[REQ] Hierarchical "All Programs" solution - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi all!
I just installed the AT&T leaked test ROM + XboxMod Rhodium. I like the fact that the "Programs" TF3D tab is gone and instead pressing the Windows Start will bring me to my favorite apps.
However, the "All Programs" soft-button still flattens the contents of //Windows/Start Menu . There are many apps there to begin with and I'll have a crapload more installed soon - I don't want to flick through a long, flat list to run what I want. Frankly, I find it rather annoying to do that every time. I will be adding my most frequently used apps/games/utils to the favorites, but that has limited space.
So, here are my ideas for improvements (I wish I could hack it together myself, but I have neither the time, nor the in-depth knowledge):
1) The "All Programs" list should have an alphabetical vertical scroll, similar to the new "All People" list: touch a letter to go to the apps starting with that letter.
2) Make the "All Programs" list follow the folder hierarchy of //Windows/Start Menu with sub-lists. I can then re-arrange //Windows/Start Menu to my liking and it'd be instantly reflected in "All Programs".
3) Add the capability to add shortcuts to folders on the favorite apps button panel itself. Right now it allows me to add apps only from the "All Programs" list.
The above solutions are not mutually exclusive.
Basically, I am looking for a more organized, finger-friendly way to launch programs.
PS: Yes, I have used QuickMenu before, which I found to be a very good solution, unfortunately, it's not very finger-friendly and it doesn't fit into the TF3D2 theme and user experience at all.

This would be a fantastic enhancement to the Rhodium TF3D experience.
My additional/alternative requests would be more simple & straight-forward:
- Identify the exe for the WinMo Start screen, and create a .lnk to it and add it to programs folder, allowing me to set one of my favorites in Rhodium Start screen to be a link to the traditional WinMo Start Menu experience.
- In the All Programs TF3D screen, add a right soft-key to launch the traditional WinMo Start experience

imreolajos said:
So, here are my ideas for improvements (I wish I could hack it together myself, but I have neither the time, nor the in-depth knowledge):
1) The "All Programs" list should have an alphabetical vertical scroll, similar to the new "All People" list: touch a letter to go to the apps starting with that letter.
2) Make the "All Programs" list follow the folder hierarchy of //Windows/Start Menu with sub-lists. I can then re-arrange //Windows/Start Menu to my liking and it'd be instantly reflected in "All Programs".
3) Add the capability to add shortcuts to folders on the favorite apps button panel itself. Right now it allows me to add apps only from the "All Programs" list.
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Good news: someone already did point 2 and 3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442341)
Bad news: it does not work on new devices with VGA and WVGA display.

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Small tip!

Heres how you can organise your programs view (Start->Programs)...
1. Use your normal file explorer and move all your shortcuts into separate folders (stuff like Media, Utils, Connectivity, Office etc.)
2. You can assign an icon for each folder by creating a shortcut in each folder and naming the shortcut as "icon.lnk"
You can do this easily by choosing any one of the available shortcuts and duplicating it...and then renaming the file to icon.lnk
3. I've used VJDialerSms to create a folder called speed dials with sub folders having all my important speed dial shortcuts in separate categories!
silly tips, but i just took some time out and did it....now i have a cleaner and less cluttered Programs menu which makes seaching for my apps so much easier!
Well worth the time spent imo
Cheers,
San
Please note that an extensive start menu will slow the machine down. This is because the operating system will have to search for the icons in each of the linked executables.
For example if you have Skype in your start menu (directly or as a shortcut) you will notice a long delay before the start menu opens. This is because the icon is at the end of the executable, and the Skype executable is over 5 MB big.
So the answer is to prune your start menu from all programs you don't ever need, rather than to fill it with nice to have stuff.
I personally use SmallMenu. What I did is leave everything as it is on my device and copied the shortcuts on my SD card and sort them all out there in different folders. I then use SmallMenu's function to launch them there. By doing it this way, I have the functionality of the Start Menu plus the flexibility of SmallMenu. No delays in lauching either. I was hesitant to disarranged anything in my Start Menu because some applications pops up a warning that it is needed to stay in that folder, although you can still move it and it seems to work anyway, but it still makes me paranoid that it may cause any dead shortcuts or functionality.
Why not give GSPocketMagic++ a try?
(use the english cab from the download)
Still the best around. Also works on WM2005.
Then in Option > Setting... > Program Menu point folder to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and organize your menu structure in there. Also select "Break menu items"
Also the Control Panel applets are directly selectable from GSPocketMagic++. You can still use the original "start menu" if you tap slightly right from the GSPocketMagic++ menu button.
Cheers

Creating a shortcut to the "recent programs" list?

