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Anybody have any tips on getting the most out of your battery. I'm currently rumming WM6 business edition and just want to know how I can get more out of my battery. I have read to turn off wi-fi and gprs when not using it.. is there anything else that can be done. I have all the battery patches but i dont feel as if they are working..any help would be greatly appreciated
turn IR beam off too...
is that set on by default?
Turn off your phone overnight. You can get an app to do this by schedule (I cannot remember the name, sorry).
PaulMdx said:
Turn off your phone overnight. You can get an app to do this by schedule (I cannot remember the name, sorry).
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Do you mean turn my phone off when i recharge? I ususal recharge during the night
i pretty much never run out of battery and i am running windows mobile 6, all i do is just make sure the screen is off (the button on the top right) and it really helps the battery out
jawnsixteen said:
i pretty much never run out of battery and i am running windows mobile 6, all i do is just make sure the screen is off (the button on the top right) and it really helps the battery out
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Do you do this during the night or throughout the day. Thus having the phone set to turn off after 5 mins of inactivity
by the way, how the heck can i disable "gprs always on" thing? i don't need gprs often, so it just hangs out there without a real purpose, and probably draining my battery a bit...
banannq said:
by the way, how the heck can i disable "gprs always on" thing? i don't need gprs often, so it just hangs out there without a real purpose, and probably draining my battery a bit...
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You can use NoData. Works well for me. Needs registration to the website:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246171&st=0
that just lets you turn it on and off. is there any app that turns on only when needed ie you try to access the internet or get a mms messaging
k2e15 said:
that just lets you turn it on and off. is there any app that turns on only when needed ie you try to access the internet or get a mms messaging
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WM6 should do this after a standard install...by default! Make sure you have GPRS AlwaysOn turned off (Using a Registry Editor search for "Always" and find your matching Internet Connection. Set the value of the AlwaysOn DWORD to 0, not 1.)
Let me know if you need any other help.
i press the button on the top right whenever its not in use. And of course at night.
i set the display to the 2nd bar from the left. it saves way more battery then having the bar in the middle. i turned off the beam. i set power off to 2mins and backlight out @ 30secs. i push the power button (top right) during any phone call to turn the display off. my battery can last me all day and i talk/txt alot.
Buy an extended battery?
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Buy an extended battery?
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lol I have done that!! but I know that there has to be away to save battery.. THx guys I'm going to try these suggestions!
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Do you mean turn my phone off when i recharge? I ususal recharge during the night
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I meant turn it off if you leave it overnight without charging it. My point is moot if you charge it overnight anyway.
I charge mine at work mostly, so I don't charge it overnight. Generally I do so every couple of days.
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WM6 should do this after a standard install...by default! Make sure you have GPRS AlwaysOn turned off (Using a Registry Editor search for "Always" and find your matching Internet Connection. Set the value of the AlwaysOn DWORD to 0, not 1.)
Let me know if you need any other help.
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Found it..but there is not a way to actually turn off gprs if I use it for direct push correct?
ok..not to start something but if uve gone as far to buy a ext battery and ur still not happy w/ batt life sell ur device and buy a nokia they are great on battery.. u cant expect to get good battery life out of this thing..i mean look what it does...
What kind of battery life are you seeing with the WM6 BE rom? I installed it a week ago and so far I've been AMAZED as the battery life. With my reg-tweaked Cingular 2.25 stock rom I'd end the day between 45-55%. Now It's 75-80% solid.
Also, it seems that Wifi uses less power in this rom too...
As of right now I'm not using my extended battery because i wanted to go back to the original battery that came with the phone for a short time since the other battery is bulkier, I only like to use it during the weekends when I'm not close to a power source. I've used all the tips in this thread and they have all worked as my battery has been going strong. thx
Hello all and tnx for an awesome forum! This is my first post here, I did search before posting but could not find an answer.
Is there a way to make the alarm in the phone sound even when the telephone is switched off like a non-winmob? I need to have my phone switched off during the night when I go to sleep to conserve battery. Today I overslept cuz the alarm did not "alarm" me. Can´t find any setting related to it, is there one or is there any 3rd part application that will do the trick?
