Refurbished G1? - G1 General

I might be getting a replacement G1. Many people already have, but they only replace it with a refurbished one. What is the condition of them?

If you are with in your 14 day period, you should be getting a brand new one. If you are beyond that, you will get a refurb. In my past experience, refurbs through tmobile looked just like new ones (they probably put a fresh casing on them after they fix the internals).

I got a refurbished g1 and I couldn't tell that it wasn't new.

SolemnWishing said:
I might be getting a replacement G1. Many people already have, but they only replace it with a refurbished one. What is the condition of them?
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ive had 2 replacements... i never knew they wher refurbished until now... lol

Refurbs go through a lot more testing than new units do and they normally put new casings on refurbs.

Something someone who worked for Seagate once told me... what THEY do for the refurbs is this; they take everything off until all they are left with is the disk body, then they strip and repaint the body and install all new guts and cover and slap on a sticker with a green line that says "refurbished". In other words, its a new disk with one non-critical used piece so they can legitimately call it a refurb. The entire point of doing this is that it becomes false advertising to RESELL it AS NEW... even though it is. I suspect that most electronics manufacturers do some variation of this.

Im on my 5th one. The biggest problem was a blown speaker.

lbcoder said:
Something someone who worked for Seagate once told me... what THEY do for the refurbs is this; they take everything off until all they are left with is the disk body, then they strip and repaint the body and install all new guts and cover and slap on a sticker with a green line that says "refurbished". In other words, its a new disk with one non-critical used piece so they can legitimately call it a refurb. The entire point of doing this is that it becomes false advertising to RESELL it AS NEW... even though it is. I suspect that most electronics manufacturers do some variation of this.
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What is the point of all that? Why not just send out a brand new product to the consumer then?

What comes in the box when you get a refurb phone? charger? another case??
Anyone know?

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the hero is defective, i have proof!

