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Is it worth selling my wizzard for a kaiser

So I Wanted people with wizards to answer this so its not posted elsewhere..
I Currently have a Wizard that I have only had for a couple months & I Came across a kaiser for 100 bucks last night. Spec wise it seems to obliterate the wizard with 2x the processor speed & heaps more memory for both ram & rom.. But is it worth it..
Also if anyone has owned both how is the feel of a kaiser in your pocket compared to a wizard as I think the wiz is very bulky..

If it's only 100 bucks, why can't you have both?

rmcknight said:
If it's only 100 bucks, why can't you have both?
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cause I am married & my wife says so...

Maybe she needs a Wizard for her phone!

Kaiser is a better device hands down. If you can, i'd really keep both, but if you can't, definitely go for the Kaiser. You're getting a very nice price (considering it's in good condition) so go for it.

Well its official I am the proud owner of a Very Slightly used kaiser.. & yes I Do believe I Jsut about stole it at this price..
In fact I just got finished changing to my 1st non oem rom on it & its definitely the snappier device..
Also what would I Do with the wizard aside from let it sit as a backup phone? My wife doesn't want it because she prefers her much thinner Excalibur so its now for sale to recover what I paid for the kaiser.. Aside from that I Plan to get a G2 when they come out later this year so I Get some T-Mo 3g action here that is supposed to be being installed this month so the Kaider will be our backup device shortly anyway..
So if anyone wants to pay 100 bucks for a Wizard (t-mo usa flavor) let me know..

Fellow Titan Owners...

Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?

rleejr79 said:
Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Stick with WinMo and just upgrade to a TP2 or similar device (key is a bigger screen, at least 3.5" in the diagonal.)
Iphone or any phone on a non-WinMo operating system is a non-issue. Won't want to do without the Skyfire browser, for starters. The app WMWifiRouter is also important to me (turn phone into a wireless router accessible to multiple devices simultaneously.)
Iphone is too expensive to operate at this point - can't get an Iphone onto my $50 "unlimited everything" prepaid from Boost (Sprint CDMA) with unlimited 3G EVDO data. The same functionality I currently get out of my Titan for $50 a month would cost me around $200 a month on an Iphone plan.

Well I have been thinking about this lately...
My new every two year discount begins in December.
I could still use my Titan and wait for a Windows Mobile 7 device with a keyboard but not sure if I can wait that long.
I could get a Touch Pro 2 even though I wish there was a HD2 Pro instead.
Looking at the Pre and Droid as options too...
It's such a hard decision and hopfully there will be more leaked info on Windows Mobile 7.

Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. We'll see what it's like when it comes out. I need a mainly business focused device (active sync, calendar, contacts), not sure if the Droid will live up to it.
I'm also on the hunt for a new rom to flash to the Titan.. (been on an old dcd rom for a long time now).

Thanks for the reply george.
I am sorta in the same boat segadc. My NE2 is up with verizon. However the Pre, Droid and Hero sparked my curiousity equally as I think I may want to jump from WinMo. The worry for me is apps. In testing a friends new jailbroken iphone, the realm of apps is limitless. The Pre, drois and Hero all have good points about them but the recent info for Pre release on Vz Network is not until early 2010. I would like to see all three fisrt hand before I decide to stay with Vz or make a jump for the iphone.

dandaman96 said:
Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. .
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Same here. I would have had a TP2 by now if it was ever in stock. Then I started getting info on the droid and I am intrigued.
The business aspect is somewhat less important to me, so I am leaning android at this point. Though I will miss the htc tweaks...

Yeah I signed up for the Droid emails too. If I knew for sure when the first Windows Mobile 7 (with physical QWERTY) is arriving on Verizon, I would definetly stick with Windows Mobile...
Is the TP2 bigger then the Titan? I need to see some size comparisons.