Tnx in advance
I would say that's impossible, because the X1 is a pocket PC that must boot the OS and then all the software programs can be loaded.
To save energy the standby-mode is implemented. Additional, you can deactivate the "phone-function" to decrease the energy consumption and don't get calls over night.
If the phone is switched off the only chance would be that the BIOS triggers an alarm somehow, but I don't think there is a possibility to do this.
Thank you very much for your quick response.
I had a feeling it wasn´t possible. I´ll use the standby + phone function OFF during night as sugested.
thanx
like an alarm clock if you turn it off there is nothing save human intervention that can turn it on again
those other phones you talk about are just suspected and still using power when off for it's cpu and os to check time vs. notifications to know when you need to get up
think if a tree falls in the forest kinda deal
I never turn my phone off!!
I just recycle the system every couple of weeks!!(turn it off, then on)
So at night my phone is in sleep mode, with the charger plug in!!
So no calls, alarms, etc. missed... Battery fully charged
Stuart
You can use suspend mode, it will last for 2-3 days without recharging, but if you'll charge your phone once a day, your phone will have enough power to alarm you everytime
scl_electronics said:
I never turn my phone off!!
I just recycle the system every couple of weeks!!(turn it off, then on)
So at night my phone is in sleep mode, with the charger plug in!!
So no calls, alarms, etc. missed... Battery fully charged
Stuart
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I see. Charging the battery early and often is the correct way with this type of batterys, correct?
norti said:
You can use suspend mode, it will last for 2-3 days without recharging, but if you'll charge your phone once a day, your phone will have enough power to alarm you everytime
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With risking asking a stupid question, "suspend-mode" as in tapping the on/off button quickly to turn OFF the screen and lock the touchscreen?
sry for doubleposting...
LaZBoy said:
With risking asking a stupid question, "suspend-mode" as in tapping the on/off button quickly to turn OFF the screen and lock the touchscreen?
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Yeah, that's the supend-mode.
A lithium battery should be charged somewhere between 20 to 40% of its maximum power. I read it once in a professional journal.
Li-Po batteries aren't like the Ni-Cds....
They don't get a charge memory problem(won't accept a full charge, if not fully discharged-cycled!) But it does have a problem if you fully discharge it you can damage the battery. The do have protection circuit to prevent this. But it does still happen!!
Also Yes, the sleep or suspend mode is when you "tap" the power button!
Stuart
I thought the Xperia X1 had a LiIon battery, Or am I mistaken?
Just popped my cover off..
Li-Po battery inside....
Stuart
Lithium Ion is the same technology as a lithium polymer. The difference is, that the electrolyt in the LiPo batteries is a polymer (plastics) and not liquid as in the LiIon batteries. The LiPo battery is newer and further developed.
Thank you all for your input on the matter, a feel a bit wiser now
I'm sure at one point i had to hold it down for a few seconds before the phone switched on (while in an off state). What i find annoying now is that when i press the button to see whether it is off or on standby, it instantly switches itself on (it's a minor thing, but still annoying). Anyone know how i can change it back?
As far as i know, the button has always switched the device on instantly with just a simple press.
no found this change also, and was annoyed for the same reason
this is good feature for battery saving i use this method to switch off screen when i gotta leave the phone while reading web pages.
foxcheng said:
this is good feature for battery saving i use this method to switch off screen when i gotta leave the phone while reading web pages.
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Haha same .
Why would you turn the phone off instead of turning the cellular off/use airplane mode?
maedox said:
Why would you turn the phone off instead of turning the cellular off/use airplane mode?
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conserve power overnight when not in use?
hm.. my x1 doesn't use any energy at all when it's in sleep mode overnight.
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hm.. my x1 doesn't use any energy at all when it's in sleep mode overnight.
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That's right.
Flight mode and standby is as good as switched off, but alarms still work what I consider very important.
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That's right.
Flight mode and standby is as good as switched off, but alarms still work what I consider very important.
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surely it's consuming more battery while it's on (even on flight mode), than it's switched off? I have a separate alarm, so it's not an issue.
Eh?
How is any of this related to the OPs question?
