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I am just wondering if anyone has had any luck running either of these GPS Map Guiding applications. I have tried both and they run ok, but due to a high lack in ROM, it freezes 75% percent of the time. Especially during route recalculation. I have done everything possible to maximize RAM for it, but no luck. Just want to know if anyone is running either smoothly and what do you do to get it to run good.
Thanx
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i am runnin the MioMap V.3 on my mogul and its running fine with the htc 3.35 rom.
Thanx
I actually have Miomap ver 3.3 and am running it on DCD 3.0.4 with the latest radio 3.42. It freezes so many time and keeps complaining of low memory
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I actually have Miomap ver 3.3 and am running it on DCD 3.0.4 with the latest radio 3.42. It freezes so many time and keeps complaining of low memory
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Please people, more input
Any Help
Some people have success with iGo 2008 on the Mogul, so please how do I do to get this to run on mine please. It eats up RAM like it's candy. It freezes all the time.
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My MioMap V.3 on my mogul used to run just fine with the htc 3.35 rom. But with the newer rom 3.56, it couldn't find the gps and freezes whenever I try to specify the settings. IGo8 has the same problem. Tomtom/garmin work well though. Anyone know what is the potential problem? Thanks.
Thanx
Well, in as much as this thread has little response, thanx for your input though. In my case, its just the RAM, it freezes even before the program loads. Even if it is the first program I start after soft resetting it. iGO 8 and MioMap 3, all the same.
Damionix said:
Well, in as much as this thread has little response, thanx for your input though. In my case, its just the RAM, it freezes even before the program loads. Even if it is the first program I start after soft resetting it. iGO 8 and MioMap 3, all the same.
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hey Damionix, did you fix that problem? I too have the same problem. There must be some wrong settings or missing settings that we have to add maybe to sys.txt file or something. Also everytime i install igo8 runs nice but when i change gps port to 4, ram usage skyrockets and now i cant even get to the main screen(it stuck at "STARTING"). I also disabled aGps in the registry but to no avail.
o and im using dcd 3.2.2 rom
I have IGO8, Tom Tom7 and Garmin XT running with very large maps on my Titan and they all run fine. I am using the latest (June) release of the 3.56.xx Rom
Only other program I have running in the background is SPB Mobile with greatbal's gsmart theme.
I have heard loading all the USA maps for IGO8 at the same time may bog down your ram from the POI build - so I limited to just about 8 contiguous states for me, I'll add more if I go outside that limit. For Tom Tom I have the 2 GB North America map and for Garmin XT I have the following combined into one map - the full NT 2009 North America, a couple of state topo maps and the Gulf of Mexico Blue water map.
I'm using an SDHC 8gig card - thats where I loaded all the programs - I have used Mio Map 3.3 but deleted it for IGO8
Mule
im using the latest rom from sprint 3.56 on HTC mogul
to run igo 8 i have to disable all my today screen items. except battery status as that is how i check how much ram i have left and i use the little operator button to link to the task manager
anyways after i disable all my today screens items and do a soft reset, i have about 24mb ram free. and i even uninstalled s2u2 cause i didnt want to have to close it all the time just to use my gps hehe
igo 8 starts up just fine. no lag.. if i minimize, i see that i have about 8mb free.. untill i start using the map then itll drop down to about 1.5mb-3.0mb free. basicly i cannot open any other programs or it will freeze. altho i am using GPSgate(do a search here) to get igo to even see my gps, that program only uses about .4 mb ram
ive only had it freeze before i figured out i needed GPSgate and when i get a phone call.. i was still able to talk but it froze igo8 and had to do a soft reset after the conversation.
i had 1 low memory warning and it was before i found GPSgate and activesync was running
im also using this tip http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405137
i also set all my 3d settings to off or low
heyitisdavis said:
i am runnin the MioMap V.3 on my mogul and its running fine with the htc 3.35 rom.
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how did you make your Mogul detect the GPS on Miomap.. mine keeps on searching for comm ports w/o any success.
Can you please post the manual GPS configuration?
any tips on this will be gratefully appreciated.
I use the June 24th release of iGO8. It works pretty well for me even with TTS!
Here is what worked for me....
First I set up WM to have the max free RAM that I could. Im not even going to get into that but lets just say you want at least 22MB free to launch IGO and have it work decently. If you can get to 25-26MB free you can even use the TTS feature pretty well.
Here is what I did to iGO. I run it with all 50 states in the USA and all the buildings and terrain.
First install it on your storage card.
then go to iGO8 on your storage card and...
-delete branding.zip
-copy data.zip to your pc unzip it and delete every resolution you do not use in ui_igo8. you should be left with 240_320 or 320_240 depending on how you want to run it. keep both if you will be switching between portrait and landscape (but its best to choose one and delete all of the rest). Now take your modified data folder and rezip it with no compression naming it data.zip. Back up your original data.zip and move the new one back on to the storage card.
-delete tahoma.ttf and tohamabd.ttf and replace them with the same fonts from \windows.
-delete all the voices you will not use from \iGO8\content\voice and \iGO8\tts_loq if you are using TTS
-now edit your sys.txt file ...for portrait mode your file to look like this:
[phone]
driver="TAPI"
exe_path="\Windows\cprog.exe"
win_name="Phone"
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
[screen]
autoscroll_on_click=1
[tripcomputer]
num_of_trips=4 ;default igo8 has 3
[smartzoom]
minangle=0
maxangle=85
[3d]
guidancearrow_first_size=1.1 ;scale of 1st arrow
guidancearrow_first_alpha=24 ;transp of 1st arrow
guidancearrow_second_size=0.8
guidancearrow_second_alpha=12
;guidancearrow_width ;
;guidancearrow_thickness ;
;guidancearrow_skew ;
;guidancearrow_zoomfactor ;
;guidancearrow_contour ;
;road_clip_plane_to_camera_height ;
;road_clip_plane_camera_delta ;
3d_tmc_road_extra_width=200 ;
;disable_3d_labels=0 ; don´t show 3D labels in map
use_all_building_textures=1 ;
[3d_config]
roadsign_lines_per_screen=15 ;map font size smaller number is bigger
rotated_roadsigns=1
[map]
zoomscale_disappearing=1 ;works with show_zoombar
auto_nightmode=1
mapfontscale=200
inertia_on_map_move=1
popup_info=1
shields=1
textured_poly=1
3d_landmarks=1
3d_buildings=1
;3d_buildings_distance=1
3d_dem=1
;3d_dem_detail=2
terrain_in_2d=1
3d_roads=1
3d_tunnels=1
3d_max_tiltlevel=8500
3d_max_zoomlevel=300
3d_min_zoomlevel=20
3d_max_zfar=500
3d_scale_carmodel=1
3dcarsizemin=5000
3dcarsizemax=10000
3dcarsizemul=30000
[tmc]
;port="COM,x" // <- x = port used by TMC (1,2,3,...)
