iFonz 1 Vs iFonz 2 - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Choose you favourite version!

iFonz 2 is King!
Yes, I do not understand people, who like better iFonz 1. Yes, it was very good, but iFonz 2 demonstrated improvement, is faster and more sensitive and also intuitive.
Thank You.

I love the bottom bar and button press animation in iFonz 1, but I like the speed, settings, and ability to have the task bar in iFonz 2. For me, if those features could colliade into one release it would be perfect. Just my opinion. Thanks for all of your work!!

12gage said:
button press animation in iFonz 1, but I like the speed, settings, [...] in iFonz 2. For me, if those features could colliade into one release it would be perfect
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Same for me. Also, i did like ifonz1 continuos pages (as i have already told you). And mostly, the ifonz1 smoothness: speed was low, it's true, but with ifonz1 i never (never) launched an app for mistake, while with ifonz2 i launch a bunch of apps sipmly swiping to change pages.
Also, i'm not sure, but seems the new iFonz is more memory hungry than the 1st: i never happened to see #1 closed by autokill (the f***king thing shuts down apps also when disabled), while ifonz2 is regularly shot down when other apps are running (and i'm on HD, with 64mb free program memory)

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Mostly both. At once. The thing is that the real Iphone menu works and look great for a phone but not for a smartphone. The iphone emulating menus make my phone look good but feel stupid. Kinda like a dumb blonde.
Sorry man but none of them felt like the real thing and if the Iphone feel is the goal here, none is quite "there". The iphone sells because of its looks, not the functionallity. I wish that you kept the idea and changed the icons and designto something of your own. To continue comparing this to the real thing will make you loose. Take away the iphone look and add your own. Put the "functionallity" above the "look" if you get my point. I got/had an idea for a layout the first time I saw your app. I'm an educated designer and would share my idea with you if you want. use the PM for that

I like Ifonz2 better
Ifonz2 is a beautiful piece of software, and the speed is so much better than in ifonz1

Hey this Ifonz2 has come along great... Im sure a few config options will come along, but its excellent now... The thing that is best about this kind of a program, is that you're getting the best of both worlds, the iPhone look and feel, but still get to be on Windows Mobile... and better than the iPhone still between the clock, shortcuts, and notifiers (including the windows titlebar ones) on one screen and still other screens of icons for additional apps... You can't beat it... I like the power of a smartphone and the business OS behind it, but I love the eye candy too...

ifonz 1 for me
Hi, iFonz 1.1.2 is my favorite for me because
1) it's more polished (since iFonz2 is still very much an early in-progress project)
2) It's a simple interface that just works, and that's what I was searching for
3) unlike iFonz 2, it supports square screens without me having to configure anything
I tried iFonz 2 a few times but unfortunately I could never get it to fill in the whole screen of my Samsung Epix (whether I was running RealVGA at 96 or 128dpi).
There are a few bugs (the minimize animation seems to kick in and loop once in a while) in iFonz 1, but until iFonz2 works well with my phone or an alternative interface that runs well on my phone arrives, I'll be sticking with iFonz 1.1.2.
Thanks!

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Point UI - Excellent software for the begginners!!!

Please take a look and check it out for yourself. It's very nice and completed - which means IT WORKS FINE!!!
Check it out and leave the review for the rest of the ppl here...
Great product!!
I've been using it for almost 24 hours now and I'm hooked. It's FAST, stable, and works like WM5/6 should work. My only complaint is that it needs to be a little more customizable (and maybe it is and I just haven't figured it out yet.) I would love to change the color theme. The blues are great and all but I like to keep my WM6/Tilt/TyTn2 theme black/grey.
Trying it out, but dissatisfied with the way it keeps hopping back into my regular interface. Is this just supposed to be a skin, or a total OS wrapper?
It acts like a wrapper in many ways, but when you open apps & whatnot, you get your default .tsk or in my case, the last Wisbar skin applied, which isn't really very useful to me, since it looks nothing like the PointUI skin.
It's a very pretty today replacement, but it still needs work, to be sure. Improving user reconfigurability should be number one on their to-do list.
point ui on imate k jam
I also installed this program.I think WAD and SPB mobile shell are better.i made a you tube video on how it looks on my imate k jam.you can check it out on below link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwbOHW2a-kU

