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4GB SD cards again... but Samsung?

Hi all,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...80014389657&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
Some eBay store is selling 4GB OEM Samsungs (or so he claims?) for a pretty good price. Please don't scream 'SCAM!' yet until I confirm that I haven't recieved a card from him .
But the real question here is, will this work on a Magician? There are plenty of threads about Adata and Transcend but none for Samsung (yes I realise samsungs are rebranded at retails, but I doubt Adata and Transcend rebrand Samsungs?)! Note the description says 'Support SD 1.1', so hopefully that means a yes?
Thanks!
EDIT: The listing above ended a while back. Theres a newer bunch here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/150X-4GB-OEM...hZ018QQcategoryZ93930QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

got one in my charmer but yeah they work on magicians too. tested on an imate jam using the latest 1.12 rom.

Thanks for the info, but my one doesn't seem to work in my Magician... heck it looks suspiciously fake, but I've tested it with a 3.6GB batch of files and it holds brilliantly! It works on my older Dell Axim x30, which really doesn't say anything good about the Magician's SD tech...
Well its a bit last ditch, but anyone got any ideas?
Thanks!
EDIT: dave, I found a similar post of yours on Modaco :lol:... well yea since you seem to have bought the exact same item, I was wondering if you could verify some things for me:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!

toomuchdogfur said:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!
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dont know the firmware as i dont have the phone to hand but its got the lastest rom from www.clubimate.com, as i remember i used the one with the lastest date which is either the file youve mentioned or the UK one with the same date.
my card had a green sticker on it, one which looks like its been printed on an inkjet printer and then torn rather than cut to fit the card!

Would it work with the Blueangel?????
Thanks.

Yea I've tried the latest i-mate international ROM with no success, but I'll get the UK one and try that once my download metering goes into off-peak . I hope that it is a ROM problem and not a hardware one, so then I would have at least an inkling of a chance in getting the SD to work on my XDA Mini!
As for the BlueAngel, I can only say that it won't work on a Wallaby (O2 XDA), but then again thats an era behind the BlueAngel... don't buy it until you're certain, because you won't have much fun trying to get a return from a US seller. What I can say is that its not a fake (tested it by dumping >3GB of files on it), but it does come with an ugly sticker... maybe if you ask nicely the dude will give you a choice of colour. :wink:
Blargh bloody card! Why can't you just WORK!

XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..

Re: XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Still doesn't work!!! Even on UK i-mate JAM ROM. Now I'm resorting to farfetched ideas such as filling the card up to 2GB and 3GB (still in progress) and putting autorun programs on it (doesn't work). I've tried it on FAT16, FAT32 and even NTFS with no luck, partitioned it to 2GB with no results. A few more questions, if you don't mind?
- Did your i-mate prompt you to format your card upon insertion, or did it work on the get-go?
- Was it formatted or partitioned in any particular way?
oicnev said:
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..
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Lucky you ! Yes I had the same issue with my Dell Axim x30, what I did was that I used paritioning software to delete the entire 2GB partition, then to paritition the entire 4GB as FAT32... and it worked! So from my view, if your PDA is able to format a certain memory card, even partially, that means it can read it whole BUT it can't format it properly. Hence you format it for it .

a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.

dream_sequence said:
a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.
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I guess you would hafta believe the speed ratings on the cards, hence I presume a 200x MMC would beat the pants of any other flash memory card under 200x, regardless of whether it was a MMC, SD, etc.
Yea I've read of poor Magician compatibility with any cards above 1GB. But what baffles and irritates me most is that dave106 has (seemingly) exactly the same bloody card working in his mate's i-mate JAM, yet my bloody thing will prompt me to format everytime - if I don't, it doesn't read, but if I do, it formats to RAW and doesn't read :? !

hmmmm... examining the 4GB card using Paragon Partition Manager gets some interesting results! Here's the card when properly formatted:
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: FAT32
Drive letter: G:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 32
Sectors / cluster: 8
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 7.7 MB ( 0%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
...and here's the card after a stint in Magician's 'format':
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: Unformatted
Drive letter: *:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 0
Sectors / cluster: 0
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 2048 GB (53363%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
2048GB used??? Even if I delete the partition on my SD card so it becomes RAW, the used stays put at 0 bytes. It seems as though the Magician gets confused as hell when formatting this card... wonder why?

when i got the card, stuck it in the PC and it was already formatted. Put about 3.5gig of music on it and a few days later tried it out in my mates jam and it came up fine in the memory cpl and in file explorer.