i know how the dust in getting in our phones, there is a defective seal between the body & the lcd. how do i have proof? i went to install a screen protector today and the solution leaked underneath the lcd and leaves staining and a fog. i had to put my hero in a bag of dry rice to preserve & dry it. no other phone i have had, had this issue when installing a screen protector, im only using a small amount of water spray too, not a ton.
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I hope you got pictures, and then called your lawyer!!
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come on man, im serious here, this is an issue that htc should of fixed. they wouldn't sell those screen protectors to damage your phone. i only used a very small amount of the spray they provide, you have to use the credit card to squeeze the bubbles out.
fixxxer2008 said:
come on man, im serious here, this is an issue that htc should of fixed. they wouldn't sell those screen protectors to damage your phone.
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I actually agree, for some reason I am just unable to pass up an opportunity to give you $h1t
Fortunately I have been one of the lucky few who have no dust under my screen and my call/end button paint shows no wear at all. My hero looks as new today as it did on 3/12/2009 when I got it.
I was serious though about getting photographic documentation, not sure what you would do with it but if you ad an opportunity to tell someone who could do something about it you would be glad you took the pics (ie, emailing someone at htc or sprint, or even proving the defect to customer service in order to get a replacement)
*edit- You bought the screen protector from HTC? I put a full zagg shield on mine a couple months ago and was very paranoid about the solution getting down in the crack between the bottom of the screen and the button plate but I was lucky, no problems.
nebenezer said:
I actually agree, for some reason I am just unable to pass up an opportunity to give you $h1t
Fortunately I have been one of the lucky few who have no dust under my screen and my call/end button paint shows no wear at all. My hero looks as new today as it did on 3/12/2009 when I got it.
I was serious though about getting photographic documentation, not sure what you would do with it but if you ad an opportunity to tell someone who could do something about it you would be glad you took the pics (ie, emailing someone at htc or sprint, or even proving the defect to customer service in order to get a replacement)
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i may give sprint a call tonight, just upsets me is all. i love the phone but damn i didn't need this today. come to think of it, i may give htc a ring, im sure they must be aware of this, maybe i can get a new phone from them?
fixxxer2008 said:
i may give sprint a call tonight, just upsets me is all. i love the phone but damn i didn't need this today.
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dude, I think you need some perspective. You have insurance, right? Forget the deductible, if you go in and use the correct words in the correct order you can easily walk out with a brand new phone... just saying.
nebenezer said:
dude, I think you need some perspective. You have insurance, right? Forget the deductible, if you go in and use the correct words in the correct order you can easily walk out with a brand new phone... just saying.
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probably, yes.... i just checked the phone and the fog is gone but there is a highly noticeable water stain under the lcd at the top left corner of the phone. im trying to dry it out as we speak. too late to go to sprint today but i may call them and htc to see what they are willing to do. i assume the invisible shields do not void your warranty at all since some sprint stores & best buy carry them?
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probably, yes.... i just checked the phone and the fog is gone but there is a highly noticeable water stain under the lcd at the top left corner of the phone. im trying to dry it out as we speak. too late to go to sprint today but i may call them and htc to see what they are willing to do. i assume the invisible shields do not void your warranty at all since some sprint stores & best buy carry them?
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The experience you had today will in no way void your warranty unless you let it. You are the customer, be a customer who's business they want to keep and they will bend over backwards to help you, I have proven this theory many times
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ok, it should of been fixed the minute they knew about the dust getting under there. i think i have proof of a defective seal, when a small amount of spray causes staining & fog underneath. i just called htc and their warranty department is closed, figures!
fixxxer2008 said:
probably, yes.... i just checked the phone and the fog is gone but there is a highly noticeable water stain under the lcd at the top left corner of the phone. im trying to dry it out as we speak. too late to go to sprint today but i may call them and htc to see what they are willing to do. i assume the invisible shields do not void your warranty at all since some sprint stores & best buy carry them?
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Eh...good luck. You've got water underneath your screen via a third party screen protective solution.
The liquid wouldnt have entered your screen had you not administered it. Water can creep through even the smallest of openings.
I highly doubt things are going to work in your favor if you enter a Sprint store. I'm not aware of any corporate Sprint location that advocates a screen solution that requires even the smallest amount of liquid since liquid damage is something that must be handled by the insurance company, Asurion, that many wireless providers work through.
Its worth a shot. Just dont be completely disappointed if the Sprint store doesnt respond in your favor.
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Eh...good luck. You've got water underneath your screen via a third party screen protective solution.
The liquid wouldnt have entered your screen had you not administered it. Water can creep through even the smallest of openings.
I highly doubt things are going to work in your favor if you enter a Sprint store. I'm not aware of any corporate Sprint location that advocates a screen solution that requires even the smallest amount of liquid since liquid damage is something that must be handled by the insurance company, Asurion, that many wireless providers work through.
Its worth a shot. Just dont be completely disappointed if the Sprint store doesnt respond in your favor.
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Sprint stores as well as Best Buy both install screen protectors, so I doubt that would be an issue.
Umm...not to be rude here, but that's been a known issue for a while. It's not new. Anyone who's had the dust issue (myself included) has known about the seal under the screen leaking.