The phone does switch on with a simple press, but there is a slight delay after you let go. Any misconceptions I think would be based on the fact that I am so used to using phones that have always required a press and hold to power on.
I make no mistake, the Xperia need only be touched once to power on.
Atleast as far as firmware R2A_10 goes.
perhaps use the keyboard slider to check if the phone is on.
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How is any of this related to the OPs question?
The phone does switch on with a simple press, but there is a slight delay after you let go. Any misconceptions I think would be based on the fact that I am so used to using phones that have always required a press and hold to power on.
I make no mistake, the Xperia need only be touched once to power on.
Atleast as far as firmware R2A_10 goes.
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Indeed, when i switched from my P990i to my X1i i used to press the power button the X1i for a while because i thought thats what SE phones need! It was only after a couple of weeks that i realised that actually it just turns on with an instant click....magic!
Does anyone know if using the Green Power app will conflict with settings in the default battery manager?
ie i have green power set to turn wireless off for 30min and then on for 2min.
but i also have my custom battery saver mode to completely turn data off during off-peak hours after 15min of inactivity.
I would like for Green Power to work under my battery saver mode. aka i want battery saver mode to take precedence.
thanks.
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Does anyone know if using the Green Power app will conflict with settings in the default battery manager?
ie i have green power set to turn wireless off for 30min and then on for 2min.
but i also have my custom battery saver mode to completely turn data off during off-peak hours after 15min of inactivity.
I would like for Green Power to work under my battery saver mode. aka i want battery saver mode to take precedence.
thanks.
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Its like making two bosses settle for one more one less. Might create conflicts. I use 'super power' to turn off wifi. But then don't use internal battery settings.
yea i think im just going to mess around with both individually and see which one gives me better battery life.
Lazyboy006 said:
yea i think im just going to mess around with both individually and see which one gives me better battery life.
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Green Power doesn't work that well on mine; wifi & data are toggled randomly, wifi stays on when screen is off, etc.
I was just mailing with the dev of Green app; he doesn't know either why it happens; ""Low level things like Mobile Data (and Wifi) are quite device specific. Which makes life harder for Android developers than iPhone developers..."".
Waiting for further response, will post here if anything changes..
whenever Green Power turns off my mobile data, it will stay off forever until i reboot. i can get calls and sms, but data will not work. turning off green power and cycling airplane mode doesn't work either.
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whenever Green Power turns off my mobile data, it will stay off forever until i reboot. i can get calls and sms, but data will not work. turning off green power and cycling airplane mode doesn't work either.
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The same thing happened to me once, but after a reboot it has never happened again.
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The same thing happened to me once, but after a reboot it has never happened again.
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wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
Vangelis13 said:
Green Power doesn't work that well on mine; wifi & data are toggled randomly, wifi stays on when screen is off, etc.
I was just mailing with the dev of Green app; he doesn't know either why it happens; ""Low level things like Mobile Data (and Wifi) are quite device specific. Which makes life harder for Android developers than iPhone developers..."".
Waiting for further response, will post here if anything changes..
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wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
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Considering the Atrix has a built in Battery Manager maybe if you set the built in one to the Max Performance where there is no restrictions then use a 3rd party battery manager?
It just seems there will be some conflicts.
dLo GSR said:
wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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I use the internal battery manager only for the screen dimming when it hits a certain percent. Green Power does all the rest and I get killer battery life. I suggest you all do the same. Ditch the 3rd party launcher and set up Green Power with the settings listed in the battery thread.
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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stock locker. GP has frustrated me now that i've stopped using it. the only way to get my data connection working again was to stop the program. even cycling airplane mode did nothing.
dLo GSR said:
stock locker. GP has frustrated me now that i've stopped using it. the only way to get my data connection working again was to stop the program. even cycling airplane mode did nothing.
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Running any weird power control widgets? I'm using the stock android power control for all of that nonsense and it works perfect. Maybe some widgetsoid/third party something isn't registering?
It's a shame, and I hope it starts working for you bc it really is a great thing.
Right now I'm at 1d 1h 32m 18s since unplugged.
Ive had similar issues with green power on my N1 running CM7RC2.