Throttle Vs. SPB Shell Vs. WAD Vs. PointUI

OK So I have tried all of these and I have a few issues with each of them because they are all see to be missing something. I have rated them and I was wondering what you guys take is on them. Here we go.
Throttle:
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 7.5
- Visual Rating - 8.5
- Speed - 7.0
Throttle is cool but as far as space on you device is concerned it can fill it with a lot of short cuts and make it look very cluttered. it can also run slow on different devices and can be hassle for others who like a clean and quick running machine.
WAD:
- Finger Friendly: No
- Overall Rating - 8.0
- Visual Rating - 8.0
- Speed - 6.0
WAD was actually pretty cool. I downloaded it and played around with the Vista skin that was featured in this forum. I did find that WAD was very complicated to get the themes to work and there was not much help on the Lakeridge forums when I had questions and issues with it showing the wrong thing. Also when switching from landscape to portrait was a hassle and took a good long amount of time. Visually it was nice but many areas were hard to click on due to size of fingers and links.
Point UI:
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 9.0
- Visual Rating - 10
- Speed - 9.0
Point UI was a great program to use. Very fast. Plenty of options and allowed for control of sounds, comm manager, and finger scrolling. I greatly enjoyed this program. One Problem was it was not Alt Tab friendly nor were you able to make your own short cuts to help get to programs faster. I was very pleased with the speed and animation and highly recommend this.
SPB Mobile Shell:
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 9.5
- Visual Rating - 9.5
- Speed - 10
After all the programs I always seem to be going back to SPB Mobile Shell. the fact that is is finger friendly and highly customizable make it so much fun to use. Also the visually the effects are amazing as well as being easy to navigate. it is very fast and with its integration with SPB Phone suite it can allow to change sound volume and hopefully soon enable the comm manager from SPB Phone.
Now that I have that out of the way for now I am wondering what you think? Which is the best, easiest to customize, visually beautiful, and fun to use. Let me know? I am looking for something that will incorporate well.
WAD2 is the best..with WAD2 you can create the other design of the programs which you have mention for sure
JukEboXAuDiO said:
OK So I have tried all of these and I have a few issues with each of them because they are all see to be missing something. I have rated them and I was wondering what you guys take is on them. Here we go.
Throttle:
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 7.5
- Visual Rating - 8.5
- Speed - 7.0
Throttle is cool but as far as space on you device is concerned it can fill it with a lot of short cuts and make it look very cluttered. it can also run slow on different devices and can be hassle for others who like a clean and quick running machine.
WAD:
- Finger Friendly: No
- Overall Rating - 8.0
- Visual Rating - 8.0
- Speed - 6.0
WAD was actually pretty cool. I downloaded it and played around with the Vista skin that was featured in this forum. I did find that WAD was very complicated to get the themes to work and there was not much help on the Lakeridge forums when I had questions and issues with it showing the wrong thing. Also when switching from landscape to portrait was a hassle and took a good long amount of time. Visually it was nice but many areas were hard to click on due to size of fingers and links.
Point UI:
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 9.0
- Visual Rating - 10
- Speed - 9.0
Point UI was a great program to use. Very fast. Plenty of options and allowed for control of sounds, comm manager, and finger scrolling. I greatly enjoyed this program. One Problem was it was not Alt Tab friendly nor were you able to make your own short cuts to help get to programs faster. I was very pleased with the speed and animation and highly recommend this.
SPB Mobile Shell:
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 9.5
- Visual Rating - 9.5
- Speed - 10
After all the programs I always seem to be going back to SPB Mobile Shell. the fact that is is finger friendly and highly customizable make it so much fun to use. Also the visually the effects are amazing as well as being easy to navigate. it is very fast and with its integration with SPB Phone suite it can allow to change sound volume and hopefully soon enable the comm manager from SPB Phone.
Now that I have that out of the way for now I am wondering what you think? Which is the best, easiest to customize, visually beautiful, and fun to use. Let me know? I am looking for something that will incorporate well.
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What is your number scale based on? Meaning, you have to have to extremes that you consider amazing (10) and really bad (1 or 0 depending whether it is 0-10 or 1-10). Please consider two things when making a post like this one:
a) While it might be usefull for noobs, you want to be as clear as possible as to what your selection criteria was. Otherwise, you will end up causing more questions than answers.
