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how do you guys use gps?

hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!

You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS

Make sure you've got it set to use com9

no luck
crankshaft said:
Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!

Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.

still no luck.
crankshaft said:
Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!

what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111

that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?

crankshaft said:
that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'

for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?

it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!

Tomtom dropping GPS

Using TomTom v7.450 (build 9028) the device can work fine for hours, but sometimes I start Tomtom and it will find a GPS signal and then immediately drop it again.
When I look at the satellite information, it will do this...
1. No GPS device!
2. Poor signal, are you indoors?
3. Built-in GPS receiver
4. No GPS device!
5. Poor signal, are you indoors?
6. Built-in GPS receiver
7. No GPS device!
and repeat..
You can view a video showing this effect
@ youtube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkPmhbst0o
@ http/avi: http://phat.nooblet.org/htc.touch.hd_tomtom.gps.avi

Hi, I've the same problem on my Blackstone, GPS works well for days bu from today the GPS signal result discontinuous with any navigation software like Tomtom(various versions), Trackypro and iGO8...any idea? Thanks

I had the similar problem when I first installed TomTom. Which settings are you using? Because I used "built-in GPS" for TomTom and had the above problem. When I changed it to "Other NMEA GPS" with baud rate at 11200 ()or whatever the max is + COM4 then gps started working like a charm. Since then no signal drops, no lag and very quick fix. Not sure if it is just by chance or is it a real fix for the above problem, but worth trying as its working for me. However, it has been 2 days only. Not sure if after a while I will have this problem or not. I am using Tom Tom 7.910 with maps 6.75.

Can You try to set the hardware port from <None> to COM9? Seems work better, the GPS signal still present...but for now I'm at home

I have more or less the same problem !
Using TomTom v7.450 (build 9028) the device works fine the 1st week, but now, I start Tomtom it xan't find GPS device !
I tried to reinstall all without success...
I also tried all the COM available !

using tomtom 7 with NMEA com 4 max baud rate. Works just fine. 8 or 9 sats locked on constantly in open areas

I'm having the same problem, although I don't have TomTom 7. But it doesn't seem to be just TomTom that's having trouble finding the GPS (and when it does, it'll never get a fix).
The Google Maps application also gives me the "No GPS found" attitude.
I've installed the HTC GPS Tool, which does seem to find a bunch of satellites, but they all stay no-fix-reddish.
Are there any guidelines on how to setup the GPS on this thing? I find it a bit strange that my settings menu only lists an option "External GPS", and no "Internal/Built-In GPS".

Can confirm that the dropping of GPS is in other applications.
I use zürich map from Lonely Planet (sure its form 2003) and it will drop the signal in the open.
Have a feeling its internal on our devices.

One possibility is A-GPS.
It is Disabled by default, but it is possible that with tools like HD Tweak or Advanced Config Tool, you, even by being unaware of it, you activated (or better : enabled) it.
To me, it was a winner : after re-disabling A-GPS, my GPS started to be stable again, no matter what port I choosed and how I configured the Navigator program.
Give it a try, could be the solution that works for you

Hi there,
I've just picked up my lovely HTC Touch HD - I'd like to buy the TomTom 7 and the correct maps to go with it to allow it to work.
Can someone please tell me where I can go to stick my Visa card details into and buy please! i'm pretty confused on the TT website and on here there's allsorts of version numbers etc mentioned!
I'd just like to have a stable running TT on my Touch!
Any chance of also having the US & Canada maps working as well as the UK maps ?
Thanks !
Dennis! West London UK!

This is not a TomTom issue. I have same problem with IGo and VisualGPSce.
I use to resolve this issue this way (in IGo or VisualGPS) : I change the baudrate in GPS configuration. Switching 19200 to 38400, or reverse, or whatever : the GPS locks and is stable after few baudrate switches.