Still no luck... after numerous reflashes and ideas, i've given up on this card. Thanks for all the help anyway dave! My uncle has a XDA Mini as well so I'll try it in his later.

howdy,
not too sure wether this revelation applies to your 4gb cards, but I found out many previously unrecognizable sd cards( upto two gigs) were readable once formatted with sktools.
- No, this is not a joke, try it and lets see whether it applies to 4 gig cards as well.
cheers

RE SKTools
Hi.. just tried SKTools.. I couldn't use its feature for SD Cards, it couldn't detect any SD CARD when i inserted my 4gig SD Card, but it could, when i inserted my 256MB...
But thanks,, i found it so useful for alot of my other pocket pc concerns..
HELP...

Thanks for the tip thormdac, but no luck with it either - doesn't detect the memory card on my XDA Mini, and even if i slot it into my Dell x30 (which can read the four gigs perfectly fine) it cannot format the card such so that it can be read by the Magician. BLAH!
Anyway the seller has offered me a refund, which is either very kind or very suspicious depending on your mindset but I think I'll take up the offer - after I try it in my uncle's XDA Mini on Saturday. Losing ten bucks kinda sucks though :roll:.
Oh and btw I also ran the card through this handy formatting tool from Panasonic/Matsushita - the guys who enforce the SD 1.1 standard. It only works for cards up to 2GB, though even when I partitioned the 4GB card to fit under the limits it spat out an error halfway.
On another note: Another SanDisk eBay scam
Sandisk Ultra II 4GB cards don't exist! I was going to report him, but the sneaky bastard avoided mentioning 'SanDisk' at all... plus the 1-day listing makes me suspect that his account might have been hacked. I just hink it's sad there's these scammers around since there are inevitably people who are going to get sucked in by this :x

OMG!
It worked in my uncle's XDA! In frustration, I carefully dissected my Magician with the help of my uncle only to find... errr, nothing. HOWEVER when I partially put it back together (the first two layers of the top-back panel were still off) and switched it on to test, the card bloody worked! Not knowing what I had did, I put it back together only to have it not work again! @#$!
HMMM... again I pulled off the top two layers of the rear and it worked. Eventually we figured out that if we tightened the screws on the rear panel too much, then the Magician would refuse to read the card properly. A bloody manafacturing defect. Peeling off that fat red sticker on the SD card also helped, and eventually the Magician was reliably reading the SD card!
This might go some length in explaining why 4GB SD cards won't work in the Magician while others will - the thickness of SDs may be putting too much pressure on the contacts in the slot, which are already under some pressure by the panel on top of the SD slot. The only difference between my uncle's and my XDA Mini were the bootloader versions - v1.00 and v1.02 respectively - which seems to indicate that my uncle's is an earlier model - perhaps they don't make them like they used to? Note that my XDA Mini reads every card fine BUT the 4GB - I still cannot come up with an explanation for that, considering that this reading problem seems to be a mechanical problem.
I don't know if I'm right at all, but perhaps if anyone is having problems reading SD cards in their Mini, you might want to try opening the cover above your battery panel (its plastic, held by hinges, you should be able to figure how to open it if you're brave enough) and adjusting the tightness of the screws holding the panel underneath (you WILL need a TORX screwdriver... bloody small one too, 'TORX 06').
Thanks for all your help too!

4gb Sd card not working in Imate Jam
Thanks for the tip "toomuchdogfur" untightening the screws on the back of my T mobile MDA has now allowed me to use my new 4gb SD card ,before it would constantly suggest to format card .

Hmmm... so its not a single case after all. I wonder if there are a large number of Magicians with this fault?