b)Even though "Development and hacking" might be the best place to put this kind of thread (due mainly to exposure), I think that you should have posted this in the "General" section.
I know that you had good intentions trying to share your personal experiences with the rest of the community, which is why I am advising you to first check if another thread of this kind already exists (I have seen quite a few comparing virtually everything in this site). Maybe the person who started the other thread asking this exact same question is still waiting for an answer on his own post (and will not bother to check for new threads).
Besides, keeping new threads to a minimum makes the devs happy (and keeps CG away )
SPB Mobile Shell: (loved this, BUT battery draining issue). Also, the flexibility to mods the layout to suit my taste.
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 9.5
- Visual Rating - 9.5
- Speed - 10
Point UI: (tested (early version) it, but removed because of so many bugs)
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 9.0
- Visual Rating - 10
- Speed - 9.0
WAD: (great for non-touch WM based smartphone)
- Finger Friendly: No
- Overall Rating - 8.0
- Visual Rating - 8.0
- Speed - 6.0
Throttle: (have not test it, so couldn't give feedback)
- Finger Friendly: Yes
- Overall Rating - 7.5
- Visual Rating - 8.5
- Speed - 7.0
I'd add Ultimate Launcher to this comparison....
I hate SPB Mobile Shell for the simple fact that its program list only lists 9 at a time and I have to press next repeatedly to get the U and Z. Haven't found a way around that. I know it has some frequently used shortcuts but when I suddently want to use something, I don't want to press Next like 10 times to use it. I like everthing else about SPB Mobile Shell but that one problem makes me uninstall it.
PointUI is better because the prog list is scrollable and beautiful. So if I want the Z, I'll just have to swipe my thumb once or twice and it will vroom-vroom to the bottom part of the prog list. In fact, I'm currently using PointUI on my phone with Wisbar Advance (my own TuiFone theme with a "secret" close button ). For those who used 1.02b and earlier, there is a new 1.5a which is much better and less buggy!!!
WAD is confusing to set up and customize. Wisbar Advance (WA) is better in term of user-friendliness.
Throttle is slow on my device.
JukEboXAuDiO said:
OK So I have tried all of these and I have a few issues with each of them because they are all see to be missing something. I have rated them and I was wondering what you guys take is on them. Here we go.
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First of all thanks for including my app on a list with such awesome apps . Also I think you've forgoten (may be you haven't tried them jet) other really cool apps like UltimateLaunch or rltoday. For the apps you've included I'm almost with you in all your apreciations, but here's why I started developing ThrottleLauncher 6 months ago:
- PointUI: awesome but too fixed imo (at least the version I tested then). I don't know if it's possible now but it's not configurable at all.
- WAD: you have to pay for it so I haven't tested it.
- SPB MS: you have to pay for it. It looks really nice though.
- UltimateLauncher: I didn't knew this app six months ago... probably I will have had many doubts to start Throttle's development if I have seen it before . The drawback for me is that it's not completly free and that it's l&k configuration is limited to icons and animations.
- Rltoday: fully configurable (but complex) and it's functionality is too mixed with mortscripts (wich by the way is other really nice peace of soft)
As the first user of throttle is me I've designed it to match my needs so I will not do any comments other than there's still lot's of things to do.
Hope this other point of view is helpfull for people to choose it's XDA engine .
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First of all thanks for including my app on a list with such awesome apps . ....
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I will like to add few things:
MS: to much finger friendly.. i dont want to swipe or click next for like 10 times.. also its not that much customizable.. because of xda we have so many themes and skins.. but it is still PITA to customize it.. and its very costly .. atleast for me.. i think in general also.. ($30 is a lot of amount.. especially when you have already purchased pocket plus.. )
pointui and wad: never used them.. cant comment
RLtoday: first program which i used.. loved it and still love it.. have it incorporated in UL.. you have to make your own skins via xml... that can be learned in like 4 days.. only problem is you have to place icons by co-ordinates.. it does not automatically place them.. so you have to be sure where you want to put your icon and that means lot of trial and error.. but once you get hang of it.. you can do some amazing work..
UL: my current launcher.. provides you with everthing.. cube, sliding animation on today.. complete customization.. ...negative points will be only icons type used is .ico and you have to take care of size.. also you cant use UL all by itself.. UL is more dependent on other plugins to make it work better.. best used with RLtoday, Pocket plus and Vijay555 tools IMO (my setup uses these three)