;source="yyy" // <- yyy = TMC protocol
;gps_source=0
[gps]
;port=4
;baud=38400
;default_latitude=48.857004
;default_longitude=2.294760
[debug]
skip_eula=1
max_memory=22000000 ; adjust this to match your available memory
reserve_memory=1700000
disable_outlookpoi=1
show_pedestrian=1
cache=1024 ;control the cache size used by iGo
no_extrapolation=0 ;estimate calculation when gps signal temporarily lost (tunnels etc)
smart_2d=1 ;value: 0,1 - Turns on Smart 2D
;compass_type=3 ;compass type can be 0,1,2,3
[sound]
sound_q_length=200
queue_length=200
ding=0
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
no_gps_lost_warning=1 ;no audio message if gsp lost
drive_carefully=0 ;skip the annoying drive safe announcement
vga=0
show_exit=1
autotilt=1
defaulttilt3d=80000
[mydata]
max_favorites=20
empty_favorites=1
num_favicons=10
max_history=60
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
class="portrait"
screen_x=240
screen_y=320
[msnd]
msnd.start=0
-if you run in landscape mode edit the [rawdisplay] area to look like this:
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
class="landscape"
screen_x=320
screen_y=240
... one last note ...
adjust the max_memory setting under [debug] to be about 2 under your available memory when you plan on launching iGO
so if you run it with 23MB free typically it should be
max_memory=21000000
Happy driving!
PleaseStirMe
I have tried both on my Sprint Mogul with dcd 3.26 and neither are working right. Both freeze up at the menu screen, whether simple or advanced, the next screen it locks.
I have 23.7M (or so) of free RAM after a soft reset. I've let it sit on that menu for 5 minutes straight, wondering if it were catching up. No good.
I have TomTom7, but I want something with text to speech support.
The first time you run Igo or Oncourse it goes thru your contact list and checks the address on all of them. If you have a very large contact list it could be causing it to act very slow. It only does this once, so after it finishes it won't do it again in the future.
You might also check your config file, I think it's called sys.txt, would have to search to verify, but it lists your com ports. If you have an invalid com port for your GPS it can lock up entirely. Find this file and change it to com 4 baud 4800 and then restart it, should work fine then.
Let me know if that doesn't work. I've started Igo with as little as 8mb free, it ran, tho not very well and crashed shortly afterwards, but with 23mb it should run very well. So I don't think it's a memory issue in your case.
BTC
groovy. I'll sys.txt it up and report back.
getting there.... trying different combinations of ... packages ... see what works and what doesnt.
Can you mix OnCourse with iGo?
As far as I know, OnCourse is just a licensed OEM of of Igo, I've heard that the maps, skins, themes, etc all work fine with both.
I personally haven't tried OnCourse because the word I heard was that it's a compressed .exe file which in turns requires more ram to uncompress and then run. There were several looking into uncompressing the exe file and running directly, but have not seen any confirmed threads that someone has it resolved.
BTC
yeah, im avoiding an actual install of oncourse... however, what I have, has some things in it that my igo doesnt have, as well as US poi's which my igo doesnt have. More experimenting tonight.
I too was having an issue with IGO8 not starting properly, I could enter the program but none of the icons would function.....well not really.....I would click settings and about 30 seconds later I would hear the click sound but IGO would stay at that screen and then about 1 minute later it would goto the settings screen.
After doing some research I did find that it was an issue that IGO had with
adding my contacts addresses(I'm guessing that this is a ram issue). Here is what I added to the sys.txt file to stop IGO from trying to add my contacts to its POI DB, disable_outlookpoi=1 needs to be added under [debug]. I'm pretty sure I found a sys.txt config on ppcgeeks in the vouge section.
I cannot get the TTS to work as it appears that our Titans don't have enough ram to allow all of the features of IGO to work.
I have installed DCD latest with a couple of programs installed i.e. MSVC, Oxios, DCD carrier cab(great work DCD, every rom he makes just keeps getting faster and allowing more ram to be utilized) at boot I have about 23-24mb available, when starting IGO and then minimizing IGO I have 1.3-1.4MB free ram. When trying to select the Susan TTS voice it immediately crashes with an out of memory error. I'm also using the full maps of North America, all the building files and the terrain file for USA as well. When I get a chance I'm going to try only my state and my states buildings and see if that frees up any additional ram for TTS.
Good luck
i have noticed that it wont run unless I prime the GPS, even with the [gps] code in the sys.txt
Scrufdog said:
i have noticed that it wont run unless I prime the GPS, even with the [gps] code in the sys.txt
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I have found the same thing, I've attached a .zip file that someone created that will give you a shortcut for astroGPS to prime the GPS and also start IGO8. You must have astroGPS installed but it works like a treat.
anyone figure out how to setup tts with any tweaks or removing some default programs for more ram? I installed dcd latest rom with nothing else but igo8 and still get that out of memory :/ Also i have igo running with no terrain and in 2d mode with no luck
So is anyone able to get Text to Speech (TTS) works on Titan?
** Don't ask/pm me for files or where to d/l **
Since someone PM me for iGO 8 config, I just share my exp & config in case anyone find it useful.
**TTS is very sensitive to Virtual Memory. (Please noted it's not the available memory you see at Settings > memory. So you may see 90mb+ available memory there but still not able to get TTS) and resource at IGO "startup" time (but doesn't matter after it started and working).
1. Make sure the rom use the slots wisely and give you enough VM (22mb+), U should ask your cook for detail.
2. Make sure you don't have **** load of craps at startup (/Windows/startup. HKLM/init, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher, etc)
3. Make a full backup and disable unnecessary services/devices with Dotfred task manager. Personally, I don't need USSD, IPV6, Ipsec, ...etc)
4. Soft-reset maybe a good idea if you already run X1 for a long time.
5. "No Today Plugin" w/ AE Button Plus is very handy to deactivate/activate TF3D and free up some resource. There are mortscript to automate this in some thread.
My Steps:
1. optional: start BT and connect your A2DP audio system (JVC BT-1 in my case) in case you want the TTS and phone call goes to yr audio system.
2. run Igo8
3. After Igo8 is started and TTS is working. Minimize Igo8 by "End Call" button. Then start your fav music program (Core Player 1.24 in my case).
4. run Igo8 again to bring up iGO8 from minimize. And my music play (Play/pause/FF/RW) is controlled by AVRCP
My current config: X1i/a running my custom 3.2Full ML rom
iGO8: 8.3.2.90500(PNA version, the ONLY version works for both PDA contact and TTS).
Skin: Trimmed (since I don't need squared screen suppport) & modified (laneinfo_signpost.ini for bigger freeway sign post) v10 from LZF.