The more I look at the Hero, the more I am a fan I think. I think the days of WinMo may have come to an end. With my NE2 up now and my contract up in Feb...stay with Vz or go to At&T with the iphone. Like I said, I am an app man but the Hero looks rather sweet.

dont buy an iphone

I was in the exact same situation as you. Out of contract and new every 2 available. Plus, VZ took an additional $100.00 off of the cost of any comperable device. I wanted the TP2 in the worst way, but they are unobtainium (except online for $675.00 ), so I got the Imagio, which I was told is an upgraded version of the TP2 without the keyboard. Not true. The TP2 does quite a few things that the Imagio does not.
Comparing the Titan to the TP2, the TP2 feels great in the hand. It is a little on the heavy side, but I like a device that feels solid. The contoured back is very ergonomic and the cooling holes provide for a nice textured feel that doesn't make me think that I'm about to drop it every seven seconds. I especially like the tilting screen. And once you use a phone with a 3.6 inch screen, you will not want to go back to the 2.8 inch on the Titan. Again, sadly the TP2 is not to be found.
The Hero looks good in specs, but so did the Imagio. If the Leo were to be available on VZ, I would certainly give that one a shot. The bottom line is that I am not happy with the Imagio and will most likely send it back. Then I will be right back in that boat with you.

What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?

yeah... Same here. I am ready to NE2 and I am a VIP member so the TP2 would cost 199.99 less 100 NE2 and less 50 for VIP. End cost $49.99 on line only (stores don't give the online discount of 100 or the vip discount). If I could find one. I called tech support and got to the higest level. I was told they have some in stock to replace defective units but not for sale. They wouldn't give me any idea as to when they would be in stock. Then they told me they would look into it and send me an email or txt msg. three days later I got a txt: and I quote "(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
So I guess I wait or jump ship.
I went to youtube and watched reviews for the imagio and the tp2 to compare. I was thinking to go to the imagio. But after watching both reviews, I decided NOT to get the imagio. If you want to watch them yourself type imagio and look for the review part 1 and part 2. Same with the TP2.... I think I'll go take a look at the droid specs.....

Just call everyday. They get small shipments pretty often.

I don't think I was really into the TP2 as I wanted something difft. I was a fan of the Hero previously until I saw Motorola's Droid. Though I need to see actual video reviews of the phone and test it out before I buy it, the Droid may be the way I go. I guess we will wait and see.

drewcam888 said:
What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
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The biggest thing for me is that the Imagio does not support the video out function. Everybody that I have talked to at VZW and HTC say that "It appears as though the Imagio should support video via accessory cable interface." "Looks" and "should" don't get the picture on my PICO.

thundaar2000 said:
"(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.

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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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If you can get the TP2, more power to you. For some reason, VZW says (online and in person) that they are out of stock and will not be getting any more. What part of the country are you in? Another user was able to find one in a San Francisco area store. You say that they are available online. When I go online (signed in or acting as a new customer) it says "NEW!" "out of stock".
Scratch that! I just went on Verizon's web site (I usually check it three of four times a day) and it shows the TP2 in stock!

Hmmm. Well, I think I'll be staying with the 6800 for a bit longer. I've looked at the new stuff, but the problem with the TP2 is that it hasn't got a port for an external antenna and where I work, if you don't have an external antenna, you aren't getting out.
Likewise, I like being able to use my phone as a modem for my laptop. Can't do that on the new Verizon phones, at least as far as I've seen (nor can I seem to get Vista to let me do it on my new laptop, but that's another issue.) The new phones are made for people who work in places where cell coverage is ubiquitous - and that's just not my situation.
For the above reason, obviously the iPhone is out too - though I have a patent loathing for the condescending Apple that precludes such a purchase anyway.

you can use something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499 to tether with most new phones.
I guess the external antenna is a downfall. But you could just buy a cell phone repeater amp and not need to plug something into your phone everyday. and you could walk around eaiser.

That's a thought - though I already had the antenna.
There's another link I can use! Thanks! This site is a goldmine of info!

TD2 to Pure or x1a, is it worth switching?

