly in open areas

I'm having the same problem, although I don't have TomTom 7. But it doesn't seem to be just TomTom that's having trouble finding the GPS (and when it does, it'll never get a fix).
The Google Maps application also gives me the "No GPS found" attitude.
I've installed the HTC GPS Tool, which does seem to find a bunch of satellites, but they all stay no-fix-reddish.
Are there any guidelines on how to setup the GPS on this thing? I find it a bit strange that my settings menu only lists an option "External GPS", and no "Internal/Built-In GPS".

Can confirm that the dropping of GPS is in other applications.
I use zürich map from Lonely Planet (sure its form 2003) and it will drop the signal in the open.
Have a feeling its internal on our devices.

One possibility is A-GPS.
It is Disabled by default, but it is possible that with tools like HD Tweak or Advanced Config Tool, you, even by being unaware of it, you activated (or better : enabled) it.
To me, it was a winner : after re-disabling A-GPS, my GPS started to be stable again, no matter what port I choosed and how I configured the Navigator program.
Give it a try, could be the solution that works for you

Hi there,
I've just picked up my lovely HTC Touch HD - I'd like to buy the TomTom 7 and the correct maps to go with it to allow it to work.
Can someone please tell me where I can go to stick my Visa card details into and buy please! i'm pretty confused on the TT website and on here there's allsorts of version numbers etc mentioned!
I'd just like to have a stable running TT on my Touch!
Any chance of also having the US & Canada maps working as well as the UK maps ?
Thanks !
Dennis! West London UK!

This is not a TomTom issue. I have same problem with IGo and VisualGPSce.
I use to resolve this issue this way (in IGo or VisualGPS) : I change the baudrate in GPS configuration. Switching 19200 to 38400, or reverse, or whatever : the GPS locks and is stable after few baudrate switches.

Theres some reports that the default "sleep" timeout for GPS is 1 second. Apparently the Microsoft Intermediate Driver only updates every 1 second so it could just miss it and go to sleep!
Try changing registry entry to 2000 (milliseconds)...
HKLM->system->currentcontrolset->GPSIntermediate Driver->Drivers-> SleepOnNoData

Tirinoarim said:
Theres some reports that the default "sleep" timeout for GPS is 1 second. Apparently the Microsoft Intermediate Driver only updates every 1 second so it could just miss it and go to sleep!
Try changing registry entry to 2000 (milliseconds)...
HKLM->system->currentcontrolset->GPSIntermediate Driver->Drivers-> SleepOnNoData
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Already did it (currently set to 2500). But changes nothing (even after soft reset) : GPS keeps deconnecting/reconnecting as described (not every time; one in a while..).
Thanks anyways !

Just out of interest, do you have MobileJustice installed by any chance?

Absolutly not. Nor any software of this type, nor any software who can possibly take GPS in background..

I had the problem of TomTom getting satelites and then dropping them and saying it couldn't find the gps.
Disabling agps (quick gps) via advance config seemed to sort out the problem

AGPS is *not* quickGPS in my understanding. But this is unclear. For a proof, AGPS comes disabled by default, but quickGPS works out of the box. Can someone who knows for sure, precisely state if AGS and quickGPS are the same thing or not ?
I have disabled AGPS also with HD tweak (but quickGPS stills work..), and I have regulary (2 out of 3 times) this problem.

I had the same problem. Disabling the AGPS seems to have worked but I will wait for the data to expire before confirming.
The problem seems to be when I have poor GPS reception AND poor GSM. They seem to be calling upon each other for corrections but never resolve.
If this is the solution I will just rely on QuickGPS alone which has worked fine for years with TTN6.
Edit: I can now confirm disabling AGPS solved my problem.

had TTN7 running for a few days now.
Can't find the built in GPS. Having to set it to other Bluetooth GPS Receiver.
A bit hit and miss with signal / getting a fix.
I have turned off AGPS as well. Going to try out some of the settings you all have put up tomorrow.

AlexEv said:
had TTN7 running for a few days now.
Can't find the built in GPS. Having to set it to other Bluetooth GPS Receiver.
A bit hit and miss with signal / getting a fix.
I have turned off AGPS as well. Going to try out some of the settings you all have put up tomorrow.
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Working great ...
AGPS off - Using COM 4

Optimal GPS settings for faster GPS lock on HD2? (Also using GarminXT)