I have noticed the issue seems to be linked to the Day and night mode Toggle if screen ON/Toggle if screen unlocked options
If these options are turned on then app may work for a while and then after some time data will just stay on and never turn off
If these options are off service will work for requested On/Off durations but wont turn data back on when screen is on or unlocked even if manually selecting to enable it.
I tried with this tasker rule set also but didn't seem to work
http://tasker.wikidot.com/datacheck
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
Should your computer check for emails when it's turned off?
This is why android has deep sleep.
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It depends what you mean by 'off'. If you mean a single short press of the power button (which actually puts the phone in Sleep mode), then, at least on my LGQ, the alarm goes off as I would expect. No probs.
If, however, you mean powered down via a long press of the power key and the display of the 'Goodbye' message, then you are truly turning off all functions of the phone and yes, the alarms would be shut off as well.
If you are putting the phone in sleep mode and the alarms are not working, I would try a soft reset of the phone, and if that doesn't fix it, maybe try a full reset then slowing adding applications to see if one is interfering with the alarm function.
Klikerko said:
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
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Smart phones are not meant to be turned off. The standby mode is for putting the phone to sleep, all apps go into dormant so that very little power is needed to keep the phone and messaging system functioning. If you do not want to be bothered at night by phone calls and messaging, then put the phone on silent (no sound, no vibration). The clock and alarm will still functions, and even though you put the phone into silent mode, the phone is smart enough to still sound the alarm to wake you up. I hope that this will help you.
Yup, by "off" I meant turning the phone off with long press. I'm aware I can turn phone to silent and still have alarm work but that's not convenient because I have to do reverse in the morning. Second, and more important is that while it's on the stand by phone is still checking towers for signal, waiting for a phone call, wifi is still working and phone is checking emails, etc. It's just completely unnecessary battery drain just for a privilege of having alarm sound in the morning.
My old Nokia would sound alarm when it's off and ask me if I want to turn the phone on so I was expecting the same from much smarter phone.
Does anyone know if Android or iPhone work the same way? Anyways, I'll check tomorrow morning with my colleagues. I'm eager to learn if this is WP behavior only because then I could expect update to solve the problem.
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Yup, by "off" I meant turning the phone off with long press. I'm aware I can turn phone to silent and still have alarm work but that's not convenient because I have to do reverse in the morning. Second, and more important is that while it's on the stand by phone is still checking towers for signal, waiting for a phone call, wifi is still working and phone is checking emails, etc. It's just completely unnecessary battery drain just for a privilege of having alarm sound in the morning.
My old Nokia would sound alarm when it's off and ask me if I want to turn the phone on so I was expecting the same from much smarter phone.
Does anyone know if Android or iPhone work the same way? Anyways, I'll check tomorrow morning with my colleagues. I'm eager to learn if this is WP behavior only because then I could expect update to solve the problem.
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What you are describing seems to be a function of just Nokia phone, I have never seen this on any phone that I have. You are wrong about standby, it uses very little battery and all data are shut down. I have an android phone and off is off just like this LG quantum. I believe iPhone is the same. Like I said smart phone are not meant to be turned off.
@Otnos, I believe you are wrong about the stand-by. When my phone is on the stand-by (not off) I can clearly hear when email arrives on my Gmail account which means he's listening WiFi and checking emails while in stand-by. He's of course also waiting for call and sms so phone is draining battery for no reason. Also, if you set your phone to wireless sync with your laptop or desktop, and if happens they are on, phone will start syncing files even when it's in the stand-by.
I just check with colleague who has Blackberry. He set alarm at 10:47 and when he was powering off his phone he got message "Next “ON” time is 10:47am". I would say that's smart, that's how smart phone should behave.
Edit: Since I have data plan maybe my phone was checking email over 3G, not wifi.
Edit2: There is a feature request for this so if you would like to see this please vote here!
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@Otnos, I believe you are wrong about the stand-by. When my phone is on the stand-by (not off) I can clearly hear when email arrives on my Gmail account which means he's listening WiFi and checking emails while in stand-by. He's of course also waiting for call and sms so phone is draining battery for no reason. Also, if you set your phone to wireless sync with your laptop or desktop, and if happens they are on, phone will start syncing files even when it's in the stand-by.