Hi guys, I'm currently using Diamond2 that I bought from Asia. So far there's nothing wrong with this phone and I liked it a lot.
However, my TD2 eats UMTS 900/2100 which is not compatible with 850/1900 that Rogers (from Canada) is providing. Hence I only have access to 2G/EDGE/GPRS and not 3G.
So, right now I'm thinking of two ways to get me on Rogers' 3G network:
Sell my TD2 (or simply pass it on to someone in my family) then buy a AT&T Pure from the US, or
Buy a Sony Ericsson x1a for 99.99 CAD (w/ 3yr contract) from Rogers then flash a ROM with Manila 2.5 in it
Either way I'll be spending around $100 CAD (sell low buy high for TD2)
I've done some research on Touch HD and HD2 (from Telstra) too, but I think the sizes are too big to fit into my jean's pocket nicely.
So what do you guys think? Any advices and suggestions?
PS: I just found a housing that is seems to be able to convert Pure into TD2
http://cgi.ebay.com/R999-Hot-Housing-Faceplate-black-for-AT-T-HTC-Pure_W0QQitemZ250574281543QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a57641b47

Hmm...
Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
I have the Pure and am currently running Duttys Holy Grail R7, and am digging it. Aesthetics are crap compared to the TD2.
Here's the thing though, and maybe its just me, but I ran my phone on EDGE for a good while, and noticed little real world difference in speed when compared to 3G. Maybe I'm just more patient then most, but if you already have a TD2, why pay more for the same phone? If you wanna buy a new handset, get a NEW handset, right?
Of course, if you do, I'd love to hear how that shell replacement goes. I don't think it'll work because the buttons on the Pure are different than the TD2, but what do I know?

I owned the X1 before and purchase Pure from Att recently as a cheap replacement since the digitizer went bad (but fixed myself now). I may a bit bias since I so used to my X1. But there are quite many advantages on X1 that make me missed my X1 so much in the period on using the Pure.
Here is the my order:
1. Hardware buttons!!! X1 has many more buttons for you to use (combine with AE button plus to give you a lot more functionality). Camera, left & right soft key, OK, Panel, and 5 ways optical buttons. They are especially handy when using X1 while driving (don't try it at home. ). Optical button make scrolling between song list extremely easy.
2. 3.5mm audio jack. Need me to say more? (Don't forget it works as TMC antenna too!)
3. keyboard. Typing is much easier on X1.
4. flashlight as torch.
5. U may notice I am a rom cook as well. At the moment, I still can't make iGo8's TTS works with under WM6.5 if Manila 2.5 is active (probably due to memory issue). A very similar build works on X1.
Here are the cons on X1.
1. Crack issue is real!!!
2. No G-sensor means I can't play teether.....
3. I like the flat screen on D2. The gap between the frame and the LCD traps many dirt on my X1..

Thanks for you guys' inputs
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Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
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This is not a problem for me because I've been using Rogers for more than 10 years, so right now Rogers is offering me a very discounted deal. If I want to move out of Canada or change carrier, I can just sell my plan to someone else.
To jackleung:
Before I bought my TD2, I was comparing it with x1 (no x1a at that moment). I've taken account of the pros and cons you've listed so that's why I chose TD2. But if I'm gonna buy a new x1a, I'll still be keeping my old TD2 (x1a for Canada, TD2 when I go back to Taiwan).
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So far my money is leaning towards the x1a because I'm not sure if I can live with the AT&T version of Topaz (some say it is very hard to convert the housing/shell) and jackleung reminded me the benefits that x1 has.
Anyways, I think I'll phone Rogers to see if they still have x1a in Vancouver area. Thanks again people.

Not worth it
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.

htc fan89 said:
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.
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This is nonsense. Spec of X1, D2 is almost identical. Custom roms makes a lot different on both X1 and D2.

Stick with HD2 or upgrade to Galaxy SII?

Hey all
I've just finished an 18 month contract with O2 for a HD2 - which I've just given a refresh with CyanogenMod.
Given contracts are 24 month minimum now for anything decent (free) - should I stick with the HD2 for 12 months on a cheapo sim free deal or upgrade to the SII?
Is it worth it?
Cheers

Upgrade mate i had a HD2 for a year and a half and a superb phone it was as well but this phone is unbeatable.
I bought mine outright as i hate being tied into long contracts never again.

As hardware goes, it is not worth it. SGS2 is about the same, except it is a lot lighter. As for software, well .. its different OS. All is different .. something better, something worse. It really depends what you use the phone for.

i will stick to HTC HD2 as it more solid case than SGS II...