My sys.txt
Code:
[project]
;No need the name for the latest version
;name="igo8_pda"
;name="ui_igo8"
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
mapfontscale=250
recalc_voice=0
;uncomment for PDA version
;Skin="ui_igo8"
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
[poi]
enable_pois_before_080217=1
;multipoi=1
[debug]
skip_eula=1
enable_roadshadow=1
sound_q_length=250
show_device_type=0
show_rawdisplay_info=0
enable_3D_buildings=1
enable_roadsign=1
enable_landmark_occlusion=1
show_oneway_3d=1
show_gps_pos=1
showcenter=1
show_speed_limit=1
show_icons=1
show_arrows_on_route=1
follow_gps=1
earth=1
autosave=0
[device]
type="ALIAS_XPERIA"
[tts]
;tts_buffer=65536 ; this could be important for preventing voice interruption
priority="HIGH"
Thanks for sharing this, I can do it myself but I'm sure it helps a lot of people.
However I'm concerned about the eprformance, so here are two suggestions:
1) set this
Code:
enable_3D_buildings=0
instead of enable_3D_buildings=1 , to disable 3d buildings since it's slow.
2) use speedbooster 2.0, and increase the priority of iGo8.exe . It seems to load maps and search faster and the interface drawing is smoother.
More on performance here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503250
Need some help
Hi i have install igo8 in my xperia but when i open the file it stated
Fated error
Initialization error: no voice files were found.
Can someone pls guide me Thx
guys what about german devices ? its not %SDCARD% i got SPEICHERKARTE/IGO8
is this true config ?
after this i changed, my device is starting IGO8 for the first time, but after it breaks imidiantley up.. like an error !
THE START SCREEN APPEARS AND I GOT ON THE RIGHT UNDER CORNER INIT API MSG !
somebody knows some more ? or could help me ?
Very nice iGo8 config. Thanks for that.
Btw is there any way to keep the current map zoom when locating my GPS position. I mean when I scroll and zoom, and than I want to find my current GPS position, click on the button for that, I loose my current zoom, and go to a much lower one, where I can't see the streets.
Anyone any idea?
Funshion said:
Hi i have install igo8 in my xperia but when i open the file it stated
Fated error
Initialization error: no voice files were found.
Can someone pls guide me Thx
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check in Igo/IGO8/CONTENT/LANG if you have any files in there.
jackleung said:
** Don't ask/pm me for files or where to d/l **
Since someone PM me for iGO 8 config, I just share my exp & config in case anyone find it useful.
**TTS is very sensitive to available ram (70mb+) and resource at IGO "startup" time (but doesn't matter after it started and working). Soft-reset maybe a good idea if you already run X1 for a long time. Make sure you don't have **** load of craps at startup. "No Today Plugin" w/ AE Button Plus is very handy to deactivate/activate TF3D and free 15-20mb ram.
1. optional: start BT and connect your A2DP audio system (JVC BT-1 in my case) in case you want the TTS and phone call goes to yr audio system.
2. run Igo8
3. After Igo8 is started and TTS is working. Minimize Igo8 by "End Call" button. Then start your fav music program (Core Player 1.24 in my case).
4. run Igo8 again to bring up iGO8 from minimize. And my music play (Play/pause/FF/RW) is controlled by AVRCP
My current config: X1i/a running my custom 3.2Full ML rom
iGO8: 8.3.2.80621 (PNA version), and the EXE of v8.3.2.73871 (PDA version) on the same directory just for import Outlook contacts addresses for PNA version.
Skin: Trimmed (since I don't need squared screen suppport) & modified (laneinfo_signpost.ini for bigger freeway sign post) v10 from LZF.
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Can you please tell me what you did to make the signposts bigger?
On my device (Touch pro 2) the signposts are about 3/4 of the screen and I just cannot find any solution to make them smaller!
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Can you please tell me what you did to make the signposts bigger?
On my device (Touch pro 2) the signposts are about 3/4 of the screen and I just cannot find any solution to make them smaller!
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I change to signpost_font_size=30. U can play around w/ the padding setting as well
Great post, these settings fixed things for me and gave me some ideas - thanks
I have an AT&T Tilt2 and I installed OCN8 v8.3.2.97313 (via the 8GB SD card), but the TTS voices do NOT work! Only the non-TTS voices work.
When I click on any TTS voice in the settiings I get the "Please wait..." popup for a few seconds and then nothing (i.e., no sample "Have a nice trip. Drive carefully" message).
I tried hard reset and reinstalling, but it just doesn't work.
Anyone out there got it working? If so, what do I need to fix?
Thanks!
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I have an AT&T Tilt2 and I installed OCN8 v8.3.2.97313 (via the 8GB SD card), but the TTS voices do NOT work! Only the non-TTS voices work.
When I click on any TTS voice in the settiings I get the "Please wait..." popup for a few seconds and then nothing (i.e., no sample "Have a nice trip. Drive carefully" message).
I tried hard reset and reinstalling, but it just doesn't work.
Anyone out there got it working? If so, what do I need to fix?
Thanks!
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I dont have answer for you but I have the same problem with iguidance 2009. Every thing orks fine but not the TTS. Still looking for a solution. I hope the same solution will for both.
tried everything also for hours and my tts voices wont work. they still work fine in my fuze using the same sd card. The fuze is also running wm6.5 so I think its a tilt2 problem.
Me, too, I tried so many, many hacks for hours on end but last night I offically gave up.
First, support told me to do a hard reset and that, of course, didn't do anything. Today they just asked me to confirm folder sizes for the tts_loq and voice folders. My sizes match what they told me they should be, so let's see what's next.
Out of curioustuy I put my sd card in my neighbors tmobile tp2 and the tts voices work fine. So they work in his, and also in my fuze running wm6.5 but not the tilt 2. Hope someone figures it out. Looking at the cdma forums it seems tts is also working on other carriers tp2s but not the gsm tilt2 again. It has to be something fixable.
These sys.txt settings worked for Igo8 on my ATT Tilt 2: THREAD
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
save="%SDCard%/iGO8/save"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
popup_info=1
poi_show_all_btn=1
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
screen_x=800
screen_y=480
class="landscape"
[debug]
show_oneway_3d=1
show_oneway=1
show_gps_pos=1
skip_eula=1
show_pedestrian=1
poi_labels=1
show_arrows_on_route=1
tts_min_ready_wav=1
tts_getaway_time=200
tts_expected_engine_delay=1400
reserve_memory=2097152
sound_q_length="200"
no_file_cache="0"
cache="1024"
enable_roadshadow=1
[map]
popup_info=1
show_labels=1
3d_max_tiltlevel=9000
[msnd]
msnd.start=0
[tts]
tts_buffer=131072
tts_logics=3
priority="HIGH"
always_say_road_names=1
announce_street_name=1
announce_exit_directions=1
skip_exit_numbers=0
[sound]
queue_length=200
THE ANSWER: It is the available RAM. Disable TF3D and any other program BEFORE you run iGO8 and it should work.