Throttle: used its 0.5 and 0.6 version. Lot of potential in the app.. 0.9 version is very good.. installed it but still using default theme as dont have time to work on a new one.. picture thumbnail view is awesome and something new.. it is also a complete package.. inbuilt photo contact, system shortcuts, running programs, task manager... much more than any other single app but i think because of that memory and speed issues are there.. waiting for apbilbo to reach his target of ver 1.0 and then hope to see some major code changes which can make it run faster my gene .. .. or may be it will be much more faster when 1.0 is released... (no pressure alfonso.. )
personally i dont mind memory cause after this you dont need anything.. but speed is a issue..
I'm a WAD user. And I personally think that WAD has potential. It is a great software. Its flexibility is the best. The skinning thing is fabulous! But sometimes it cost a lot of time.
I can give WAD a full mark, but I won't. Its HUGE memory consume is its largest drawback, d'oh! I'm still using this software though
Waiting for WAD2! I think it's animated, and gesture enable...
Where is iFonz in your test??????
WAD2 has animation gestures, in fact I have tryed every beta (WAD2 beta 1 to 6) and they are really cool, try them!!
UL is another very good choice, but not as customizable as WAD2.
Agreed,
as I have mentioned before, WAD flexibility is the best! And if I may say, WAD is finger-friendly if you want it to be finger friendly, hahaha
here's for example, I made this as my programs launcher on WAD
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
And yess, I believe WAD2 is going to be kickass
I have used mobile shell, ultimate launch and pointUI. Now I settle with pointUI after the new version is out.
I never liked the way mobile shell works, always uninstalled before the trial is over, even when I used the pointUI theme.
The old pointUI is too buggy that I have to soft reset way too often that's when I started using ultimate launch. However like someone else pointedout ultimate launch depends heavily on other plug in to look nice.
Then recently after new pointui was launched I started using again. There is only few complaint, which is because I don't use my phone for email or message at all and I can't replace those for anything, and occasionally the scroll won't work which I can always use the D-pad. Other than that this is perfect, works beautifully with open touch 4.0 lite black rom. To me poiintui is the way to go.
To each his own on which UI is better. I've tried them all and they all have there good / bad points so this debate could go on forever. I'm sure this question will be asked a million times more and then when WM7, Android come out, we will start over.
* MS2.0 is what I currently use *
Cool article, will definitely link to it in my next, related article!
Menneisyys said:
Cool article, will definitely link to it in my next, related article!
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Thanks. I try. I am a stickler for making my stuff banging. At the moment aI am using hte prerelease version of the MS Carbon skin and I love it with the 3 tabs. ALong with S2U2, S2p, S2V, and some other great stuff.
WAD is my favorite out of everything I've tried. I'm loving the flexibility of the skins
for me the best applications are:
about today plugin :
1 Ultimate Launch
2) Battery Status and rlToday
iphone like:
1) iFonz ( very easy to customize)
2) Itask (very beautiful but it seems developpment is stopped now), not easy to customize but reall we can do many things
3) PointUi (not easy/nearly nothing to customize)
4)Throttle Launcher (not used , seems to be complex and not working for all on my P3600, even if I like the concept)
Video appli :
1)TCPMP (work perfectly on my P3600)
Others:
A_c's suite (S2U2,S2P, S2V)
Background applis:
- elias killer appli
- shantz today theme changer
I had another application tobe able to have 9 different desk but it doesn't work anymore (probably after instally BatteryStatus) it is V2R Multidesk : if I had not this problem it will be the best plugin but not now anymore (it is the only commercial program I have)
Cheers
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Where is iFonz in your test??????
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iFonz is what I currently use right now, I have tried Mobile Shell, and some other ones, but I like iFonz because it has animations for when you are opening a program, and is very iphone like (almost exact copy). I only wish that it would use less RAM, as with the Mogul, if i try to open Opera 9.5 while iFonz is running (to use my iphone web browser) it will close iFonz, since it runs out of RAM, this will probably not be a problem on a future device with more RAM (like Touch/Tilt)but for my use with my sprint mogul, it is the only downside i see to ifonz.
PointUI 1.51a is honestly one of the coolest UI's out there. I love it because of its simplicity and the fact that it just works. It could use customizations (like wallpaper) but it still looks sharp and runs awesome with my HTC Touch. I use s2p and s2u2 with it and they work very well hand in hand. One minor issue with pointui is the Red Button on the htc touch takes you to the windows home screen, but a simple mort script eliminated this issue. The best part of pointui is the speed. The new contact list is far superior. Now if only they would give you the option to reverse the scroll direction...