4gb sd in magician
Hi guys , Ihave been driven mad by the imate jam ( magician ) not recognising memory cards, so I contacted imate support and got this reply:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that the SD card standard is limited to 2 GB and our devices are fully compliant to the standard. Cards with the capacity greater than 2 GB are not compliant to the standard and we cannot guarantee that they will function correctly. As to transferring speed limit, we recommend not using ultra speed SD cards with the speed more than 64x as they either will not work or may pose problems later. Also we would like to inform you that some SD cards need to be formatted using any PC / Laptop (supporting SD cards) before using with our devices.
Regards,
Technical Support - i-mate™
So I finally sent my jam back for repair under warranty as the backlight kept going off too and now it seems to be ok . I did wonder about the thickness of the memory cards because some do feel like a tight fit. I have also read on various forums that the jam cannot manage larger than 2gb size memory cards and lots of owners seem to complain of the same format/ reformat problems.I am looking at getting a 4gb card but don't know which one to try. Most uk available ones are 150x speed. Any I mate jam users with good advice on this topic? :!:
Update 18/10/06
Today I received a Kingmax 4gb 40x sd card from Dabs.com £54.48 and it works in my I-mate jam straight out of the box, no formatting or anything. Finally I can hardly believe it!!!!
http://www.dabs.com/ProductList.asp...y=All&PageMode=3&NavigationKey=0&SearchType=1
ps. MMC plus cards don't work at all in my Imate jam ,although an old ancient 256mb mmc card works.Guess it really is all down to the speed. Keep it below 60x and its hunky dory!

T-Mobile MDA(US) compatible with 4GB miniSD!

http://www.unityelectronics.com/product-product_id/3912
Success with this one out of the box!
No need to re-partition. Full size recognized by the MDA.
Currently running the following from the card, no issues:
1. TomTom Nav 6
2. Windows Live Search
3. Movies in avi format useing TCPMP
4. MP3s using Win Media Player and TCPMP
5. PIE cache on the card.
Currently have it loaded up to 3805.5MB, 179.5MB free, total 3985 MB as reported by settings/memory.
WM5 file explorer see all the files I have on the card.
Total commander also works fine with the card.
Now it is just a matter of seeing how long the card will KEEP working.

4Gb miniSD card is still working. No hiccups today!

Just wanted you to know that *someone* is watching! :lol:
Please keep updating on whether it continues to work.

rpodos said:
Just wanted you to know that *someone* is watching! :lol:
Please keep updating on whether it continues to work.
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I just look at the number of times the thread has been read!
I know some are watching.
Yes. Still working just fine today!

I have a 4GB card too. Got it off ebay. No problems with it to speak of. Had it for a few weeks. Have 2161.88 MB filled. 1711.53 Free. No problems with running stuff off it and playing music too.

When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?

When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?

biolover said:
When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?
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I have not noticed a differnece.

4g
Wow!
I have found that on a 1gig chip I could pack 6 movies created with Pocket DVD.
12 on a 2 gig.
So a 4 gig would hold 24!
Or, you could fit 45 CDs and STILL fit a dozen movies and all your files.
I am VERY interested!....

What brand of 4 GB are you guys using? Thanks.

humblehyper said:
What brand of 4 GB are you guys using? Thanks.
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See 1st post in this thread.

Warning! If your serial number starts with "HT604", it will probably NOT work. I have one of these cards (same place Mark got his) and it fails in my unit.
His works - his serial number starts with "HT606".
So there appears to be a HARDWARE difference - we are both running the same ROM!

Problem with 4GB miniSD
I have 2 TopRam 2 GB cards that work great - have never given me any problem.
So I got a 4 GB TopRam card. First day it worked fine - copied all files from my 2 GB card onto the 4 GB card with the card reader, it read fine in my 8125, showed almost 4 GB total capacity and over 2 GB free.
Then it suddenly quit being recognized. I thought I had a corrupt music file that caused the problem. I tried to reformat the card but it is now not recognized in my 8125, nor is it recognized in the card reader on my laptop, or in my digital camera. So I have no way to reformat it and try again. I tried the WM5torage trick posted elsewhere - it doesn't recognize the card either.
Any ideas? I know that 4 GB cards work in Wizards! But are they extremely finicky?
This is the second 4 GB card I've tried - the first was a Transcend SDHC and it was a bust from the get-go. But the TopRam seems like it should work, if I could just get it reformatted!

problem!
i just got my 4gb mini sd off ebay.
it is san disk brand.
i tried to format it with windows but windows wouldnt do FAT16.
so i formatted on my ppc and both my ppc and windows read only 1.89gb.
HELP!