Hmm.. The advantage of going sim only is I'm paying half as much for basically the same tariff - and with CyanogenMod NAND the HD2 is much much improved over running it off sd or windows bloody mobile 6.5.
Support for the HD2 isn't going anywhere anytime soon either is it?
And I don't have the money to buy the SGS2 outright - although I am off to Shanghai in about 3 weeks so I might find one there on the cheeap.

on what reasons mate? do you own both phones ? @miceormen
I think you should upgrade if you are technology freak like any of us owning a SGII

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As hardware goes, it is not worth it. SGS2 is about the same, except it is a lot lighter. As for software, well .. its different OS. All is different .. something better, something worse. It really depends what you use the phone for.
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Hardware is about the same? You do realize that hardware goes beyond the outer casing right? The SoC to start is a dual core ARM A9 compared to the first generation Snapdragon single core, with the ARM A9 alone offering about a 25% speed improvement per core compared to the Snapdragon. The GPU, a Mali 400, is miles better than the Adreno 200, which even the Power SGX 540 bested by at least three times. The screen size is the same, but the SGSII offers much better contrast and viewing angles with its Super Amoled Plus compared to the TFT LCD on the HD2. And this time around, no Pentile! The SGSII camera is much better than the HD2, no comparisons needed.
Samsung's software on the SGSII is actually superb and without lag, unlike its previous generations, and Touchwiz 4.0 actually offers quite an array of improvements to the standard AOSP Android. Take the butter smooth browser as an example.
Unless you truly want the next greatest (Nexus Prime or Tegra 3), then go for it. The Nexus Prime shouldn't offer a huge technological leap over the SGSII, but it does come with AOSP Android. However, heavy development for the SGSII should make up for updates in the case that Samsung chooses to move slowly (Samsung has improved drastically on its update schedules however).
I wouldn't hold on to the HD2 for long since the touchscreen digitzer is bound to fail over time, due to the power button applying pressure to the touchscreen ribbon connector.

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Hmm.. The advantage of going sim only is I'm paying half as much for basically the same tariff - and with CyanogenMod NAND the HD2 is much much improved over running it off sd or windows bloody mobile 6.5.
Support for the HD2 isn't going anywhere anytime soon either is it?
And I don't have the money to buy the SGS2 outright - although I am off to Shanghai in about 3 weeks so I might find one there on the cheeap.
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I sold my HD2 and an MP3 player to fund my purchase of the GS2 i wanted it that much, i have been in long mobile contracts before, it's worse in the UK 24 months now is usually the norm i was only on an 18 month one but too long and there's nothing you can do unless you pay off your contract,i missed out on some great deals in that time so i swore never again,a rolling monthly contract or PAYG is the only one for me now.
As regards the HD2, i wont have a bad word said against this amazing phone,probably the most "loved" device on XDA but it's time to move on to bigger and better things and it doesn't get much better than the GS2.

Fair enough. Well I think the best plan is to serve up an ultimatum to O2 who I've been with for 8 years and either get a fantastic 18 month SGS2 deal or keep my HD2 and get a Tesco sim. Customer loyalty doesn't seem to mean a great deal these days..

Check out giffgaff. 300 mins ultd text and data ten pounds a month. i had a hd2. played with it but never got it working quite right. got gs2 and its great. camera is soooooo much better. video is sooo much better. screen is amazing. nothing realy uses its power yeat. but that the same with all dual cores. actually started to prefer the feel of this phone. i go back to hd2 and it just feels really heavy and dated. im only paying 15 pounds a month on two year contract. 400 min 1gig ultd text. freeeeeee.

I upgraded to the S2 and I must say I love it. This beast is Blazing fast and I would not trade it in for anything else!
Best,
Sebkinne

But you had to by the SGS2 yourself right? Giffgaff is a sim only operator is it not..?