I just check with colleague who has Blackberry. He set alarm at 10:47 and when he was powering off his phone he got message "Next “ON” time is 10:47am". I would say that's smart, that's how smart phone should behave.
Edit: Since I have data plan maybe my phone was checking email over 3G, not wifi.
Edit2: There is a feature request for this so if you would like to see this please vote here!
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Actually, I suspect your Blackberry friend is also putting their phone in 'standby' mode, since power off means 'power is off' -- nothing is working any more, not even the alarms, etc.
You are right, the radios are still on during standby mode, but at a very low power consumption. If you truly do want to preserve battery by turning off the phone at night, the other option might be an inexpensive alarm clock..
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What you are describing seems to be a function of just Nokia phone, I have never seen this on any phone that I have. You are wrong about standby, it uses very little battery and all data are shut down. I have an android phone and off is off just like this LG quantum. I believe iPhone is the same. Like I said smart phone are not meant to be turned off.
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i confirm that many old samsung phones that i had and the very recent samsung star S5230 can do that..specifically you could turn your phone off and the phone was automatically turned on from the alarm..you could snooze or dismiss..i miss that feature too..
the reason is that my battery last longer when i charge my phone while is off..
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What you are describing seems to be a function of just Nokia phone, I have never seen this on any phone that I have. You are wrong about standby, it uses very little battery and all data are shut down. I have an android phone and off is off just like this LG quantum. I believe iPhone is the same. Like I said smart phone are not meant to be turned off.
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quite a few nokias do that and even a few LGs but I have yet to meet a Widows phone that would do that.
Shut down means a total shutdown. If alarm rings then there is something going on in background and it's not a true shutdown.
y don't you put your cellphone to offline & battery saver mode !
Thats the way it should be. How would you like if you shut down your phone & it rings in the middle of a meeting or an exam?!
Or when you are hiding in a closet, the husvand comes but your "shut down" phone raises an alarm!!!
Just cuz nokia did a mistake does not means it should be carried forward. Thank God this does not happens any more!
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Shut down means a total shutdown. If alarm rings then there is something going on in background and it's not a true shutdown.
y don't you put your cellphone to offline & battery saver mode !
Thats the way it should be. How would you like if you shut down your phone & it rings in the middle of a meeting or an exam?!
Or when you are hiding in a closet, the husvand comes but your "shut down" phone raises an alarm!!!
Just cuz nokia did a mistake does not means it should be carried forward. Thank God this does not happens any more!
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No, Nokia did it right. Android, iPhone etc. do it wrong. There are also lots of people who miss this feature with new smartphones. This was special for Nokia phones that you can totally turn off your phone but it still wakes you up - it wasnt a misstake at all. No battery consumption at nights.
Klikerko said:
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
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My alarm does work in my Nokia x Android phone when its completely shut down.it turns on automatically at the time when alarm is set and ring ...
"not meant to be turned off" So what happens when you're in the woods with no chargers and need your battery life? Answer that, smart guy.
It's stupid as hell. I have a samsung S390G and the alarm turns on from a complete off. My smart butt stupid new lg doesn't.
Klikerko said:
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
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An iPhone will turn itself on even if it has previously turned itself off due to low battery to fire the alarm off, and it will blast the alarm off as long as the battery allows it to—or if it is charged, as long as the event lasts. I think it is about half and hour, I really haven't counted the time.
I was expecting this the first day I was forced to switch to Android, I had insomnia that night and I did have to wake up early and ended up falling asleep for half an hour more, thankfully my inner worries were strong enough to wake up by myself, a little late though.
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"not meant to be turned off" So what happens when you're in the woods with no chargers and need your battery life? Answer that, smart guy.
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A smart guy carries an usb powerbank with him?
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enigma_x said:
A smart guy carries an usb powerbank with him?
l guess you're not smart enough to know how to read. l wrote "with no chargers" and batteries from chargers also run out. The situation remains as stated, adding different scenarios doesn't change the flaw of the device. Next time read before you reply.
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l guess you're not smart enough to know how to read.
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reason i have ipad
ps. calm down and be happy, dont take it literally... there is a sarcasm for example...
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