Here is the bandaid from PPCGEEKS.COM:
itsachirpthing said:
I have a custom mort script that will turn off TF3D, run CleanRam (I have custom process enabled to exit Opera and Tmail within CleanRam), then run Igo8. Once you are finished with Igo and you exit, TF3D will restart. This took some testing, but this works everytime with the high quality TTS voices. I have had no issues. I have posted the code below, this will work on your device providing that you install CleanRam to your "device" and your IGo program is listed as "\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe". These HQ TTS voice issues baffled me for months, but now they work consistently without a soft reset.
Again this code will stop TF3D, Run CleanRam, Start Igo... then when you exit iGo it will restart TF3D.
manilastate=ProcExists("manila.exe")
If (manilastate)
Kill("biotouch.exe")
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",0)
RedrawToday
endif
RunWait("\program files\htcaddicts cleanram\htcaddicts_cleanram.exe")
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")
Sleep(5000)
Kill("Repllog.exe")
While ( ProcExists("igo8.exe") )
IdleTimerReset
Sleep(500)
EndWhile
If (manilastate)
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",1)
RedrawToday
Run("\windows\biotouch.exe")
endif
I have attached the script to run with mort script. I hope others can benfit as well. Good luck and enjoy!
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I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu.
I got my card back from OCN support today and I was able to free up 115 MB of RAM.
The good news is that TTS voices are finally working on my Tilt 2.
The bad news is that only the Spanish TTS voices are working!!!! Arggghh!
The English US Dave and Susan are not working at all. I've tried using some files I downloaded previously (Dave v1.74, Susan v1.84) and they are also not working.
Any ideas? Since the other TTS voices are working, it definitely had to do with memory, but this problem seems specific to those voice files.
Thanks!
Ok, solved...the files were fine.
I was able to kill some more processes and got 121MB free and the voices worked. Therefore, it was purely a RAM problem.
Obviously the Susan and Dave voices required more RAM than the Spanish ones which worked with 114MB free.
Update: I was able to get the Susan and Dave TTS working with even under 114MB free, by just killing the voicecmd.exe process.
So as it turns out, Voice Command, somehow, was interfering with those two TTS voices.
Thanks to MortScript, I now use it to kill Voice Command, launch OCN8, then relaunch Voice Command when OCN8 exits.
Thanks for the script and all the tips, lokmeup! Much appreciated!
Next week I will outline for other Jade Clone owners how to install iGO8. Prior to that it will be back to basics on prepping your Clone. If done properly, the preparation will make installation of iGO8 a breeze.
The three biggest items for prepping your Jade clone are knowing how to turn on the GPS, a good sys.txt file and which version of iGO8 is best for our Clones. All this will be covered when scheduled maintenance on Novermber 23rd is complete.
I ask you to stay patient with me in the days ahead. If you follow the guide that will be outlined here, then I can promise you that installing iGO8 will be a breeze!
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Preliminary Discussion about installing iGO8 on a Jade Clone
As a former Mod of another iGO8 Forum, I am amazed by difficulties encountered by some users when it comes to installing iGO8. I know that language and computer skills play a factor, but if you're capable of following instructions, installing iGO8 is not that hard.
Almost a year I upgraded my PDA, a Dell Axim x51V, to iGO8. Prior to that I was using ONC6. IMHO, iGO8 is considerably better than other satellite navigation (SATNAV) programs. While most have caught up it in terms of features like displaying 3D features, what seperates iGO8 is the ability to adapt skins to modify iGO8's display. Combined with route planning and saving, iGO8 easily beats the competition.
I specifically mentioned PDA because when you buy iGO8 (which I highly encourage you to do), NavNGo or its retailers will tell you that as a smartphone owner you should use the PDA version.Unfortunately the PDA version does allow text-to-speech (TTS) which is one feature that every SATNAV program is desired by all users. About three months after using the PDA version, I learned how to quote upgrade to the Personal Navigation Assistant (PNA) version which has TTS capability.
I then bought a PNA that did not come with iGO8 and successfully modified it to run iGO8. After I became an iGO8 Mod, I helped develop procedures for installing iGO8 on a car mounted double din (2DIN) SATNAV unit. It came in handy when I helped an Uncle install iGO8 on his new car. About two months later when I lost my cell phone, I upgraded that phone to a Jade Clone and successfully installed iGO8 on it too. About two weeks ago, I helped my brother install iGO8 on his smartphone. If you're keeping count, that is six different installations. The hardest one was the PNA installation but that was because of the mortscripts involved.
Installing iGO8 is easy if you have a gameplan which I will lay out for you. Over the next five days I will develop this thread to take you from preparing your Jade Clone to actual installation and usage.
You will need to stay patient and be willing to follow directions explicitly - IF you do, installation of iGO8 on your Jade Clone will be easy!
The Game Plan for Installing iGO8 on a Jade Clone
On every platform or system I have installed iGO8 on, I have had a game plan. Basically the plan is to use the KISS theory: Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Most botched installations occur because the user tried to have their system do too much or over-complicated the installation. There are six parts to the game plan I will recommend to my fellow Jade Clone owners:
1. Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip.
2. Selection of the right version of iGO8.
3. Backing up the SD card sent by NavNGo.
4. Minimizing the number of files on this SD card so that iGO8 will compile quickly and in a minimum amount of time.
5. Having the correct sys.txt file.
6. Choosing a skin.
Each day I will cover one of these topics just like a coach who is preparing his team for victory. If you're willing to be patient, read carefully and follow instructions, iGO8 will be a breeze to install.
The first topic will be posted later today. . .
1. Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip
You might have wondered why Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip was listed as the first step of the game plan for installing iGO8. Believe it or not, GPS not found is the number one error message usually displayed by iGO8 when it is first installed. This can lead to a very frustrating search for how to get iGO8 to find your GPS. While iGO8 has a feature to AutoDetect the GPS, it cannot do this if the GPS is not turned on.
While most Personal Navigation Assistants (PNAs) will automatically turn-on the GPS chip by a line in their shell.ini file, most smartphones do not turn on the GPS automatically. The reason for this is that the GPS chip will consume energy and on some systems is a major power drain. While not being turned-on automatically might be a good thing, most smartphones do not have a utility for turning on their GPS chip.
My iGO8 game plan knows the importance of a turned-on GPS to iGO8 - without a functional GPS, iGO8 will not work. This is why prepping your Jade Clone to have its GPS chip turned-on comes before all other steps in the game plan. It is the very first thing I do whenever I turn on a new PDA, PNA or smartphone for the first time.
There are two steps needed for the Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip:
1. Having your Jade Clone manage the GPS chip.
2. Installing an app to turn on the GPS chip.
1. Having your Jade Clone manage the GPS chip
With WM 5 and beyond, Microsoft has recommended that WM manage the GPS for all programs in order to deconflict them. WM 6.5 came with a program under Settings/System/External GPS to Manage GPS. In the first tab, the user will see what the system dictates where the GPS chip is found. In the second tab, the user will set a virtual Port that all the Clone's programs will use to get their GPS data from. This virtual Port can not be set to the actual Port setting. Since Port 9 is sometimes used by TMC programs, I recommend setting the virtual Port to Port 8.