I thought u were going to tesco pay as u go and waiting. im on orange. the sales guy messed up and i got a great deal. giffgaff is just pay as u go. if u look on tech radar review it has a box saying about where to buy. there were some 18 month contracts for around 30 but u pay 100 for phone.

same problem
Hi Guys,
Having the same problem here, I am very happy with the HD2 with the Platinum ROM of Laurentius26, that I am scratching my head now what to do!
My question is more like stay with the HD2 (Platinum ROM), go with the Galaxy S2 or wait for the iphone5?
The reason is that I am going to receive 2 new Samsung Galaxy S2 via my provider. My initial idea was to sell them (unopened, unused = more money), stay with the HD2 for the moment and wait for the iphone5 to buy and try out. But now I am reading everywhere that the GS2 is such a magnificent device, and I am starting to doubt. Together with the fact that the HD2 is working perfectly for me, but, being a technician, would like to check out the latest.
I am using my device mainly for:
- calling (of course, but good call quality is important)
- SMS (with Swype, absolutely)
- TomTom (I have heard Sygnic is similar, but have a hard time leaving TT)
- Flashlight (unbelievable how many times I am using the flash as a light)
- camera and video (shooting and viewing)
- syncing with Outlook ( a must, but push email is not needed)
- web browsing every now and then
What do you think?

Upgrade, I gave my HD2 to my Dad and bought a SGS2. Definitely worth the upgrade, in the end the HD2 is not a native Android phone and there will always be some issues.
Sent from my GT-I9100

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, in the end the HD2 is not a native Android phone and there will always be some issues.
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Ha, but this might be the issue, the Platinum ROM is soo made for the HD2, I couldn't even be bothered to try out Android or Win7 on the HD2... yep, the ROM is Win6.5

The best thing i done was get rid of WIN 6.5 on my old HD2 and put NAND Android on it, the HD2 should have been an Android handset from the start.

I love my HD2, but this phone is far better in every way, I got my GS2 for 18 month contract, only 21 quid a month, god bless 02 customer loyalty!top deal

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Upgrade, I gave my HD2 to my Dad and bought a SGS2. Definitely worth the upgrade, in the end the HD2 is not a native Android phone and there will always be some issues.
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not agree with that, I got less issues with my NAND droid rom on my HD2, then with my GS2, infact its flawless my HD2!

I was a loyal Windows Mobile user since 2003. Had several devices and only the HD2 could live somewhat up to being a really usable device. I had tested Android on my Blackstone and there it was like WinMo nearly unusable. So when I tried out Android on my HD2 simply because I was bored and wanted to see what my device could do, I was surprised. It was faster and more stable than any WinMo device/Rom combo I have ever used. Many features didn't work, but it didn't matter to me. Since then I have become an Android fan, since it is much more user friendly, stable, faster, looks better and has better support for new apps. Never went back to WinMo besides updating quickGPS. Now Android works nearly flawless on the HD2. But I decided to get a SGS2 from ebay, since it has a better screen, camera (It's really muuuuch better) and media playback capabilities.(including HDMI) In everyday usage it isn't really faster than my HD2 since that would be nearly impossible. But another aspect I didn't consider would prevent me from switching back now : The weight. It feels much better in the hand, especially if you are reading a book or surf for a long time. And everything just works out of the box. I nevertheless got a custom ROM with root and switched to ADW launcher since I got accustomed to their benefits on my HD2. Will switch to CyanigenMod as soon as codecs, OTG and MHL are fully working. But considering that these are all features the HD2 does not have, I would say CM is as far as it is on the HD2. Also the HD2 isn't sturdier than the HD2. My HD2 can be twisted and there is a gap between case and battery cover. My SGS2 does not have these problems.
In the end I would say the choice depends on your preferences and money. When I looked at eBay 2 weeks ago, the HD2s with similar or worse conditions then mine got prices from 200-250€ min. I bought it 1.5 years ago for 350€. Now I bought my SGS2 for 450€(that was the Max price I was ready to pay). When I get around to it, I will sell my HD2 and I won't regret it. I had a great time with it and there probably will never be a phone which was it's time that much ahead(there are many new devices inferior to the HD2, in fact pretty much everything up to the release of the SGS2 wasn't much of an improvement if any at all) and could break the software restrictions (thanks to the community) that much. But everything has an expiration date. And for tech junkies that has been reached for the HD2, I think.
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[Q] Worth to buy HD2, yet? ~ $450 :D