Theres some reports that the default "sleep" timeout for GPS is 1 second. Apparently the Microsoft Intermediate Driver only updates every 1 second so it could just miss it and go to sleep!
Try changing registry entry to 2000 (milliseconds)...
HKLM->system->currentcontrolset->GPSIntermediate Driver->Drivers-> SleepOnNoData

Tirinoarim said:
Theres some reports that the default "sleep" timeout for GPS is 1 second. Apparently the Microsoft Intermediate Driver only updates every 1 second so it could just miss it and go to sleep!
Try changing registry entry to 2000 (milliseconds)...
HKLM->system->currentcontrolset->GPSIntermediate Driver->Drivers-> SleepOnNoData
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Already did it (currently set to 2500). But changes nothing (even after soft reset) : GPS keeps deconnecting/reconnecting as described (not every time; one in a while..).
Thanks anyways !

Just out of interest, do you have MobileJustice installed by any chance?

Absolutly not. Nor any software of this type, nor any software who can possibly take GPS in background..

I had the problem of TomTom getting satelites and then dropping them and saying it couldn't find the gps.
Disabling agps (quick gps) via advance config seemed to sort out the problem

AGPS is *not* quickGPS in my understanding. But this is unclear. For a proof, AGPS comes disabled by default, but quickGPS works out of the box. Can someone who knows for sure, precisely state if AGS and quickGPS are the same thing or not ?
I have disabled AGPS also with HD tweak (but quickGPS stills work..), and I have regulary (2 out of 3 times) this problem.

I had the same problem. Disabling the AGPS seems to have worked but I will wait for the data to expire before confirming.
The problem seems to be when I have poor GPS reception AND poor GSM. They seem to be calling upon each other for corrections but never resolve.
If this is the solution I will just rely on QuickGPS alone which has worked fine for years with TTN6.
Edit: I can now confirm disabling AGPS solved my problem.

had TTN7 running for a few days now.
Can't find the built in GPS. Having to set it to other Bluetooth GPS Receiver.
A bit hit and miss with signal / getting a fix.
I have turned off AGPS as well. Going to try out some of the settings you all have put up tomorrow.

AlexEv said:
had TTN7 running for a few days now.
Can't find the built in GPS. Having to set it to other Bluetooth GPS Receiver.
A bit hit and miss with signal / getting a fix.
I have turned off AGPS as well. Going to try out some of the settings you all have put up tomorrow.
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Working great ...
AGPS off - Using COM 4

Ipaq 61x gps issues

Here you can discuss the GPS on the Ipaq 61x.

Now i have tried setting HW port to COM8 and baud 57600, and the programs one to COM6, and i checked "manage gps automatically" in external GPS settings.
Google maps still cant locate me, even if i stand outside on my porch.

the very first thing you have to know is ipaq 61x internal gps is slow to get siginal in cold and its performance is very bad in indoor, so don't waste your time trying to test indoor, the very least conditon is you place it near window but you would better off test it outdoor in open sky. The first time you use your gps it can take as long as 5 to 10 mintues but later should be much better
In gps viewer, try com 8 and and open gps to see if you can get any message back

I remember that I've used COM6 and baudrate 115200. My GPS runs smoothly.

Looks like my problem was impatience, when i left my device out on the porch for 5 mins the GPS viewer had a signal, IGO was a bit buggy disconnecting and connecting again, but i'll try it out tomorrow with no obstacles around

Abba91 said:
Looks like my problem was impatience, when i left my device out on the porch for 5 mins the GPS viewer had a signal, IGO was a bit buggy disconnecting and connecting again, but i'll try it out tomorrow with no obstacles around
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Hi Guys agains
I have tried many times as you have said above about config. The things is ever never succeed indoor.Outdoor, couple of time found signals but waited like 30 minutes.
Do you have any appl. or what ever in order to increase signal receveing

diendien said:
i remember that i've used com6 and baudrate 115200. My gps runs smoothly.
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u can try this one
HLKM/system/currentcontrolset/gpsintermediate driver/drivers/qualgpshardware
set band 57600

EREZYAD said:
u can try this one
HLKM/system/currentcontrolset/gpsintermediate driver/drivers/qualgpshardware
set band 57600
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Already done that but still no signal

You can try to go into power settings and remove the check that stays: Turn off device after 1 minute, and then leave your device out in the open and let it get a signal.