Xperia Panels - Whats the use if you cant run them concurrently

Hi all Xperia owners,
As a owner of this hyped phone, it has comed to my greatest astonishment that the Panels cannot be "used" concurrently.
For example:
If I wished to activate the multimedia panel to listen to some MP3 while at the same time do FaceBook panel , there is no way this can happen.
Or, whats the point of just staring at the FM Radio panel when I could be viewing some photos in the photo album while having my favourite FM Station running in the background?
To further add salt to wound, Sony did not bother to put these programs to be executable from the native Windows/Program folder.
Am I missing a point here from Sony as in this multitasking windows environment, they have decided to make their Panel technology run serially? Or maybe i did miss out some important settings ?
I agree with your statement above, panels are not multitask-friendly. My guess is that it was an attempt from SE to make their winmo distro more stable, preventing these processes from overlapping each other and taking up memory. I've noticed that the video playback performance is better on the Sony media experience panel than coreplayer (go ahead flame me) although not as flexible. Something similar happens with the popular iPhone, if you've ever messed around with one you'll notice it's basically unitasking, one app at a time, the only apps you can multitask with are the ipod and phone, but rarely crashes.
Actually, I was thinking about this. I, like many people, thought that the panels would just sit there, with nine different apps running side by side. Obviously this isn't the case. Could it be that this is just the first stage in the panel interface, a kinda test run? What about the next Xperia? X2 or X5 or whatever it's gonna be. Maybe it'll deliver what most people expected from the panels...
I think you guys are missing the point of panels.
If that's the case, you don't need panels, you just need applications running concurrently.
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I think you guys are missing the point of panels.
If that's the case, you don't need panels, you just need applications running concurrently.
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I personally have found the SE media panel to be the most useful of all. For everything else that I don't demand high system priorities for, just run them as regular apps concurrently.
zenkinz, in your opinion, what's the point of panels? Please read my post above about what I think they are for (stability and performance).
if they were there would be much much less ram and cpu juice left
the arm cpu's are not as powerfull as computer cpu's
so believe me if they were you would suffer
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Which in actuality proves my point that the Panels are nothing more than fancy graphics or multiple "todays" screen.
Any WinMo/Symbian device today without Panels can definitely do Media browsing and FM Radio/Music and MORE without the slightest sign of sluggishness while Xperia with its powerful processor and available RAM lacks multitasking due to its much talked about "Panels"?
Strip its Panels and a slightly longer (but not wider) display , Xperia does not even come close to the Touch Pro with TF3D, G-Sensor, better sound and built quality
cmloo said:
Which in actuality proves my point that the Panels are nothing more than fancy graphics or multiple "todays" screen.
Any WinMo/Symbian device today without Panels can definitely do Media browsing and FM Radio/Music and MORE without the slightest sign of sluggishness while Xperia with its powerful processor and available RAM lacks multitasking due to its much talked about "Panels"?
Strip its Panels and a slightly longer (but not wider) display , Xperia does not even come close to the Touch Pro with TF3D, G-Sensor, better sound and built quality
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The Xperia was designed by HTC based on SE's standards. What I did with mine was flash it with one of the cooked roms in the roms section which gave me the TF3D and it's pretty fast. I also added the panels, but for the sole reason of the SE media experience panel which I like for playing smoother video. In the end, it's all software, and it doesn't lack multitasking, only among panels. The rest is all good old winmo.
yeah, panels are a disapointment, the should let do some multitasking or at least run panels as an application (facebook one for example).
anyways, I think we currently have a "beta" rom in our xperias, since it's from august/08... maybe next mont we get a big update... let's hope...
this, or just a cooked rom without problems
The thing about Panels is that they allow you to change the look and feel of your device. On one hand i have a simple Today screen, on another i have the detailed today screen... then i have an SPB screen... and now we have Touch HD's TF3D as a panel too! Soon... we'll have more panels, like a home screen that allows you to navigate with ease (navigation panel). The main point is that regardless of the panel of your choice, you have access to all the windows mobile software along-side it.
I think panels are a really powerful feature of the phone! And as far as multi-tasking is concerned... you can run media player or the more famous core player and write messages, etc. and work with your selected panel of choice without much lag. And this to me is very powerful. not taking into consideration the likes of iPhone, but going straight to Symbian... Symbian too is powerful, but i consider windows mobile to be further ahead. What you can do with symbian, you could do with a simple windows mobile phone without panels or TF3D or gadgets and so on...
In my opinion; Xperia delivers what it set out to do... a powerful experience. Sure there are lags at certain times... but overall it is the perfect windows mobile device!
Sure two panels don't run simultaneously... and it would be awesome if in a future update we do get something like that... but overall it works great!