Hello.
I'm a computer student, a poor computer student! who can change his phone every 2 years! I earn money with hard student working. It's time to change now, I've a (crappy) LG Arena KM900 for 2 years and I cant really ignore this piece of wasted money anymore. Short story...
Is it reasonable to buy a HD2 for about 450 USD?! Here I can find used HD2 for $330 too but who cares, I can't trust other people (and their great used phone!).
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Another option is Galaxy S, I9000 with exactly 455 USD, no used one found. Now what you think? I can also have a Moto Milestone (used) for $290. Here we don't access to int postal & payment services so just forget amazon, ebay and...
- I've enjoyed changing my Arena theme with some geeky tricks! so HD2 with all of this roms and os selections...
- I'm afraid of HD2 production to be stopped and I miss my dreams phone! else I really don't care of new phones with 8 cpu cores or 12mp cameras!
- My current phone dpesn't have bluetooth PAN ability which is used for using phone internet connection on PC. does HD2 have this?
- I'm a fan of wp7, can I count on HD2 with this os? what about battery life?!
- is is reaaly so BIG that I can't put it in my jeans pocket?
Thanks you

Hello,
First of all,
-Yes, the HD2 does have bluetooth PAN.
-WP7 has some bugs on the HD2 which briefly are:
+*Multitouch does not work properly.
+*Compass is not working with Mango (until now).
+*There seems to be a lot of people struggling with the battery life. (however I have not had that).
+*The speaker's sound is horrible.
-It's big when you are using it, and small when you are to put it into your pocket (it's not that big).
Also, you have to be aware of two things:
The HD2 has two major issues, one being the touchscreen, some devices lose their touchscreens after an amount of time.
The second thing is, the End button may wear off for frequent use or become too hard to press, and sometimes this may also cause the screen to become unresponsive.
(correct me if I'm wrong)
My opinion,
For a two years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .

You can get a used HTC HD2 for ~$150 and ship it to wherever you live

Marvlesz said:
My opinion,
For an almost 3 years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
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Not so old, sir! It released 2009 november, so it's exactly 2 years old...

pappt said:
Not so old, sir! It released 2009 november, so it's exactly 2 years old...
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You are correct. However, I counted it as 2009 YOP and now we are almost 2012.

More like $200.00 I STILL HAVE MINE EXACTLY 2YRS OLD

Marvlesz said:
Hello,
First of all,
-Yes, the HD2 does have bluetooth PAN.
-WP7 has some bugs on the HD2 which briefly are:
+*Multitouch does not work properly.
+*Compass is not working with Mango (until now).
+*There seems to be a lot of people struggling with the battery life. (however I have not had that).
+*The speaker's sound is horrible.
-It's big when you are using it, and small when you are to put it into your pocket (it's not that big).
Also, you have to be aware of two things:
The HD2 has two major issues, one being the touchscreen, some devices lose their touchscreens after an amount of time.
The second thing is, the End button may wear off for frequent use or become too hard to press, and sometimes this may also cause the screen to become unresponsive.
(correct me if I'm wrong)
My opinion,
For a two years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
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Thank you, very useful answer
So you say if I buy an unused device then take care of that then still I may have problems with screen & buttons?
Let's make it clear, I'm on my decide for HD2, it's about one whole year that I'm reading reviews and following software improvements... this topic is actually a try to forget all those fresh and stylish gadgets
But! if you think HD2 will disappoint me then which phone should I buy instead? to me SGS is also attractive, you know, because of it's roms & customizations + great hardware.
Should I forget HD2 because of it's old hardware and expensive price in my country? then I think it's better to wait and buy a NOW DAYS phone when I have enough money?! or you have a better offer...?
More like $200.00 I STILL HAVE MINE EXACTLY 2YRS OLD
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and you're still happy with this monster?
if you were me then what?