BERSANZİ said:
Already done that but still no signal
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hr your device
install only this
http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/download-gps-test.html
set on this app : com 6 bund 57600
wait 4 gps signal at a clear sky (minimum of 5 min and not blocked by trees .. )
then report

GPS settings for 1.56

Hi everyone
I have recently updated to 1.56.405.1 ROM which also included Radio update to 1.13.25.24. However, I have noticed that my GPS no longer works on this ROM. in google maps, it shows "Seeking GPS satellites(0)" forever.(Com4 port for internal and none for external devices) I tries changing baud rate to different settings - 9600, 57000 etc, but even if I press "ok" after setting baud rate, somehow, it comes back to its original to 4800. How this happens ???? its really frustrating. My earlier ROM (1.19.xx) used to show GPS position using Googe maps.
Can any1 guide me how to make things work here?? Also, can some1 please post ideal GPS settings?

I know this will not be helpful, but I'm using Miri wm6.5 v9.2 which my gps locks on within 30 secs on TomTom, Memory-Map and Garmin. Google maps locks in quickly. I used the default settings (com 4) and all works fine.

The ideal GPS settings are default settings
Program port: COM4
Hardware port: none
Baud rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically: checked
Any other settings of GPS you should set from GPS application.

Thanks guys...I'll try these and reply you back here. Please do read this thread after a couple of days.

default setting is baudrate:9600 isn't it?

No, read above, please

Can you actually change the baud rate? It reverts back to 4800 when you re-enter the settings, so I can't change it at all.

To,
the person above this post
same here dude !! earlier I could change in 1.19XX rom. but ever since I have flashed to 1.56, i'm facin this problem you've mentioned.
BTW, do you get GPS application working properly or same like mine?? [pls. read 1st post in this thread]
Regards
Ash

If you read up in the internet, you can read everywhere that the default value for the baudrate is 9600, so that the internal GPS receiver is demanded best of all in navigation software.
And you say it would be in 4800 now?

i have the same new stock rom and i have four working gps programs which all also lock to satellites within thirty seconds without ever seeing the settings yet along changing them :S are you guys sure this problem is not self inflected .. i wish i could help but i have no idea how..
the applications i use are route99, garmin, navNgo and another one which i forgot since i dont use that often.

koboltzz said:
If you read up in the internet, you can read everywhere that the default value for the baudrate is 9600, so that the internal GPS receiver is demanded best of all in navigation software.
And you say it would be in 4800 now?
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Not true.... i have done a lot of reading into this on various forums and settings can depend on radio's, roms, devices and software used. Also i am using 1.56 wwe and my default settings are 4800, com4, none hardware port, windows manage and my gps works fine, cold start about 20 secs, warm start up about 5 secs depending on location and weather conditions!
Conclusion, well i dont have one yet, i am trying to compile a list of typical settings device specific but it is fairly obvious that there are a lots various circumstances
For those interested in whys and hows heres some bedtime reading for starters:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375959&page=6
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...WDx9c&boostcse=0&q=gps+settings&start=40&sa=N

What I've noticed on 1.56.401.0 WWE ROM is that GPS fix with Garmin Mobile XT is much faster, but the icon on Garmin "home" screen shows as no signal. I can navigate as before, maybe even better, just this funny thing with signal indicator... Any1 else with this issue?

ash3012 said:
Hi everyone
I have recently updated to 1.56.405.1 ROM which also included Radio update to 1.13.25.24. However, I have noticed that my GPS no longer works on this ROM. in google maps, it shows "Seeking GPS satellites(0)" forever.(Com4 port for internal and none for external devices) I tries changing baud rate to different settings - 9600, 57000 etc, but even if I press "ok" after setting baud rate, somehow, it comes back to its original to 4800. How this happens ???? its really frustrating. My earlier ROM (1.19.xx) used to show GPS position using Googe maps.
Can any1 guide me how to make things work here?? Also, can some1 please post ideal GPS settings?
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Hello ash3012,
I'm having the exact same problem, can u please tell me how did u resolve the issue?
thanks