Hi all,
I didnt want to start a new thread, but after searching the forums and google for a long time, i decided to bring it up
So ive had my HD2 for about 2 days now, and I recently installed GarminXT (I used to have it on my Nokia N82)
the problem i'm finding is that the GPS doesnt lock as fast as i thought it would be..
GarminXT has not been locking on (little over 5 minutes now)
I'm a noob to Windows Mobile and HTC so please bear with me!
1. How do i know A-GPS is working? Is it automatically enabled? (This wasnt the case for Nokia as you could manually turn off A-GPS and use strictly GPS signal). Under Location settings i have "Location Service Settings" = ON
and HTC Location Service = ON
2. Im still not 100% sure what QuickGPS does. I've read about it , but all i concluded was that it uses your data to get a faster GPS lock.
So i tried running QuickGPS and it updates no problem.
I open GarminXT and it doesnt lock on. Do i need to use this?
3. Can someone tell me if these are the optimal GPS settings? I kept searching around the forum but cant find one specific to the HD2.
So under "All Settings" > System > External GPS
Programs Tab > GPS Program Port = COM4
Hardware Tab > GPS Hardware Port = None > Baud rate = 4800
Access Tab > Managa GPS Auto = Checked
Are these settings correct? Or are there "tweaks" to it that I can change?
4. One last question:
Under GarminXT, i have the ability to choose 3 GPS options:
"Use Bluetooth GPS"
"Use GPS Intermediate Driver" = Checked
"Use Serial GPS" > Once selected, i get 4 other options to choose:
COM1: Bluetooth Serial Port
COM2: Bluetooth Serial Port
COM4: COM4:
COM9: 7500 COM port
Does anyone know if i should be checked on "Use GPS Intermediate Driver" or if i should be checking off "Serial GPS" > COM 4?
This is my first WinMo device with a data plan (I'm on EDGE speeds cause I'm in Canada), but I always had the impression AGPS would really help the lock times.
Anyone with help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Again, loving the new HD2
Thanks

For GarminXT, use intermediate driver.
For Google maps, use Com4, 4800 rate, that enables use of the compass.
Quick GPS should increase startup, and so far I had all fixes on HD2 under 30 seconds, and I did not change anything.
Normally GPS would download information about orbits of satellites from the satellites. That can take time, as it is one way communication and GPS can't ask satellite to send data again in case of error, it must wait untill the satellite starts sending them again by itself.
It is much faster to get that data via network .. and that is exactly what QuickGPS is for. Problem is that at least on my previous X1 there were many problems with it. The data from network was sometimes completely wrong, and you had to delete the file manually. That information is in temp\xtra.bin. Try to delete it and try again. QuickGPS does not test existence of the file, it will download new one in predefined time.
I'm still a bit confused about aGPS. I'm not sure what it is. Some people state it is the same thing as QuickGPS. Some say it is something to get quick basic fix based on BTS. But I haven't seen that in any application, except Google maps, and they seem to use their own technology and data for that.
But AFAIK, those 'location services' is generally Google's 'my location' exposed for other HTC applications.

I set it on max rate, do i do a mistake? I think that this is setting the speed or Im wrong?! Im connecting with sattelites below 15sec, with no other tweaks or quickgps...

^^
what's "max rate"?
btw, thanks for the replies
i'll look into deleting the cache file for QuickGPS and see if it does anything

Quick GPS allows you to download a weeks worth of GPS satellite position data (almanac data) at one time, helpful if for example you don't have a data plan - you can get your A-GPS data in one hit over WiFi. It helps speed lock time.
Not sure what is happening with yours, mine always locks in Garmin within 7-15 seconds, I have Quick GPS set to autoupdate, but otherwise no special tweaks or modifications where GPS is concerned.

Same here - in fact, the HD2's locking faster to GPS than my Touch HD ever did. I'm getting locks in the garage now whereas before I had none with my Touch HD. Haven't touched the default WM GPS settings or the Garmin one at all since I upgraded to the HD2.

GPs lover-Google map hater
Hi guys, firstly thanks for this thread as i too look for answer...and find some only here
i had the Diamond and now the HD2 and share the love.
Garmin maps are much more accurate and have even the smallest unpaved roads which Google map lacks. Google is so basic maps, i simply hate it...sorry Google...not to mention that it cost money to be online all the time
HD2 GPS confuse me. Sorry if I ask u basic staff but could not figure it up myself:
1. using the GPS w/google map, how u set simple setting, as: "north up" or ""track up" Route setting such as "faster time" or any other basic settings that I always had on my Garmin GPS including Garmin mobile XT?
2. What happend to voice navigation wiith google?
3. Reading your info, does it means that I can install Garmin mobile XT I got with Diamond on HD2 ?
4. Anybody know TomTom for HD2 (which I will get shotly from HTC?
I trust someone out here is smarter than me and will come to rescue

hey guys,
my HD2 is fine now, usually i just do a QuickGPS connect before opening Garmin XT and now it connects SUPER fast...usually under 10 seconds
Thanks for all the help!!