rpereira said:
I personally have found the SE media panel to be the most useful of all. For everything else that I don't demand high system priorities for, just run them as regular apps concurrently.
zenkinz, in your opinion, what's the point of panels? Please read my post above about what I think they are for (stability and performance).
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the point of panel is to offer different "theme" of Today screen based on your primary usage of your phone at that particular point in time.
It's always good to have quick access to your next appointment, or tasks, but really you probably only do that when you are in meeting, or while you are working. When you are at outside office hours, you probably be spending time listening to music, watching video, or just simply idling. You may get a new email notification, or have to reply an incoming sms, but after taking action for these sporadic events you will be back to the 'Today' screen that offers you the theme you are in..
That's why I came out with the idea of Car navigation panel, where I need not worry about fumbling with new email notification, or having to switch to media player to change albums, as I can always go back to 'Today' screen easily.
In anycase, that's just my view (or maybe how I like to think that way), because if it's meant to be a concurrent active desktops, you might be better off with just running the programs and using taskmanager to switch from process to process.
I'm very happy with the panels too
maybe the real questions is one of expectations
if people belived they were getting 9 pda's they could switch
between it would likely be an disappointment
but it's not likely to be the last with these pda phones
cmloo said:
Which in actuality proves my point that the Panels are nothing more than fancy graphics or multiple "todays" screen.
Any WinMo/Symbian device today without Panels can definitely do Media browsing and FM Radio/Music and MORE without the slightest sign of sluggishness while Xperia with its powerful processor and available RAM lacks multitasking due to its much talked about "Panels"?
Strip its Panels and a slightly longer (but not wider) display , Xperia does not even come close to the Touch Pro with TF3D, G-Sensor, better sound and built quality
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to each his/her own.
I find Touch Pro no better than my Xperia. TF3D is just a flashy interface that offers limited function. The tabs acts like a panel, but there's so limited you can do within the tab (e.g. music player, stock quote or photo browser, they are just plug-in rather than full blown application)
TP is also nowhere near (imho) to Xperia in terms of performance (Xperia is so much responsive and fast), design (curvy body versus brick design) and keyboard ergonomic (many would disagree, I go for overall experience over total number of keys)
Just my own opinion only
Rudegar said:
I'm very happy with the panels too
maybe the real questions is one of expectations
if people belived they were getting 9 pda's they could switch
between it would likely be an disappointment
but it's not likely to be the last with these pda phones
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agree, and also, it's one thing about providing 9 active panels with 1 glance (as some folks are frowing over lack of the capability), it's another being able to consume all the information offered by all the 9 panels at one go, not to mention the miniature fonts you have to handle ..
Makes sense. If i were depending on my navigator to show me the way while driving, it would really suck to get random notifications from other programs, so I think your panel idea will be quite useful.
I'm also sideing with the "Panels are good" guys.
I love the versatility that they give me, and am just patiently waiting to see what comes out of the Panel Development Competion, S.E. are supposed to be running.
I have had as many as 5 different UI's set up on different panels, as much to test them out, as to give me different screen "looks" when i felt like a change.
My latest way is to use different panels as "software themes". Like, I can set up a multimedia panel with all my video, and audio players shortcutted into it. A navigation panel, with all my sat nav style apps set up .
etc. etc.
It can only get better, in my opinion.
I do think 50% of people are missing the potential of Panels, tho.
i dont mind the panels too much. however what i am unhappy about is that sony ericsson advertised the panels as being active. therefore theoretically you could press the xpanel button and the 9 panels shown would update in realtime. currently the panels are little more than shortcuts to some fancy apps or homescreens
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The thing about Panels is that they allow you to change the look and feel of your device.
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Couldn't agree more and I am satisfied w/ the panel too.
One important fact many people forget about is WM as of right now has a max limit of 32 processes (including background that run your phone). Some tricks can be done to workaround this issue but there's still a limit and the OS will close some of the non active processes if you reach that. It doesn't matter how fast your CPU or how many ram you got.
I'm coming to believe that the applications runing on Panels are just on top of another layer instead of running straight on top of the OS.
iPhone and BB have no problem filling the "desktop" with icons that are no more that a call to the program. Functionally they are more efficient to reach any where that even Touchflo 3D
What's the purpose to have a whole panel to run a program. That's stupid. for exmaple FM radio or FaceBook.
The Panels are not more that an ill conceived idea, with some BS marketing ideology behind them. All they did was destroy one one best smartphones ever built.