In the event that your version of WM does not have the Settings tabs to manage the GPS, there is a cab file called Microsoft_Smartphone_GPSID_Settings attached to this message. Install this cab file to your Clone's main memory. Under the Programs tab, you will find it listed as GPSID_Settings. Use this program to set up the virtual GPS Port as listed above.
2. Installing an app to turn on the GPS chip.
A little known app as GPSToggle is a Today homescreen plug-in that can turn-on a Jade Clone's GPS chip.
Download GPSToggle CAB from this link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7VRBH5RS .
GPSToggle works best when installed to main memory.
Once installed, you will need to add it to your Today screen. From your Today screen go to Settings, then choose Today settings. Go to the Items tab and you should see BAF GPS Toggle at the bottom of the list. Click the box to have it added to your Today Screen. Close the Settings screen and go back to your Today screen.
Now, a little bit of info about your GPS. It will work best when it has an unobstructed view of the sky overhead. It should stationery (not moving) and uninterrupted from the time you turn on the application.
Some people can get satellite signals inside a building. I can because I live in a one-story condo. If you can sit outside with your phone for about 30 minutes, GPSToggle should do the trick.
On your Today screen you will now see an item called GPS with the word OFF next to it. Click the word GPS and the word next to it will change to On indicating that the app has turned on your GPS.
Now sit back, be patient and wait. If you're lucky and outside, the SIRF III chip in your phone should lock on within as little as 42 seconds and as long as five minutes.
Attached to this message are four screens showing what your screen will look like:
GPSToggle 01 - Initial turn on. GPS is in search mode (no satellites detected).
GPSToggle 02 - GPS on. Communication beginning. 12 satellites possible.
GPSToggle 03 - GPS on. Four satellite bars displayed. Satnav not possible yet.
GPSToggle 04 - GPS on. Four satellites locked on. 3D satnav possible.
Note 1: I had not turned on my GPS today which meant it took about 2.5 minutes to lock on. This is not bad considering I am sitting in my front room. Normally, it takes about 60 seconds when I have turned on the GPS previously in the day and eperemis data which is satellite position and timing information is available from a previous session.
Note 2: According to most SIRF manufacturers, it takes three satellites for 2D satnav to occur. Most GPS programs can operate with that mode. Four satellites provide 3D satnav which is preferred.
See if this works for you. If it does, whenever you need to use your GPS, go to the Today screen and use GPSToggle to turn on the GPS for you which will quote warm it up for your GPS program. Once you see four green bars, you can turn on your GPS program and navigate like a champ!
You can read further about GPSToggle at this URL and thank the developer: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html
Tomorrow, we will cover step two of the game plan!
2. Selection of the right version of iGO8
If you participated in the Easter Egg Hunt last week, you will notice that one of the hyperlinks took you to another thread here in our Jade sub Forum. Before I repost that link, I would like to explain further about why I posted this there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4985374&postcount=20
The right version of iGO8 is not necessarily the most current version. In upgrading to iGO8 from ONC6 during the past year I have noticed that NavNGo was pumping out versions like short order cook in fast food restaurant. Some times the versions were great because they corrected errors from previous updates. Some times the new versions were more buggy than the previous update.
My best advice to fellow Jade Clone owners is that if you want to experience iGO8, you do with a version that is known to be okay. As each new version came out, I wait one or two months to see what others thought of the update. If the update was not a good one, I passed on it. My Dad always said if you have a good thing, you should not be in a hurry to change just because others are jumping off a cliff.
RECOMMENDED VERSION - v8.3.2.71348
With that in mind, I am currently using iGO8 PNA version which was released during July 2009 with Gurjon skin 6p. I am basically a minimalist - iGO8 has a lot bells and whistles. While I use most of its features, I don't need every single item displayed onscreen. Why over tax the capabilities of my Jade Clone? My basic tenet is that I will do no harm to my Jade Clone (that should be your belief too)! While iGO8 should not be able to do something bad to your Clone, why take the chance by going beyond my recommendations.
I recommend you buy PNA v8.3.2.71348. Maps will vary. I prefer TeleAtlas for where I am in the United States. NavTeq works fine. This version has the standard lane assist, 3D effects and TTS features.
One of the nice things about iGO8 is that the majority of the update is built into its iGO8.exe file. Typically I wait until I know a good update comes out; download the updated file and post it to my SD card. I always keep a backup SD card with the old version that does not get changed or updated until I know the new version works for me.
With that in mind, I know that everyone has free choice. In the fore mentioned post from the first paragraph of this post, I will now point you to the current version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3325079&postcount=16
In that post, Tom Lenferink posted a link to a test drive version of iGO8 which is an update to v8.3.2.71348. The latest version with its driver alert feature exposed a flaw not only in iGO8 but also the maps available to be used with it. Supposedly only one version of NavTeq maps can be used with this new version. And then, even all the driver alerts are not fully implemented or working.
NavNGO seems to have slowed down on putting out a new version since this August update. This has led some to wonder about its future. I believe iGO8's future is bright because most likely NavNGO is working on its next version with both map vendors to get it right.
Last night I read an Associated Press article on Yahoo News about Black Friday GPS sales. The gist is that while the PNA/PDA *might* fade, the indash automobile (double din aka 2DIN) installations is growing faster than even the iPhone and smartphone markets at about 25 percent. Just about everyone has a car and when it gets replaced, chances are a new indash 2Din satnav program will be installed in the center screen. That is the future of iGO8 if you ask my humble opinion.
Guess what? My recommendation of v8.3.2.71348 works on a 2Din with slight modifications of the sys.txt file which will be covered in a future topic.
You can read about the GPS predictions here:
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/20091125/tc_nf/70316
Backing up the SD card sent by NavNGo - Read and Heed!
I would be willing to bet that many of you are unaware that an SD card can be corrupted if your smartphone makes an incorrect read/write action to it!!! Usually this action occurs as the result of a program making a read/write action as the phone is being shutdown. Or, it can occur because one program has locked part of the card while another is trying to access it.
I've seen it a number of times on my PDA and just saw it last night on my Jade Clone. Normally your system will be able to access the directory where the corrupted entry (entry can be a file or even the entire directory) is located on the SD card. The way you can possibly tell your card is corrupted is if you are having problems with programs not running correctly off the SD card.
Or, if when you insert your SD card into a Windows computer, that system should tell you that it needs to do a chkdsk scan of your SD card because it has detected your SD is corrupted. Most times chkdsk will not do harm to the SD card but it can cause cross-linked files, delete incorrect entries and even deny access to directories.
Your best answer to preventing corrupted SD cards is to back up your SD card. I have a working copy and a protected unused copy (two seperate SD cards). I rotate my working copy and when I make changes will back up the card to it and protected unused card which sits in a special shelf.