Hey myview.ir ,
i bought my own HD2 5 days ago for 230 $ on Ebay.
It was declared as "nearly new without any scratches".
Windows Mobile gave out a compleate speaking time of 5 Minutes!
Go out and search a nice looking HD2 on Ebay, buy it with Paypal and you'll be happy with it (of course, install Android 2.35 with Sense like this one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298188 ).
I'm a "poor" student too - so don't waste your money for buying things like new smartphones

I also bought mine for 230$ Its really great phone I moved from SE x10 just one week ago. I took me like 1 day to learn how to install, modify nand to be able to install android but I figured it out and when I saw rom with sense 3.5 for the first time ever I said it was the best move I could do Hd2 has much bigger community and roms works much better :] Already installed shadowgun and guest what? It works really great smooth and fast so the question is why wouldn't I love this phone?

thank you Cadilac & sab3r
I'm in love with this device, mainly because of of that it's not a phone like any others, yes my friend recently bought a shiny xperia arc s wich is really great looking and he is so happy with that but I'm not of that type! It's vivid, anyone who stayed with HD2 has a reason and it's freedom, oh ah :]
ok. Shopping from ebay is a normal thing for you, but here in my country if you want to have a $100 paypal payment then you have to pay $130! we don't have paypal or visa or master here, whoahh :\
prepareing for $450 deal
I'm crazy. huh!

This is an amazing phone, after 18 months I still don't want to change it despite being an early adopter in most things (which is always tough on my low salary!). I'd definitely recommend this phone, but as others say, look at the $230-250 range of prices. Good luck!
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Love my HD2. Best phone ever!!!!!!!! Recently broke my phone. Got a new one for $150. Cant bet that......lol

Also got to say - love this phone - play with it more than I use it!
Also dropped it a few times, cracked the small glass covering the camera lens but it seems to take better photos now.

450$ is far too much. I bought it new 340€ last year at a mall
less than 300$ can be reasonable.

Ok!
Thank you all, I'm still in love. Some people said to me about battery problems with HD2, compared to i9000 sgs. My current phone is horrible on this field and if HD2 has a weak battery then it's deal breaker for me! I know, it's a smartphone with massive screen and some energy eater parts inse but lets compare it to other HTC devices, like dhd or newer sensation...
and yeah, "berrutti" said that it's too much for a dated gadget. I don't know, maybe best thing I can do is going to the city shop and ask both HD2 & i9000 and play with them some minutes then trust my feel! I's hard to decide, fresh young device with well-known old hero.

XDA-Developers Market Forum
I bought a used T-Mobile HD2 right here on the XDA-Developers Market Forum for US$200, which included shipping. I suggest you try this as you can be fairly sure about who you are dealing with and their trustworthiness.

Because of my location any worlwide service will cost so much, if I want a used HD2 with $250 then it will finish $370 for me!
I've found some local used devices which doesn't have any additional cost, bust I don't know sellers! here I've listed them:
- HD2 with one year of usage, price: ~ $320
additional tools: 2 batteries & 8GB memory card
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2795
- HD2 with 2 years of usage, price: ~ $345
additional tools: TV cable & case
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2805
- Samsung galaxy S with 4 months of usage, price: ~ $370
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2804
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so,
I'm thinking!

myview.ir said:
Because of my location any worlwide service will cost so much, if I want a used HD2 with $250 then it will finish $370 for me!
I've found some local used devices which doesn't have any additional cost, bust I don't know sellers! here I've listed them:
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I'm thinking!
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It still might be worth your time to put an ad on the XDA-Developers Market Forum, as this is a worldwide forum, and just like you, not all members are in the US. There is a chance you could find someone in Ireland, or nearby in Europe, who has an HD2, and then your shipping charges would not be so high.

HD 2
I was very much like you and when i eventualy got my HD2 I wished I had done it sooner. It is the ultimate in customisation have broken the first one my fault i had to buy a replacement straight away that was a month ago . I didnt even consider any other phone. Just try to get a good price and see who has got one here it is international here look at the signatures
Mark

If you're in the US, try cowboom. I just bought a used one from there for $130US. the price increased to $140 a day later.
2 minor scratches on top. Buttons look worn out only if you look at it very closely. otherwise, it looks perfectly fine. I put WP7 on it and it's amazing. Also works a zune player (similar interface). runs as smooth if not smoother than my brand new htc sensation with android.