Yes it's defective. If you put up enough of a fuss they'll replace it with a refurb which will likely have the same problem.
I'm one of the lucky ones. I bought mine at best buy, got it replaced, and haven't had the problem since. It appears HTC had a bad batch (well a lot of them, really) for about 6-8 months. They fixed the problem after that, but the good ones are mixed in with the old ones. It's a crapshoot as to whether you'll get one without a dust problem.
I always get screen protectors that have built in sticky solution. never had the dust problem either.
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I'll just put it like this, its not that I don't believe people are having these issues its just that they are exaggerating it completely out of proportion.
I have a Htc Hero(With Google) made in 2009, came with the 1.56 RUU Installed. I have 1 (READ 1) dead pixel on my entire screen, the case has no paint chips, no dust under the screen, buttons show no wear(its not paint...), my speakers work and sound great, I get a full signal in 90% of places, Calls never drop, hardware is fast if you know what your doing and tweak it, you can run 2.1 perfectly if you know what your doing, no battery issues whatsoever.
So yeah... a dead pixel... I'm completely returning my hero to Sprint for that. (not)
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I also have a dead pixel. And I'm not returning it for that reason, either.
But I feel I need to set you straight on a few issues.
#1. The dust issue is real. While I personally didn't wait until I had half my screen covered with it to replace it, I've seen pics (here I believe) where the phone is virtually unusable due to the dust. I had a small amount of dust. But why shouldn't I return it? Why should I spend a bunch of money on a defective piece of hardware? If it's not properly functioning when brand new I'm returning it. Which is what I did, and lucked out.
#2. Button wear. I've never had this problem (only had the phone a couple of months) but my wife has. Whether it's paint, or dye, or what have you, those things can and do flake. There are also images of it on these forums if you search for them.
#3. Never had a speaker problem.
#4. You seem to be extremely fortunate about where you live/drive/work then. Because signal issues happen if you do any travelling.
#5. I don't get people with battery problems either. I have the stock battery and can go all day (12-14 hours) and use 50% or less of the battery.
Anyhow, I doubt the people that are having the issues you mention are exaggerating, and at least in the case of the flaking buttons and dust I know from experience they're as bad as people make it out to be.
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Sprint stores as well as Best Buy both install screen protectors, so I doubt that would be an issue.
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exactly, plus they sell them as well. it wouldn't void my warranty under water damage because the water indicator sticker is intact and there are no signs of water damage. i doubt a small amount of solution would seep under the screen unless it was defective. im about to call sprint and demand a brand new hero or a samsung moment as im on my 3rd phone now. besides the fact the 3rd phone they sent me was suppose to be new and it's a refurb with over 700 calls made from it. im really about to not buy htc or sprint anymore and maybe move to another carrier.
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Sprint stores as well as Best Buy both install screen protectors, so I doubt that would be an issue.
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I'm not aware of any corporate Sprint Store that would install a screen protector that uses any form of a liquid. The screen protectors that Sprint stores sell are a stick film. Nothing that requires liquid to apply.
Best Buy stores do sell and install these...but you're not going to Best Buy for a replacement unit generally. I'm sure they'll turn you away.
well forget sprint, they said the most that will happen is to give me another refurbish, they need to all be on the same page. some say you get new phones and some say they give you used ones. after 3 phones im entitled to a new one or another comparable model. so i guess my last hope is to call htc on monday, after that im dropping my contract and going to t-mobile or verizon. maybe the issue is they give people used phones and not new ones, they need to start backing up their warranties because it seems to me they are just cheap as hell.
fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but it's a legit complaint, im not just ranting. the dust & seal issue are known issues on the net. to me sprint just doesn't care about their customers. every one of their workers give you different answers, no one is on the same page.
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Had the phone since day -2 and have yet to have one speck of dust under the screen yet. And mines the without google branding. You probably just need to stop whining or stop messing up YOUR phone =P
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exactly, plus they sell them as well. it wouldn't void my warranty under water damage because the water indicator sticker is intact and there are no signs of water damage. i doubt a small amount of solution would seep under the screen unless it was defective. im about to call sprint and demand a brand new hero or a samsung moment as im on my 3rd phone now. besides the fact the 3rd phone they sent me was suppose to be new and it's a refurb with over 700 calls made from it. im really about to not buy htc or sprint anymore and maybe move to another carrier.
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Who said you were entitled to a "New" Hero? Did you get it through insurance? If not, then you're not entitled to a "New" Hero.
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Who said you were entitled to a "New" Hero? Did you get it through insurance? If not, then you're not entitled to a "New" Hero.
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all replacements were done through sprint and my 2nd one was a brand new phone. the tech told me last week that if my 3rd one acts up im entitled to a another compatible phone model such as the moment. now they are telling me something different. to me the $7 insurance i pay for every month is apparently worthless.
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all replacements were done through sprint and my 2nd one was a brand new phone. the tech told me last week that if my 3rd one acts up im entitled to a another compatible phone model such as the moment. now they are telling me something different. to me the $7 insurance i pay for every month is apparently worthless.
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Yep the 3 phones for virtually nothing compared to how much you would of had to pay.
Why do we even bother with the $7?