My UnityElectronics 4GB is still working fine. I had some issues with PIE using the card for Cache, Temp Internet Files and Cookies. The MDA would keep reverting to phone memory for PIE instead of the 4 GB card. I went back to using Opera and have not had any other new issues.
I have my TomTomV6 1.4GB file on the 4 GB storage card and it worked flawlessly on my trip to PA last week.
I have also ordered the TOPRAM 4GB card and am waiting for it to arrive. Will be interesting to see if I run into the same problems others have had with the TOPRAM card.
Unfortunate that the SDHC card did not work. Over at HF there is a post that there is a dll and reg entries for SDHC. Wonder if it was just a bum card.
As for the TOPRAM card, have you contacted the ebay seller to inquire if he has heard of other similar issues? Sounds like it is no really populated with the full set of memory chips for 4GB. I ran into something similar last year with a card supposedly manufactured by NCP. Turned out to be a fraud. I contacted NCP in Singapore and they indicated that they did not make a 4GB card.
Have you tried TOPRAM directly to see if they have any suggestions?
http://www.topram.com/contact.htm
Interesting that their website shows the 4GB card but it is not on the miniSD page.??????
Will le you know how I make out the TOPRAM.

http://stores.ebay.com/MOBILEMEM_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
My MDA serial is HT621 and all works fine.

supastarv said:
http://stores.ebay.com/MOBILEMEM_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
My MDA serial is HT621 and all works fine.
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The TOMRAM 4GB card?

Genesis3 said:
Warning! If your serial number starts with "HT604", it will probably NOT work. I have one of these cards (same place Mark got his) and it fails in my unit.
His works - his serial number starts with "HT606".
So there appears to be a HARDWARE difference - we are both running the same ROM!
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Where would I find this information...in the phone information or under the battery?

Shawner said:
Where would I find this information...in the phone information or under the battery?
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The only place I could find it was on the outside of the box the MDA was shipped in. You DID keep yours, didn't you?
Seriously, I have not found it on the phone anywhere.

Of course I kept mine. I have never thrown away any cell phone boxes.
Mine is HT 618...hopefully it will work.

New Issue With MiniSD

I have a hermes and there i was using a 2 gb sandisk micro sd card for some 5 month...and recently i brought a trinity and then hence im using that micro sd card with a minisd adapter in the trinity...and for last 1 week it worked flawlessly...last night all of a sudden the minisd card disappeared...no sign of storage card like that there has no card inserted...although in the about window it says expention slot in use..but in memory window no storage card installed!! and resco explorer or any other program cant detect the card...
firstly i thought my card is currupted so i inserted it (the micro sd) in my hermes and it worked there without any glitch...even then i formatted it in both fat16 and fat32 in the pc with a card reader but my trinity cant detect the card....
then i thought my mini sd adapter is broken...so i tried the memory card with the minisd adapter in the nokia 6280 and its working there without any probs....and then i tried the 64mb minisd card that came with nokia 6280 in the trinity and WTF my trinity can detect this card and also working with it..that means the card slot of the trinity is ok...
after all of this experiment then i flashed 3 types of rom in the trinity to see if it can detect the card... one is the lsvw edition with gps...(that i was using for a week before this thing happened) then a original htc rom and the dopod australia rom that my set had when i purched it...but all this three rom has same result...can detect 64 mb card (which is nokia oem minisd) but cant detect the 2gb sacdisk (wich is a micro sd to mini sd converted)...
now do anyone have similar kind of problem...or this is a new issue...i dont have any other card to try in this moment.... just ordered a oem 4gb minisd...will get it in next week...
and finally to let you know that my micro sd card is perfectlly working both in hermes and in nokia with the mini sd adapter and i also did a rough test on it with a card reader in computer with the mini sd converted inserted...and no sign of a probs there...
any comment or suggestion would be helpfull...
and a final thing as i brought it in plan from 3 australuia..and im still in that 14 day period...do you thing if i go to a 3 store and told them the setuation will they replace my handset..??i have the dopod australia rom installed so i dont hink they will be able to detect that i had flased other roms...??
Sajib

it does not support anything higher than a 1gb memory card, i have had this problem to with a 2gb card, i have now put a 1gb card and it see's it fine!