I first noticed a corrupted directory because my PDA shut down accidently while running iGO8 off my original card. While the program ran again when I reapplied power to the PDA, I noticed that I could not access some maps and stored routes. Several directories had become corrupted and unreadable.
NavNGO will tell you to back up your card to your computer immediately if you only buy iGO8 on an SD card. If you buy the DVD with more maps on it, it will have a back up directory of iGO8 on it BUT:
iGO8.exe is a protected file that only works with the original SD card!!!
In the event that your original SD card becomes corrupted, iGO8 can be reinstalled to either from an update or a NavNGO DVD.
That is why you NEED to do a back up!
Fortunately this problem is minimized by the test drive version that was linked in a previous post in this thread!
Minimizing the number of files on this SD card so that iGO8 will compile quickly
Before I explain this part of the game plan, I have inserted a picture of a typical iGO8 directory. This came from my backup directory which is a mirror of what is on my SD card. Here are the files typically found in the SD card's iGO8 directory:
.3dl files go in the building directory
.dem files go in the dem directory
lang.*.zip files go in the lang file**
.fbl files go in the map directory
.POI files go in the poi directory
.zip voice files go in the voice directory**
**Do not unzip files in these two directories (very important not to unzip them)!!!
***The skin directory needs to be created and skins added to it.
****If a save directory is present before you run the program for the first time, you need to delete it.
When you get iGO8 on an SD card or by DVD, a minimal regional area like the United States will be about 1.7 Gb in size. The whole world map DVD comes in at just under 3.5 Gb. The reason I mention these facts are depending upon what maps you want to put on your SD card for iGO8 to use, it is much better to minimize the number of files it will compile in its initial installation.
Many users get a failed installation because they have too many or large files in the \building, \dem, \map or \poi. NavNGO automatically includes all the pertinent files in those directories that iGO8 *might* need. I emphasize MIGHT. If you have a speedcam file present in that directory, I can almost guarantee you your installation will fail. Why?
REASON FOR MINIMIZED FILES ON AN SD CARD
Well, when iGO8 is run for the first time - it compiles or associates all those files while it is building its INI file as well searching for a GPS. Unlike the little engine that could, iGO8 will overload your system memory because there are too many large files for it to compile. The best solution for an initial installation is to have just the files you need for the immediate area you live in. What does this mean?
Let's use France as an example. For it, while it would be nice to have the entire European continent loaded, on the SD card you just need France's map, language file (do not unZIP its zipped file - iGO8 works with ZIP files in the appropriate directory), POI file and voice file.
For a successful first-time installation, you want iGO8 to have an easy time finding and compiling everything. If it can't find the GPS, that will be the start of a bad day. Speedcam files typically will cause an Out of Memory error message. Too many map files can cause a database error message especially if you have the wrong license file.
In my case with just my state, which is a large one, loaded - my iGO8 directory fills about 0.7 GB with TTS files present. In essence, when I do a first time installation I literally have removed 1 GB of United States files to the backup directory on my PC.
It will take iGO8 about one minute to compile a minimal directory of files - during that time I recommend you be patient and do not touch your smartphone even though you will be tempted. After about 75 seconds, you can navigate to the Settings menu to go the Regional panel and set your preferences. From that panel, you can navigate to each Settings sub panel and set your preferences to your heart's content.
SOME DIFFERENCES YOU WILL NOTE IN MY PICTURE
1. When I backup my SD card, I do it to a temp iGO8 directory and then to the master iGO8PC directory you see in the picture. I find it easier and faster to manipulate the files on my PC versus comparing them off the SD card.
2. If you see a \Save directory on when you do an initial installation, one of two things is wrong. Either you are working with your backup files and included the old \Save directory OR you are working with a test drive version and it had a \Save directory present which you unRAR'ed to your SD card. On an initial installation, you do not want to have a \Save directory present. If you do, iGO8 will look to that directory and use the INI file present to set up iGO8. In many cases this will cause errors and possibly a failed installation. When you are looking at your SD card on your PC, if you see a \Save directory and you're doing an initial installation, DELETE IT!
3. Skins. On my picture, you will see a \Skin directory. There are a number (about eight that I know of) of skins available to give your iG08's display extra features. I have several loaded in that directory but only use the Gurjon 6p skin. Even that skin is somewhat outdated, but it's the one that works for me and does everything I need and like. I will cover skins in another post at a future date.
4. While we are not quite ready for the installation, I will jump ahead and say that after you have a good generic SYS.txt file to boot your iGO8 installation, and have a good installation - then and only then you can add back files that will give iGO8 added map coverage. Using the France example, you might want to add in contries like Spain, Italy, Germany, Belgium or other countries as appropriate. In that case it is just a matter of transferring files to your SD card from the backup directory.
5. I cannot begin to stress the importance of having a backup directory on your PC. Unless you get the deluxe iGO8 package of a DVD card and SD card, you will eventually see why having iGO8's files backed up is important. Better to do it now versus later.
Having the correct sys.txt file
One of the more common errors made on new installations of iGO8 is having an incorrect sys.txt file that has improper or incorrect data statements within it. Usually this error arises because the user either copies one from an iGO8 forum or uses a sys.txt file that might be part of test drive version.
Generally speaking, a generic sys.txt file is better than a specific one that the user does not know much about. As a former iGO8 Mod, I have looked closely at many sys.txt files and know what goes into my sys.txt file. In essence, the sys.txt file I use is very generic. You will not find statements in mine that make direct calls to the GPS, display type, time zone or other direct system components. Usually when a statement like:
name="igo8_pda"
or
vga=1
or
sync_os_timezone=1
or
gps="nmea"
On SD card or DVD provided by NavNGO, you will get a very short sys.txt file with little explanation of what should be put in it. Different statements can put into your sys.txt file to cause the map display or other parts of iGO8 to do something more than original sys.txt files calls for.
My sys.txt files works with my PDA, PNA, Jade Clone, another smartphone and even a double din (2Din). You can't get more generic than having one sys.txt file that works with five different systems. Here is what my sys.txt files looks like:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[debug]
enable_roadshadow=1
show_residentonly=1
enable_roadsign=1
enable_landmark_occlusion=1
show_oneway_3d=1
show_oneway=1
show_gps_pos=1
show_signpost=1
background_navigation=1
screen_calibration=1
skip_eula=1
supress_trivial_left=0
supress_trivial_right=0
;max_memory=25000000
cache=2048
reserve_memory=1500000
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
shutdown_time=0
defaulttilt3d=7700
[map]
2dheadup=1
3d_max_tiltlevel=7700
3d_max_zoomlevel=3000
;3d_min_zoomlevel=40
3d_min_zoomlevel=80
3d_max_zfar=3000
stop_rotate_on_map_move=1
inertia_on_map_move=1
follow_gps=1
2dheadup=1
[poi]
poi_show_all_btn=1
poi_labels=1
show_poi_boundingrects=1
show_poi_areas=1
[navigation]
show_current_city=1
show_countrychange=1
autoreplan_action="AUTO"
gps_pos_to_road=1
[smartzoom]
minangle=0
maxangle=80
[msnd]
enabled=0
[map]
3d_scale_carmodel=1
3dcarsizemin=2500
3dcarsizemax=2500
3dcarsizemul=2800
[tts]
tts_buffer=131072
announce_exit_directions=1
tts_logics=3
priority="HIGH"
always_say_road_names=1
announce_street_name=1
skip_exit_numbers=0
[sound]
ding=0
queue_length=200
[3d_config]
;roadsign_lines_per_screen=12
disable_roadsign_navigation_mode=1
show_gps_pos=1
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
Sometimes in other iGO8 forums, you would have to copy those lines and insert them in a text file. A sys.txt file must be text file. Saving as a Doc file will not work.