Manufacture Defect?...EDIT: It was and im getting a new phone:)

Okay, so i noticed a few months back that the hinge on the camera side on my camera didnt fit properly. And it slid around very badly. I took it to the Verizon store and they barely looked over it and told me i could buy a case for my phone. I took it again a couple weeks ago...they told me that it looked like a hinge broke on my back cover, and they again told me i could buy i case-__-....So, i didnt buy a case, but i ordered a replacement back...and low and behold THE SAME PROBLEM...I do admit that the replacement does fit a bit more snug, but still doesnt fit into place in that corner.
I did notice that the hinge on the back cover doesnt meet up directly with the hinge on the back of the phone which means it has to be a problem with the way the phone was manufactured, because theres no way i can get two different back covers with the same defect!
I attached a pic....do any others have this issue?....cuz im not really sure if i should argue with Verizon at this point.
-I was planning on selling my Incredible next year to get a new phone...most likely this one http://androinica.com/2010/08/07/le...e-for-verizon-wireless-gets-caught-on-camera/
-And this manufacture defect lowers my resale value.
-Also im afraid they will try and argue with me, because i dropped my phone and have a cosmetic flaw on that side...so it kind of looks bad if you know what i mean.
-What do you guys think?
-You will also notice where it looks chewed up, thats a result of me dropping my phone, however...that happened long after i noticed the defect and long after i told Verizon about it...so they arent related issues at all
>>>>>I talked to the store reps and they documented it this time and that the warranty will send me a new one
Have you thought about getting a red original cover for it on ebay? Maybe that will make the resale more attractive.
I've always had one of those silicone cases on mine, but having to remote/reinsert my battery earlier I happen to have it off right now. Mine seems to fit well around the entire phone, though it did start coming off easier than I would've thought as I was removing the case earlier. I definitely don't have your problem though.
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Have you thought about getting a red original cover for it on ebay? Maybe that will make the resale more attractive.
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Dont have that kind of money x)...im only 17 and my parents wouldnt pay $100 for it...but that doesnt help my issue...im just wondering if i should take it back or not
the way i feel about it is that my lowered resale value should be a result of my own faults...i.e the me dropping it....but it shouldnt be lowered because of the manufacturer
not only that, it makes me feel uncomfortable that it wont be as sturdy or anything...which i already know thats the case
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I've always had one of those silicone cases on mine, but having to remote/reinsert my battery earlier I happen to have it off right now. Mine seems to fit well around the entire phone, though it did start coming off easier than I would've thought as I was removing the case earlier. I definitely don't have your problem though.
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Thanks...so do you think i should complain?...im kind of mixed about this...because my phone works perfectly fine...but then i have my feeling like what i posted above, my lowered resale value should be my fault not a result of a mis-manufactured phone
schwartzman93 said:
Thanks...so do you think i should complain?...im kind of mixed about this...because my phone works perfectly fine...but then i have my feeling like what i posted above, my lowered resale value should be my fault not a result of a mis-manufactured phone
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With the money that Verizon is making off of us, I don't see why you shouldn't complain. What's the worst thing that could happen?
lamusician said:
With the money that Verizon is making off of us, I don't see why you shouldn't complain. What's the worst thing that could happen?
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Idk, lol...i just hate dealing with reps that dont know ****...and also the lady at the warranty service told me that if i send it in and they determine i broke the phone. That i would be charged full retail price.
Why does the plastic on the front of that corner look all chewed up? It looks as though someone were prying it with something sharp and did a careless job.
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Why does the plastic on the front of that corner look all chewed up? It looks as though someone were prying it with something sharp and did a careless job.
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I dropped my phone...but that happend after i discovered the defect and showed it to the VZW store.
-I know it kind of looks bad on my record now...but im going to talk to the manager and tell him that the reps didnt document the other 3 times i came in when the lady on the warranty service said they should have
I'm sorry but that does not look like a defect. If it only happened after you dropped your phone, it's clear that there is some sort of correlation. These things don't happen randomly without some sort of mishandling.
I've had my phone since the day before release (got it a day early thanks to Fedex) and it looks pristine. Next time you should invest in a case which will help protect your phone and avoid stuff like this from happening.
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I'm sorry but that does not look like a defect. If it only happened after you dropped your phone, it's clear that there is some sort of correlation. These things don't happen randomly without some sort of mishandling.
I've had my phone since the day before release (got it a day early thanks to Fedex) and it looks pristine. Next time you should invest in a case which will help protect your phone and avoid stuff like this from happening.
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I said the I dropped my phone after I showed them the defect...but its all taken care of...it took it to the store and they documented it and they said warranty would send me a new one
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It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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I probably clean my phone 10 times an hour, and a full polish twice a day.
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I probably clean my phone 10 times an hour, and a full polish twice a day.
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Thank you for making me feel half-way normal! lol
dude call *611 for a refurb.
Umm shouldn't you have complained when it was new?
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Umm shouldn't you have complained when it was new?
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If you read in the OP...i complained three different times...but each time they looked at it for a minute and told me i the broke cover...AND THEY DIDNT Document it....I tried a second time...they looked at it for a minute DIDNT DOCUMENT!...and they told me oh well you can call the warranty people, but it just looks like you broke the broke the back cover, you can buy a case if you want...so i called the warranty people and they told me that the workers should have documented it...so, i went a third time and they did and said the same thing each time...So, i bought a replacement back...AND IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE...which means it was the main part of my phone, not the back cover...and so i took it to the store and told them to do a thorough inspection and they even tested my back covers on their phones and both my back covers fit perfectly...so he showed his manager and they documented it and told me to call the warenty people and they should send me a new one...so im satisfied
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It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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Thats exactly the way i feel...while its great to have a case and it is recommended....ITS NOT NEEDED, and i dont want to pay money for something i dont 100% NEED...And im glad it didnt get to the point where i had to argue that with them...like i said, theyre gonna send me a new phone, so im happy
I think the most funny thing about all of this, is Im part Jewish, and that side of me came out today...because one of my main concerns was resale value...so my dad told me i Jewed Verizon, lol
--If you catch my drift
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Thats exactly the way i feel...while its great to have a case and it is recommended....ITS NOT NEEDED, and i dont want to pay money for something i dont 100% NEED...And im glad it didnt get to the point where i had to argue that with them...like i said, theyre gonna send me a new phone, so im happy
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I'm happy it worked out for you.
I did exactly what I shouldn't have done and bought a gel case - though I wanted one anyway.
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Go on with yo Jew self. Part-Jew self.
Whatever, You made me laugh.

Just Got N10, Seal Broken

Jus received my N10, bought from a 3rd party who sells it through Amazon (NOT a used product, so all of Amazon's policies apply to this purchase), and there's a seal that says:
"if this seal has been broken or tampered with..."
And it's obviously broken. The N10 itself looks and smells brand new, should I return it immediately and not take any chances? Or are broken seals really a non-issue?
If it has no light bleed and everything else is perfect I wouldn't. I would keep it lol
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If you bought it new and the seal is broke, wouldn't that void any warranty down the road if the unit fails? Unless this is just the seal on the box itself.
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If you bought it new and the seal is broke, wouldn't that void any warranty down the road if the unit fails? Unless this is just the seal on the box itself.
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How would they know that the seal was broken?
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How would they know that the seal was broken?
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After reading it again, wasn't sure if it was a seal on the tablet or on the box. If it was on the box, it's no issue.
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After reading it again, wasn't sure if it was a seal on the tablet or on the box. If it was on the box, it's no issue.
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Yea, the seal was on the box. I kinda figured it was just one of those things that companies say but don't really mean crap.
Kinda like how when I tell a customer at work, "Your refund should be credited to your account in 5-7 business days," when in actuality the refund arrives the very next day or 2 for them
I saw this discussed on another thread, possibly on another site. The concensus was that the exact boxes and the exact stickers create a situation where the seals rip during shipping.
I had to RMA my unit last month, and the new one I got did not have the sticker seals broken, but they were stressed. It was easy to see how they could get ripped just in shipment.
My guess is that is what happened...
I would politely but firmly complain *immediately* and request a swap-out. You paid for a new device. If the seal is broken, you have no way of knowing if you're getting a new device, or a refurb -- and if you have a refurb, there's every chance there's a good reason somebody returned it.
I guess it all depends how patient you are. This is an expensive device, I would personally not take that risk.