Malkav said:
it does not support anything higher than a 1gb memory card, i have had this problem to with a 2gb card, i have now put a 1gb card and it see's it fine!
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Sorry but I disagree. I have been using a standard Sandisk 2GB miniSD for 4 months now without any problem.

i got told it will only support a maximum of a 1gb mini sd?????

Using a 2 GB SanDisk without problems.

I've been using a standard (non SDHC) 4 gb card for 3 months with no major problems. Never had the card 'disappear' completely - only minor file corruption like losing a picture or a ringtone (but it always comes back on soft reset). Only have those types of issues occasionally anyway (like maybe 1 a week - device should be soft reset that often anyway!) Overall, very pleased with the performance of this device.

G'day,
Perhaps you could try formatting the card in the trinity using an OEM tool. My card (1GB Sandisk miniSD) "disappeared" a few weeks ago after using it OK for a month. I used a card reader in my PC to back it up then formatted it using Spb Pocket Plus in the trinity. I was then able to restore the data from the PC using activesync. Worked OK for me and no problems since.
Good luck.

minisd card problem
Dear Customer,
Thanks for your email regarding your P3600.? The issue you describe is something we are aware of and are currently in the process of rectifying.? It seems to be linked in some way to the latest updates to Windows Mobile 5 and as such we have also enlisted Microsoft's help in solving this.? It seems that the device is accessing the memory while it is in an idle state.
We are currently still investigating the matter with the help of our engineers in Taiwan, but in the meantime, to workaround the problem you can set the device to turn itself off after 1 minute in the power options, then let the device turn itself off instead of pressing the power button.
Once we have fixed the problem, I have no doubt it will be released in some sort of ROM update in the near future.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.

Hong Kong's D810 now officially shipped with a 2G miniSD as a gift

Ok,
I also asked HTC europe supoport about the specifications and got an answer per eMail that the P3600 supports mini SD up to 2GB and does NOT support 'ultra' or SD HC-versions.
So perhaps give it a try with a regular (and unfortunately slower) 2GB SD??
S.

A strange developement that i thought better to be share...firstly my 2 gb sandisk micro sd card (converted to mini sd with a adapter) still doesnt work after updating to latest dopod rom and to latest aku 3.3.1 htc rom...setting>memory still says not installed...but if i boot into bootloaded mode and use the trinming.nbh trick to flash my trinity with a nbh file..it does detect the sd card instantly and start flashing without any problem..so it also prove that the sd card slot is ok and it also detect the card in hardware level but it cant recognise in software part...its strange as the same card worked for the 1st 1 week after i brought the d810..!!!!
now does anyone one have more ideas??
and hopefully im getting my topram 4gb card in a days or 2 to test more furthur...in this mean time im really frustated for not able to use tomtom as no space to keep the maps....

sajib said:
A strange developement that i thought better to be share...firstly my 2 gb sandisk micro sd card (converted to mini sd with a adapter) still doesnt work after updating to latest dopod rom and to latest aku 3.3.1 htc rom...setting>memory still says not installed...but if i boot into bootloaded mode and use the trinming.nbh trick to flash my trinity with a nbh file..it does detect the sd card instantly and start flashing without any problem..so it also prove that the sd card slot is ok and it also detect the card in hardware level but it cant recognise in software part...its strange as the same card worked for the 1st 1 week after i brought the d810..!!!!
now does anyone one have more ideas??
and hopefully im getting my topram 4gb card in a days or 2 to test more furthur...in this mean time im really frustated for not able to use tomtom as no space to keep the maps....
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Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Yeap i tried that performance tweak in both way increased it to 8196 and also decreased it to 1500 nothing helped..
and sure i did format it with two diffrent card reader and also using some other tools like panasonic sd card formater or hp formatting tools...and just a hour ago i tried pertitioning it into two part 1gb/1gb hermes do recognise the card so do the pc in 2 partition mode but trinity cant detect it even now...
and finally as i told you my trinity detect the 64 mb nokia oem minisd card so i also tried partitioning my micro sd into a single 64 partition to find out if it has something to do with the capacity but same result there...
so im bit of confused here...really confused..
Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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sajib said:
Yeap i tried that performance tweak in both way increased it to 8196 and also decreased it to 1500 nothing helped..
and sure i did format it with two diffrent card reader and also using some other tools like panasonic sd card formater or hp formatting tools...and just a hour ago i tried pertitioning it into two part 1gb/1gb hermes do recognise the card so do the pc in 2 partition mode but trinity cant detect it even now...
and finally as i told you my trinity detect the 64 mb nokia oem minisd card so i also tried partitioning my micro sd into a single 64 partition to find out if it has something to do with the capacity but same result there...
so im bit of confused here...really confused..
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It sounds like you've really tried everything. I don't know what else to say , maybe another card will give better luck?