New UI Shame its not real yet

Came across this in my day to day surfing, looks pretty promising
http://www.larvalabs.com/product_pages/intelligent_home_screen.html
Looks pretty, but looks limiting on what it can show IMHO. Would far rather have the 7 Home screens I already have
Kind of reminds me of WinMo 6.5's new Today screen plugin, which is sorta pretty, but yes, very limiting compared to HTC's TouchFlo. I agree with JoeMax. It's pretty, but I would feel restricted. I'd much rather see MOTOBLUR make its way to HTC devices, thus bringing all the information to the today screen, while still allowing multiple home screens.
It does borrow from 6.5/Zune in its look.
Sometimes though I do crave a simpler home screen without having to swipe.
I like the simplicity behind it. Its information driven and maximizes the use of screen space to show stuff that matters (as opposed to an icon or fancy-smancy graphics ) I would definitely use this when it comes out.
Biffert said:
I like the simplicity behind it. Its information driven and maximizes the use of screen space to show stuff that matters (as opposed to an icon or fancy-smancy graphics ) I would definitely use this when it comes out.
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They have posted info about the beta program for this app.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHlBNm5IYzlMYkJOam4tU2gxMWNJVnc6MA
I have had a try of this in beta form a few weeks ago, the concept is nice but it is very very buggy and wasnt very speedy either..
It does have some promise though
Good for communication junkies...for everything else it sucks.
it's good for those who don't need tons of their apps on homescreen
i have it on my hero (beta10 now), and it's very nice. fast in this version, not so many bugs, simple...
for me it's great. waitng for stable release
i don't like it, because its just a list and has no real structure, besides list sorting. I hated how wm 6.5 introduced something similar, just a text list. The most ugly text list i have ever seen was on wm 6.5...
I prefer a mixture of apps shortcuts and widgets like i'm having on my HTC Hero now. And a little bit spacing does help to get a better overview imo. On this list all the information is very cluttered together, but still somehow confusing because of the small font size and the lack of information on some rows.
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i don't like it, because its just a list and has no real structure, besides list sorting. I hated how wm 6.5 introduced something similar, just a text list. The most ugly text list i have ever seen was on wm 6.5...
I prefer a mixture of apps shortcuts and widgets like i'm having on my HTC Hero now. And a little bit spacing does help to get a better overview imo. On this list all the information is very cluttered together, but still somehow confusing because of the small font size and the lack of information on some rows.
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i agree it looks like a cheap copy of titanium witch i dont like anyway lol
I've been playing around with it now for the last week & apart from a few little problems (It doesn't update itself with notifications dynamicly such as text messages, only periodically) I really like it.
It desperately needs to have a shortcuts function to my favourite applications & also to the wireless controls but other then that I think that this is a solid alternative to the typical widgets based interface that everyone is doing at the moment.