Need a hardware expert!

Ive been living with a stupid freaking blackberry style for the past 2 months. I CANT TAKE IT ANYMOREEEE I want my evo back sooo badly but no matter what I do to repair, nothing works. I have been working on this for a while now.
3 digitizers and lcd's have been used. My problem right now is that i believe that the digitizer port is somehow messed up. The annoying thing is that sometimes, randomly, the digitizer/touch panel will work and the phone will work perfectly. Which is what happened a couple of days ago after i finally got a new lcd after some wait and everything was going perfect until it happened again. What happens is that in hboot i get a touch panel fail, the phone will not boot past splash, and recovery is inacessible. If i remove the digitizer cable altogether it will boot and it will let me go to recovery. I have tried the 2 others i have and rarely, one will work.
You guys have ANY ideas? I tried cleaning with 91 alcohol and that didnt help.
PLEASEEEE I miss my 3 year old child.
EDIT and yes i am up at 4 like i have been to fix my evo
ebay.
i know fixing it by hand is a path you have gone a long way down and if that's something fun for you (and I realize it is for some) by all means keep on going down that path.
but times have changed from the days when evos were $450 on ebay.
now you will probably pay less for a mint condition clean esn evo than you would for all the parts you described, to say nothing of the value of your time.
i have personally repaired front speakers, rear speakers, camera lenses and digitizers/LCD assemblies, just about everything but the vibrator. i once loved tearing apart evos. but now i just buy evos whole.
intermittent connection problems are the worst. do you really want to spend more late nights fighting this thing? craigslist, ebay, swappa, whatever. get this behind you.
100% what NxNW said.
If it is in fact the connector on the board, then this will be no fun at all. The solder points on that are far too much work AND risk for the reward. Although, you can find a good board, just the board alone. Same part# as the one you got and just exchange whatever it needs, if anything. But it really is better to ebay the whole device. I got one for under $12 that needed a new charge port. Another buck and some soldering and BOOM.
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100% what NxNW said.
If it is in fact the connector on the board, then this will be no fun at all. The solder points on that are far too much work AND risk for the reward. Although, you can find a good board, just the board alone. Same part# as the one you got and just exchange whatever it needs, if anything. But it really is better to ebay the whole device. I got one for under $12 that needed a new charge port. Another buck and some soldering and BOOM.
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You guys are right; just looked on ebay and theirs mobo's on here auctioning with no bids. 20$ for a fully functional one? Ill take it!
Thanks for the advice
my very quick survey of recent "completed auctions" for plausible looking phones with clean ESN's shows the current price for a non-janky Evo you could just activate and use as-is is around $60
i am seeing a range of $40 to $100 depending on whether it is in below average condition on the low end, or pristine condition plus some accessories on the high end.
basically 60 bucks for a ready-to-go evo with just a battery, no charger or usb cable, possibly no sd card.
a lot of auctions with reserve prices of $70 and higher are closing with the seller not getting any bids that meet the reserve.
on the flip side if you are "winning" an auction at $20, that phone is just "for parts".
actually i have bought phones described as "for parts" that *already* had parts harvested from it (usually the USB/charing port). sometimes you just get a picked-over carcass.
if the description doesn't *say* clean ESN, it's not. i even had to send back an evo once because the ESN was bad even though the seller said it was ok. they refunded my money claiming someone *else* told them it was clean. whatever. ebay can be a hassle but there's an endless supply of cheap clean evos out there, you just have to be observant.
If the seller is in your area, I would also HIGHLY suggest meeting them in person at a Sprint store to activate it on your line. I have seen dozens of posts in the S3 forums recently about people getting stuck with a blacklisted phone because the seller reported it stolen after selling it to them. So beware.
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my very quick survey of recent "completed auctions" for plausible looking phones with clean ESN's shows the current price for a non-janky Evo you could just activate and use as-is is around $60
i am seeing a range of $40 to $100 depending on whether it is in below average condition on the low end, or pristine condition plus some accessories on the high end.
basically 60 bucks for a ready-to-go evo with just a battery, no charger or usb cable, possibly no sd card.
a lot of auctions with reserve prices of $70 and higher are closing with the seller not getting any bids that meet the reserve.
on the flip side if you are "winning" an auction at $20, that phone is just "for parts".
actually i have bought phones described as "for parts" that *already* had parts harvested from it (usually the USB/charing port). sometimes you just get a picked-over carcass.
if the description doesn't *say* clean ESN, it's not. i even had to send back an evo once because the ESN was bad even though the seller said it was ok. they refunded my money claiming someone *else* told them it was clean. whatever. ebay can be a hassle but there's an endless supply of cheap clean evos out there, you just have to be observant.
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The one for 20 said it was in fully functional form. I only need a phone for a couple more months. Unfortunately, i forgot to bid before the auction ended I need to get better at ebay lol