Ok now there i have just got my 4gb topram card and the best of all is my trinity can detect it and show the size as 3970 mb!!!! hey..at last....even though i didnt test it throughly yet (that will be done in next couple of hour) but im happy that the problem i mentioned earlier with 2 gb micro sd card now seems was related to the mini sd card converter or with the card itself atlist not have to deal with the phone warrenty and stuff like that...
thanks to all who tried to help me out..

sajib said:
Ok now there i have just got my 4gb topram card and the best of all is my trinity can detect it and show the size as 3970 mb!!!! hey..at last....even though i didnt test it throughly yet (that will be done in next couple of hour) but im happy that the problem i mentioned earlier with 2 gb micro sd card now seems was related to the mini sd card converter or with the card itself atlist not have to deal with the phone warrenty and stuff like that...
thanks to all who tried to help me out..
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Please let me know if it works fine after a week or so. I'm interested in getting one...
Thanks,

Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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Hi to all!
i have just bought a htc p3600, and when i put my 2gb miniSD card in it, he don't recognise it!!!! this card has working perfectly in my "old" QTEK 9100 (last 9month)
i have also verify that in my QTEK 9100 the regystri was:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:1500[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:1500
i put this values in HTC P3600.... still not regonized. i try whith 8196 but nothing apenned too.....
in anytime, if i put my miniSD in the QTEK 9100, he work's whith no problem....
i already read all this tread, but i can't find the solution to this problem.... maybe i search badly, but can anyone indicate me , if exist, the rigth method to format/resolve this problem.... please help....

hi to all again...
when i'm to format my miniSD in my PC, i can chose the cluster size.... in the tip above, it was referring to change two value to 8196.... but in my PC the cluster size is 8192..... i try whith both value, but still can't get my miniSD recognized....

Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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hi, pls cd u link the other tweaks u reccommend?

Ordered a Sandisk 2GB Ultra Mini SD card earlier today..
After reading this perhaps a 1GB would've been a safer bet... Still, worth a try. Would prefer to have the complete EU maps on one card.

Corrupted data on mini SD card

I'm having problems with my SD 2gb card from SanDisk (made in China) , the data is corrupted . Just bought a Kingston 2gb, made in Taiwan, slightly thicker than de SanDisk (just the feeling I think) and hope that the problem stays away. Are there more people that have the same problem with de HTC P3600 (HTC Trinity, SPV M700) in combination with a sd mini card? I've send a mail to de customer service yesterday and received an automatic reply. Now it is waiting for an answer. I have the hope it is just a small parameter in the setting of the PDA. When I let the PDA go to standby itself after 2 minutes it seems to be OK for now at least. Please give me some reactions from P3600 owners! Look at this link for the same problems on the Artemis: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285511

problem with mini SD
Hy
it seems that P3600 have several problem with mini SD.
first of this expencive pocket diamond does not like all kind fo mini SD..moreover i used a kingston 2GB and it was working well since 3 days ago...then BLACK OUT.
The pocket pc soes not see the mini sd anymore!!
Why? I really do not know, but i'm not the only one who is experienced in this beautiful situation!