But, to save you some time attached to this message you will find a copy of my sys.txt file.
Be patient as we still have one more part of the game plan to go before you attempt your installation. Additionally, I'd like to include one or two posts that should be helpful with a first time installation.
If you are willing to be patient and follow the game plan, you should get a good iGO8 installation.
6. Choosing a skin
Choosing a skin is a pretty difficult subject to discuss. What is an iGO8 skin you ask? Well, like other EXE files that are skinnable which means a graphic overlay can be used to change the normal appearance, iGO8 skins expand upon the basic interface to present not only the map appearance but also the way information is presented by the GPS.
To give you an example, when black and white televisions first came out most people thought what will they think of next. When color TV came out, some probably thought that was the end all experience. Next came big screen TVs followed by HDTV, gas plasma screens and next year 3D TV.
An iGO8 skin takes the color experience and brings it up an extra level almost comparable to HDTV - it is that radical in thought to see how the basic interface is modified to give more useful information. NavNGO built skin capability into its product years ago and iGO8 users have developed skins to enhance other users' experiences.
Choosing one skin is like putting you in a candy shop and telling you to tell everyone else what the best candy is - you can't do it! You would almost have to lock yourself into the shop, try all the candies and then decide for yourself which is best.
So it is with skins.
PRIMARY SKIN SITES
When I want information on what is going with skins, I go to two different sites to see what is on the cutting edge:
http://artwork-igo8.blogspot.com/
http://www.i-go8.com/
Both these sites usually do reviews of skins as new versions arise.
PRIMARY FOUR SKINS
As for skins themselves, I know of four major skins:
diMKA homepage: www.igo8mods.com
Gurjon homepage: www.gurjon.com/
Riks homepage: http://www.skin.riks.us/phpbb3/viewforum.php?f=3
Ultra skin: http://linknetonline.co.uk/igo8/index.html
There is a fifth skin called kikker but it's only available usually as a Rapid$hare link. I don't follow or use that skin. You would have to google it to find links to it which won't be included here because they change.
CHOOSING A SKIN
As with choosing a smartphone, you have to do your research on which skin is best for you. Each of us will have a different opinion. I have indicated which skin I prefer but will not mention it in this post as I would like all of you to visit the four primary skin homepages to make your own choice.
Skins really enhance the iGO8 interface which IMHO is the best anyway. Once you decide on a skin, you need to stay on that skin's homepage to keep up with changes and to ask questions as needed.
Skins take the 3D iGO8 screen to new heights. You are the one who chooses which skin will be your elevator to the heights.
Good luck in your choice!
Hello i wanted to ask, does a Jade clone work good with GPS? i mean does it find u like a normal GPS reciever? Finding "every" step u make cuz mine i move 100 meter it finds you, 100 meters and finds again and again, i still didnt have a lot of time to be outside for about 40min with ith on (got it a couple of weeks ago)
Thank you in regards
marspl said:
Hello i wanted to ask, does a Jade clone work good with GPS? i mean does it find u like a normal GPS reciever? Finding "every" step u make cuz mine i move 100 meter it finds you, 100 meters and finds again and again, i still didnt have a lot of time to be outside for about 40min with ith on (got it a couple of weeks ago)
Thank you in regards
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If you follow the game plan to have WM manage the GPS and install GPSToggle you shouldn't have a problem with your GPS.
Part 1. That being said, your question has a two part answer to it. The first is that every GPS has an inherent lag to it. 100 meters is a too short a distance to gage this lag by.
Part 2. If you are trying to gage this lag with a GPS program, unless you are a geocaching program that shows a larger scale map and your GPS displacement (foot traffic) as what might be seen as someone directly overhead you at the same speed - a GPS program like iGO8 will not show the lag accurately or even your displacement because it uses a smaller scaled map. GPS programs like iGO8 are built to show your displacement at higher speeds than normal foot traffic.
If you don't use an app like GPSToggle to turn on your GPS, you will have problems.
GPS Tweak to improve iGO8 performance
While reading this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 and thanks to beast0898 and monx®, I found some Registry tweaks that really improve the performance of iGO8. You will need a program like PHM Registry to add the following keys in your Registry:
ALL VALUES DECIMAL
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers]
"InputBufferSize"=dword:00000200
"OutputBufferSize"=dword:00000200
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
"MaxBufferSize"=dword:00000200
Before adding these keys, you should backup your Clone because Registry tweaks if done incorrectly can affect its overall performance.
I noticed that when I added these three keys that GPSToggle now locks usually within 15 seconds of the app turning on the Clone GPS. Previously, it took usually longer than 30 and as long 45 seconds.
I always stay on my Today homescreen to see GPSToggle's satellites bar connect with four indicators meaning the Clone is capable of 3D satellite navigation (satnav).
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New Navteq 2Q 2009 maps released
I read somewhere that NavNGO is "trying to get it right" with future releases especially their software releases. They were releasing new versions every few weeks which in some cases corrected one error but introduced another. The Driver Alerts feature probably tipped the cart because now they either had a buggy version or just one map that worked with those versions.
Hopefully, NavNGO learned something from those versions and is most likely the reason we are now just seeing NavTeq Q2 maps. I would be willing to bet NT released the Q2 maps on their normal schedule but NavNGO held them back. In a vendor's case like NavNGO, it has to encode the maps to work with its product. If they "got it right" and are now just releasing those maps, hopefully we will see a new version soon that will enhance the Driver Alert feature. There are even rumors of an iGO9 floating around. . .
You may have noticed that last week several articles entitled GPS Cell Phone Apps Challenge Standalone Devices (see http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/travel/main5826719.shtml - I read it first on Yahoo News, followed it to CBS News, CNET and then the AP author who wrote it). The gist of that article is that standalone apps like iGO8 and TomTom are challenging PNAs and PNDs which is forcing PNA manufacturers to become creative. REASON: Most everyone has a cellphone and more than likely will have a smartphone be it an iPhone, Android, or WM device. In essence by either using Google Maps (if you have a reliable GPRS signal and unlimited data plan) or or an app like iGO8, a smartphone now combines a cell phone, camera, GPS and PDA.