Does anyone know of a way to create a shortcut to the list of recent programs that is generated in the start menu? I know that the apps reside here:
Code:
HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Shell/TashSwitch->#
Now, there are 5 different entries for the five recent programs. I believe 5 is the limit . Anyway, WM does the work of tracking the recent programs used. However, I would like to create dynamic shortcuts that look up the apps in the top three spots. Basically, I would use these shortcuts with HTC Home in the launcher. It would then function much lilke Mobile Shell's launcher.
Any ideas???

[IDEA] Is it possible to add this to TF3D?

I have a lots of programs installed. However when I go into All programs menu in TF3D it is somewhat annoying to flick through all of them.
Is it possible to add that Alphabet strip that you can find in contacts or in Weather-Countries menu. It would ease things extremely. They added it in Weather-Countries after software update, so I guess it is possible.
Dr Twin
Very nice idea...
Excellent idea - although I still resort to the old wm start->programs if I don't have an app on my quick list
flykthewiz said:
Excellent idea - although I still resort to the old wm start->programs if I don't have an app on my quick list
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Well, I do too. But I would like TF3D to be able to display all programs that are as quickly accessible as possible. It seems that Alphabet strip (or ribbon - I do not know the proper term) is elegant solution.
Hard to imagine why it isn't there by default.
Not only that, I can consistenly crash my diamond if i scroll the TF3D "all programs" list too fast 3 times in a row... (using the official 1.93 firmware)
I believe that it is all about layout and that it can be edited and added to All programs menu
good idea would be a search field where you can type in like in e.g. ubuntu
where -while typing- the fitting startmenu entries are suggested...
if nothing is typed in: whole startmenu (all programms) should be shown

Any Chance for the Old Start Menu?

Hi,
I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.
Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.
I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1
My startmenu is very fluid to be honest, I got my programs and stuff sorted in folders. Like games, media (coreplayer etc), network (commanager etc), personal (phone, sms, email etc), GPS, system (total commander, resco explorer, reg edit etc). I will install SPB Screenshot and show you how it looks.
Here you go.
metacortexx said:
Hi,
I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.
Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.
I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1
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Its still there under the programs tab... ? or at least it is on mine...
sorry if this is a noob question, but how do i add folders to the start menu like you've done? and change icons?
I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.
However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
colin_85 said:
I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.
However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
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I totally agree. The current Startmenu lack the support for hiding items en ordering them. Love to find a solution.
I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.
The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.
Bruce Inman said:
I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.
The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.
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True, but the TouchFlo "Programs" was much easier.
So am I the only one who's missing the drop-down menu when you tap the Start button - you know, the one that lists seven favourites and your four or five most recent programs?
Why should I navigate the Honeycomb every time I want to go to a program I use about 30 times a day?
Any fixes/hacks to bring this back? Or am I being really stupid and there's a simple option that I haven't found yet?
colin_85 said:
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
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You can do this with Topaz Keyboard Controller: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555821
Map the Start button to run the program "\Windows\manila.exe" with arguments "--switchtopage programs.page", and it should work perfectly - does for me.

new "item" menu

Hi,
Coming from Windows Mobile and the "Manila" HTC Sense UI there - I miss the menu/shortcut where I had easy access to a selection of shortcuts to create a new sms/e-mail/appointment/task etc.
Is there any app or other way to create sometning similar - for instance as shortcuts on a home screen? I looked a bit at AnyCut, but I can't see how one can create such shortcuts from there...
Part of the problem here, I guess, is that I use quite a mix of software for these assignments (K9mail, Got To Do, HTC Calendar, HTC Messaging etc).
Any inputs are welcome, thanks!
I don't know if this is what you're talking about, but when you press the customize button/ long click on the main homescreen near the bottom of that screen (Above folders) is Shorcut button where you can add shortcuts to the home screen Have a look in there and see if any of those are what you want
I think he wants a group of direct shortcuts to, for example, "compose new message", "add new appointment", etc..
Basically, a "new..." menu.
You could use LauncherPro (or ADWLauncher, I assume) to do it, as long as you're not married to your Sense widgets. Long-press on the desktop, shortcuts -> activities, and experiment from there.
You could bundle all the shortcuts together in a folder on your desktop and call it a day.
I wonder if there's a widget that can do it, though.
catachresistant is on the right track...
You can put shortcuts into folders with sense too....

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