Review: Infinity UI with my HTC Touch Pro2 (WM6.5)

Acknowledgement: Infinity is in a very early development stage,it's not yet a finished application,this review doesnt reflect the final completed software,the purpose of this review is to let devolopers and would-be users to contribute ideas in order to make final completed software more perfect.
please see full review with pictures in the following link:
http://forum.ageye.de/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1461&p=7600#p7600
The Infinity v0.2.1 is apparently not compatible with WM6.5 very well, I even cannot set background picture for the desktop,so there must be some buttons missing.
Generally it looks very promising,compared to Touchflo 3D,it’s much more customizable,you can put any shortcuts and widgets in anywhere of the desktop,this is the feature millions are looking for;Compare to SPB Mobile Shell, the Infinity looks very similar but more agile and you can set everything neat and usable immediately.
Like SPB Mobile Shell,the Ageye Infinity let you do two most important things:
One,you put all your most important shortcuts and widgets on the desktop,NOTE any location of the desktop. While for Touchflo 3D,you basically cannot do much about the desktop, this sucks badly and I am suffercating every time I see Touchflo 3D.
Two,you put less important or less frequently used shortcuts in Favorite Folder (in SPB Mobile Shell,it’s called Launcher,in Infinity,it’s the middle button I saw when I tested it in my HTC Pro2 with WM6.5 rom).
As I didn’t see the Infinity Manual,it took me about 15 minutes to figure out how to use it, I should say it’s more or less close to SPB Mobile Shell when it comes to customization of desktop and Favorite Folder.
The difference is,for example,you want to place Contacts in the desktop,first you need to add “Shortcut” in the desktop,this Shortcut is an empty icon,then you click on this Shortcut icon to find the path of the Contacts.
If you are interested to try out Infinity v0.2.1,please download(probably need registration):
http://forum.ageye.de/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1369
Install to your main memory,then in programs you can find a Infinity program icon,click to run.
Suggestions to developers:
1. how to set the background for desktop,the default background is not-so-good-looking,there is no button that can set this,please update based on WM6.5.
2. where is the general configuration? How to set Infinity to replace Today? How to change language? How to set the number of pages of desktop?
3. how to change the size of icons in the desktop? In SPB Mobile Shell,it got this feature,you can make the icon small,big,professional,transparent etc etc.
4. about the right and left soft key configuration,it seems that the option is very limited,can we assign any programs and widgets for the right and left soft key?
5. For Infinity own widgets, I suggest you to add Task Manager, this is most often used tool,In addition,if we can put this Task Manager in the right soft key,that will be very convenient! I saw SPB Mobile Shell has a great Task Manager widget,users can use Shell extension tool to put it beside the Launcher.
Looking forward to your great update soon!
INFINITY is an alpha release
karandras24 said:
INFINITY is an alpha release
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Exactly! And it's already pretty amazing.
This UI seems to be alot like PointUI.. I dont know a lot about coding but it seems like a very early version of the same UI
I dont doubt that it is entirely different that's just my two cents from screen shots of Infinity.
Pointui you can use tons and tons of different themes and wigets etc as well.
ie:Pointui Sense, Nexus One, Mac OS... the list really is endless.
Just some food for thought. If you like Infinity you should definaly give pointui a try. That said...... if you're the developer and just trying to spread the word about Infinity.. My bad! I looks promising!
Aaron McCarthy said:
This UI seems to be alot like PointUI.. I dont know a lot about coding but it seems like a very early version of the same UI
I dont doubt that it is entirely different that's just my two cents from screen shots of Infinity.
Pointui you can use tons and tons of different themes and wigets etc as well.
ie:Pointui Sense, Nexus One, Mac OS... the list really is endless.
Just some food for thought. If you like Infinity you should definaly give pointui a try. That said...... if you're the developer and just trying to spread the word about Infinity.. My bad! I looks promising!
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It's not really like PointUI - it doesn't crash as often
No, I've tried (bought) PointUI and other than the PointSense theme (which has been abandoned by its developer) there's nothing much about PointUI to get excited about Add to that the fact that PointUI hasn't seen an update from its developers in a very long time...
I think that Infinity shows more promise than both SPB Mobile Shell and PointUI combined. People are forgetting that what they've seen so far is only an ALPHA version!
About the task manager, try to press on the top bar...

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