In some Forums I am part of (and one that I am sworn to double-secret probation), smartphone apps along with in-dash automobile satnav programs are where the market is pointing. If NavNGO is smart, it's probably working on iGO9 that will targeted towards those platforms. NavNGO has always been big on bundling, my bet is that they are working on bundles that will put their product on the leading-edge products.
As with any release, I usually wait a while until I get feedback on how good or bad the release is. You might want to do the same with these NT 2009 Q2 maps.
iGO 2009 Coming soon to Windows Mobile phones
Last week on another Forum I part of, one of the more experienced members released info on NavNGO's new iGO 2009. Don't know yet if the satnav program will be called iGO9 but that is what it has called in private posts I have been following. Here is the link to the undeveloped page:
http://www.igomyway.com/en/#
Supposedly NavNGO is working on improving much of the features we have seen in iGO8 like the Driver Alerts. While some users are worried that NavNGO will leave behind the PNA market, I find that hard to believe.
The primary reason for that is because the PNA version is easily adapted to other platforms like PDAs, 2Dins and smartphones. And knowing some characters on other boards, I am sure they will find a way to make it compatible with their old devices. Hopefully it will be more user-friendly towards finger-friendly smartphones and possess TTS. Some companies mistakenly think of smartphones as being PDAs and iGO8 did not have TTS available for its PDA version.
Most users like me have more than one platform or device. I presently have a PDA and smartphone. Plus I provide "expert advice" to my Brother and a friend who have a different smartphone and PNA respectively. Still, NavNGO has promised to release maps for those platforms up till 2010. Personally I don't travel in too many newly built up areas. So, my future 2010 maps will mostly likely serve me for at least two to three years beyond.
iGO9 probably will not be out much before February 2010 but I could be wrong (I hope; I hope)!
I tried to use version Nav.N.Go.iGO.8.v8.3.2.64029 (from your link).Followed all "game" steps,switch on the GPS, install IGO,but every time when try to start the program - the same one error massage :initialization error:no voice files were found.
In fact ,i download voice files(folder was empty) and past them i different variants-zipped,unzipped,in sub folder,directly in "voice" folder-but the result is the same one-can not start IGO.
Also,when change original sys.txt with your - IGO not start.Have a message :
Filed to open file:igo\240_320\loading.bmp exiting application.
So,can you help me where is my mistake?
kris555 said:
I tried to use version Nav.N.Go.iGO.8.v8.3.2.64029 (from your link).Followed all "game" steps,switch on the GPS, install IGO,but every time when try to start the program - the same one error massage :initialization error:no voice files were found.
In fact ,i download voice files(folder was empty) and past them i different variants-zipped,unzipped,in sub folder,directly in "voice" folder-but the result is the same one-can not start IGO.
Also,when change original sys.txt with your - IGO not start.Have a message :
Filed to open file:igo\240_320\loading.bmp exiting application.
So,can you help me where is my mistake?
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Without being right next to see your screen and everything you have done, it is next to impossible for me to accurately tell you what you may have done wrong. BUT, I think based upon the two error statements you listed, I have an idea of what went wrong.
Please remember: I strongly advocate having a licensed version of the product because everything is spelled or laid out correctly for you on the proprietary SD card. The \iGO8 directory and its subdirectories are correctly built that the user has to do almost nothing other than periodic updates or maintenance.
That being said, if you went to the link and downloaded a "trial" or "test drive" version" as per that link, I do not know everything that is in that download. You have to go back to my post #9 and make sure you look at the imagevenue picture link to make sure that you have the right files in the right directories. The best way to install iGO8 is from its vanilla version (contained on the proprietary SD card) and then modify the sys.txt file as per my recommendation.
See this post again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5039782&postcount=9
and make sure you click on the imagevenue picture link to get the file placement correctly. Improper directory structure, improper file placement and improper files such as a \Save directory, speedcam or installation with a \Skin being called from an INI file will almost always cause failed installations.
Your first error message tells me that you don't have zipped voice files in the proper directory as listed. If the file structure is not correct, iGO8 will never find the files which also can be problem. The root file directory on an SD card should be \iGO8 - if you have something else that might be the problem. Again, hard to know without being over your shoulder.
Your second error statement, about a loading BMP file usually occurs because the wrong resolution is selected. This error alone tells me that there is either something wrong in the d/l files OR you did not use my sys.txt file as per its post.
My sys.txt file is a very generic or "vanilla" file. With the exemption of the highres statement, there are no resolution statements in my sys.txt file which tells me either you didn't use it or there is something wrong in the d/l files. The most likely culprit that I have seen as a Mod in another Forum is that you most likely initialized your test drive version with a \Save directory present.
If a \Save directory is present, iGO8 will not look at the sys.txt file. It will by nature default to the \Save directory because it believes it has already been installed and uses the .INI files in that directory.
Again, without standing over your shoulder, I can't with 100 percent accuracy tell you what you did wrong but I gave you two great indications. Test drive versions are okay but a proprietary copy on an SD card beats that like a straight flush beats four of a kind.
The instructions given here are primarily for a legimate user to set up their copy on the SD card sent by NavNGO. If you're going to use a testdrive version and encounter problems, you will need to ask questions in a testdrive Forum like the one you followed to get the links.
Again, in buying my Jade Clone, I knew that without some prior knowledge I might never get the GPS to work much less iGO8. In being on three other Forums and the former Mod of one, I have a better than average understanding of what it takes to set-up iGO8. The primary reason I went on other Forums was because the information on the NavNGO Forum was at the kindergarten level. Based upon all the Forums I follow, I have a Masters equivalence in Forum knowledge.
If you're going to go with a test drive version, this guide is a basic one that won't give you much more than a grade school education. You need to go to school at one of the other test drive Forums to achieve what you want to do OR else be willing to do trial-and-error which can really drive some people nuts.
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Hi,
I have as you, a Jade clone with MARVELL cpu. under WM 6.1 see also:
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I tried unsuccessfully to use GPSToggle with IGO, but it never work.
GPSToggle goes to lock 5 state, but no program has worked (Tomtom, Igo, beelineGPS...) but i followed exactly the tutorial.
So. I found one solution by pure chance. The only things that I made are:
A registry edit: \HKLM\System\State\Hardware\GPSState : put 1, and i saw the blue light blinking, and put 0 to turn off GPS chip.
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So I set the windows parameter as this:
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And it's working perfectly.
I set Igo as WM:
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When I start Igo8, the GPS chip turn on, automatically, when I quit Igo8, the GPS chip turn off. The fix is maded fast (less than 1 min).
(for the screenshot I was inside, in a building)
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Enjoy.
PS: I can't put image from imagehack, if an administrator can unlock my account, i't would be nice. Thanks in advance.