Google is not, and does not set out to be a full satellite navigation prpgram, so it doesn't have stuff such as 'North Up', 'Track Up' etc, nor does it have spoken directions.
For these you need a dedicated SatNav program like Garmin, TomTom, CoPilot or iGO8 which are all 'paid-for' applications.
TomTom will run fine but TomTom don't officially support it, meaning you can't download the correct vesion direct from their website. There are easy ways around this though!
With regard to some of the earlier posts- the HD2 can aquire a fix faster than any other device I've used (and I've used a lot!). I find QuickGPS makes very little difference, but as it uses only a small amaount of data I keep it updated.
QuickGPS and A-GPS are not the same thing, though there are quite a few different definitions of A-GPS. Genuine A-GPS is not used in UK, nor as far as I know anywhere else in Europe except by dedicated programs and platforms set up with the infrastructure (such as Apple, who use it to enhance the poor performance of the iPhone's GPS chip). It is used in the Far East, and works by enhancing your accuracy of positioning by using the data channels to send your current cell ID plus any other availble stuff like WiFi hotspot info, which is correlated to a database of locations, and sent back as an approximate position to the phone. Google Maps uses something like this if a GPS signal is not available- the 'Locate Me' feature will show you in a radius of around 1km.
The Baud rate makes no ostensible difference to the lock times or accuracy, as the data stream from the satellites is far lower than even the lowest baud rate. The NMEA default is 4800, and most software is happy to connect at that rate.

The google maps GPS finds me within 80 metres.. that's not accurate right? cause it puts it on wrong street technically.. When I first got it it did 800 metres =/

WOW, that was fast, thank you NeilM.
I will get Tomtom for free from HTC as it is included with Thai purchaded HD2.
Meanwhile I will try to load Garmin XT that I got with My Diamond at the time, let's see if the activation works...
As for Goole, well, I get 60 meter accuracy at the best, that make ones totaly lost in a city and for sure miss a turn, what a pity.
Thanks again for ever so fast reply.

When Google Maps is started it is finding your position throught the carrier's network and that is why it is not acurate at all. There is an option however, named "Use the GPS" in goolge maps and it becomes as acurate as any other navigation software It just have to engage an GPS lock as the others so do not blame google on this one Hence, you are not using the GPS when you get the inacurate positioning For the maps however you still have to be online But if you pay for your Garmin, iGo maps it would be that expensive and you can use it wherever you are ...

You absolutly right. i did use the "use gps" and it's accurate. The thing is that as heavy GPS user the lack of detailed info on google maps, and the inability to set the maps at your convinient (such as "track up" for example) it's nearly a secure way to go crazy while nevigating, specially off road...try to tilt your head to understand your position in real time when you turning and turning. Thanks for the gps tip.

I agree. Curent version of Google Maps is not suitable for navigation while driving indeed! It can help you get orientated sometimes or if you are looking for something big iGo and Garmin are in a whole new league of navigation sofware for now. However, the new version of Google Maps should be at least as good as the others but it is only available for Android at the moment and I dont see it coming to WM any time soon so we will have to stick to iGo, Garmin, TomTom and the others. I'm not using Google Maps for navigation at all by the way so It wouldn't be so difficult for me )

ragelord said:
the new version of Google Maps should be at least as good as the others but it is only available for Android at the moment and I dont see it coming to WM
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It's called google navigation, not google maps - and it seems to kill every GPS program available today (thank god).

hey guys,
on the same topic, but different nav software. i use iGO 8, can someone please tell me what the optimal setting are for port and baud rate? i did the auto-detect and the signal is a little on/off.
also... is there a way to get iGO 8 to use the HD2s compass? i like the stand-alone compass of the HD2, but i think it would be swell to be able to have iGO's compass function working aswell.
sorry if this has been discussed before, if there is another thread i should be reading... please direct me there.
thanks for all your help.
cheers.

conscept said:
The google maps GPS finds me within 80 metres.. that's not accurate right? cause it puts it on wrong street technically.. When I first got it it did 800 metres =/
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Eh, if I'm not wrong, that's agps at work.
It'll find you with the nearest base station. then slowly try to triangulate you. Normally, you'll be in an area with only 1 base station, so there's not much triangulation going on.
When I'm in city, it's pretty accurate. I get my approx distance within a couple of seconds, wait another 10 - 20 secs to get gps fix.