Nexus 6 Replacement by Motorola

Hello,
I just wanted to share my experience that I had with Motorola regarding replacement of my Nexus 6.
So, I have had my Nexus 6 for a little over a month. (Just long enough to not be able to return it) I have noticed screen "burn in" really bad where the navigation bar and status bar are located. So bad that I can see a "ghost" of my navigation and status bar icons when watching videos on YouTube. I tried to prevent it, keeping brightness down and display timeout on 30 seconds. Apparently I received a very poor quality display.
Anyways, I contacted Motorola about this and I wanted to share their return policy and procedures. Motorola will give you two options.
Option One: "Standard Replacement Service" They will email you a return shipping label. The label is standard FedEx Ground. You then use the label to return your defective Nexus 6 to them. Once they receive it, they will ship you a "Like New" device within 5 business days.
Option Two: "Premium Replacement Service" They will ship you a Brand New Nexus 6 via FedEx 2nd Day Air. Included in the package will be a return shipping label to return the defective Nexus 6. This option has a service charge of $24.99 AND they require you to provide them with a credit card, which they issue a security hold on in the amount of $500.00.
I originally went with option one yesterday, but then I decided against it and called back right away this morning to cancel the RMA and created a new RMA and went with option two. I really didn't want to go without my phone for two weeks.
I found out that the only thing not covered under warranty "repair" is liquid / extreme moisture. The Nexus 6 one year warranty covers repair / replacement of damaged devices! If your Nexus 6 is out of the one year warranty, a $175 fee is charged for malfunctioning or damage. (Still a good deal in my opinion)
https://motorola-global-portal.cust..._answer_detail/a_id/102486/p/30,6720,9293#fix
Not all of your info is accurate. I've had a Nexus 6 I purchased through Sprint in April, and about two months ago I dropped it causing the screen to shatter. There was also a dent in the upper left corner and for reasons I couldn't figure out the micro USB port ceased to work.
Naturally, I checked out the repair service for Motorola and found that my phone was still within the one year limited warranty period. I sent my phone in with the bootloader unlocked, rooted, running XtraSmooth MM preview using option one as you described above and switched to using a Verizon GS5 while I waited. 4 days later I received a brand new replacement Nexus 6 and wasn't charged anything for my damaged phone nor denied service due to software modifications.
It was incredibly quick and hassle free, and I would definitely give their repair service a 5/5 stars for quality service and speed.
Now, if your phone is older than a year you WILL have to pay a fee for repairs. However, if your phone is relatively new you can easily claim warranty twice within that first year.
Also, I've never experienced this burn in people talk about on either of my devices so if they claim it's been rectified, it probably has.
Shilalygawd said:
Not all of your info is accurate. I've had a Nexus 6 I purchased through Sprint in April, and about two months ago I dropped it causing the screen to shatter. There was also a dent in the upper left corner and for reasons I couldn't figure out the micro USB port ceased to work.
Naturally, I checked out the repair service for Motorola and found that my phone was still within the one year limited warranty period. I sent my phone in with the bootloader unlocked, rooted, running XtraSmooth MM preview using option one as you described above and switched to using a Verizon GS5 while I waited. 4 days later I received a brand new replacement Nexus 6 and wasn't charged anything for my damaged phone nor denied service due to software modifications.
It was incredibly quick and hassle free, and I would definitely give their repair service a 5/5 stars for quality service and speed.
Now, if your phone is older than a year you WILL have to pay a fee for repairs. However, if your phone is relatively new you can easily claim warranty twice within that first year.
Also, I've never experienced this burn in people talk about on either of my devices so if they claim it's been rectified, it probably has.
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They repaired (replaced) your broken device for free? That is amazing! The reps I talked to advised me it was $175 for damage repair. (Because they just replace it I guess) So your saying you get 2 claims during the one year warranty for damage even?
Did Google still own Motorola when you sent your phone in?
Rektifying said:
They repaired (replaced) your broken device for free? That is amazing! The reps I talked to advised me it was $175 for damage repair. (Because they just replace it I guess) So your saying you get 2 claims during the one year warranty for damage even?
Did Google still own Motorola when you sent your phone in?
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I sent it in last month. Yeah, it was free, and you're supposed to have two free claims within your first year. I've only used one so I have no proof of that. Maybe I got lucky and got a nice technician.
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I sent it in last month. Yeah, it was free, and you're supposed to have two free claims within your first year. I've only used one so I have no proof of that. Maybe I got lucky and got a nice technician.
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No, you are correct! I seem to have been miss informed, kinda. I just checked Nexus 6 warranty info @ Motorola.com.
The ONLY thing excluded from warranty "repair" is liquid damage / extreme moisture damage. If you have owned your Nexus 6 for longer than one year, THEN the $175 fee is charged for a malfunctioning or damaged device. People need to know this! I wonder how many people replaced their own displays that they broke, tossed out, sold for parts, etc their damaged Nexus 6's not knowing that Motorola would have repaired it for free had they just sent it in for free.