HTC says that the problems with the artemis and the sd-card are depending on a software bug together with WM5, and they are working on it. I think, it is the same bug with the trinity

I have a microSD with miniSD Adapter, and is corrupted, and the size of corrupted data is increasing day after day ....
After few days I need format this f***ing card ..... I hope HTC fix this bug soon !!!!!!
Alex13

it happened to me couple of times with a trascend mini sd 2gb.
it really really sucks.
coming from a Mac only world sometime I feel throwing the trinity down a bridge is the best thing to do... I'm not used to crashes and corruption.
But hey, it's the only way to actually use skype when I'm around...
anyway, last week I've installed Trinity Hacks 0.2 a free app that modify the registry, one of the functions is to fix SD compatibility.
I didn't have problems since

This is what HTC told me:
Thanks for your email regarding your P3600. The SanDisk Ultra II 2gb mini SD card is not compatible with the device. Instead of an Ultra card you need a standard mini SD card with no more than 2GB.
I bought a Kingston 2GB and it's running a few days without any problem, keeped my fingers crossed while typing this!

I think I have the fix, instead of re-formatting the card connect the trinity (or data card) to your PC, make sure you can see hidden files and folders, search for a folder/directory starting "MSM". Delete this folder and all the files that have become an issue become unlocked.
Sorry if some one else has posted this fix, just saved myslef hours re-installing TomTom by doing this.
Hope this helps
Graham

SD/SDHC Memory Card Formatting Software

SD/SDHC Memory Card Formatting Software
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html

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jmermel said:
SD/SDHC Memory Card Formatting Software
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...formatter.html
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The link seems to be dead

Link is active now.
Link is active now.

anyone used this?
Is it really necessary?
I had a 4Gb card from Moby Memory- it randomly corrupted data. I couldn't work out if it was the OS, the handset or the card causing problems, but assumed it was the card. They refunded me no problems.
I now have a 1Gb Crucial card- no problems so far. (fingers crossed).
The Trinity does seem to be a bit fussy with spotting cards when you insert them (well mine does!)

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Brother Please Help Me
I Need
SD/SDHC Memory Card Unlocker.​

I really need a 4GB or more sd card.
I have searched and searched for a solution but there seems to be no clear answer. It would seem that some Trinity users are able to use 4gb and 8gb micro cards with adaptors, but others end up with problems after soft resets, such as the device no longer seeing the sd card, or files becoming corrupted.
SO.... I ask you all:
- Can the Trinity reliably use a 4gb micro card with adaptor?
- Is there a fix or download that actually works to achieve the above?
- If not, is there such a thing as a 4GB mini sd card (not sdhc or micro)?
I have tried using a 4gb micro card with adaptor and after soft resetting my Trinity either fails to see it or the sd card became corrupted. I have read many similar stories and experiences. However, My Tomtom maps are nearly 2gb, so I need a 4gb card at least!!!
I see other xda members using 4gb and 8 gb cards. Please, HOW are they achieving this?
Thanks,
Mattster.

hi Mattster,
best way I can hopefully help to answer your questions is:
1. I have used cheap Sandisk 4 gig micro sd's with adaptor in a few Trinity's with no problems at all.
2. there are 4 gig min Sd's out there - see ebay item 260468007473
3. disregarding that cards usually come ready formatted, I always format myself before use anyway.
I have used the Panasonic Formatter (ver 2.0.03) for some time and it works for me.

carkev said:
hi Mattster,
best way I can hopefully help to answer your questions is:
1. I have used cheap Sandisk 4 gig micro sd's with adaptor in a few Trinity's with no problems at all.
2. there are 4 gig min Sd's out there - see ebay item 260468007473
3. disregarding that cards usually come ready formatted, I always format myself before use anyway.
I have used the Panasonic Formatter (ver 2.0.03) for some time and it works for me.
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Hi Carkev.
Thanks for the advice.
I have looked at the 4GB mini sd. It's from Hong Kong and he has sold "4" to date, so I may wait a little before getting one.
Some Trinity's seem to accept 4GB micro's with adaptor, some don't. The search for the reason or solution has tired me out, so I'm sticking with my 2GB for now. I only needed it for my European Tomtom maps (2GB!) so I'll just stick with UK and Ireland.
Thanks for your reply,
Mattster.

shaahedrazib said:
Brother Please Help Me
I Need
SD/SDHC Memory Card Unlocker.​
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Did you get a solution? If yes, please let me know.