A-Gps and other things
A-GPS is just one thing: Assisted GPS. It is a toggle-- when you toggle it on, in your phone's settings, you will get the locational assistance of the cell towers. That is the towers them selves, two or more towers and your phone triangulate to give an approximation of your location. GPS also uses triangulation (derived from simple trigonometry equations) to determine your location and is much more accurate. In fact it can be ever more accurate as your device locks onto more satellites. I have found that the best thing to do is to turn off A-GPS. I don't know what it is but Googlemaps seems to have a terrible time locking onto satellites on Windows Mobile. But I have found, especially on Android 1.6 and above you get very rapid locks so long as you wipe out the telenav program. I strongly suspect that Google is undermining Windows Mobile in favor of supporting their Android system. They have turn by turn for Android but not for Windows Mobile and it seems like they are also building it not to lock sats nearly as well. You can force it to get moving by pre opening the GPS or other methods just prior to running google maps.
I think everyone should write google and tell them to fully support Windows Mobile (Phone)... T-Mobile is just about set to come out with the HTC HD2 in about a week (March 24th) and I intend to get one. I am not happy that it doesn't have a physical keyboard cloned from the Touch Pro 2, but I expect to like most of the rest of it.
Turning Location on is another thing. You are henceforth allowing all applications to know and your location. this can be helpful but it can also be a potential privacy risk. Of course it's easy to turn off and on. You might want to read the fine print.

Actually, I have a more basic question. Is there a soft "switch" or software application to actually turn the GPS on? On my HD2 I have a few GPS apps and all of them report the GPS being on or "no GPS Device found". Even Goggle maps, if I siwtch to USE GPS mode, keeps endlessly waiting for a GPS signal and then nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks much

Gps htc hd2
In my experience with windows mobiles and internal gps, manage gps automatically is best and no ports should be assigned at all unless using bluetooth gps receiver! Also, sounds crazy too many but no every location on this big earth is withing available to public gps devices gps satelite paths (satelites going around the earth!) Make sure your outside the house or flat before thinking your gps ain't picking up. My hd2 is fast, my old mda3 was too and worked better inside but thats down to i was living in a different location at the time and at an higher altitude i would say. 1 of many other reasons could be that the military could be using the sat at the time which would render it unavail to public (offline)!

HTC HD2 GPS lock problem

Hi everyone new here. I am having some issues with getting my GPS to work properly.
I have noticed that if I use my phone without a sim inside then the GPS locks on pretty quick.
However if I put my T-Mobile sim inside and try getting a lock on the GPS it does not work, it keeps saying locating GPS in digital compass or seeking satellites in google maps. I have tried updating GPS satelite using quick GPS too but that didn't help.
So basically the GPS works when there is no sim inside the phone but doesn't when there is a sim (T-Mobile sim) inside the phone.
Does anyone know what could be the problem and how I can get it to work with the sim inside the phone?
Phone details:
My phone is running on the generic 1.66.405.2, ROM from the HTC website. I also HSPL2ed it as it was on the Tmobile rom. However the phone is still locked to Tmobile UK.
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i got the same problem, it doesnt find a satalite in google maps. but it works very fast when im outside and set the gps manually in google maps. it works with com4 and 256000 rate, but it never works when i let it manage by windows..
its the same problem i had with my old omnia :/ lucky i dont use it that much, but would be nice if i could use it when i really need it.. >.<
never tried it without sim card, and i dont want to try it.. for what should i use the phone without sim card, it would not work for google maps anyway without internet connection

But there is no option to select 256000 as the baudrate.
Also when I change the com port to com4 on the gps hardware setting and press ok to exit and go back into it to check to see if the setting has been saved I find that it reverts back to its original setting of Hardware port= None and Baudrate-4800. Why does it do that?

for me there is an option for that rate Oo in google maps i mean..
but yea, u are right, my options got reverted too :/ i dont know why..

Could you tell what settings do you use in your external GPS?
Also are you able to get a GPS lock in your digital compass, could you check? Thanks.

the external gps settings are:
programm ports: com4
gps hardware port: none, baudrate 4800
and access -> manage gps automatically ON
standard settings, didnt change them
and how to use gps with the digital compass? ^.^ i only know that the compass worked with google maps when i needed it 2 weeks ago xD

Thanks for the settings mate.
Yeah you set a location on google maps and then it locks on to the gps in the digital compass and you get the longitude and latitude displayed in the digital compass.
There is also the appearance of this green light that rotates around the circumference of the compass as you move your phone, wonder what the green light indicates..

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There is also the appearance of this green light that rotates around the circumference of the compass as you move your phone, wonder what the green light indicates..
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the green dot points towards the destination you chose. it's a heading marker.

Ah right cheers for that mate.
Btw I managed to get the GPS working, I think its just the sim reception that makes it the gps signal weaker when I try to lock on to gps satelites.

A simple solution for SEEKING SATELLITES (0) problem - Telstra HTC HD2 Google Maps
After frustrating weeks trying to have my GPS working on Google Maps, I've managed to find the solution for my "SEEKING SATELLITES (0)" problem when using Google Maps on my Telstra HTC HD2.
I've just turned AGPS Service OFF (Start --> Settings -->Location).. bingo.. it now locks to the satellite in a matter of seconds...
I hope this post will help other people who might be experiencing the same frustration I did..
Cheers!!