No GPS sat lock

I've had the imagio for about 2 weeks not. and can't get the GPS to work. I've tried every reg edit I can't find. Tried useing GPSID.dll rather then GPSID_HTC.dll. I tried installing the GPSModDrivers. Ran QuickGPS. Done Hard resets and half a dozen flashes. Nothing. The only program that works in Verizon's VZ Nav. TomTom, Google maps, Bing never get any sat lock. I'd say it was my phone but my dad's and the floor model at our Verizon store all have the same problems. The guy at Verizon said it was an issue with a lot of them and HTC was working on an updated rom for it. But that could be crap. Any ideas?

You probably have a faulty unit - my GPS always locks pretty quickly.

Agreed. My GPS works flawlessly. I use it all the time with TrackMe.

Never had the first problem with the GPS , works great with Google and Bing maps. Yours Dad's phone must be defective , swap it out for a new one.

Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...

Sorry for the double post working from device.

Keep in mind that some of the things you may have installed to correct the issue may have negatively affect registry settings, sync your contacts and do a hard reset on the device. And do not set up VZ nav when you bring it up.
Then do this:
Install Google maps
Make Sure your Location Setting is "on" in the phone settings. If it is on then toggle it to "911" hit okay on upper right corner then go back into it and toggle it back on and hit okay.
Soft Reset and let boat up completely
Open Google Maps And make sure USE GPS is not checked.
Click "X" in top corner to let it run in the background
Run Quick GPS and select "Download"
Open Google Maps again and select "USE GPS" make sure you have a clear view of the sky and it should take less than one minute to lock
Sometimes a soft reset is required to get a gps lock.
Actually, It is a known issue with the particular gpsone chipset. It's an issue with location caching with agps, but this phone comes stock with agps disabled. However, I have not heard that many complaints on this forum, of course not everybody uses gps. If you soft reset before you try and use you shouldn't have issues. Trust me this is my third HTC touch series phone with this issue (diamond, touch pro, imagio). With my imagio it suddenly stopped having this issue, wierd. I used to use a program called HTC gps tool on my touch pro that would clear the cache for you without having to soft reset each time you might want to do some searching, not sure if it works with wvga screens.

bastukee said:
Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
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I concur if it was a hardware issue VZ nav wouldn't work.

Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking

One of my friends had the same problem as you mentioned. I asked him to do a hard reset and after a HR, the GPS has been working smoothly. Please try a HR!
I have no complain about my Imagio's GPS because it works much more than I expected. I can get 7-8 sattelites fixed in house, near the window where my old phone Touch HD could not fix any sattlelite.

I'm about to try bastukee suggestion. Giakhoa are you saying do a hard reset after a hard reset?

bastukee This is what I got, any ideas?
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,*31
$GPGLL,,,,,,A*11
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,50.00,50.00,50.00*35

bastukee said:
Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
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Let me know how this pans out. I haven't used this new version but it will allow you to play around with some setting my gps locks instantly so I'm not going to mess with it I just now it works on vga, you might need a screen rotate app to read all settings.
Original Post where I found it is here

Sweeny, Program works nice. it's an easier way to see the data then the program bastukee gave me. But sadly I don't know what half the options do and it still gives me the same date I posted in #12. Thoughts anyone?

That's exactly what you would get when satelites are not being seen, in fact you can't even see a Clock. Once I finish this 3 day trip to India and settle I will try that program and see how my settings look like and post screenies. "I'm a zombie atm"

Thanks for the help. I'm going crazy trying to get this to work.

While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?

hackthis02 said:
While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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be sure ur using com port 4

There's where I got the data that matched the data bastukee showed me. And the one in the settings.

I might be pointing out the obvious but, did you try this outside? After like a minute?