I am glad I now know this! Not to mention, I will have proof of "purchase" for my Nexus 6 because they are shipping me the new device. So I have a year from today pretty much.
Thank you for posting! I would have never looked and been misguided by not one, but two reps!
Also, I did a full wipe, stock flash, bootloader locked my device just to be safe. I mean, they are holding $500 hostage on my credit card. lol. I'm not taking any chances!
"Burn in" is covered but its pointless. Amoleds will "burn in" except if hide the softkeys. Dealing with "burn in" was better than unknowns of refurb.
Shattered screens are not covered by warranty. They charge $175 whether in or out of warranty.
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"Burn in" is covered but its pointless. Amoleds will "burn in" except if hide the softkeys. Dealing with "burn in" was better than unknowns of refurb.
Shattered screens are not covered by warranty. They charge $175 whether in or out of warranty.
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That is what I would assume, but reading the warranty guidelines the only thing stated as not being covered is liquid damage.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
"Burn in" is covered but its pointless. Amoleds will "burn in" except if hide the softkeys. Dealing with "burn in" was better than unknowns of refurb.
Shattered screens are not covered by warranty. They charge $175 whether in or out of warranty.
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Not saying you're wrong, but feel free to tell that to my no-charge busted screen warranty claim.
Most manufacturers have a one year limited warranty, and you don't have to provide proof of purchase unless asked. Usually the date you bought the device and where you bought it will suffice. I got my girlfriend's S5 fixed for free by Samsung at the same time my Nexus 6 was replaced. She dropped it and busted the LCD. Warranty covered it too.
I wanted to chime in with my recent experience. Im still waiting on my replacement (should be today). My nexus 6 was having the split screen issue no matter what rom or kernel I was running and the USB port was really loose (was interfering with android auto). I went with option 2 and they told me they are sending a like new not brand new.
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I wanted to chime in with my recent experience. Im still waiting on my replacement (should be today). My nexus 6 was having the split screen issue no matter what rom or kernel I was running and the USB port was really loose (was interfering with android auto). I went with option 2 and they told me they are sending a like new not brand new.
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Update....so gotta give Motorola support props. I had also joked that they could send me an white 64GB (mine was 32gb blue) and they said they can't do that. Told him no problem. Well, to my surprise, they sent me a brand new white 64gb. The box was still factory sealed and includes a brand new charger and cable. Lucky Me!
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Update....so gotta give Motorola support props. I had also joked that they could send me an white 64GB (mine was 32gb blue) and they said they can't do that. Told him no problem. Well, to my surprise, they sent me a brand new white 64gb. The box was still factory sealed and includes a brand new charger and cable. Lucky Me!
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That is awesome! Congrats on that! Now you have my hopes up... lol. I asked if I could receive a Cloud White instead of Midnight Blue. He advised me that he could not do that but that he would notate my RMA that I requested a Cloud White instead so it would be up to the warehouse if they wanted to make an exception. I have been thinking about getting a cloud white replacement housing and back. I found a site that sells true oem parts and it would cost me $40.00 all said and done. But it would be awesome if they just sent me a Cloud White!
Also, everyone that I have heard of that has had their Nexus 6 replaced by Motorola in the last few months has received a factory sealed device in retail packaging with the original retail accessories. I seriously don't think that they are refurbished devices. I have or know people who have received refurbished electronics from warranty claims before such as Blu Ray players, computer components, phones, tablets, etc. (I'm the family tech) They seem to usually be in unmarked packaging, and just the unit itself with no accessories.
I could be wrong but I can't see a company packing refurbs in retail packaging, sealed with all of the normal included accessories.
I helped my uncle with his iPhone 5 in the past and a LG Tablet. We sent them both in for warranty repair and he received refurbs back in non-retail packaging with no accessories. (They had different serial numbers so I doubt they were repaired. Sprint even wanted to charge him $35 for activation on the iPhone 5. lol)
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That is awesome! Congrats on that! Now you have my hopes up... lol. I asked if I could receive a Cloud White instead of Midnight Blue. He advised me that he could not do that but that he would notate my RMA that I requested a Cloud White instead so it would be up to the warehouse if they wanted to make an exception. I have been thinking about getting a cloud white replacement housing and back. I found a site that sells true oem parts and it would cost me $40.00 all said and done. But it would be awesome if they just sent me a Cloud White!
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Good luck!
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Update....so gotta give Motorola support props. I had also joked that they could send me an white 64GB (mine was 32gb blue) and they said they can't do that. Told him no problem. Well, to my surprise, they sent me a brand new white 64gb. The box was still factory sealed and includes a brand new charger and cable. Lucky Me!
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You have me regretting not doing this on my claim. #dat32bluelifedoe
ILuvRice said:
Update....so gotta give Motorola support props. I had also joked that they could send me an white 64GB (mine was 32gb blue) and they said they can't do that. Told him no problem. Well, to my surprise, they sent me a brand new white 64gb. The box was still factory sealed and includes a brand new charger and cable. Lucky Me!
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I wasn't so lucky. I received my replacement Nexus 6 today. It was in a moto care box. The phone itself in the box was in a bubble wrap sleeve. Everyone I have heard of got a new in retail box replacement, but not me! lol. The phone did have the factory plastic thing on the screen, and after VERY close examination of the device there is not so much as a tiny knick or scratch or a single spec of dust in the speaker grills. I'm not sure what to make of it. Either the rep I talked to lied to me, or they have new devices that they issue in non-retail packaging.
Anyone receive their replacement like this?
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I wasn't so lucky. I received my replacement Nexus 6 today. It was in a moto care box. The phone itself in the box was in a bubble wrap sleeve. Everyone I have heard of got a new in retail box replacement, but not me! lol. The phone did have the factory plastic thing on the screen, and after VERY close examination of the device there is not so much as a tiny knick or scratch or a single spec of dust in the speaker grills. I'm not sure what to make of it. Either the rep I talked to lied to me, or they have new devices that they issue in non-retail packaging.
Anyone receive their replacement like this?
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I have received one each way. One in retail package, new sealed box, and another that was in bubblewrap sleeve with plastic on it. I'm betting that the bubble wrapped one is probably a refurb, but if it is, mine was flawless as well, so they probably tore it apart, put a new screen, back/side casing and speaker grill set in it. There are a few other companies I've gotten refurbs from over the years that were this good, but not many.
Well, never mind I guess. I thought it looked like a brand new device but it clearly is not. The display is worse than the one I was replacing. It looks like this is going to be a fun ride. I would literally rather keep the one I have than the one they sent me... It has worse burn in on the nav bar than mine did. Also, there is a dark hue on I would say 1/4 of the bottom of the display. As if it is not as bright as the rest.
This is definitely going back to Motorola! I am going to call them now.
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I have received one each way. One in retail package, new sealed box, and another that was in bubblewrap sleeve with plastic on it. I'm betting that the bubble wrapped one is probably a refurb, but if it is, mine was flawless as well, so they probably tore it apart, put a new screen, back/side casing and speaker grill set in it. There are a few other companies I've gotten refurbs from over the years that were this good, but not many.
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Oh I see. I hate refurbished replacements. I don't know why, and I know they "inspect" them but I just hate the idea of it I guess. I mean, mine looked brand spanking new but judging by the serious nav bar burn in and how the bottom 1/4 of the display was darker, almost pinkish hue to it, the display was definitely from a used unit.
I was just on the phone with Motorola for over an hour. I explained to a supervisor in the escalations department how I paid the $24.99 and let them hold $500+ dollars on my credit card, only to receive a worse device than the one I originally had. So, he said that in order for him to send another replacement immediately that he would have to issue another $500 security hold. BUT, when he created my RMA he set it up so that I will be receiving a Brand New, 64GB Cloud White. I originally had a 32GB Midnight Blue! This is awesome! I went from super frustrated to super happy. lol. Motorola definitely has some of the better customer service that I have experienced to say the least. He offered the 64GB upgrade for the inconvenience, which I told him I greatly appreciated but I would love if he could send me a cloud white version as well.
I have a minor screen issue, get tearing like once a month on some kernels, but Couple times a day on others. Scarred to warranty because everything else is great.
i just got off the phone with motorola because of deep scratches and i've started to notice after occasional reboots, my SIM card will not read. i'll have to pull it and re-insert it 3-4 times until it actually picks up. i've tried cleaning the SIM slot with a soft bristled toothbrush several times but still happening. so according to motorola, nevermind the SIM problem, if there's a scratch on the screen i'll have to pay $175 plus taxes. for those looking for the warranty guidelines, here you go:
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/euf/assets/downloads/MOTOROLA%20MOBILITY%20INC-LIMITED%20GLOBAL%20WARRANTY-MOBILE%20PHONES-AUGUST%202011.pdf
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i just got off the phone with motorola because of deep scratches and i've started to notice after occasional reboots, my SIM card will not read. i'll have to pull it and re-insert it 3-4 times until it actually picks up. i've tried cleaning the SIM slot with a soft bristled toothbrush several times but still happening. so according to motorola, nevermind the SIM problem, if there's a scratch on the screen i'll have to pay $175 plus taxes. for those looking for the warranty guidelines, here you go:
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/euf/assets/downloads/MOTOROLA%20MOBILITY%20INC-LIMITED%20GLOBAL%20WARRANTY-MOBILE%20PHONES-AUGUST%202011.pdf
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Damn! The person who posted about sending his in damaged got extremely lucky! So they told you that if it even had a scratch on it that you would have to pay $175 to have it replaced?

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